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PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
5:00 p.m.
August 18, 1986
City Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Wright called the Meeting to order at 5:03 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present - Chairman Wright, Commissioners Dahlquist,
Lawson, Morrison and Popovich.
Absent - Commissioners Donovan and Regan.
Staff Present:
Doug Duncanson, Parks Superintendent
Keith Beverly, Administrative Assistant
Lynn Chase, Recreation Superintendent
A. Introduction of Newly Appointed Commissioner
Doug Duncanson introduced Anthony Lawson, the new Parks
and Recreation Commissioner.
B. Appreciation to John Conti
Chairman Wright announced a letter was mailed to former
Commissioner Conti expressing the appreciation of the City
for his service and a certificate would be presented to
him signed by the Mayor.
PUBLIC OPEN FORUM:
There was no one present wishing to address the Commission
during the open forum.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the meeting held 3uly 21, 1986, were
approved as presented.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA;
The Agenda was approved as printed.
Chairman Wright announced Item No. 7C would be an
Information item only and not an action item.
APPOINT SCRIBE;
Commissioner Morrison was appointed Scribe for this
Meeting.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
A. Scribe Report
Chairman Wright called attention to the Scribe report in
the packet.
Wright
Dahlquist
Lawson
Morrison
Popovich
Wright
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Morrison
Popovich
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS: (continued)
B. Coif Course Feasibility Study
Chairman Wright introduced the item and Keith Beverly gave
the staff report.
Mr. Beverly stated the committee meeting was cancelled due
to a phone call from ERA stating the meeting of the
subcommittee would be better held when they had a base
map. The material was not available at the present time.
There are some environmental restraints in the study and
it was felt the subcommittee would meet within the next
week and a half.
In answer to query from Commissioner Lawson as to the
additional information on the base map, Keith Beverly
stated the base map from Rick Engineering had been pieced
together and it did not delineate the boundaries
adequately.
The project team felt the environmentally sensitive lagoon
area needed to be addressed.
C. Park-In-Lleu Fees
Chairman Wright referred to the report contained in the
packet. Keith Beverly referred to the market study by Mr.
Fuller. There was a discussion at the last meeting about
the availability of data for District No. 2. There is a
shortage of data base to draw from. One of the
Commissioners suggested there was additional data
available. However that has not become available at this
time. Mr. Beverly stated staff felt the data should be
available before the study is completed.
Mr. Beverly continued stating there are certain parameters
set by staff for use in providing acreage for recreation.
This would be undeveloped land, relatively flat, or slopes
of less than 10%, and in size of 1/2 acre up to 50 acres.
D. Stagecoach Park Slop Stabilization
Doug Duncanson stated this was an information item, and
staff is writing a change order for the slope
stabilization problem. The consultant and staff met with
the soils engineer and looked over the possible solutions
to the problem, as well as costs. An agenda bill is being
written at the present time for a change order to
stabilize the slope. The agenda bill will go before
Council on August 26, 1986.
E. Sammis Properties Parks Agreement
Chairman Wright stated there would be a Site Committee
report also on this item. He stated an agreement had been
entered into with Sammis Properties, they would dedicate
upfront ten acres of land. They owe 3.95 acres. Mr.
Beverly continued the report, using wall maps to show the
10 acres and the proposed sites. The credit that would be
created In the southeast quadrant by this donation of 10
acres would be drawn on by future developers and then paid
back to Sammis at that time.
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS: (continued)
Mr. Beverly stated one site would be the HPI development.
They have promised a 30-acre park site to the City, and he
indicated this site on the map. In addition, this ten
acres would then make a 4-0-acre park.
Another site recommended would be in the lower corner of
that quadrant. There Is a rectangular piece of property
tied Into the future school site.
Another recommendation would be a triangular piece of
property next to the school site. Mr. Beverly stated the
ten-acre parcel was fairly flat, and the 17-acre parcel
has an SDC&E easement and gentle slopes. The grade
restrictions need to be checked on these parcels.
Staff has suggested the possibility of tying the ten acres
in with the existing Alta Mira site. There Is a 12-acre
parcel at that site, with 50% in sloping terrain. By
adding ten acres to that, there would be a 22-acre site of
perhaps 15 acres flat land.
Commissioner Morrison inquired when the decision would be
made, and Mr. Duncanson stated the decision would be made
prior to the occupancy of the first unit of the
development. This would be within the next two months.
Chairman Wriqht stated the Commission would look at the
sites at that time.
Commissioner Popovich stated he was only Member of the
Commission that made the tour. He stated all three pieces
of property were excellent and beautiful property.
Chairman Wright inquired about the access to the Alta Mira
site, and Commission Popovich said that had been
investigated and at the other end of the parcel the slope
is gradual. They could arrange for access at that point.
Chairman Wright urged the Commissioners to look at the
sites as soon as possible.
Commission Dahlquist stated she would like some type of a
mini-tour set up, to see the sites instead of looking at
wall maps. She suggested having this tour prior to the
September Meeting, possibly at ^:15 p.m., and moving the
Meeting to 6:30 p.m.
The Parks and Recreation Commission voted to have a tour
of park lands prior to the September Meeting. The tour
will start at ^:15 p.m., and the meeting will be held at
6:30 p.m. The Commissioner are to be sent a separate
notification of the tour. The places to be viewed would
Include the Sammis recommendations, Fuerte, Alga Norte,
Stagecoach, and the Amphtheater in Hosp Grove.
In answer to Commissioner query, Keith Be^rly explained
the projected population for each quadrant has been given
to staff. With the contribution of the ten acre parcel by
Sammis, the current need for park land in the southeast
quadrant would be exceeded at this time. However, at
buildout, there would still be a need for park property to
serve the additional population.
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS; (continued)
Keith Beverly stated Macarlo Canyon will serve the entire
City. To coordinate with the Growth Management Program,
staff suggested that the quadrants be broken down at the
division point of Palomar Airport Road. When the new maps
are completed, there will be a clearer picture of the
different guadrants.
Commission Lawson stated he did not want the people In
Alta Mira and Spinnaker Hills to be locked into a park
they have no access to, and would have to go to El Camino
Real or La Costa Avenue until Poinsettia Lane or Alga Road
go through. He felt that should be considered with the
timings of the park.
NEW BUSINESS:
A. Time Lock Gate (Beach Access Christiansen Way)
Chairman Wright summarized the history of this beach
access, stating the Parks and Recreation Commission turned
down the reguest for a time lock gate. In Oune of 1985,
the City Council took action on this Item and discussed a
time lock gate being placed on that access as a means of
trying to balance the problem of noise in the evening and
keeping public access to the beach. Council voted
unanimously to allow a time lock gate to be put in at the
owner's expense. The property owners were given a year
from October Zk, 1985, to Install the time lock gate. At
this time, no time lock gate has been installed.
Keith Beverly stated the owners were to Install a time
lock, mechanism with a year review. He referred to letters
from citizens complaining about'the situation.
Doug Duncanson stated staff has investigated the matter,
and the time lock was not Installed as of last week. The
gate was locked on one occasion. Apparently people had
permission from the Fire Department to lock the gate at
that time.
Joseph Vigil, 2805 Ocean Street, addressed the Commission,
stating he was present to answer questions regarding the
beach access and to try to clarify some definitions put
. down by the Coastal Commission as to what they meant by
permit. He stated the usual permit Is for two years.
This one was a different permit and was only for one year.
He stated if you have two years, you have two years to
commence the work. Mr. Vigil stated there have been
numerous delays and he stated no permit had been issued as
of January. He stated at this time the time lock could be
Installed by October, but there have been delays because
of the difficulty in getting the time lock mechanism. He
stated this must be a constant contact mechanism, so that
at the proper time It will lock the gate. He stated he
did not know whether or not this created a safe situation.
The gate must have a stopping point to make it work. Mr.
Vigil also stated the cost would be approximately $4,000,
rather than the $2,000 estimated by the City. He stated
he was not complaining about the cost. He referred to the
report from the Coastal Commission and stated he was
willing to accept this. He stated the time lock will be
Installed as soon as possible.
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NEW BUSINESS: (continued)
Mr. Beverly stated the question was whether the
Installation of the time lock was proceeding in a diligent
manner. The Parks and Recreation Department has received
complaints that there was a chain and lock on the gate.
This would be a violation of the permit and the City would
be held accountable for that.
Chairman Wright stated there should be a motion to state
the Commission's position. This could be: No kind of
gates or locks on public access ways, or a motion to
direct staff to see that this agreement is fulfilled in a
timely manner. Until such time, it should be monitored
closely to make certain the gate is open and the access is
available.
Commission Dahlguist stated she felt no beach accesses
should be blocked off or barricade at any time. The
people who build there dedicate that land before they are
able to build. She felt it made no difference whether or
not it was a tunnel effect. Also, the people must back
down the stairs to get this date open. That is an
imposition and dangerous, and she felt the people should
not have to do that. She stated her preference for
removing the gates.
Commissioner Morrison stated the Commission was working
under a permit situation, and must follow what the Coastal
Commission has laid out. She stated it would be better to
have the gate open in the opposite direction, before the
time lock was Installed. This would be better than having
the citizens back down the steps.
Parks and Recreation Commission recommended the gate at
Christiansen Way access be open and left open until such
time as the time lock mechanism is installed. Staff is to
monitor this situation closely to see the work is
proceeding in a timely manner. The one-year monitoring
time is to start after the installation of the time lock.
Commissioner Dahlqulst voted against the motion because
she felt no public beach access should be gated at any
time.
Commission Dahlquist stated the directions to staff should
be to monitor this access carefully to make certain it is
open at all times, and that the time lock installation is
being pursued in a timely manner. Also, the gate should
be reversed as a matter of safety.
Commissioner Dahlaulst stated she would like to add that
to the tour in September.
Commissioner Dahlquist stated she has been trying for two
years to get signs at the beach access ways. Doug
Duncanson stated the only signs that were at that spot
were not the wood signs. He stated the wood signs have
been fabricated, but due to the lack of staff and an
overload of work, they had not been installed as yet.
Commissioner Dahlquist made a iwtion to recommend to
Council the public beach access ways be posted and all
Carlsbad City park sites be posted. Commissioner Popovich
seconded the motion.
Wright
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Lawson
Morrison
Popovich
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NEW BUSINESS: (continued)
Commissioner Lawson questioned the appropriateness of this
motion and stated staff could be requested to Implement
this directive rather than taking the matter to Council.
He did not see the need to send something to Council that
is already in motion.
Chairman Wright stated the purpose of the motion would be
to have Council made aware this is a priority that the
Parks and Recreation Commission has been requesting and it
has not been accomplished due to the lack of manpower.
The public should be made aware of the sites and the
access ways.
Commissioner Dahlquist commented on the Adams Street
access, stating an iron gate has been put across the road
and it is double gated. She stated there was no possible
way to get down there.
Lynn Chase, Recreation Superintendent, stated there were
three signs about this being a walk-in access and the gate
was installed and padlocked. There Is a key available for
that padlock, if anyone needed to open that gate. One
entire gate and sign was stolen. Another one has now been
fabricated. People were driving across private property
and vandalizing the boats. Numerous requests were made by
Snug Harbor for the protection of their property and the
City's. She stated there Is a walk-in access only at that
point, and no one is to drive In. Mrs. Chase added the
metal signs have been stolen and they now have acquired
spare signs to replace signs as they are stolen.
Parks and Recreation Commission voted to recommend to
Council that all beach access ways and park land in the
City be so designated by the installation of signs.
B. Get Ski Tournament
Lynn Chase gave the staff report, stating the request
could be denied or approved, and recommended to Council
for approval. The two dates suggested are September 27-
28, or October 18-19. Mrs. Chase stated six weeks is
needed for lead time for publicity. The City would
require $500,000 to S1 million Insurance, which is beinq
worked on at the present time. Snug Harbor and the City
would be Included as insured.
The Lagoon would remain open to the public during this
two-day period, and the tournament would be from 9:00 a.m.
to 5:00 p.m. This would be a two day affair, bringing
revenue to the motels and the marina.
In answer to a question regarding parking, Mrs. Chase
stated there would be private parking on the Snug Harbor
property. Some people will not pay the parking fee, and
will park on the street.
Parks and Recreation Commission accepted the request to
allow the Oet Ski Races at Snug Harbor.
Wright
Dahlquist
Lawson
Morrison
Popovich
Wright
Dahlquist
Lawson
Morrison
Popovich
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NEW BUSINESS: (continued)
C. California Coastal Clean-Up Week
Chairman Wright stated this was an information item.
Doug Ouncanson stated the Parks and Recreation Department
was coordinating this and asking for volunteers. The
volunteers are to meet at Tamarack parking lot and should
contact Ken Price.
Lynn Chase stated letters are going out to all service
organizations, youth groups, Boys and Girls Clubs. Each
Member of Council and the Commissions will be sent a
letter.
D. Hacario Canyon Sports Complex Initiative
Chairman Wright read the summary of this information
item.
Keith Beverly continued the report, stating the initiative
had qualified for the November Ballot. This is for a
sports complex In Macario Canyon, with construction during
the 1987-88 years. This would include five lighted
baseball fields, four soccer/football fields, a community
center containing a gym, and other recreational amenities.
The author of the initiative suggested the development,
with a cost of $3,500,000. Staff estimated this
development would reguire approximately 25 acres, staff
analyzed the situation, and stated the first thing to be
considered was the fact there is no access at this time.
Staff believes this development (at a cost of $110,000 per
acre, for 25 acres) would cost $2,750,000. That figure
does not include constuction or the community center,
which staff figures would cost $1,500,000. The author
suggested $3,500,000, but staff feels $^,250,000 would be
a more accurate figure.
Staff addressed the issue of access to the site. Rick
Engineering performed some cost breakdowns to provide
access to the site, and they identified three
alternatives. He indicated the three alternative routes:
Alternative one off of Cannon Road, with a figure of
$1,WO,000 cost. Alternative two off of Faraday Road,
with a cost of $2,550,000. Alternative three off of
Hidden Valley Road, with a cost of $2,900,000. The
highest cost of $7,150,000 was for access number three.
Alternative Number one would be $5,650,000 and alternative
two would $6,800,000.
The initiative does not address the environmental
restraints that may confront the development of this park,
and with those restraints it could be a lengthy process.
Another area of analysis would be the phasing. This would
be a 15-year development plan, and the initiative made
assumptions of a starting date. The access problem would
be the major consideration as well as development of the
canyon.
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NEW BUSINESS: (continued)
There are no utilities stubbed out in the area at the
present time.
Mr. Beverly stated the recent inventory by Parks and
Recreation showed the City exceeded park lands by 25
acres. The inventory of bailfields showed an excess of
one ballfield at the present time. With the completion of
Staqecoach Park, Calavera and the Safety Center, the City
will exceed the number of bailfields by 23.
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Commissioner Popovic stated he would regret to see
Macario Canyon Park /on a piece-meal basis on the needs of
one segment of the City's population. There is a study
on-going for the feasibility of a golf course in Macario
Canyon Park, and once that is completed Commissioner
Popovlch stated he would like to see the present Master
Plan updated to include developing the park in the manner
approved.
Commission Morrison stated the initiative sounds nice, but
to have these fields and parks by putting a time limit on
this without the correct feasibility as far as access and
costs would affect the other park, projects In the City in
a detrimental manner.
She added it takes time to get private industry to work
with the City, and since that was the original intent for
this park, that would take the entire 15-year period for
development.
Chairman Wright stated he would hate to see the City notch
out a section of Macario Canyon Park and do this park
piece-meal. This would take away from the entire park
concept. There is no development coining into that area,
and he would hate to see that park put ahead of parks
being completed in areas of the City where there is
development and there are citizens 'living now.
Commission Dahlauist left the meeting at 6:26 p.m., during
the discussion on Macario Canyon. Chairman Wright stated
she asked him to state her opinion that the access to
Macario Canyon would have to be built sooner or later, and
she felt it should be built sooner.
Commissioner Lawson stated he felt if the City were forced
into providing access and developing this park prior to
the introduction of private enterprise into the park,
provisions should be made to cover those costs in the
future from the developers who do go in there. He felt
that should be addressed by those who support the
initiative.
Chairman Wright stated there are two ways standards are
set as far as bailfields, and that may or may not be
consistent with the lifestyle of the people. It has been
suggested that schedules be alternated, because part of
the year no one uses the ballfields.
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NEW BUSINESS: (continued)
Chairman Wright continued, stating in the original Iwanaga
and Associates report, artificial dates were mentioned.
There were no dates included when the Macario Canyon Park
Master Plan was adopted. The City is not remiss by not
having worked on this park for four years. This has a low
priority, with the parks in the areas where people are
living at higher priorities.
Chairman Wright stated he felt a plan should be developed
for the entire Macario Canyon Park area. He stated he
would hate to see the park developed in the piece-meal
manner. He stated he could not support the initiative.
Chairman Wright gave five reasons for not supporting the
Initiative as follows:
1. The entire space is landlocked. Proposed Cannon Road
and/or a connection to proposed College Road would
provide site access.
2. Cannon Road could provide a future important access to
the park site. The first phase of development will
probably reguire access from College Road.
3. Utility servicing will be expensive for virtually any
alternative recreation program. There are none
"stubbed out" for Macario Canyon at this time.
4. Roughly 98 acres are effectively available for
recreational facilities development If all slopes and
hillsides of 20%+ grades are withdrawn from
consideration.
5. Selection of public/private facilities development In
the canyon will be made not to duplicate, but to
maximize facilities and recreational experience not
now provided or planned elsewhere in Carlsbad.
Chairman Wright stated the Commission had an option at
this point to make their feelings known whether the
Commission was in favor or against the initiative as
suggested. He stated Council would draft an opinion on
this initiative tommorrow at Council Meeting, and he would
like to have the Commission, through a motion, give their
feelings as a formal statement.
The Pafks and Recreation Commission has concerns about
Macario Canyon Sports Complex Initiative for the following
reasons:
1. The entire space Is landlocked. Proposed Cannon Road
and/or a connection to proposed College Road would
provide site access.
2. Cannon Road could provide a future important access to
the park site. The first phase of development will
probably reguire access from College Road.
3. Utility servicing will be expensive for virtually any
alternative recreation program. There are none
"stubbed out" for Macario Canyon at this time.
*. Roughly 98 acres are effectively available for
recreational facilities development If all slopes and
hillsides of 2056+ grades are withdrawn from
consideration.
5. Selection of public/private facilities development in
the canyon will be made not to duplicate, but to
maximize facilities and recreational experience not
now provided or planned elsewhere In Carlsbad.
Wright
Lawson
Morrison
Popovich
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NEW BUSINESS: (continued)
E. San Diego Pops
Chairman Wright referred to the flyer contained in the
packet.
Doug Duncanson invited all the Commissioners to take
advantage of this concert, August 31, 1986. There is no
admission charge.
F. Alga Norte Park
Chairman Wright read the summary as contained in the
packet.
Doug Duncanson continued the report, stating Daon
Corporation is re-evaluating all of its unimproved
property in the southeast quadrant. This involves the
Alga Norte Park site.
The current site is south of Carrillo Way, but it has been
suggested the park be located slightly to the west. Wall
charts were used to illustrate the areas.
This is just a preliminary suggestion at this time. It
will be studied further and a report will be brought back
at a later date.
COUNCIL REPORT;
There was no council report at this time.
SCRIBE REPORT;
Commissioner Morrison gave the scribe report.
OTHER BUSINESS:
Lynn Chase stated the Tennis and Soccer Sub-committee will
look at some indoor soccer sites. There is no definite
date set at this time, but the Committee will ask Mr.
Courtney to have a slide presentation of other sites.
Chairman Wright stated the agenda for the next meeting
should contain an item regarding the membership of the
different sub-committees. This is due for a revision.
Chairman Wright stated the 3et Ski Tournament was approved
for either the September or the October dates.
ADJOURNMENT;
By proper motion, the Meeting of August 18, 1986, was
adjourned at 7:00 p.m., to ^;15 p.m., on September 15,
1986, for a tour of park lands. The meeting will commence
at 6:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
HARRIETT BABBITT
Minutes Clerk
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September 5, 1986
TO: PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEMBERS
VIA: DAVID BRADSTREET, PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR
FROM: LYNN CHASE, RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT
INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD (ISOC)
BACKGROUND
The Commission granted ISOC a one year trial for an indoor
soccer facility at Monroe tennis courts (10/2785 - 10/26/86).
ISOC requested approval to expand the field of play which
would take over the entire tennis court site.
At the July 21st Commission Meeting, staff gave a report,
Jim Courtney answered questions, and members of the community
voiced opinions about the need for tennis courts and the use/
need for an indoor soccer facility. A petition from tennis
players was submitted requesting the Commission retain the
courts for playing tennis.
Staff was directed to look into finding alternate sites for
the ISOC to use, the cost of lighting the high school tennis
courts and/or finding more tennis courts.
Jim Courtney and staff will meet with the Commission's Special
Projects Committee prior to the September meeting to review
the request and alternatives. (9/9/86, 4:00 p.m. at Harding Center.)
ALTERNATIVES
The Commission has several alternatives to consider:
1. Do nothing at this time; the Monroe Court may be used by
ISOC for the remainder of the one year trial period,
ending 10/25/86.
2. Request ISOC remove their indoor soccer court and return
the tennis court to its former condition.
3. Deny ISOC request to expand the facility.
4. Approve ISOC request to expand; direct staff to negotiate/
prepare a use agreement.
ATTACHMENT "B"
September 5, 1986
INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD (ISOC)
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DISCUSSION
Staff met with Jim Courtney to determine the specific require-
ments for selecting a site and to review what sites he had
checked into.
The criteria for site selection are:
1. Paved surface 85 feet wide by 200 feet long
2. Parking for 30 - 50 vehicles maximum
3. Restrooms available for participants/spectators
4. Walled or enclosed area, preferably with 12 foot high
fencing
5. Drinking water accessible
6. Night lighting desirable
In his search for a site, Jim Courtney has met and discussed
needs with the Parks & Recreation Director, Parks Superintendent,
Recreation Superintendent, CARA, Redevelopment Manager, and
School District personnel. Sites checked out include:
1. Valley Junior High - asphalt tennis courts (6)
2. Cannon Lake Park
3. Stagecoach Park
4. Calavera Park
5. Redevelopment Area
6. Monroe Courts
The Recreation Superintendent met with the School District
Superintendent, Dr. Bierly, and Business Manager, John Blair,
and discussed the availability of Valley Junior High tennis
courts for use by ISOC. It was learned that the tennis court
area may be used for relocatable school room buildings in the
new future; the District will make this decision next January
or February 1987.
At the June Commission Meeting, discussion included the option
of lighting the high school tennis courts as a solution to
providing more usable court time for tennis players. Staff
looked into the costs and received the following informal
quote from Farrendale Tennis Courts of San Diego:
To light three courts with six lights: $10,950
To light nine courts with six lights each: $32,850
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September 5, 1986
INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD (ISOC)
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DISCUSSION CONTINUED
Staff looked into the possibility of using private tennis courts
located within housing tracts, including: Alta Mira, Carlsbad
Palisades, Forest Park, Meadow Ridge, Rancho Carlsbad, Sea
Cliff, Tanglewood, Telescope Pointe, Valley of the Trees. In
addition, use of courts was requested from Sea Pointe Tennis Club
and La Costa Resort. In all cases, the request for use by the
general public during the day time was denied.
Staff followed up on our Department request to Carlsbad High
School Athletic Department for use of 3 courts during the day,
from 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Monday through Friday. We have
received approval for the courts to be used by the general public
every weekday, from 12:00 noon to 1:00 p.m. The request for
11:00 a.m. to 'noon will be finalized by the week of September 8th,
CONCLUSIONS
The Monroe Courts site meets the criteria needed for placement
of the indoor soccer facility; no other city or school owned
property is available at this time.
The Monroe courts are scheduled from youth classes only,
this Fall. A schedule of lessons at other sites is found in
the memo provided by Dee Pope, who supervises the tennis program
(Attachment "A") Youth classes may be relocated, as needed.
The most frequent users of the Monroe courts are adult tennis
players who meet for practice and "free play" during the
mornings. These same players have stated they occasionally
use the high school courts when the Monroe courts have been
used for department lessons or closed for court maintenance.
As the school has approved one hour of use of three courts,
5 days each week, and the probability of approval for an add-
itional hour looks good, the needs of the "Regulars" may be
meet.
Those tennis players who are in competition are already playing
on the high school courts during competition; the 2 courts at
Monroe have not been used for competition, per staff's knowledge.
If the Monroe courts are used by ISOC and revenue is generated
those funds could offset the expense of lighting the high school
courts. Lighted courts, in the north part of Carlsbad, would
greatly increase the availability of tennis courts.
If ISOC is given permission to enter into a Use Agreement, the
expansion may occur prior to the new season, starting in January;
if the Commission chooses to deny the expansion, then ISOC may
wish to request approval to continue for another year.
August 15, 1986
TO: KEN PRICE, PRINCIPAL RECREATION SUPERVISOR
KJDFROM: DEE POPE, RECREATION SUPERVISORY;?'
TENNIS COURTS
Following are the items you requested me to investigate and
gather information for:
1. I spoke with Dale Mitchell of the Carlsbad High School to
find out the status of the applications.
A. The four applications submitted for the afterschool
use will not be approved. This is due to the use of
the courts by the High School Varsity and Junior
Varsity Tennis Program. Their season runs from now
until November 14, 1986, Boys, and February 20, 1986,
until June 1987, Girls.
B. Mr. Mitchell spoke with Mr. Cap (729-7661), the High
School Tennis Coach, and suggested that I speak with
him to work out a possible solution with scheduling
classes at the nine courts.
C. The fifth application submitted will not be processed
——^ ,|/v until Monday or Tuesday, August 18, or 19, 1986.
0vi '* » Mr. Mitchell needs to speak with the Physical Education
^ x/V/^ teacher to verify the hours the tennis courts will be
^•j ., ''' used during the 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. period.
2. A. I spoke with Jim Murry in the City Engineering
Department. The City doesn't have blue prints for
school property because it is approved by the State.
B. I then contacted the Carlsbad School District and
spoke with Nancy Gillespi in the business office.
She provided me with a map of the site. I will be
able to pick up the blue print, on Friday, August 15,
1986.
3. Following is a list of private courts in Carlsbad. Most
of the Home Owner Associatins or Management companies
expressed that the courts are private, only for homeowners:
ATTACHMENT "A1
Community
Location
Alta Mira
Paseo Del Norte
Carlsbad Palisades
El Camino Real & Tamarack
Forest Park
Forest Park Lane
La Costa Townhomes
El Camino Real & Alga
La Costa Resort
El Camino Real
Meadow Ridge
Alga Road
Olympic Resort Hotel
Palomar Rd & El Camino Real
Rancho Carlsbad
El Camino Real
Sea Cliff
Paseo Del Norte
Sea Pointe Tennis Club
Cadencia St.
Tanglewood
Hacienda
Telescope Pointe
High Ridge Avenue
Valley of the Trees
Monroe Street
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Number of Courts
Name of Contact
4 courts
Rob Donath
1 court
Ave.
1 court
2 courts
25 courts
Rosy Purpin
2 courts
Prisilla Whitting
5 courts
Tom Bezie
2 courts
Mrs. Snider
2 courts
Prisilla Whitting
5 courts
Rachell
3 courts
Marv Thompson
1 court
Rob Donath
1 court
Management Co.
Telephone #
Lindsey Management
438-2601
Unknown
Unknown
Unknown
La Costa Resort
438-9111
Loomas Management
438-4844
Olympic Resort
438-8330
Rancho Carlsbad
438-0333
Property Mgmnt. Assoc.
438-4844
Property Mgmnt. Assoc,
434-4566
Tanglewood
729-3048
Lindsey Management
438-2601
Unknown
4. Following is a listing of classes offered in the fall 1986
brochure:
BEGINNING
When: Monday & Wednesday, 3:15 to 4:15 p.m.
Session Dates: Session I : Sept. 15 to Oct. 20
Session II: Nov. 3 to Dec. 10
(Ex. 10/13)
ADVANCED BEGINNING/INTERMEDIATE
When: Monday & Wednesday, 4:15 to 5:15 p.m.
Session Dates: Session I : Sept. 15 to Oct. 20 (Ex. 10/13)
When: Tuesday & Thursday, 3:15 to 4:15 p.m.
Session Dates: Session II: Nov. 4 to Dec. 18 (Ex.11/11 & 11/27)
Location: Monroe Street Courts
BEGINNING
When: Monday & Wednesday, 9:00 to 10:00 a.m.
Session Dates: Session I :
Location:
Session II:
Laguna Riviera
Sept. 15 to Oct. 26 (Ex. 10/13)
Nov. 3 to Dec. 10
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4. Cont.
BEGINNING
When: Wednesday, 5:30 to 7:30 p.m.
Session Dates: Session II: Nov. 5 to Dec. 10
Location: Laguna Riviera
ADVANCED BEGINNING
When: Monday, 5:30 to 7:30 p.m.
Session Dates: Session II: Nov. 3 to Dec. 8
Location: Laguna Riviera
ADVANCED BEGINNING
When: Monday, 5:30 to 7:30 p.m.
Session Dates: Session I: Sept. 15 to Oct. 27 (Ex. 10/13)
Location: Laguna Riviera
BEGINNING
When: Tuesday & Thursday, 3:30 to 4:30 p.m.
Session Dates: Session I : Sept. 16 to Oct. 23
Session II: Nov. 4 to Dec. 18 (Ex. 11/11, 11/27)
ADVANCED BEGINNING
When: Tuesday & Thursday, 4:30 to 5:30 p.m.
Session Dates: Session I: Sept. 16 to Oct. 23
Session II: Nov. 4 to Dec. 18 (Ex. 11/11, 11/27)
Location: La Costa Canyon
BEGINNING
When: Tuesday & Thursday, 11:00 to 12:00 noon
Session Dates: Session I: Sept. 16 to Oct. 23
Session II: Nov. 4 to Dec. 18 (Ex. 11/11, 11/27)
Location: La Costa Canyon
INTERMEDIATE & ADVANCED
When: Thursday, 9:00 to 11:00 a.m.
Session Dates: Session I: Sept. 18 to Oct. 23
Session II: Nov. 6 to Dec. 18 (Ex. 11/27)
Location: La Costa Canyon
INTERMEDIATE
When: Thursday, 5:30 to 7:30 p.m.
Session Dates: Session II: Nov. 6 to Dec. 18 (Ex. 11/27)
Location: La Costa Canyon
BEGINNING
When: Thursday, 5:30 to 7:30 p.m.
Session Dates: Session I: Sept. 8 to Oct. 23
Location: La Costa Canyon
BEGINNING
When: Saturday, 8:30 to 10:30 a.m.
Session Dates: Session I: Sept. 20 to Oct. 25
Location: La Costa Canyon
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4. Cont.
ADVANCED BEGINNING
When: Saturday, 8:30 to 10:30 a.m.
Session Dates: Session II: Nov. 8 to Dec.
Location: La Costa Canyon
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There are only four youth classes offered at the Monroe Street
Courts. The four adult classes that are usually scheduled there
have been re-scheduled at the Laguna Riviera Courts. I expect
some complaints to that effect.
I hope all this information is helpful.
Thanks.
DP: dm
c: Lynn Chase, Recreation Superintendent
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RECOMMENDED ACTION:
If the City Council concurs and wishes to approve the Batiquitos
Lagoon Educational Park Master Plan Parks Agreement your action is
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ITEM EXPLANATION
The City Council, in approving the tentative maps for Phases I, II
and III for the Batiquitos Lagoon Educational Park have conditioned
the projects on satisfaction of the master plan zoning requirement
that the developer dedicate sufficient park land to bring the
quadrant within which the property is located up to the City's
minimum standards. The conditions further require that the developer
will dedicate this land pursuant to a parks agreement entered into
between the City and the developer which must be executed prior to
final map approval. Attached is an agreement which we believe
carries forward the Council's intentions in that regard. It has been
signed by the developer. Under the agreement, Mr. Sammis will
dedicate Jben acres of usable park land to the City at a location to
be determined by the City Council. This dedication will satisfy the
project's obligation of 3.95 acres. The developer has deposited fees
for the final map of Phase I. The dedication must occur prior to the
final map of Phases II or III or the occupancy of any buildings in
the master plan whichever occurs first. Upon dedication, the park
fees deposited in connection with the Phase I map will be refunded.
The City will collect park-in-lieu fees for 6.05 acres of land in the
quadrant from other developers and pass those fees on to Mr. Sammis
in reimbursement for the dedication. This is a land based
arrangement. If the land costs less than the fee equivalent the
developer will profit. If the land costs more than the fees there
will be no reimbursement and that will be an expense to be borne by
the developer as a condition of the master plan zoning. If necessary
the City willcond«nn the property at the developer's expense. The
agt^y^^p^ilfefVet the option that the City Council may choose to
require Sammis to improve City park land instead of the dedication as
necessary to give the City a completed park facility at a cost of not
less than $344,530.
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RESOLUTION NO.8764
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO
EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SAMMIS PROPERTIES
AND THE CITY OF CARLSBAD FOR THE BATIQUITOS LAGOON
EDUCATIONAL PARK MASTER PLAN PARKS AGREEMENT
The City Council of the City of Carlsbad, California
hereby resolves as follows:
1. That the Mayor is authorized to execute the
agreement between the City of Carlsbad and Sammis Properties for
the Batiquitos Lagoon Educational Park Master Plan Parks
Agreement a copy of which is attached hereto and is incorporated
by this reference.
PASSED, APPROVED AND ADOPTED at a regular meeting of the
City Council of the City of Carlsbad, California, held on the
19th day of August , 1986 by the following vote,
to wit:
AYES: Council Members Casler, Lewis, Kulchin and Pettine
NOES: None
ABSENT: Council Member Chick
ATTEST:
MARY H. /CASLER, Mayor
ALETHA L. RAUTENKRANZ , City Cle*k
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3ATIQUITOS LAGOON EDUCATIONAL PARK
MASTER PLAN PARKS AGREEMENT
This parks agreement is made this -=30 ^" day of
, > 1986 between the CITY OF CARLSBAD, ("City") a
municipal corporation of the State of California, and SAMMIS
PROPERTIES, ("Sammis") a California Corporation
who agree as follows:
RECITALS
A. On October 1, 1985 the City Council adopted
Ordinance No. 9778 adopting a master plan for the Batiquitos
Lagoon Educational Park (MP-175) (BLEP). Section VII.B 4.b) of
that master plan reads as follows:
"Park requirements for each planning area, as may be
applicable, shall be established in accordance with City
Council Ordinance No. 9365 adopted October 18, 1973 and
subsequent amendments. [Chapter 20.44 of the Carlsbad
Municipal Code]. In lieu of fees, the City may require
developer to dedicate land off-site for park purposes.
Prior to occupancy of any phase of the development
within the master plan, the-applicant and the City shall
enter into a parks agreement so that land for park
purposes can be dedicated up front to bring the City up
to standard for community parks in this district based
upon current population levels.
"This will be available as a credit against the
property's Quimby Act park dedication requirements, and
in addition, any excess of dedicated land over the
applicant's required amount will be eligible for
reimbursement by future developers within this
district."
This agreement is intended to implement the provisions
of that section of the master plan.
B. Sammis has requested that City approve a final
map for Carlsbad Tract 85-14 for phase I of the BLEP.
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The tentative map for Carlsbad Tract 85-14 contained a
condition which read:
"The City Council may require the developer to dedicate
land off-site for park purposes. If the City Council so
determines prior to occupancy of any of the units in
this project the applicant and the City shall enter into
a parks agreement as required by the master plan."
The Carlsbad City Council on July 8, 1986 approved a
final map for Carlsbad Tract 85-14 subject to the condition that
before recording of the map Sammis and City shall enter into an
agreement for dedication of the park land.
C. The park dedication required in this agreement will
satisfy the requirements of Chapter 20.44 of the Carlsbad
Municipal Code for subdivisions within the BLEP, and implements
the provisions of Section 20.44.110 of the Carlsbad Municipal
Code which provides an alternative procedure for satisfaction of
parks obligations within planned communities through the overall
community planning process rather than on a subdivision by
subdivision basis. City and Sammis recognize the development of
the BLEP will take place over a period of years and intend to
arrange for the dedication of park land in advance of actual need
in order to insure that the park area of the City in which the
BLEP is located will have sufficient park land as required by
City standards before the actual need for the land accrues. In
addition, Sammis has volunteered, and is obligated as a condition
of the master plan, to dedicate 10 acres of usable park land to
the City in order to cure the park land deficiency which exists
in the southwest quadrant of the City.
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In order to cure the deficiency in the southwest
quadrant of 8.3 acres, Sammis will dedicate to the City
approximately 10 acres of usable park land before any buildings
within the BLEP may be occupied. Sammis will be reimbursed for
the land dedicated in excess of the park obligation for the BLEP.
For the purpose of this agreement it is agreed that the park
obligation for the BLEP is 3.95 acres of park land.
D. In lieu of the obligation to dedicate park land
under this agreement Sammis may propose and the City Council may
authorize Sammis to improve park land that the City owris to the
satisfaction of the City Council. The cost of such improvements
shall not be less than the amount of fees Sammis would otherwise
be required to pay in lieu of the 3.95 acre park land dedication
requirement for the BLEP.
NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the mutual covenants
contained herein an incorporating the recitals set forth above
the parties agree as follows:
1. In satisfaction of its master plan obligation to
dedicate park land Sammis agrees to acquire and dedicate to the
City of Carlsbad approximately 10 acres of land suitable and
usable for park and recreational purposes within City of Carlsbad
park district 3 (southwest quadrant). The location of and the
suitability for park purposes land shall be approved by the City
Council pursuant to paragraph 5 prior to the dedication to the
City. The dedication shall occur prior to the filing of a final
map for Phases II or III of the master plan or the occupancy of
any buildings within the BLEP, whichever occurs first. The
dedication shall be free and clear of all liens and
encumbrances.
2. Park Dedication Credits. (a) The parties agree
that the park land dedication requirements for the development of
BLEP is not less than 3.95 acres as determined at the time of
execution of this agreement. If the requirement for park land
dedication increases within the BLEP by either an increase in the
acreage per population or an increase in the calculated number of
people who will be residing within the master plan area as
determined by Chapter 20.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code then
the park dedication requirement for Sammis shall increase. If
changes occur to Chapter 20.44 which would decrease the park land
dedication requirements the parties agree that there shall not be
a reduction in the master plan park requirement below the 3.95
acre level.
(b) Upon dedication of the park land specified in
paragraph 1 the amount of the land dedicated shall constitute a
credit in favor of Sammis to be held on account by the City to be
drawn upon in satisfaction of the park dedication obligations of
subdivisions within the BLEP.
(c) As a condition of receiving the final map for
Carlsbad Tract 85-14 Sammis has entered into an agreement to pay
park in lieu fees as required by Carlsbad Municipal Code Chapter
20.44. If, at the time of obtaining the building permits for
the residential portion of Carlsbad Tract 85-14, the land which
is the subject of this agreement has not yet been dedicated
Sammis shall pay the park in lieu fees to the City as required by
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that agreement. Upon making the dedication improvements
satisfying the alternative under paragraph 4, those fees shall be
refunded to Sammis without interest.
3. Reimbursement. Sammis shall be reimbursed from
park-in-lieu fees collected in the southwest quadrant of the City
for the amount of land dedicated which is in excess of the park
land dedication requirement for the BLEP as determined pursuant
to this agreement and the appropriate provisions of the Carlsbad
Municipal Code, eg., 10 acres (dedicated) minus 3.95 acres
(obligation) equals 6.05 acres (reimbursable acreage).
Reimbursement shall be paid from park-in-lieu fees collected as
follows: The City shall collect from subdividers within the
southwest quadrant (except for subdividers within BLEP) fees in
lieu of park land dedication pursuant to the provisions of
Chapter 20.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code in effect at the
time the fees are collected. The fees collected shall then be
paid over to Sammis less a three percent administrative charge
which shall be retained by the City to cover the cost of
administering this agreement. The amount of the remaining land
for which Sammis receives reimbursement shall be reduced in an
amount equal to the amount of land which would otherwise have
been required to be dedicated for the subdivision paying the
fees. The reimbursement shall continue until the balance of the
land for which reimbursement is owed is zero acres. If after 15
years, Sammis has not been reimbursed out of park-in-lieu fees
collected from the southwest quadrant of the City, the City shall
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then reimburse Sammis from park-in-L ieu fees collected in the
remainder of the City.
4. Improvement Alternative. In the discretion of the
City Council, the City may, in lieu of the dedication of the park
land required by Section 1 of this agreement, require Sammis to
improve park land owned by the City as determined by the Parks
and Recreation Director and the City Council, and deliver to the
City a completed park facility. The cost of such improvements
shall not be less than $344,530.
5. Access. The park site dedicated under this
agreement, as a condition of acceptance by City Council, shall
have reasonable access to a dedicated street or other access
acceptable to the City and shall have reasonable access to. sewer
and other necessary public utilities and otherwise shall meet
City's reasonable criteria for .parks as set forth in City's
general plan. The City Council shall determine the adequacy of
the access and the geological and geographical suitability of the
site for development of active recreational facilities before the
land is dedicated to the City. Sammis shall provide any
information, studies, surveys or other data necessary to
establish the suitability of the site for park purposes.
6. Nature of the Master Plan. City and Sammis
acknowledge that the BLEP is part of the City's dynamic changing
land use planning process and that the City may change the master
plan pursuant to the provisions of the Carlsbad Municipal Code at
any time. It is acknowledged by the parties that in the course
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of the development of the property the park dedication
requirement for the Batiquitos Lagoon Educational Park master
plan may change. In the event that the parks requirement for the
master plan changes it is agreed that the parks obligation for
the purposes of this agreement shall not be less than 3.95
acres .
7. Acquisition by Condemnation. If Sammis is unab.le to
acquire the land necessary to fulfill its obligations under this
agreement City agrees to use its power of eminent domain to
acquire the necessary property interest. Sammis shall notify the
City of the inability to acquire the land not less than 100 days
prior to the time occupancy of the buildings or the final map for
Phases II and III of the master plan will be requested. Sammis
agrees to bear all expenses, costs, fees and charges including
land costs, attorneys, engineers, appraisers, or other
professional service fees, and court costs; incurred or charged
in connection with the acquisition of the property interests in
the preparation and prosecution of the eminent domain proceeding.
The City shall assume no responsibility for said amounts. There
shall be no charge for City staff time associated with such
acquisition. No occupancy shall be granted until the acquisition
is .completed.
8. Successors and Assigns. This agreement shall bind
and inure to the benefit of the parties, their respective assigns
and successors, and the successors owners1 of the property.
9. Attorneys Fees . In the event of any dispute between
the parties relating to the terms of the subject matter of this
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agreement, the parties agree that the prevailing party shall be
entitled to reasonable attorneys fees together with all costs and
damages as determined by the court regardless of whether the
dispute is settled or prosecuted to judgment.
10. Amendments. No change in or addition to this
agreement or any part hereof shall be valid unless it is in
writing and signed by all the parties hereto.
11. Severability. If any portion of this agreement is
held by a court or arbitrator or competent jurisdiction to be
invalid, void or unenforceable the remainder of the portions
hereof shall remain in full force and effect and shall no way be
effected impaired or invalidated.
12. Entire Agreement. This agreement constitutes the
entire understanding between the parties with respect to the
subject matter hereof, superseding all negotiations, prior
discussions, preliminary agreements or understandings written or
oral.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties hereto have executed
this agreement on the day and year first above written.
CITY OF CARLSBAD
a Municipal Corporation of the
State of California
MARY H. /CASLER, Mayor
ATTEST:
ALETHA L. RAUTENKRANZ, City ClerMr*
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APPROVED AS TO FORM
VINCENT F. BIONDO, JR. i ,,
City Attorney ' ^
SAMMIS PROPERTIES
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STATE OF CALIFORNIA
COUNTY OF
before me. the undersigned, a Notary Public in and for said
. personally known to me (or proved to me
on (he basis of satisfactory evidence) to be the
OU.IUJIJT of the corporation that executed the within Instrument.
be the persons who executed the withinknown to me to
Instrument on behalf of the corporation therein named, and
acknowledged to me that such corporation executed the within
instrument pursuant to its by-laws or a resolution of its board
of directors.
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KATPNNA R. PflWV
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August 27, 1986
To: Board Members, Carlsbad Unified School District
Superintendent, Carlsbad Unified School District
From: Historic Preservation Commission, City of Carlsbad
Subject: District Offices, 801 Pine Ave.
The Historic Preservation Commission will be recommending to
the City council that the buildings that comprise school district
offices at 801 Pine Ave. be considered for preservation under
terms of the City's Historic Preservation Ordinance.
After our commission toured the structures, the decision to
recommend preservation was unanimous.
We would also like to assure that past school records be
included in this act of preservation. We were unable to
ascertain whether these records exist, or if they do, what
condition they might be in. we feel these records are as
valuable as the structures and we would like some information
from the school district as to their location and condition.
Sincerely,
Brian Robertson, Chairman
l<5c:David Bradstreet, Director Parks and Recreation, City of Carlsbad
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CITY OF CARLSBAD
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
AGENDA
DATE: SEPTEMBER 8, 1986
TIME: 5:00 P.M.
PLACE: CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL BLACKFORD CHRISTIANSEN HOWARD-JONES
ROBERTSON SWENSON
ITEMS:
OLD BUSINESS:
1. CARRILLO RANCH -
a. Film
b. Grant Application
2. 3309 ROOSEVELT STREET
3. BUDGET
4. PROPOSED SITES
INFORMATIONAL
5. Correspondence
6. News Articles
ADJOURNMENT
ITEM 1A
SEPTEMBER 8, 1986
TO: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
FROM: REDEVELOPMENT OFFICE
CARRILLO RANCH FILM
Joe Skymba of the Audio-Visual Services Department will show
the film he made of Carrillo Ranch approximately 10 years '•
ago while "Tony" Carrillo Delpy was living at the ranch.
The film is approximately 20 minutes.
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SEPTEMBER 8, 1986
TO: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
FROM: REDEVELOPMENT OFFICE
CARRILLO RANCH GRANT APPLICATION
Attached is the list of repairs necessary for Carrillo Ranch
that was prepared by Roy Blackford after the ranch tour on
August 20, 1986. A letter from Tony Mata, Principal Building
Inspector, is also attached stating that the structure meets
requirements of the Historic Building Code.
The next step is to prioritize and cost estimate the items.
Staff is arranging to discuss the cost of each item with a
local contractor inorder to obtain a realistic estimate.
The Commission may wish to discuss priority of repairs by
individual structure or by overall need.
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B. Main House - adobe with tile roofing.
C. Wash-House - adobe with tile roofing.
D. Cabana and Pool - adobe with tile roofing
E. Adobe with wood shake roofing.
F. Carriage House - adobe with tile roofing.
G. Storage Building - wood frame
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SUBJECT: Carrillo Ranch Site Visit - August 20, 1986
List of Conditions that Require Repair, Correction or Removal:
(See Site Diagram for example locations)
1. Termite and/or dryrot damage to roof sheathing and/or beams.
2. Masonry site wall settlement.
3. Adobe slurry coat deterioration.
4. Settlement of building wall continuation/site wall.
5. Termite and/or dryrot damage at base of wood wall.
6. House wall settlement.
7. Standing water in basement - from underground seepage.
8. Masonry (adobe) porch column deterioration.
9. Wood porch column settlement.
10. Roll roofing beyond expected life.
11. Interior and exterior slurry coat deterioration and damage from settlement.
12. Termite damage at porch beam.
13. Termite damage at exposed door header.
14. Roof framing connections loose and/or non-existent.
15. Adobe wall deterioration.
16. Roof framing deflection.
17. Foundation settlement.
18. Foundation required.
19. Roof sheathing and framing deterioration.
20. Wood shake roofing beyond life expectancy.
21. Termite damage at door jambs.
22. Support required/slurry coat on wood above door header.
23. Retaining wall failure.
24. Cobble paving deterioration.
25. Total building deterioration - complete removal suggested.
26. Swimming pool wall failure.
27. Adobe deterioration at entrance markers at road.
28. Tile roofing beyond expected life.
Comment; There are several occurrences of wall failure that appear to be the
result of settlement that should be investigated by a Consulting Engineer. The
services of the Engineer should be directed at specific steps necessary to stop
further deterioration of the structures and mitigating the City's liability of
personal injury.
SEPTEMBER 4, 1986
TO: PATTY CRATTY, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT II
FROM: Principal Building Inspector
LEO CARRILLO RANCH
In reference to the validity of structural value to the buildings at the Leo
Carrillo Ranch, the following comments will probably be of some help.
Bear in mind that these buildings are of late 1800 or early 1900 design and,
therefore, are only acceptable as per the time of their use and types of
construction material. Since the innovation of these buildings, they were
constructed only to meet the owner's satisfaction and not subject to any
codes .
If it is the desire of the City of Carlsbad or the Historical Society to preserve
these buildings, I would recommend that all precaution be taken to ensure
the safety of the public by removing all dry-rotted and termite-infested
material which is evident.
Any replacement of removed existing structure material should assume the
original installation of its time.
It would probably be in the best interest to all concerned to engage a
structural engineer to evaluate the stability and condition of these buildings
and perhaps even run tests and gauge any material that these buildings
depend upon for stability.
Enclosed is a copy of the Uniform Building Code, Chapter One, Section 104-F.
With this in mind and following these guidelines, procedure of this enterprise
for public viewing or even public use could enhance the longevity of these
buildings for future generations .
For any further information, please feel free to call me.
TONY/ MAT>
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Enclosure
104 UNIFORM BUILDING CODE
in use or occupancy, shall not exceed the height, number of stories and area
permitted for new buildings. Any building plus new additions shall not exceed the
height, number of stories and area specified for new buildings.
Alterations or repairs to an existing building or structure which are nonstruc-
tural and do not adversely affect any structural member or any part of the building
or structure having required fire resistance may be made with the same materials
of which the building or structure is constructed.
EXCEPTION: The installation or replacement of glass shall be as required for
new installations.
(c) Existing Installations. Buildings in existence at the time of the adoption of
this code may have their existing use or occupancy continued, if such use or
occupancy was legal at the time of the adoption of this code, provided such
continued use is not dangerous to life.
Any change in the use or occupancy of any existing building or structure shall
comply with the provisions of Sections 307 and 502 of this code.
For existing buildings, see Appendix Chapter 1.
(d) Maintenance. All buildings and structures, both existing and new, and all
parts thereof, shall be maintained in a safe and sanitary condition. All devices or
safeguards which are required by this code shall be maintained in conformance
with the code edition under which installed. The owner or his designated agent
shall be responsible for the maintenance of buildings and structures. To determine
compliance with this subsection, the building official may cause any structure to
be remspected.
(e) Moved Buildings and Temporary Buildings. Buildings or structures
moved into or within the jurisdiction shall comply with the provisions of this code
for new buildings or structures.
Temporary structures such as reviewing stands and other miscellaneous struc-
tures, sheds, canopies or fences used for the protection of the public around and in
conjunction with construction work may be erected by special permit from the
building official for a limited period of time. Such buildings or structures need not
comply with the type of construction or fire-resistive time periods required by this
code. Temporary buildings or structures shall be completely removed upon the
expiration of the time limit stated in the permit.
(0 Historic Buildings. Repairs, alterations and additions necessary for the
preservation, restoration, rehabilitation or continued use of a building or structure
may be made without conformance to all the requirements of this code when
authorized by the building official, provided:
1. The building or structure has been designated by official action of the
legally constituted authority of this jurisdiction as having special historical
or architectural significance.
2. Any unsafe conditions as described in this code are corrected.
3. The restored building or structure will be no more hazardous based on life
safety, fire safety and sanitation than the existing building.
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ITEM 2
SEPTEMBER 8, 1986
TO: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
FROM: REDEVELOPMENT OFFICE
3309 ROOSEVELT STREET
This item is for continued discussion on the structure at
3309 Roosevelt Street. The owners Mr. and Mrs. Robert Carreon
have requested information on the possibility of a rehabilitation
loan to repair and expand. If the expansion is not feasible,
they may demolish the structure.
At Commissions direction, staff has sent a memo to the
Community Development Director asking that permits not be
issued on this structure until the Commission evaluates the
site.
PATRICIA A. CRATTY
PAC:al
Attachment
September 4, 1986
TO: COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
FROM: Administrative Assistant II/Redevelopment
VIA: Community Redevelopment
3309 ROOSEVELT STREET
It has come to the attention of the Historic Preservation
Commission that the site at 3309 Roosevelt Street could be
demolished. This site is on a priority listing for possible
designation as a historic site or point of interest. At their
meeting on-Monday, September 8, 1986, the Commission will be
discussing possibilities for the site. Please assure that
no permits are issued for the site prior to action by the
Commission.
If. you need additional information, please call.
/ ,1.
PATRICIA A. CRATTY
PAC:al
ITEM 3
SEPTEMBER 8, 1986
TO: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
FROM: REDEVELOPMENT OFFICE
PROPOSED BUDGET
Attached is a copy of the proposed budget for the Commission
that will go to City Council on September 16, 1986.
.
PATRICIA A. CRATTY
PAC:al
Attachment
CITY OF CARLSBAD - AGENDA BILL
AB*
MTCV 9/16/86
n«T RED
TI1\E: APPROVAL OF FY 86-87 OPERATING
BUDGET FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION
COMMISSION ANH APPROPRIATION!
OF FUNDS
DEPT. HD.
CITY ATTY
CITY MGR.
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RECOMMENDED ACTION:
If Council concurs your action is to adopt Resolution No.
approving the FY 86-87 Operating Budget for Historic
Preservation Commission in the amount of $5,400 and authorize
the Finance Director to transfer funds from general fund
contingency account.
ITEM EXPLANATION
On April 15, 1986, City Council appointed a five (5) member
Historic Preservation Commission to advise Council, its
boards and commissions on matters relating to Historic
Preservation.
The Commission has been meeting regularly and researching
various sites. In conjunction with Commission duties,
certain expenses are being encountered that cannot appropriately
be charged to departmental budgets. These expenses include
general office expense, travel, telephone and other related
expenses incurred for grant applications and site research.
In order to correctly charge these expenses a budget of
$5,400 is being requested for the remainder of FY 86-87.
Council is requested to approve the Historic Preservation
Budget for Fiscal Year 86-87 in the amount of $5,400 and
authorize the Finance Director to transfer funds from the
contingency account.
FISCAL IMPACT
The transfer of $5,400 from the general fund contingency
account will be necessary to support the recommended budget.
This transfer will reduce the contingency account balance
to $1,188,840.
EXHIBITS
1 - Resolution No,
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1 RESOLUTION NO.
2 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA APPROVING FY 86-87
3 BUDGET FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
AND APPROVING TRANSFER OF FUNDS.
4
5 WHEREAS, the City Council of the City of Carlsbad,
6 California has considered the need for a budget for the Historic
7 Preservation Commission; and
8 WHEREAS, the City Council of the City of Carlsbad has
9 determined that a budget for FY 86-87 in the- amount of $5,400
10 is necessary for Historic Preservation Commission expenses; and
11 WHEREAS, the City Council may transfer funds from the
12 general fund contingency account to support the recommended
13 budget.
14 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the
15 City of Carlsbad, California, as follows:
16 1. That the above recitations are true and correct.
17 2. That a FY 86-87 budget for Historic Preservation
Commission in the amount of $5,400 is hereby approved.
18
3. That the Finance Director is hereby authorized to
19 transfer funds in the amount of $5,400 to the Historic
Preservation Commission budget as shown on Attachment
20 "A", attached hereto and made a part hereof.
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PASSED, APPROVED AND ADOPTED at a regular meeting of the
City Council of the City of Carlsbad,on the 16th day of
September, 1986, by the following vote, to wit:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
ATTEST
MARY H. CASLER, Mayor
ALETHA L. RAUTENKRANZ, City Clerk
(SEAL)
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CITY OF CARLSBAD
1986-87 BUDGtT
ATTACHMENT A
PF.nSOMUEL S
MAINTENANCE A OPERATION
CAPITAL OUTLAY
DEBT SERVICE
SUB TOTAL
SERVICES PERFORMED FOR OTHER
DEPARTMENTS
TOTAL BUDHET
TOTAL FULL TIME POSITIOMS
AnnpTF.n I ESTIMATE
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TO IMPLEMENT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE AND
INSURE THAT ALL ASPECTS OF THE ORDINANCE ARE FULFILLED.
CITY OF CARLSBAD
19 86 -87
NAIMlbNANCL ft OPLRATION
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2220
2520
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2550
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DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS
POSTAGE
OFFICE SUPPLIES
SPECIAL DEPARTMENTAL SUPPLIES
BOOKS AND PUBLICATIONS
TRAVEL EXPENSE
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CITY OF CARLSBAD
1986-87 BUDGtl
MAIHltNANCk * OPtKATION
OR MEETING EXPENSE
SEMINARS AND WORKSHOPS FOR
COMMISSIONERS
STAFF TRAVEL FOR COMMITTEE
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ITEM 4
SEPTEMBER 8, 1986
TO: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
FROM: REDEVELOPMENT OFFICE
PROPOSED SITES
Since a public hearing on the six (6) proposed sites could
not be held due to legal noticing, the Commission needs to
continue this item to their next regular meeting of Monday.,
October 13, 1986, at 5:00 P.M.
Information relative to the sites may be discussed.
(- /;
PATRICIA A. CRATTY
PAC:al
A:)
ITEM 5
&6
SEPTEMBER 8, 1986
TO: HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
FROM: REDEVELOPMENT OFFICE
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
Attached are copies of correspondence and news articles
generated since your last meeting.
PATRICIA A. CRATTY
PAC:al
Attachments
August 27, 1986
To: Board Members, Carlsbad Unified School District
Superintendent, Carlsbad Unified School District
From: Historic Preservation Commission, City of Carlsbad
Subject: District Offices, 801 Pine Ave.
The Historic Preservation Commission will be recommending to
the City Council that the buildings that comprise school district
offices at 801 Pine Ave. be considered for preservation under
terms of the City's Historic preservation Ordinance.
After our commission toured the structures, the decision to
recommend preservation was unanimous.
We would also like to assure that past school records be
included in this act of preservation. We were unable to
ascertain whether these records exist, or if they do, what
condition they might be in. We feel these records are as
valuable as the structures and we would like some information
from the school district as to their location and condition.
Sincerely,
Brian Robertson, Chairman
cc: David Bradstreet, Director Parks and Recreation, City of Carlsbad
Citp of Cartebab
September 4, 1986 For Immediate Release
News Release
Pat Cratty
Redevelopment Agency
438-5593
The City of Carlsbad's Historic Preservation Commission will
preview a 20-minute film on the Leo Carillo Ranch at its next regular
meeting, scheduled for 5 p.m., Monday, September 8. The commission will
meet in the Council Chambers at City Hall, 1200 Elm Avenue. The public is
encouraged to attend.
The five-member commission is gathering information on historic sites
in Carlsbad. As part of that factfinding, the group is researching the
Carillo Ranch built in 1936 by the late film star Leo Carillo.
The film, "Carillo Ranch", was produced by City photographer Joe
Skymba approximately 10 years ago when Carillo's daughter was still
living at the ranch.
Because many of the current structures at the ranch have since been
deteriorated by weather and time, the City is seeking $150,000 to $200,000
in state grant money from the Historic Preservation Office to rehabilitate
and maintain the buildings.
The City has owned the Carillo Ranch since 1976 when it was dedicated
to Carlsbad for parks purposes.
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CITY OF CARLSBAD
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS
PARK SITE AND
FACILITY PLANNING
C. Regan
S. Dahlquist
J. Conti
J. Popovich
SCHOOL DISTRICT LIAISON
J. Popovich
S. Wright
C. Regan - Encinitas
B. Donovan - San Marcos
UPDATE CITY-WIDE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN
J. Popovich
S. Wright
M. Morrison
SPECIAL PROGRAMS/PROJECTS
S. Dahlquist
J. Popovich
M. Morrison
RECREATION/LEISURE SERVICES
J. Conti
S. Wright
S. Dahlquist
STREET TREE & SIGNAGE PROGRAM
C. Regan
B. Donovan
BUDGET
J. Popovich
C. Regan
COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER PROGRAM
B. Donovan
ATTACHMENT
Parks & Recreation Commission
September 15, 1986
"The Green Sheet"
Calavera Hills Park - Plans and specifications have been completed
and are presently going through Engineering Department review.
Stagecoach Park is approximately 50 percent completed. The slope
stabilization issue will be going to City Council on Tuesday,
September 16, 1986.
Golf Course Feasibility Study - Consultant will be giving prelim-
inary report to Commission Sub-Committee in approximately three
weeks. Final report will be made to Commission on October 20, 1986.
HPI - Master Plan has lost its exemption. Park dedication may be
delayed.
Senior Center Update - City is awaiting School District appraisal
of Administration site property. Capital Projects Division will
be coordinating this project.
Parks Division staff are working on the landscaping of the Atrium
at the Safety Center.
Parks, Beach and Access signs have been installed.
Tennis Courts at Carlsbad High on Valley Street are being resurfaced,
Completion date is set at September 12.
California Coastal Clean Up is Saturday, September 20th at
Tamarack State Beach Parking Lot at 8:30 a.m. Call Ken Price at
438-5576 if you .would like to volunteer or need further details.
Recreation Division hosted a Volleyball Tournament the weekend
of September 6th at Oceanside Harbor Beach. This event was
co-sponsored by Michelob and 53 teams participated.
The annual Bodyboard Contest is scheduled for September 13 and 14
at Pine Street Beach Access below Offshore Surf Shop. For more
information, contact Jody Prichard at 438-5533.
Agua Hedionda Lagoon patrol program ended its season. This year's
program ran extremely well and had a record number of permit sales.
1200 ELM AVENUE B^&KT H TELEPHONE
CARLSBAD, CA 92008-1989 mJfWI-AM (619)438-5571
Cttp of Cartebab
PARKS & RECREATION DEPARTMENT
August 25, 1986
Mr. & Mrs. Vigil
2805 Ocean Street
Carlsbad, California 92008
Dear Mr. & Mrs. Vigil:
This correspondence is a follow up from the Parks and
Recreation Commission meeting of August 18, 1986, specifically
the issue of the time lock gate which you are to install.
The Parks and Recreation Department respectfully requests
you take the necessary actions to finalize the installation
of the time lock mechanism onto the gates. In addition, it
is requested the bottom gate be altered to open towards the
street. (This could be accomplished by cutting approximately
three to six inches off the bottom of the gate.) The Parks
and Recreation Department asks that the gate alteration and
lock installation be completed in a timely manner.
Staff from the Parks and Recreation Department will monitor
the progress of this project. In addition inquiries will be
made with the fencing contractor as to why there have been
delays on this gate installation.
Thank you for your cooperation with this matter.
Respectfully, J
'- S^.'~ ~Doug Duncanson
Acting Parks & Recreation Director
DD:dm
c: David Bradstreet, Parks & Recreation Director
Parks & Recreation Commission