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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-09-15; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMINUTES Meeting of: Time of Meeting: Date of Meeting: Place of Meeting: PARKS 4 RECREATION COMMISSION 6:30 p.m. September 15, 1986 City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Wright called the Meeting to order at 6:45 p.m. ROLL CALL; Present - Chairman Wright, Commissioners Dahlquist, Lawson, Morrison, Popovich and Regan. Absent - Commissioner Donovan. Staff Present: Dave Bradstreet, Director of Parks and Recreation Keith Beverly, Administrative Assistant Lynn Chase, Recreation Superintendent Doug Duncanson, Parks Superintendent PUBLIC OPEN FORUH Majorie Howard-3ones, 3985 Park Drive, addressed the Commission and announced that the Carlsbad Heritage Celebration is scheduled from May-November, 1987. Information has been provided to the Commissioners about this celebration. November 1, 1986 is the deadline for the publication of a calendar of events. The events will be focusing on Carlsbad's heritage. Ms. Howard-Jones stated that this celebration will be of special interest to this Commission because the main focus will be the Carrillo Ranch; any excess money and any projects will be directed towards the restoration of the ranch. She suggested that the Commission schedule one of its activities as a heritage celebration. APPROVAL OF MINUTES; The minutes of the meeting held August 18, 1986 were approved with the following changes: (1) the word "southeast" should be corrected to "southwest" on page 2 under the Samrnis Properties heading and on page 3, last paragraph, and (2) the word "developed" should be inserted in the following sentence of the third paragraph, page 8: "...Macario Canyon Park developed...". APPROVAL OF AGENDA The Agenda was approved with the following additions under "ADDITIONAL BUSINESS": A. Update of Holiday Park Renovations B. Subsequent Tour of Sites prior to the election C. Letter from Lakeshore Gardens Association, Golden State Homeowners League APPOINT SCRIBE Commissioner Dahlquist was appointed Scribe for this meeting. UNFINISHED BUSINESS A. Scribe Report Chairman Wright called attention to the Scribe report in the packet. Wright Dahlquist Lawson Morrison Popovich Regan Wright Dahlquist Lawson Morrison Popovich Regan MINUTES PARKS AND RECREAriON COMMISSION September 15, 1986 Page 2 B. I.S.O.C. REQUEST TO USE MONROE COURTS Chairman Wright gave a brief background on this item. Lynn Chase, Recreation Superintendent, gave the presentation on the item as contained in the staff report. She informed that the Commission's Special Projects Committee met with 3im Courtney and staff to review the request and the alternatives. She stated that one of the alternatives is a use agreement which consists of requiring I.S.O.C. to return the courts in the condition that they were in when they first acquired the courts, and requiring the payment of a negotiated fee (the alternatives for the use of that money are also listed in the agreement). Commissioner Dahlquist, chairperson of the committee, reported on the committee's recommendations as contained in the staff report. She pointed out that one of the recommendations Is that the public be permitted to use the high school courts from 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. There is approval for 12:00 noon to 1:00 p.m. But, the 11:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon period is still pending. The committee Is recommending approval of the expansion request from I.S.O.C. Commissioner Lawson expressed his concern In allowing indoor soccer to use the proposed facilities since it is on a temporary basis only. He suggested that the Commission and staff consider long-range planning for Indoor soccer at this time. The following individuals addressed the Commission in support of allowing I.S.O.C. to use the Monroe Courts due to the lack of indoor soccer fields and gave the good aspects of the indoor soccer game itself: Oames Courtney, <f914 Avila Avenue. Tom McMahan, Or., 4028 Park Drive. He questioned why the tennis courts at Valley Junior High could not be resurfaced and suggested that the tennis courts on Valley Street be expanded from 9 to 12 courts. 3oe Wilson, 4916 Avila. Kitty Walker, *907 Neblina. Trenton Knox, 1860 High Ridge Robert Faithful, ^933 Avila Avenue Larry Grandy, 2738 Victoria Avenue The following Individuals addressed the Commission in opposition to allowing I.S.O.C. to expand due to the lack of tennis courts in the City for tennis players, tennis tournaments, and the high school students: Carol Anderson, 920 Daisy. She expressed concern regarding the potential traffic and parking problems that It will create. MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION September 15, 1986 Page 3 COMMISSIONERS Sheryl L. Campbell, 3360 Ridgecrest, representing Carlsbad High Tennis Athletic Department Program and the Physical Education Department. She stated that Bob Fisher, head of the high school physical education department, authorized her to speak regarding his opposition to conversion of the tennis courts to soccer. Ms. Campbell also opposed the conversion and stated she has used the courts for both physical education classes and Ounior Varsity tennis. She stressed that the Valley Street Courts are used extensively for tennis units and volley/tennis units. The public is asked to remove themselves and use the Monroe Courts. Glenda Hasselo, 3299 Donna Drive. She questioned whether the City would follow through and use the funds generated by the soccer players to maintain the tennis courts. Pat Hansen, 3514 Highland Drive. Irene Strause, 3291 Highland Drive. Cliff Chandler, 3969 Adams, also spoke In opposition to the conversion and noted that Marvin Cap, High School Tennis Coach, had stated the high school tennis program would suffer. Ramona Finnila, ^615 Trieste Drive, requested that the Commission function as an inventory taker of what is needed In the community and as a complaint bureau. She pointed out that she felt that the City could afford sports facilities for both sports. Chairman Wright reported that the national standards for both soccer and tennis Is one court/soccer field for every 10,000 people. This would amount to approximately five courts for Carlsbad. There are 15 tennis courts available now. Four tennis courts are under construction right now at Stagecoach Park, and two more will be under construction at Calavera Hills. If the City takes the Commission's recommendation that the high school tennis courts be lighted, this will give more hours to tennis players. He pointed out that 25% of the tennis tournament players are Carlsbad residents; while the indoor soccer players are virtually all Carlsbad residents. Chairman Wright stated that speaking as the athletic director at Carlsbad High, he could not see the feasibility of expanding the hours of the Valley Courts from 11:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon for public use. In response to a question by Commissioner Dahlquist, Mr. Bradstreet pointed out that the public will be able to use the Stagecoach Park tennis courts in Ouly 1987. Commissioner Lawson reiterated his concern that the soccer group should push toward locating a more permanent facility since It has been determined that the game is successful and a growing sport. Commissioner Dahlquist stressed that It is important for the Commission to make a determination now whether to allow the expansion of indoor soccer due to the time frame involved (the right to use the courts will soon expire). MINUTES September 15, 1986 Page 4 Y£ COMMISSIONERS \ Following further discussion, a motion was made and seconded to recommend the following: (1) allow I.S.O.C. to expand and use the Monroe Courts; (2) extend the hours for public use of the Valley Courts from 12:00 noon to 1:00 p.m.; (3) that the City light the nine tennis courts at the high schools out of CIP funds; (4) that the monies generated by indoor soccer be used to replace the CIP funds; and (5) if at some time I.S.O.C. vacates the site, that they return the courts In the condition that they are In right now. Commissioner Regan proposed that the motion be amended to Include that staff negotiate a use agreement with I.S.O.C. This was agreed to by the mover and seconder of the motion. Commissioner Regan inquired whether there should be a time period set up to evaluate I.S.O.C's use of the tennis courts. It was the consensus of the majority of the Commissioners that I.S.O.C. has already been evaluated and has been found to be successful. In response to a question by Commissioner Morrison, Lynn Chase clarified that staff recommended that the City not conduct the soccer program. It was preferred that it be run on a lease arrangement . Commissioner Lawson moved that the motion on the floor be amended to include that the feasibility of relocating the indoor soccer facility on a permanent basis be initiated. The amendment to the motion was seconded. Commissioner Dahlquist requested that the amendment be considered separately from the motion. The mover and the seconder of the amendment agreed. Chairman Wright gave the reasons why he would be abstaining to the motion on the floor. As the athletic director at Carlsbad High he could not support the motion; however, as Chairman of the Commission, he could understand the needs of the community. The Parks and Recreation Commission recommended (1) approval of I.S.O.C's request to expand the courts to the full Monroe tennis courts; (2) that the public use of the Basswood/Valiey tennis courts be expanded to include the hours of 12:00 noon to 1:00 p.m.; (3) that the City light the high school's tennis courts at Basswood and Valley using CIP funds or whatever funds are available; and (<0 that staff negotiate a use agreement with I.S.O.C. to Include that they repay for the costs of lighting the tennis courts out of monies generated by them, and that they return the courts In their original state upon their vacating the courts. Commissioner Lawson stated that he could not support losing two additional tennis courts and continuing with the same short-range arrangements. Wright Dahlquist Lawson Morrison Popov ich Regan o^ X — , X X X X X X MINUTES r PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION September 15, 1996 Page 5 COMMISSIONERS Chairman Wright stated that the City makes a delineation between youth soccer field and adult soccer fields. The City has four youth soccer fields and thirteen other fields that are available. There are three adult soccer fields and seven other fields that are available. He added that the City Council has adopted its own standards which supercede the national standards. They are one youth soccer field for every ^,000 people, and one adult soccer field for every 6,000 people. Following further discussion, the Parks and Recreation Commission directed staff to look into permanent sites for the location of the indoor soccer facilities. RECESS The Parks and Recreation recessed at 8:12 p.m. and reconvened at 8:37 p.m., with all members present. Chairman Wright announced that "Additional Business - A." will be taken prior to the other agenda items at this time. ADOITiONAL BUSINESS A. Update of Holiday Park Renovations David Bradstreet, Parks and Recreation Director, introduced Jeff Bunnel who is working on the Capital Projects Division as an engineer and is in charge of many various CIP projects for the City. 3eff Bunnel addressed the Commission and reported that basically the plans and specifications have been signed for the Holiday Park/Eureka Place Improvement Project which consists of full width street Improvements, curb, gutter, and sidewalk repairs on the east side of Eureka Place, and curbs, gutters and new parking facilities on the west side of Eureka Place. The bid opening date is set for October 1, 1986. Mr. Bunnel and Mr. Bradstreet answered various questions from the Commissioners regarding the project. There will be approximately 85 additional parking spaces. The Council gave Its approval that the project be fully improved -- sidewalks, parking spaces, etc. around Holiday Park. Mr. Bunnel concluded by stating that they have worked the parking spots to maximize the parking and to minimize the impact on the trees at the park. There will be City standard street lights on both sides of the street. UNFINISHED BUSINESS (Continued) C. Southwest Quadrant Park Site A motion was made and seconded that the ten acres of land that Sammis Properties has agreed to dedicate to the City be added to the Alta Mira site and that staff pursue the possibilities of acquiring an additional ten acres in the same area which would give the City a total of 32 acres of park land, of which approximately 25 acres is usuable. Wright Dahiquist Lawson Morrison Popovich Regan MINUTES r^ni\3 wu nn_nnniiun \_unniooiUN \O ' September 15, 1986 Page 6 \£ COMMISSIONERS \J Commissioner Lawson inquired whether there is some limit to the dollar value that they will spend in acquiring the park site. David Bradstreet, Parks and Recreation Director, referred to Attachment C of the agenda packet which spells out the requirements that have been worked out by the Planning Department and the City Attorney's office regarding the dedication. The agreement is that Samrnis Properties provides, at whatever location the Commission chooses, ten acres of land. The ten acres could probably be negotiable since the basis of the agreement was to bring the Parks and Recreation Department up to speed regarding the park land in that quadrant. The General Plan review of the quadrant indicated that there was a deficiency of four acres of park land. In the discussion that ensued, Commissioner Lawson inquired regarding the access in the area and how much of usuable land will be lost as a result. Mr. Bradstreet pointed out that the access will be off of Paseo Del Norte. Doug Duncanson, Parks Superintendent, pointed out the location of the access point and stated the reasons why it will be in the particular location. He stated that approximately 60 to 90 feet of usuable space will be taken up. Mr. Bradstreet added that it will be minimal and it is all primarily beyond the slope area. In response to an inquiry by Commissioner Dahlquist on the reason that a road was necessary going down to the park and why a trail could not be placed there instead, Mr. Bradstreet stated that a park of this size would probably be required to have some sort of parking and restroom facility. There should be some egress/ingress into the park for vehicles. He added that an easement would be required to come from the paved road from Paseo Del Norte. Another alternative would be to come from the north end of the property. Commissioners Dahlquist and Regan expressed their concern that the Commission look into the piece of land as thoroughly as possible for rocks, water, etc., to avoid having the problems that Stagecoach Park is now facing. Following further discussion, it was the consensus of the Commissioners that the park land did not necessarily have to be rectangular shaped and that the ten acres of land could be taken further up east, making it 20 acres straight up the hill rather than ten acres side by side. Mr. Bradstreet indicated that this could be possible and would look into this. The Parks and Recreation Commission recommended that the ten acres of land that Sammis Properties has agreed to dedicate to the City be added to the Alta Mira site and that staff pursue the possibility of acquiring an additional ten acres in the same area which would give the City a total of 32 acres of park land. Commissioner Regan left the meeting at 9:05 p.m. Wright Dahlquist Lawson Morrison Popovich Regan yj®^ ^ $\ X X X X X X X MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION September 15, 1986 Page 7 COMMISSIONERS NEW BUSINESS A. Historial Commission Update David Bradstreet, Parks and Recreation Director, introduced Patty Cratty, Community Redevelopment Department. Patty Cratty, Community Redevelopment Department, reported that the Historical Preservation Commission has been researching the Carrillo Ranch site, and they have assessed the restoration costs to be $300,000. This amount request has been submitted on the grant application for State historical grant funds to preserve the structures at the Carrillo ranch. B. Alga Norte Park Site Commissioner Morrison commented that it will be difficult to make a decision until there is more information on the terrain out there and whether the greenery Is caused by a water problem. Commissioner Dahlquist commented that she felt that it was a very valuable experience for the Commission to go out and tour the site. C. Committee Assignments It was the consensus of the Commissioners to delay this item until all the Commissioners are present. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORT Council Member Pettine reported that the major issue to come before the Council Is the slope stabilization at Stagecoach Park. Staff was directed to provide additional information. Council has been presented with a range of alternatives, and advised that the soils expert will be testifying at the Council meeting. Commissioner Lawson pointed out that this Issue has caused a lot of concern. These are problems that end up costing the City a lot of money In an unexpected fashion. He inquired whether there was any way to remedy this where when the information is found out that the City does not bear the responsibility of the costs involved. Council Member Pettine stated that this was not done in this case. However, this serves as an experience and the City will be more careful. As the City learns more in the development of parks, they are more aware of the potential problems that can occur. David Bradstreet, Parks and Recreation Director, added that a lot of the parks that the City is working on were dedicated years ago. The City has now put in place a land assessment Impact on any land that the City will accept. The Parks and Recreation Commission will determine the standards, ratios, and service areas of the park. They will additionally tour the site to see whether it Is developable and in a good location. After that, the impact report will be processed. MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION September 15, 1986 Page 8 COMMISSIONERS \^ Council Member Pettine reported that another major Issue before the Council is the restoration of the lagoon (Hunts project). In exchange for an exemption to the moratorium, HPI was to have provided an easement that would have allowed the project to proceed. However, the majority of the Council decided that the easement was not sufficient and did not meet the requirements of the Ordinance. HPI is continuing to negotiate with a State agency to see If they can come up with something that Is acceptable. Commissioner Lawson inguired whether there was anything that the Commission could do to help in getting the lagoon restored. Council Member Pettine pointed out that the issue involves so many different State agencies. The Council is doing everything it can to advance the restoration of the lagoon. COMMITTEE REPORTS David Bradstreet, Parks and Recreation Director, informed that Mr. Beverly will be coordinating a date with the Committee members of the Golf Course Committee. Commissioner Lawson indicated that he would be willing to attend if any of the members could not be present. ADDITIONAL BUSINESS A. Second Tour of Sites Commissioner Dahlquist thanked staff for setting up today's tour and pointed out that the bringing of the maps to the site was a good idea. The tour and the maps gave a good overall perspective of the sites. She recommended that another tour be scheduled In October to see the sites that the Commission did not have time to view. Further, that the Macario Canyon and Leo Carrillo sites be included if possible. Mr. Bradstreet responded that he would set up the tour. C. Macario Opposition Letter Commissioner Popovlch reported that he received a letter from the Lakeside Gardens Association, Golden State Homeowners inviting him to speak in opposition to Proposition H - the Macario Park Facilities. He requested input from the Commissioners on this matter. (The letter was read into the record). Chairman Wright pointed out that the minutes clearly summarized the individual Commissioner's position as to the proposition which could be used by Commissioner Popovich. OTHER BUSINESS Commissioner Lawson reminded the Commissioners of the California Coastal Clean-Up scheduled for Saturday, September 20, 1986. Commissioner Dahlquist was presented with a sign with her name inprlnted on it in appreciation of the effort she put forth in advising staff of the signs needed throughout the City. MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION September 15, 1986 Page 9 COMMISSIONERS SCRIBE REPORT Commissioner Dahlquist gave the scribe report. ADJOURNMENT By proper motion, the meeting of September 15, 1986 was adjourned at 9:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, J- ELIZABETH CARABALLO Minutes Clerk EC CITY OF CARLSBAD FACILITY STANDARDS Activity *NRPA City Youth Softball/Baseball I/ 5,000 I/ 4,000 Adult Softball I/ 5,000 I/ 6,000 Youth Soccer 1/10,000 I/ 4,000 Adult Soccer 1/10,000 I/ 6,000 * Youth Football 1/20,000 1/20,000 * Adult Football 1/20,000 1/20,000 ** Tennis I/ 2,000 I/ 2,000 Lighted Baseball Fields 1/30,000 N/A *Based on 1983 National'Park & Open Space Standards and Guidelines. Note: The City of Carlsbad's standard either meets or exceeds the National Standards except for Adult Softball and Soccer. *Revised **Needs to be adopted 10/14/86 Page 1 O — » m O X «• «» IS> cor- -Hto — Ci OJ-C- NJ Ul Ui VO Ulo ,— , M •— ' .C- \^> NJ — 2. . . 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Director FROM: Deputy City Clerk DATE: September 18, 1986 R£: ParVs ft Kgr—rmrmnBgion Decision re Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad (conversion of existing tennis courts) The above item has been appealed to the City Council. Please determine when the item will go to Council and complete the form below and return it to the City Clerk's Office. According to the Municipal Code, appeals must be heard by the City Council within 30 days of the date that the appeal was filed. Please consider this when setting the date for the hearing. Thank vou. The appeal of the above matter should be scheduled for the City Council Meeting of October 14, 1986 • Signature Date ATTACHMENT C RECEIVED 3291 Highland Drive Carlsbad, California 92008 18 September 1986 Miss Althea Rautenkranz City Clerk City of Carlsbad 1200 Elm Avenue Carlsbad, CA 92008 Dear Miss Rautenkranz: I would like to formally appeal the decision of the Parks and Recreation commission to recommend to the City Council turning over the remaining two tennis courts on Monroe Street to Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad. I feel that destroying an existing facility which has recently been refurbished at a cost of several thousand dollars and which is used daily by school children and residents of the surrounding area is not in thje best interest of the com- munity . In addition, I question the actual usage of the soccer facility regarding numbers of people involved. When speaking recently with Mr. Courtney, he told me there is no youth program at this time. One is due to be instituted in January. The youths are presently playing on regular field soccer teams. He also stated there would be.adult matches on Sundays. This does not seem to be adequate usage to warrent taking two more tennis courts. Further, Mr. Al Kam stated that he does need the Monroe courts for his Parks and Recreation teaching pro- gram. By relocating his lessons to other courts in the city he is cutting down the availability of tennis fa- cilities to residents of these areas, specifically La Costa Canyon and Laguna Riviera. Thus, the impact of losing these two courts would not be localized to North Carlsbad, but would have repercussions throughout the city. It would also present a hardship on the youth who currently are involved in the tennis program as they would have to find transportation to outlying areas for their tennis lessons. I would be interested to know 1) exactly how many players are currently signed and have paid to play speed soccer with Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad and 2) the resi- dency of each player. Respectfully yours, Irene K. Straus e Copy to: Mr. David Bradstreet CITY OF CARLSBAD - AGENDA BILL AB* MTft 10/14/86 OPPT P & R IHLE REQUEST TO CONVERT MONROE TENNIS COURTS TO AN INDOOR SOCCER FACILITY DEPT. HD; CITY ATTY CITY MGR. RECOMMENDED ACTION: If Council concurs your action is to adopt Resolution No. - approvihg'use of Monroe Tennis Courts as a temporary site for an indoor soccer facility and direct staff to negotiate a four year Use Agreement with the community group "Indoor Soccer of Carlsbad" (ISOC). ITEM EXPLANATION; On October 21, 1985 the Parks and Recreation Commission authorized ISOC to construct and operate, at their expense, an indoor soccer facility on the two (2) northern Monroe Tennis Courts for a one year trial period. A trial basis was recommended in order to evaluate the recreational needs within the community for this sport. Based upon the number of participants that are enrolled in ISOC, the president of ISOC feels a need exists to expand the indoor soccer facility to include adult participation. Currently the court is less than regulation size and therefore cannot accommodate adult use. Due to court size restrictions, present day use is limited to youth only. On May 12, 1986 staff received a written proposal (Exhibit 1) requesting permission to expand the court in order to accommodate adult as well as youth participation. Stating the obvious success of Indoor Soccer, as the reason for expansion, the request also addressed the possibility of the City assuming the over all maintenance and -operation of the program or a lease agreement allowing the facility to be run as a private enterprise. Upon staff recommendation this proposal was presented at the July Parks and Recreation Commission meeting (Exhibit 2). Realizing that the soccer court expansion would eliminate the remaining two (2) tennis courts and acknowledging the concerns of both tennis and soccer enthusiast, a decision on this proposal was deferred pending further investigation. Provisions were made for the Commission's special projects committee and staff to work together to find alternative sites for tennis and possibly the indoor soccer facility using available City property. ^^ 9 This issue returned to the Parks and Recreation Commission September 15, 1986. After staff's report (Exhibit 3), and < considerable community input the Parks and Recreation Commission, =£ by a vote of four (4) to one (1), with one (1) abstention 2 and one (1) absenteeism, recommended the following: O 1. Approval of ISOC's request to expand the soccer facility to the entire Monroe site. PAGE 2 OF AB# 2. Public use of the High School courts include the hours of 12^00 p.m. to 1:00 p.m. 3. The City light the nine High School courts, using CIP or other funding; and 4. Staff negotiate a Use Agreement with ISOC that includes repayment by ISOC to the City for lighting the tennis courts with monies generated from use of the soccer facility, and that ISOC agree to return the tennis courts to their present condition upon vacating the courts. Following further discussion, the Parks and Recreation Commission unanimously voted to direct staff to continue pursuing locations that could house the indoor soccer facility on a permanent basis (Exhibit 4). An appeal to the Commission's decision was filed on September 18, 1986 by Irene K. Strauss (Exhibit 5). In accordance with established procedures, this item is brought before the City Council for review. Pending Council decision of this matter, negotiations with ISOC will commence to draft a Use Agreement. FISCAL IMPACT COST 1. Tennis Court Lighting (Basswood & Valley) $ 60,000 immediate funding from CIP, to be refunded by revenues generated from ISOC 2. Court Expans.ion N/A ISOC will absorb costs for expansion and maintenance 3. Revenues Generated by ISOC (Exhibit 1) N/A subject to negotiated agreement EXHIBITS 1. ISOC proposal - May 5, 1986 2. Parks and Recreation Commission Minutes, July 21, 1986 3.- Staff Report, 'July 11, 1986 4. Parks and Recreation Commission Minutes, September 15, 1986 5. Letter of Appeal - September 18, 1986 6. Resolution # C £. f* /_'//=• C & & L. ^ 73 & 73 P.O. BOX 2117 - CARLSBAD, CA 92003 May 5, 1986 Lynn Chase . o^/*^n» Parks & Recreation Dept. KtCEIVED MAY 1 2 1986 Carlsbad, CA 92008 --. Dear Ms. Chase: In December, 1984, I proposed that the City of Carlsbad, convert the Monroe St. Tennis Courts to a "Speed Soccer" Court. (INDOOR SOCCER) and attempted to show that it would be a valuable asset to the City. However, at that time, the Commission was unsure about the feasibility of such a facility and 'shelved' it. In November of 1985, I requested a smaller area in which to build a small demonstration court funded entirely with private funds. This was approved and the Soccer Court was erected. INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD (ISCC) purchased an Indoor Soccer System from the defunct "LAS VEGAS AMERICANS' and a portion of the court is presently set up and in use at the Monroe St. site. Unfortunatly, it is inadequate in length for adult play. however, The "INDOOR SOCCER" court was an instant success! Of course with success comes problemsl i.e.: 1. Demand for use of the Court. (Who decides, City or Club) 2. Size of the Court is too small. (Reduced team size.) 3. Supervision & maintenance of operation. We have demonstrated both the tremendous demand and the- economic feasibility of a regulation INDOOR SOCCER COURT. The facility will be in use year around and will be the envy of all of North County. Not only fullfilling a public recreation need, but making a profit while doing sol We are asking you to accept the following proposals; 1. Allow INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD (ISOC) to expand the court immediately, by removeing the center fence and extending the SOCCER COURT another ninty (90) feet into the existing tennis courts. This would eliminate the two (2) remaining tennis courts, but the very small number of players currently using these courts could be accomodated at the nine tennis courts at the corner of Valley & Basswood St. This would also leave a small area at the end of the SOCCER COURT for teams to warm up while awaiting their turn on the court. 2. The City of Carlsbad would take over the facility and reimburse I.S.O.C.'for the cost of the system,(see attached cost breakdown) or, The City would lease the land' to I.S.O.C. who would then run the facility as a private enterprise. Attached please find a schedule of estimated expenses/ and revenues, and costs involved for the City to take over and operate the facility. Thank you very much for your help and consideration in this matter. Sincerely yjoujps, EXHIBIT James A. Courtney, Prep. INDOOR SOCCER OF CARLSBAD 2 /V 7? /_'/ & /=? :=• tit G G £. & /-'//=• C & f* £. S 13 P.O. BOX 2117 - CARLSBAD, CA 92009 Lynn Chase Parks & Recreation Deptv City of Carlsbad This list of revenues & expenses are only an estimate, and would vary accordingly if operated by the City of Carlsbad, or if operated as a Private Enterprise. I.3.O.C. has invested approximately Forty Thousand Dollars ($40,000.) to date and would expend about Eight/Ten Thousand ($8/10,000.) more to expand the court to regulation size. Therefore the City could take over the court completely finished at a cost of approximately Fifty Thousand Dollars ($50,000.). It would, allow additional use of the facility if it were lighted, however this would cost approximately Twenty-five Thousand Dollars ($25,000.) more. At any rate the City would receive a very attractive (and profitable) facility on a 'turn key' basis. The projected costs and expenses to operate the facility annually are: ITEM LOW (No Lights) HIGH (With Lights) 1. Labor $35,000. $40,000. 2. Insurance 8,500. 10,000. 3. Uniforms (Shirts) 2,500. 4,200. 4. Referees 10,000. 15,600. 5. Debt (Amortized 5 yrs) 12,480. 16,200. 6. Maintenance & Utilities 2,400. 6,000. TOTALS $70,880. $92,000. •' Primary Revenue would accrue from player fees, (Forty dollars each) and would vary depending on the number of teams (games) scheduled. v;ithout lighting the facility you could schedule eight (8) games each Saturday, eight (8) games each Sunday and two games each week night, (10), for a total of twenty-six games per week. Each team would consist of ten (10) players, so each game would be twenty (20) players. Therfore; 26 Games, times 20 players, times $40., equals $20,800.00. If you play 10 week seasons, you could have five sessions at a total revenue of $104,000. If you play an 8 week, season, you could have six sessions at a total revenue of $124,800. If the facility were lighted, you could play an additional 16 games per week resulting in additional revenue of $12,800 per session. This would be an annual increase of .$64,000. or $76,800. Lighting the facility would be a good investment. Either way (lighted or unlighted) the facility is a profit maker! Annual revenue Annual expenses Profit Unlighted $104,000.00 $70,800.00 $33,200.00 Lighted 168,000.00 92,000.00 76,000.00 Even if revenue is 33% lower, the facility will break even and provide a much needed public facility. Thank you for .your, consideration ~-$=W^C<* j/ ~/J"*-^'*.t'±*'- James A. Courtney, Pres.