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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987-11-24; Parks & Recreation Commission; Minutes (3)MINUTES Meeting of: CITY COUNCIL (Regular Meeting) Date of Meeting: November 2*, 1987 Time of Meeting: 6:00 p.m. Place of Meeting: City Councii Chambers COUNCIL MEMBERS CALL TO ORDER; Mayor Lewis caJled the Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. ROLL CALL was taken by the City Clerk, as follows: Present: Councii Members Lewis, Kulchin, Pettine, Mamaux and Larson. Absent: None. APPROVAL OF MINUTES; (one motion) Minutes of the Regular Meeting held November 3, 1987, were approved as amended. Minutes of the Regular Meeting held November 10, 1987, were approved as presented. Minutes of the Adjourned Meeting held November 12, 1987, were approved as presented. PRESENTATIONS; Mayor Lewis read a Proclamation declaring the week of November 30 through December 5, 1987, to be WINTER STORM PREPAREDNESS WEEK. The Proclamation was accepted by Olm West. Batallion Chief. Carlsbad Fire Department. Mayor Lewis read a Proclamation endorsing the Creater Los Angeles Chapter National Safety Council's program of drunk driver awareness in uraing the public to drive safely and defensively during the Holiday Season. CONSENT CALENDAR; Council affirmed the action of the Consent Calendar, as follows: WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING: Council waived the reading of the text of all Ordinances and Resolutions at this Meeting. 1. AB *922» - ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT DEED FOR WATER MAIM PURPOSES FROM SIERRA LAND CROUPl Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9300, accepting a grant deed for a water main easement located off Las Palmas Drive. 2. AB J8330 -Supplement No. 2 - FINAL MAP - VISTA DE VAELt - CT -337 Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9301. accepting a grant deed for sewer purposes off Hosp Way. Lewis Kulchin Pettine Mamaux Larson Lewis Kulchin Pettine Mamaux Larson MINUTES November 24, 1987 Page 2 COUNCIL MEMBERS CONSENT CALENDARt (continued) Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9302, accepting a grant deed for sewer purposes off Hosp Way. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9303, accepting a grant deed for waterline purposes off Calle Arroyo. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9304, accepting a grant deed for drainage purposes south of Hosp Way and north of Wlntengreen Street. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9305. accepting a grant deed for public road and utility purposes for a portion of Wlntergreen Street. Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9306. for the acceptance of 1 ' wide blocker strip, as future street on Wlntergreen Street. PUBLIC COMMENT 8 There were no requests to address Council. PUBLIC HEARINGS! I 3. AB 19122 - Suplement No. 1 - PARK FEES FOR THEpp TIELOCAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT PUN FOR ZONE T. Oave Bradstreet, Director of Parks k Recreation, gave the staff report as contained In the Agenda Bill, using transparencies of the Information Included In the packet. Phil Carter explained the committee had two Independent surveys completed on what the people In that area would want to have as far as recreation, and In analyzing those surveys, It was determined a fitness center would be the proper recreational facility. They felt a golf course was not high on the list of priorities for those working In Zone 5. In answer to Council query, Nr. Bradstreet stated the Parks * Recreation Commission felt the developers should take care of the maintenance of the facility, whether It was on their property or city-owned. Mr. Bradstreet stated the swimming pool recommended was between a 50 meter and a lap pool. Council Member Mamaux commented the peak times were an important factor to be considered in the planning of any facility. Staff stated they had calculated the figures on those expected to use such facilities and the times they would use them, and felt the size was adequate. There are always problems at peak times in any facility. Mr. Carter stated If Council Instructed them to negotiate with the developers on the financing, they would also discuss the peak times. MINUTES November 24, 1987 Page 3 COUNCIL MEMBERS PUBLIC HEARINGS; (Continued) Mr. Bradstreet referred to an artist's drawing of Macario Canyon and stated the Master Plan revision Is pending, and there are many unanswered questions about the possibility of building a qolf course there. Mayor Lewis commented the average worker would only be able to use recreational facilities during the evening hours and weekends. He felt a ma.tor facility was needed to accommodate employees and industrial leagues. Mayor Lewis also felt the circulation and access should be considered, and questioned whether the Cannon to 1-5 connection was discussed.. Phil Carter answered that if the Council adopted both recommendations, (the 40 cents per square foot on all development permits In Zone 5, and directing staff to negotiate with the developers In that zone to construct the facilities up front), the City Manager would determine who would serve on the negotiating team. That team would consider the Council's comments. Mayor Lewis stated peak flow should be considered; building of Cannon Road; how many people participate in leagues and how much night usage there would be. Staff indicated if the fee was not sufficient, they could return later with a recommendation to increase that fee. Mayor Lewis opened the public hearing at 6s48 p.m., and issued the invitation to speak. Paul Schwartz, representing the Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce, stated the Chamber and the Chamber's Economic Enhancement Council commended Council on proposing this fee. He stated the greatest concern was for the impact on potential development In the community, as there Is a great deal of competition in attracting companies Into the area. Mr. Schwartz stated a fitness center and related services should be considered rather than a golf course, He suggested appropriate time be spent on alternatives and Mellow-Roos or other mitigations should be considered rather than merely imposing a fee. James Smith, £725 Russelia Court, representing Carlsbad Golf Association, read a prepared statement to Council requesting consideration of a golf course for the employees In Zone 5. He suggested this could be partially financed with an additional 5-cent fee. Mr. Smith stated the need for a golf course could be found. and the Association felt its recommendation should be considered. He added the Association felt the most use of any facility would be on weekends and evenings. MINUTES November 24, 1987 Page 4 COUNCIL MEMBERS PUBLIC HEARINGS; (Continued) Jack Schumaker, 7217 San Hiquel, Vice President of the Chamber and President of Homeowners Association at Lakeshore Gardens, spoke in favor of a noIf course, stating affirmative action was needed now. Mario Monroy, 3610 Carlsbad Boulevard, expressed concern about the discussion to use Macario Canyon. He stated that Macario Is a park proposed to serve park needs of all quadrants of the City, and the use for Zone 5 would impact all other zones. Dave Bradstreet explained that of the 500 acres In Macario Canyon, 100 were developable. Each quadrant in the City had been credited with 25 of those acres. Mr. Carter added that repercussions of building in Macario Canyon wouldd be studied. To* Worth, 1435 Forest Avenue, stated Increasing fees for development could possibly discourage economic growth in the industrial corridor. He felt the proposed fee was too high and added that some of the industries already nave recreational facilities of their own. Mr. Worth also stated the Olympic Resort in that area offers corporate discounts. He suggested the developers be encouraged to provide the facilities up front. 3im Shaw, 3729 Garfleld, addressed Council stating It was easy to assess fees fro* the standpoint of the City, but if there is no development—there would be no fees. It takes companies and buildings to generate fees, and when those companies consider developing in the City, the cost becomes prohibitive. Mr. Shaw reiterated the other fees collected by the City and stated developers can 170 to neighboring cities and save 50 percent on fees. Mark Hughes, 2111 Palomar Airport Road, represented the developers in the meetings with staff. He asked Council to follow the recommendations of the Parks * Recreation Commission and allow the committee to Investigate alternatives to the fee, as well as giving credence to the economic arguments. He asked that the Resolution be worded to include the interim concept of the fee as well as the indication that staff would be directed to pursue the alternative proposal of the development community. Ron ROUSA, Attorney, representing property owners Koll Company, Center Development, Bedford and TAG Investments, spoke In opposition to the proposed fee, stating due process was not allowed all of the property owners In the area and no relationship between the impact of the proposed development and the exacting of such a fee had been shown. He stated this was discriminatory against Zone 5 as it does not apply to other non-residential uses throughout the City. MINUTES November 1987 Page 5 COUNCIL MEMBERS PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued) Mr. Rouse further stated the fee is in violation and inconsistent with the Growth Management Ordinance. He stated the Zone Pian must be in oonformance with the City-wide plan and there is no such requirement in the City-wide plan. Mr. Rouse requested the fee be on an.interim basis with negotiations and discussions to be held to come up with a reasonable and focused program to achieve the level of City needs. He stated his willingness to work with the City for a compromise. In response to Council request, City Attorney Vincent Biondo gave explanations for the Issues raised by Mr. Rouse. Mike Dunigan, 3309 Piragua, Executive at Koll Company, spoke in favor of a facility in lieu of a fee concept and stated if they put in a small complex they felt they should be given some type of in-lieu credit. Mr. Ouniqan said the key element was to get facilities in place as soon as possible, and to do that it would be easier to use parkland; i.e., County land or Ma carlo Canyon. Dennis Meehan, 3961 Gloria Lane, congratulated all those involved in working on this and stated this was the way to work out these problems. He added the solution was to set fair fees and deliver good services. Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the public hearing was closed at 7:42 p.m. Council Member Kulchln stated there should be a larger gymnasium and that the construction of Faraday to Cannon to 1-5 is needed. She also questioned whether the 40 cent fee would be sufficient and requested that negotiators also look at the possibility of an extra 5 cent charge for a golf course. Council Member Larson concurred with the comments of Council Member Kulchln. Additionally, he stated the City should be selfish about Macario and defend the acreage, which belongs to all park quadrants. Council Member Mamaux stated staff should be encouraged to negotiate on the basis that the facilities Include the golf course; and the community center be a pro golf centerpiece, gymnasium, etc. He also stated additional items for consideration should be Mello-Roos financing} possible need for a construction agreement; and costs of constructing for peak flow. He also expressed reluctance to use Macario land. Council Member Pet tine stated staff has shown the relationship between the need and the fee, and staff should make sure the facility satisfies the need of the Industrial belt. MINUTES \ November 24, 1987 Page 6 COUNCIL MEMBERS PUBLIC HEARINGS; (Continued) Mayor Lewis referenced his previous comments and added that the negotiating committee should consider fairness in that the facility should be available to all the employees in the Industrial area and not just the executives. In discussing whether the fee was permanent or an interim fee, Mr. Carter stated it would be permanent unless staff returned with an alternative. In answer to Council query regarding Ma carlo Canyon, Oave Bradstreet suggested waiting until it Is known how the County property is to be utilized before making any recommendations to revise, the Master Plan for Ma carlo Canyon. Council directed staff to enter negotiations with the developers in Zone 5 for the up front construction of recreational facilities In accordance with Council comments; and adopted the following Resolution: RESOLUTION NO. 9307, AUTHORIZING THE COLLECTION OF A LOCAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT FEE FOR PARK FACILITIES IN THE AREA DEFINED AS LOCAL FACILITY MANAGEMENT ZONE 5. RECESS: Mayor Lewis declared a recess at 7:59 p.m., and Council re-convened at 9:11 p.*., with all Members present. PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued) 4. AB J651» - Supplement i2 - NORTH BEACH PLANNING AND TRAFFIC STUDY DRAFT REPORT. Mike Holzmiller, Planning Director, gave the staff report as contained in the Agenda Bill, including a slide presentation narrated by Nancy Rollman, highlighting the recommendations in the study. Mayor Lewis questioned the recommendation to not put Washington Street through, and Paul Zuckor answered it was better not to have more traffic in that area if the plan was to keep the residential character. Opening up Washington Street would allow more traffic. Mike Holzmiller stated at the Planning Commission meeting some residents wanted Washington Street put through, as they need more access. He stated there are some buildings in the right-of-way, and the City previously gave up some rights-of-way. In some places, the street would be entirely in the railroad right-of- way, and it was questionable whether it could be accomplished. It was felt the Intersections design could present problems and only four or five thousand cars would use it as a local or by-pass street. Mayor Lewis opened the public hearing at 9:04 p.m., and issued the invitation to speak. Lewis Kulchln Pettine Hamaux Larson They're flipping out at disc-golf tourney in park By Pat Flynn Staff Writer St. Andrews it ain't. The unmanicured three-acre disc-golf course at the eastern edge of Balboa Park is not likely to be confused with golfs most sacred links in Scotland. And the flying-disc version of golf bears only the vaguest resem- blance to its ancient parent. But the approximately 75 com- petitors in yesterday's course championship tournament were no less intent on keeping their shots true and their scores low than the pros and ams who show up on na- tional television every week. "Competition is competition. It doesn't matter whether you're playing for thousands of dollars or ISO," said Snapper Pierson, 37, who is sort of the Arnold Palmer of disc golf in San Diego. In disc golf, players make a cir- cuit of 18 "holes," trying to deposit their plastic discs in wire baskets with the fewest number of throws. These duffers use discs that are smaller, thinner and heavier than the Frisbees widely used for casual recreation. Players hurl the 21- centimeter plates from concrete slab "tees." The holes, mostly par-3, are re- configured regularly, but for yes- terday's tournament they ranged from 156 feet in length to 425 feet Instead of a cup on a green, disc- golfers shoot for a metal basket 24 inches in diameter on a pole about three feet above the ground. A web of chains, about two feet long, is suspended above each basket to stop the flight of a disc and allow it to drop into the basket Disc-golfer Pierson to not only the premier player locally, but also the man who operates, mows and clean up the course He has a five- year lease with the city to operate the concession in exchange for a percentage of what he makes rent- 'Competition is competition. It doesn't matter whether you're playing for thousands of dollars or $50,'said Snapper Pierson, who is sort of the Arnold Palmer of disc golf in San Diego. ing discs and selling soft drinks, T- shirts and caps from a makeshift pro shop attached to the back of a public restroom. "This is an all-volunteer effort," Pierson said. "The city doesn't do a thing for us." Devotees of the unconventional sport contribute money to main- tain and improve the course. Pier- son pointed to benches, steps and bridges that have been installed by the disc duffers. Participants are devoted to their sport "I come up here and meet him at lunchtime every day," said Phyllis Sullivan, 40, pointing to her hus- band, Gary. "I used to play a lot of regular golf," said Gary Sullivan, 44. "When they jumped the price to $15 to play a round of golf, that's when. I switched to disc. It's free, so the price is right I'm kind of a ptcunious individual And this is one sport Phyllis can do well, so we come and play every day." Greg Barnicoat 25, is one of the area's better players, but a morn- ing commitment forced him* to miss the course championship tournament that continues today. "I had my comprehensive exam for my master's degree in boBtoess administration," Barnicoat said after arriving to watch the after- noon rounds. "It was tossup so I flipped a coin. It came up that I should go to the test" Barnicoat said that be and other Tbe San Diego Union/Tammy Ljnngblad Snapper Pierson sails a disc toward the basket during the seventh annual disc-golf tournament competition yester- day at Morley Field. Pierson was director of the event. serious players would like to see the sport become more organized, but others say they like the game because of its informality. Tim Larrick and three friends, all first-time disc-golfers, were playing the course even as the to* around them. "It's amazing how much more polite people are on this course than they are on real golf courses," Larrick said. Pierson estimated that between 250i and 1,000 people play tft» course on weekend days. Tbe Bal- boa Park course is the only 18-hole layout in the oxini& Pierson saioV there is a sevohole course in National City and a course is planned for Oceanside. The sport, governed by the na- tionwide Professional Disc Golf Association, is most popular in the Midwest Pierson said. Competitors in this weekend's tournament are playing to earn spots on San Diego's side in the Southwestern Team Disc 'Golf Tournament Invitational, which wfll be held in the park in two weeks. The San Diegans will com- pete against clubs from La Mirada, Oak Grove, Huntington Beach, Northern California and a com- bined Arizona-Nevada squad. December 10, 1987 TO: DAVID BRADSTREET, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR FROM: KEITH BEVERLY, MANAGEMENT MONTHLY REPORT FOR NOVEMBER ADMINISTRATION; The Zone 5 park mitigation fee went before Council on November 17, 1987. Council endorsed a recommendation to assess a 40£ per sq ft fee in order to provide recreation facilities for the industrial base population within Zone 5. This endeavor should be considered to be a milestone in the growth and development of the City of Carlsbad and its Parks and Recreation Department. Negotiations to provide up front development of the facilities was also endorsed by Council; however, the 40£ fee would be interim only if a fair and equitable agreement can be reached between the City and the industrial development community. The fee for industrial development is projected to generate 7.2 million dollars by build-out. PARKS DIVISION; Christmas decorations have been displayed throughout the downtown village and the community has received a new Christmas tree at Rotary Park. The new tree replaces the Charlie Brown Christmas tree which did not adapt well in this environment. The Christmas tree lighting ceremony held on December 6 was a big success again this year with the master of ceremonies being none other than our own David Bradstreet. Landscape inspection at Calavera Hills Parks, Phase I, was held recently. The establishment period has been acknowledged and the maintenance period is expected to last an additional sixty (60) days. RECREATION; The Daytrippers program had 40 participants enjoy a lobster dinner at Puerto Nuevo Restaurant South of the Border Saturday, November 7. 38 people tried their luck in Las Vegas on an overnight excursion on November 29 and 30. While nobody made their fortune, several people did hit some pretty big payoffs. The Kris Kringle Craft Faire held at Stagecoach Community Park on Saturday, November 14 was a big hit with community residents. 24 vendors displayed their wares and another faire is being planned for next year. A revenue review of Stagecoach Community Park during the month of November netted approximately $20,000. Revenue was derived from such activities as facility rentals, park rentals and instructional classes. Dec 10, 1987 David Bradstreet Page 2 SENIOR CITIZENS; In coordination with the Senior Citizen Program, Gerico's Restaurant is hosting a free senior holiday dinner for persons 55 years of age and over. The event will be held on Sunday, December 13 from 2-8 p.m. at 850 Tamarack Avenue. The Senior Commission is hosting a holiday dinner on December 18 to acknowledge and extend their appreciation to the many volunteers that assist in the senior citizen programs. KB: It