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Meeting of: CITY COUNCIL (Regular Meeting)
Date of Meeting: November 2<», 1987
Time of Meeting: 6:00 p.m.
Place of Meetlno; City Council Chambers COUNCIL
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CALL TO ORDF.R:
Mayor Lewis called the Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL was taken by the City Clerk, as follows:
Present: Council Members Lewis, Kulchin, Pettine,
Mamaux and Larson.
Absent: None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES; (one motion)
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held November 3, 1987,
were approved as amended.
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held November 10, 1987,
were approved as presented.
Minutes of the Adjourned Meeting held November 12,
1987, were approved as presented.
PRESENTATIONS;
Mayor Lewis read a Proclamation declaring the week of
November 30 through December 5, 1987, to be WINTER
STORM PREPAREDNESS WEEK. The Proclamation was accepted
by 3im West. Batallion Chief, Carlsbad Fire Department.
Mayor Lewis read a Proclamation endorsing the Greater
Los Angeles Chapter National Safety Council's program
of drunk driver awareness in urging the public to drive
safely and defensively during the Holiday Season.
CONSENT CALENDAR;
Council affirmed the action of the Consent Calendar,
as follows:
WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING:
Council waived the reading of the text of all
Ordinances and Resolutions at this Meeting
(81) 1. AB *922» - ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT DEED FOR WATER MAIN
PURPOSES FROM SIERRA LAND GROUP.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9300, accepting a
grant deed for a water main easement located off
Las Palmas Drive.
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2. AB J6330 - Supplement No. 2 - FINAL MAP - VISTA DE
LA VALLE - CT 8*-33.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9301, accepting a
grant deed for sewer purposes off Hosp Way.
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CONSENT CALENDAR; (continued)
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9302, accepting a
grant deed for sewer purposes off Hosp Way.
Council adopted RESOLUflON NO. 9303, accepting a
grant deed for waterline purposes off Calle Arroyo.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 930», accepting a
grant deed for drainage purposes south of Hosp Way
and north of Wlntergreen Street.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9305. accepting a
grant deed for public road and utility purposes for
a portion of Wintergreen Street.
Council adopted RESOLUTION NO. 9306, for the
acceptance of 1' wide blocker strip, as future
street on Wintergreen Street.
PUBLIC COMMENT;
There were no requests to address Council.
PUBLIC HEARINGS;
3. AB 19122 - Supplement No. 1 - PARK FEES FOR THE
LOCAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR ZONE 5.
Oave Bradstreet, Director of Parks ft Recreation, gave
the staff report as contained in the Agenda Bill, using
transparencies of the information included in the
packet.
Phil Carter explained the committee had two independent
surveys completed on what the people in that area would
want to have as far as recreation, and in analyzing
those surveys, it was determined a fitness center would
be the proper recreational facility. They felt a golf
course was not high on the -list of priorities for those
working in Zone 5.
In answer to Council query, Mr. Bradstreet stated the
Parks & Recreation Commission felt the developers
should take care of the maintenance of the facility,
whether it was on their property or city-owned.
Mr. Bradstreet stated the swimming pool recommended was
between a 50 meter and a lap pool.
Council,Member Mamaux commented the peak times were an
important factor to be considered in the planning of
any facility. Staff stated they had calculated the
figures on those expected to use such facilities and
the times they would use them, and felt' the size was
adequate. There are always problems at peak times in
any facility. Mr. Carter stated if Council instructed
them to negotiate with the developers on the financing,
they would also discuss the peak times.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
Mr. Bradstreet referred to an artist's drawing of
Macario Canyon and stated the Master Plan revision ».s
pending, and there are many unanswered questions about
the possibility of building a aolf course there.
Mayor Lewis commented the average worker would only be
able to use recreational facilities during the evening
hours and weekends. He felt a ma,|or facility was
needed to accommodate employees and Industrial leagues.
Mayor Lewis also felt the circulation and access should
be considered, and questioned whether the Cannon to 1-5
connection was discussed.
Phil Carter answered that if the Council adopted both
recommendations, (the W) cents per square foot on all
development permits in Zone 5, and directing staff to
negotiate with the developers in that zone to construct
the facilities up front), the City Manager would
determine who would serve on the negotiating team. That
team would consider the Council's comments.
Mayor Lewis stated peak flow should be considered;
building of Cannon Road; how many people participate in
leagues and how much night usage there would be.
Staff indicated If the fee was not sufficient, they
could return later with a recommendation to Increase
that fee.
Mayor Lewis opened the public hearing at 6:48 p.m., and
issued the invitation to speak.
Paul Schwartz, representing the Carlsbad Chamber of
Commerce, stated the Chamber and the Chamber's
Economic Enhancement Council commended Council on
proposing this fee. He stated the greatest concern was
for the Impact on potential development in the
community, as there is a great deal of competition in
attracting companies into the area.
Mr. Schwartz stated a fitness center and related
services should be considered rather than a golf course.
He suggested appropriate time be spent on alternatives
and Mellow-Roos or other mitigations should be
considered rather than merely imposing a fee.
3ames Smith, 6725 Russelia Court, representing Carlsbad
Golf Association, read a prepared statement to Council
requesting consideration of a golf course for the
employees in Zone 5. He suggested this could be
partially financed with an additional 5-cent fee. Mr.
Smith stated the need for a golf course could be found
and the Association felt its recommendation should be
considered. He added the Association felt the most use
of any facility would be on weekends and evenings.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
3ack Schumaker, 7217 San Miguel, Vice President of the
Chamber and President of Homeowners Association at
Lakeshore Gardens, spoke In favor of a oolf course,
stating affirmative action was needed now.
Mario Monroy. 3610 Carlsbad Boulevard, expressed
concern about the discussion to use Macarlo Canyon. He
stated that Macario Is a park proposed to serve park
needs of all guarirants of the City, and the use for
Zone 5 would impact all other zones.
Dave Bradstreet explained that of the 500 acres In
Macario Canyon, 100 were developable. Each quadrant in
the City had been credited with 25 of those acres. Mr.
Carter added that repercussions of building in Macario
Canyon wouldd be studied.
Tom Worth, 1^35 Forest Avenue, stated increasing fees
for development could possibly discourage economic
growth in the industrial corridor. He felt the
proposed fee was too high and added that some of the
industries already have recreational facilities of their
own. Mr. Worth also stated the Olympic Resort in that
area offers corporate discounts. He suggested the
developers be encouraged to provide the facilities up
front.
3lm Shaw, 3729 Garfield, addressed Council stating it
was easy to assess fees from the standpoint of the
City, but if there is no developmentāthere would be no
fees. It takes companies and buildings to generate
fees, and when those companies consider
developing in the City, the cost becomes prohibitive.
Mr. Shaw reiterated the other fees collected by the
City and stated developers' can go to neighboring
cities and save 50 percent on fees.
Mark Hughes, 2111 Palomar Airport Road, represented the
developers in the meetings with staff. He asked
Council to follow the recommendations of the Parks &
Recreation Commission and allow the committee to
investigate alternatives to the fee, as well as giving
credence to the economic arguments. He asked that the
Resolution be worded to Include the Interim concept of
the fee as well as the indication that staff would be
directed to pursue the alternative proposal of the
development community.
Ron Rouse, Attorney, representing property owners Koll
Company, Center Development, Bedford and T 4 G
Investments, spoke in opposition to the proposed fee,
stating due process was not allowed all of the property
owners in the area and no relationship between the
impact of the proposed development and the exacting of
such a fee had been shown-. He stated this was
discriminatory against Zone 5 as it does not apply to
other non-residential uses throughout the City.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
Mr. Rouse further stated the fee is in violation and
inconsistent with the Growth Management Ordinance.
He stated the Zone Plan must be in conformant* with the
City-wide plan and there is no such requirement in the
City-wide plan.
Mr. Rouse requested the fee be on an interim basis with
negotiations and discussions to be held to come up with
a reasonable and focused program to achieve the level
of City needs. He stated his willingness to work with
the City for a compromise.
In response to Council request, City Attorney Vincent
Biondo gave explanations for the issues raised by Mr.
Rouse.
Mike Dunigan, 3309 Piragua, Executive at Koll Company,
spoke in favor of a facility in lieu of a fee concept
and stated if they put in a small complex they felt
they should be given some type of in-lieu credit.
Mr. Duniqan said the key element was to get facilities
In place as soon as possible, and to do that it would
be easier to use parkland; i.e., County land or Macarlo
Canyon.
Dennis Meehan, 3981 Gloria Lane, congratulated all
those involved in working on this and stated this was
the way to work out these problems. He added the
solution was to set fair fees and deliver good
services.
Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the
public hearing was closed at 7:42 p.rn*
Council Member Kulchin stated there should be a larger
gymnasium and that the construction of Faraday to
Cannon to 1-5 is needed. She also questioned whether
the 40 cent fee would be sufficient and requested that
negotiators also look at the possibility of an extra 5
cent charge for a golf course.
Council Member Larson concurred with the comments of
Council Member Kulchin. Additionally, he stated the
City should be selfish about Ma carlo and defend the
acreage, which belongs to all park quadrants.
Council Member Mamaux stated staff should be encouraged
to negotiate on the basis that the facilities include
the golf course; and the community center be a pro golf
centerpiece, gymnasium, etc. He also stated additional
items for consideration should be Mello-Roos financing;
possible need for a construction agreement; and costs
of constructing for peak flow. He also expressed
reluctance to use Ma carlo land.
Council Member Pettine stated staff has shown the
relationship between the need and the fee, and staff
should make sure the facility satisfies the need of the
industrial belt.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS; (Continued)
Mayor Lewis referenced his previous comments and added
that the negotiating committee should consider fairness
in that the facility should be available to all the
employees in the industrial area and not Just the
executives.
In discussing whether the fee was permanent or an
interim fee, Mr. Carter stated it would be permanent
unless staff returned with an alternative.
In answer to Council query regarding Ma carlo Canyon,
Oave Bradstreet suggested waiting until it is known how
the County property is to be utilized before making any
recommendations to revise the Master Plan for Macario
Canyon.
Council directed staff to enter negotiations with the
developers in Zone 5 for the up front construction of
recreational facilities in accordance with Council
comments; and adopted the following Resolution:
RESOLUTION NO. 9307, AUTHORIZING THE COLLECTION OF A
LOCAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT FEE FOR PARK FACILITIES IN
THE AREA DEFINED AS LOCAL FACILITY MANAGEMENT ZONE 5.
RECESS;
Mayor Lewis declared a recess at 7:59 p.m., and Council
re-convened at 8:11 p.m., with all Members present.
PUBLIC HEARINGS; (Continued)
4. AB *85H - Supplement f2 - NORTH BEACH PLANNING AND
TRAFFIC STUDY DRAFT REPORT.
Mike Holzmiller, Planning Director, gave the staff
report as contained in the Agenda Bill, Including a
slide presentation narrated by Nancy Rollman,
highlighting the recommendations in the study.
Mayor Lewis questioned the recommendation to not put
Washington Street through, and Paul Zuckor answered it
was better not to have more traffic in that area If the
plan was to keep the residential character. Opening up
Washington Street would allow more traffic.
Mike Holzmiller stated at the Planning Commission
meeting some residents wanted Washington Street put
through, as they need more access. He stated there are
some buildings in the right-of-way, and the City
previously gave up some rights-of-way. In some places,
the street would be entirely in the railroad right-of-
way, and it was questionable whether It could be
accomplished. It was felt the intersections design
could present problems and only four or five thousand
cars would use it as a local or by-pass street.
Mayor Lewis opened the public hearing at 9:06 p.m., and
issued the Invitation to speak.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Continued)
Ann Mauch, Garfield Street, spoke in opposition to the
adoption of the recommendations, as she felt they
undermined the goals of the beach area. The RDM zone
would lower the setback and allow higher density. Ms.
Mauch stated the number of onslte parking spaces was
decreased and credit was being allowed for offsite
parking In certain areas. She stated she wanted to
register her protest for the record and challenged the
validity of the report.
Mario Monroy, 3610 Carlsbad Boulevard, stated the
railroad right-of-way is a plight and there is no
drainage. He felt the right-of-way could be used for
pedestrian walks and bike lanes and would improve the
old part of Carlsbad.
Mr. Monroy stated the traffic law is not enforced on'
Carlsbad Boulevard because more police are needed in
the area.
Mr. Monroy stated that most people do not want
Washington on the west side of the railroad, as this
would only bring more traffic and parking problems.
Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the
public hearing was closed at 9:20 p.m.
Council concurred with the Planning Commission's
recommendation to puprsue R-1 Zoning on the properties
designated as Areas 1 through 5.
Council concurred with the Planning Commission's
recommendation to put Washington Street through.
Council concurred with the Planning Commission
recommendation to extend Chestnut Avenue across the
railroad tracks, but directed that no action be taken
at this time.
Council concurred with the Planning Commission
recommendation to keep the four painted crosswalks at
Pine, Cherry, Maple and Juniper on Carlsbad Boulevard,
but relocate as necessary to be opposite beach access
points. In the future, consideration should be given
to installing another traffic signal.
Council adopted the North Beach Planning and Traffic
Study as amended by the Planning Commission and
directed staff to return to City Council with a work
program for implementation.
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DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS;
(86) 5. AB J9226 - CITIZEN REQUEST - ELM AVENUE.
This item was continued.
(37)6. AB 09227 - TRAVEL REQUEST.
Council authorized Council Member Kulchin to attend the
California Pollution Control Financing Authority
meeting in Sacramento, December 2, 1987, to representthe City to oppose the request of North County Resource
Recovery Associates for an extension of the deadline
for release of funds for the San Marcos Trash-to-EnergyPlant.
COUNCIL REPORTS;
SANDAG
Council Member Mamaux reported on a SANDAG report on
growth in the San Diego area. A task force is to study
the regional Issues in conjunction with Proposition A
and study impact fees.
Council Member Mamaux reported the recycling program
recently enacted did not Include wine cooler containers
and local agencies may be asked to take action.
Carlsbad Economic Enhancement Council
Council Member Mamaux reported on a meeting held this
morning.
3AC
Council Member Mamaux told of the Open House held last
Saturday for the nearby residents.
North County Mayors and Managers Meeting
Council Member Kulchin reported on a recent meeting.
Beach Erosion
Council Member Kulchin stated the January Beach Meeting
will consider the status of AB £39.
ADJOURNMENT;
By proper motion, the Meeting of November 2*, 1987, was
adjourned at 9:50 p.m., to Tuesday, December 1, 1987,
at 5:30 p.m., at the Safety Center, for a Closed
Session to discuss the trash-to-energy plant pending
litigation and to discuss instituting related
litigation. A workshop session on goals and objectives
will follow the Closed Session.
Respectfully submitted,
ALETHA L. RAUTENKRANZ
City Clerk
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
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