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Date of Meeting:
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PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
5:00 p.m.
February 23, 1987
Heritage Hall - Magee Park
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Wright called the Meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present - Chairman Wright, Vice-Chairperson Donovan,
Commissioners Dahlquist, Morrison, Lawson
and Popovich.
Absent - Commissioner Regan
Staff Present:
David Bradstreet, Director of Parks and Recreation
Keith Beverly, Management Analysis
Doug Duncanson, Parks Superintendent
Mark Steyaert, Park Planner
Ken Price, Principal Recreation Supervisor
Pam Aim, Secretary
PUBLIC OPEN FORUM:
There was no one present wishing to address the Commission
during the public open forum.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the Meeting held January 19, 1987, were
approved as presented.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Parks and Recreation approved agenda as amended.
APPOINT SCRIBE:
Commissioner Lawson was appointed Scribe for this meeting.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
B. Park-in-Lieu
Jim Elliott gave a verbal update regarding the status of
proposed changes in park-in-lieu fees. He stated one of the
areas that we need to clear up is how the park-in-lieu fees
are set. Once this is established we can determine the
estimated benchmark fair market value specifically for a park
David Bradstreet stated that the method we are
suggesting would be to take a park site in each quadrant,
designate one to be appraised and that would be the appraised
value in that particular quadrant from now on; to be reviewed
on an annual basis.
Commissioner Donovan stated that we would be starting at the
other end and making the selection first and then having it
appraised rather than having everything built and having to
find a park site.
Keith Beverly stated that what we are trying to accomplish is
to get an average estimated fair market value per one acre of
land in that particular quadrant based upon the quality of
land we have equitable within the quadrant so we can base
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our park-in-lieu fee on that land.
David Bradstreet requested Commission's approval and support
in presenting the park-in-lieu proposal to City Council.
After discussion, Commission made a motion to endorse the
new method of establishing park-in-lieu fees and to send
this endorsement to City Council.
Commission made a motion to adjourn for picture taking, and
to watch a slide presentation on the 1987 Triathlon.
C. Brown Act
This was an information item. Commission and staff went
over the recent changes of the Ralph M. Brown Act as it
relates to all City Commissions, Citizen Committees and
Senior Citizen Association.
D. Ballfield Analysis
David Bradstreet presented the revised Ballfield Analysis
made by a committee consisting of Parks and Recreation staff;
Commissioners Popovich and Lawson; and CARA President, Jim
Courtney.
The committee came up with simplified inventory and standards
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2. Standards will be reviewed on an annual basis.
3. Make all fields multi-use so all user groups can use the
fields.
4. CARA organization recognizes that the Softball field
could have an overlay of a soccer or football field on
it and still be counted as one field.
Parks and Recreation Commission made a motion to accept and
adopt the new Ballfield Analysis Standards and that these
standards be reviewed annually in November.
Jim Courtney thanked the Commission and stated that he was
pleased with the new standards.
E. Growth Management Performance Standards
Commissioner Donovan indicated that information concerning
the implementation of the Growth Management Plan is
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misleading, specifically, the development of park land
prior to residential development. Reference was made to the
argument in favor of Proposition E in the sample ballot and
voter information pamphlet for November 4, 1986, specifi-
cally the statement "NO DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE APPROVED unless
all required public facilities are provided up front."
Additional reference was made to the pamphlet available at
the Las Palmas facility entitled "Management Future Growth",
specifically the statement "The Growth Management Program
requires that the appropriate public services and facilities
must be available in an area when new development occurs".
Parks and Recreation areas are then listed among these
services.
Commissioner Popovich added that the people did not vote on
the Growth Management plan they voted on Proposition E.
Staff was directed by the Commission to look into any
discrepancies relating to Growth Management pamphlets and
report back at the next Commission meeting next month.
F. Beech Street Accessway
David Bradstreet stated that Commission directed the
Department to improve the Beech Street Accessway located
at Beech Street and Ocean Avenue. He stated that the
Department was the Project Coordinator, but we now have
a department called Municipal Projects that will be handling
all construction projects and is in the process of taking
it over.
Keith Beverly added that the Risk Manager toured the site
and stated he would like to add a chain link fence on both
sides of the accessway if it will fit into the estimated
cost of the project.
G. Joint Parks & Recreation Commission/City Council Meeting
There will be a joint meeting between all Commissions and
City Council at their regular meeting on March 17, 1987 at
6:00 p.m.
NEW BUSINESS
E. Annual Report Presentation
A Parks and Recreation Department Annual Report presentation
will be made to the City Council on March 17, 1987. Items
also to be presented by the Parks and Recreation Commission
are as follows:
A. How the Parks and Recreation Commission role applies to
the Growth Management Plan.
B. Improving Communications between Parks and Recreation
Commission and City Council.
A. Election of Parks and Recreation Commission Officers
Commissioner Popovich made a motion to nominate Vice-Chair
Donovan to be the next Chair. Motion was passed by
acclamation.
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NEW BUSINESS (continued)
Vice-Chair Donovan made a motion to nominate Commissioner
Popovich to be next Vice-Chair. Nominations were closed
and the motion passed by acclamation.
Election of Park and Recreation Commission Officers will be
done on an annual basis and will be held at the last
Commission meeting in December.
B. Playground Sculpture at Stagecoach Park
Connie Beardsley, Manager Cultural Arts Programs stated that
the Arts Commission has met and discussed various locations
for a playground sculpture and would like to run this by
Parks and Recreation Commission before presenting to City
Council.
The Arts Commission has recommended Stagecoach park as the
site for the sculpture. Connie stated there would be an open
competion to artist in counties throughout Southern
California that would participate by presenting their
sketches to a Selection Committee made up a member from the
Arts Commission, Director of Parks and Recreation or his
disignated representative, a community member, and an
artist juror. The Committee would look at those proposals
that would come in and select three artist who would then
be paid by the City to cast a three dimensional model. Those
models would then go on display to the community. The
Selection Committee would insure quality and also have
community input in determing the sculpture that would be
chosen for Stagecoach park.
Motion was made to endorse the proposal to provide a
playground sculpture at Stagecoach park. Commissioner
Morrison, was nominated to represent the Commission and the
Department as a Council Liaison to reroute the proposal back
to Commission.
C. Holiday Park Horseshoe Players Request
David Bradstreet stated that the activity user group has
requested a maintenance and storage facility 10 feet by 12
feet for the horseshoe area at Holiday Park. The user group
would build the facility, if we provide the money, which
would be less than $10,000. Staff sees no problem in this
and feels that horseshoe play is a popular and valuable
activity and there is a need for a storage facility.
Commission made a motion to accept the proposal for a
maintenance and storage facility for the horseshoe area at
Holiday Park. If the Department provides the materials and
the user group provides the labor.
D. Larwin Park Feasibility Study
David Bradstreet stated staff is investigating the develop-
ment possibilities for Larwin Community Park. Bids
were solicited from various architects to look at the 18 acre
park and to come up with a feasibility study and development
concept. Staff is recommending that we hire someone to do
a feasibility study for Larwin Park.
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Commissioner Lawson stated he was concerned that if we
are not clear on drawing the line to the consultants on
how much we can afford to put into this feasibility study,
we may end up having to use funds that could be going toward
the maintenance of another park area.
After further discussion, Commission directed staff to look
at changing the status of Larwin Park from a community park
to undevelopable park land and to consider this at the
next Parks and Recreation Commission.
Scribe Report:
Commissioner Lawson gave the Scribe report.
Adjournment:
By proper motion, the Meeting of February 23, 1987, was
adjourned at 7:43 p.m.
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STATE OF CALIFORNIA—THE RESOURCES AGENCY GEORGE DEUKMEJIAN, Governor
DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION
San Diego Coast District
2680 Carlsbad-Boulevard
Carlsbad, California 92008
(619) 729-8947
RECEIVED JIT.' 7 11986
June 9, 1986
David Bradstreet, Parks and Recreation Director
City of Carlsbad
1200 Elm Avenue
Carlsbad, California 92008
Dear Dave:
You recently requested information regarding the status of approximately 4 acres
of State Park land in the vicinity of Cannon Lake.
The General Plan for this park unit (South Carlsbad State Beach) recommends that
this property be declared surplus and be transferred to the City of Carlsbad.
You specifically asked the following questions which I will answer as completely
as I can at this time.
1. Is the land available?
By virtue of the recommendation in the General Plan the land could be made
available to the City of Carlsbad for management as a wetland/open space
park area. If the City of Carlsbad formally expresses an interest in this
property I would recommend to my Regional Office that the State include the
property in the 1987/88 surplus property bill for legislative review and
approval.
2. What is the cost of the land?
3. Is it available at no charge?
It is probable that the State would be willing to transfer ownership of the
property to the City at no charge. I am sure there would be conditions
placed on the transfer requiring that the property be retained in public
ownership for management as public park land. Until such time as a request
is made by the City to the State the cost of the property to the City, if
any, cannot be determined.
4. Are there any other fees associated with a land transfer?
Possible costs that might be incurred by the City regarding this land transfer
could be:
Property survey, if required by the State, Title Search and Recording
Fee. I do not believe any of these would be very substantial and
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David Bradstreet, June 9, 1986
some of this work may be able to completed by the existing
city staff.
If you have any questions regarding this matter please call me at 729-8947.
Sincerely,
William V. Fait, District Superintendent
San Diego Coast District
12CO ELM AVENUE H X^T H ~E_E?~ONE
CARLSBAD. CA 92008-1969 fl .iK&f k M <6'9' 433-5^7,'
dtp of Cartebab
June 5, 1986 PARKS & RECREATION DEPARTMENT '• f A/
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Bill Fait, District Superintendent
State Parks and Recreation Department
26080 Carlsbad Boulevard
Carlsbad, California 92008
Re: AVAILABILITY OF STATE PROPERTY BETWEEN CANNON ROAD AND
PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD
Dear Bill:
As per our telephone conversation, I am writing you regarding
the availability of State owned property, approximately
located between the City's Cannon Lake Park and the area known
as the Palomar Triangle.
On June 16, 1986, the Parks and Recreation Commission approved
in concept a site development plan that included both the City
property and the subject State owned property.
Prior to going ahead with the next step in the park planning
process, I need to know the following:
1. Is the land available?
2. What is the cost of the land?
3. Is it available at no charge?
4. Are there any other fees associated with a land transfer?
If the land is available, prior to making any.recommendation to
the City I will need to do an environmental assessment to see if
there are any land constraints associated with the proposed
development plan.
If you have any questions regarding the above, please call me
at 438-5571.
Sincerely,
David L. Bradstreet
Parks and Recreation Director
c: Ray Patchett, Assistant City Manager
Mark Steyaert, Park Planner
ROBERT P. KELLY
2770 SUNNYCREEK RD,
CARLSBAD, CA.
43S-3B9O
RICHARD KELLY
2320 VIA 3UBR1A
VISTA, CA.
940-9269
flARCH 2,, 1987
DAVID BRADSTREET, DlRECTOR
PARKS AND RECREATION DEFT.
CITY OF CARLSBAD
120O ELM AVE,,
CARLSBAD, CA. 92008
DEAR MR. BRADSTREET:
IN OUR LETTER TO YOU OF FEB. 19, 1987 WE SAID THAT WE WERE
APPLY ING TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD FOR SLOPE EASEMENTS. AFTER
FURTHER CONSULTATION WITH BOB WOJICK OF THE CITY;'S ENGINEER ING
DEFT. WE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT WE REALLY DON'T NEED SLOPE
EASEMENTS. WHAT WE NEED IS SIMPLY A LETTER OF PERMISSION TO
GRADE ON CITY PROPERTY.
WE STILL NEED THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPT.'S APPROVAL OF OUR
PROJECT AND HOPE TO MEET WITH YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO DISCUSS
THIS MATTER IN MORE DETAIL.
SINCERELY,
RICHARD C. KELtY
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:EB. 19. 19S7
DAVID BRADSTREET, DIRECTOR
PARKS AND RECREATION DEFT.
CITY OF CARLSBAD
12CO ELM AVE.
CARLSBAD, CA. 920O8
DEAR MR. BRADSTREET;;
WE ARE THE OWNERS OF A ONE HALF ACRE PARCEL OF LAND WHICH IS
BORDERED ON ITS NORTH AND WEST SIDES BY MACAR10 PARK. (PLEASE
REFER TO OUR ATTACHED MAP.)
WE ARE APPLYING FOR SLOPE EASEMENTS FROM THE CITY OF CARLSBAD,
AND BOB WOJCIK OF 'THE CITY'S ENGINEERING DEPT. HAS ADVISED US
THAT WE SHOULD FIRST OBTAIN A LETTER OF APPROVAL FOR THE SLOPE
EASEMENTS FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPi „
THE SLOPES CREATED ON CITY PROPERTY WILL BE FULLY LANDSCAPED AND
DESIGNED TO BLEND WITH THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY.
WE WISH TO COOPERATE WITH YOU IN DESIGNING I HIS SLOPE TO ENHANCE
THE VISUAL IMPACT ON MACAR10 PARK. WITH A VIEW TOWARD THAT GOAL,
WE REQUEST AN EARLY MEETING WITH YOU TO DISCUSS THIS PROJECT
PRIOR TO THE MARCH 16 HEARING.
WE REQUEST THAT THIS MATTER BE HEARD AT THE PARKS & RECREATION
MEETING OF MARCH 16, 1987.
SINCERELY.
ROBERT P. KELi^Y
RICHARD C. KEL
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