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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-10-17; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMINUTES Meeting of: Date of Meeting: Time of Meeting; Place of Meeting: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION October 17, 1988 5,'00 p»m. Stagecoach Park Community Center COMMISSIONERS CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Lawson called the Meeting to order at 5!07 p.m. ROLL CALL Present; Chairman Lawson, Commissioners Castner, Dahlquist, Knox, Morrison, Strayer and Welshons. Absent: None. Staff Present: Dave Bradstreet, Director, Parks and Recreation Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst Ken Price, Principal Recreation Supervisor Doug Duncanson, Parks Superintendent APPROVAL OF MINUTES; Minutes of the Regular Meeting held September 19, 1988, were approved as presented. The Scribe Report and Mayor's Comments of September 28, 1988, were approved by the same motion. APPOINT SCRIBE; Commissioner Castner was appointed Scribe for this meeting. PUBLIC OPEN FORUM; There were no requests to address the Commission. PRESENTATIONS; There were no presentations. APPROVAL OF AGENDA; Parks and Recreation Commission accepted the Agenda as presented. CONSENT CALENDAR; Dave Bradstreet asked that Items 2 and 3 be removed from the Consent Calendar for discussion. Parks and Recreation Commission affirmed the action of the Consent Calendar, with the exception of Items 2 and 3, as follows: 0004 Lawson Castner Dahlquist Knox Morrison Strayer Welshons Lawson Castner Dahlquist Knox Morrison Strayer Welshons Lawson Castner Dahlquist Knox Morrison Strayer Welshons MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION October 17 1988 Paae 2 COMMISSIONERS WAIVER OF AGENDA TEXT READING: Parks and Recreation Commission waived the reading of the text of Aqenda items at this meeting 1- AB #1088-1 - DIRECTOR'S REPORT. Parks and Recreation Commission accepted and filed the September - October, 1988, Director's Report. ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR: 2. AB #1088-2 - DECEMBER PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING/ANNUAL CHRISTMAS POTLUCK DINNER. Dave Bradstreet announced that the Christmas Party will be held on the regular meeting night—December 19, 1988, at the Harding Street Community Center. The regular meeting will be at 5:00 p.m.. with the party starting after the meeting. 3. AB E1088-3 - PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION WORKSHOP. Dave Bradstreet announced that the Commission Workshop would be held Saturday, December 3, 1988, from 9:30 a.m. until 2:30 p.m. The location for the Workshop has not been selected at this time. He stated the goal of this Commission was to become proactive instead of reactive. Mr. Bradstreet stated that Keith Beverly would contact each Commissioner for the appointments for the individual interviews with the facilitator. Parks and Recreation Commission accepted Items 2 and 3 of the Consent Calendar. PUBLIC HEARINGS; 4. AB *1088-fr - PARKS AND RECREATION ELEMENT REVISION. Dave Bradstreet Introduced this item, stating it would be a condensed version of the staff report presented at the September meeting. He said the revised Element represented contemporary recreation trends—what the citizens have told staff they want. Mr. Bradstreet said he felt this new Element made the City's standards clear and understandable. Keith Beverly continued the report, using a slide presentation to identify the seven goals, with the ultimate goal to ensure that the citizens of Carlsbad are afforded the opportunity to enjoy optimum leisure experiences.- 0005 Lawson Castner Dahlquist Knox Morrison Strayer Welshons MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION October 17, 1988 Page 3 COMMISSIONERS Mr. Beverly used transparencies to show the Present and Future Park Inventory; a new category, Miscellaneous Landscape/Open Space Areas and the Projected Population. Dave Bradstreet explained that Carrlllo Ranch was dedicated to the City In 1975 as a community park under the Qulmby Act. From 1979 to 1982, the City considered that property to be one for private development. In 1987, the City Council approved Carrlllo Ranch as a Special Use Area, based on a recommendation by the Commission. The 10 acres of park land, as It was dedicated, could now be counted to meet park acreage requirements In the southeast quadrant. In 1975, an additional eight acres of park land was offered, but because It was undevelopable, the Commission opted to receive park-ln-lleu fees. Carrlllo Ranch was ten acres at that time and was to be a passive area. Mr. Bradstreet said there had been an elementary school planned northwest of the ranch property, and since a deficit of 8.5 acres of park land had been Identified in this quadrant, the Commission has recommended to pursue acquisition of that acreage adjacent to the Ranch site. He said that staff felt this should be classified as a community park. Keith Beverly said that the Ranch had been made a Special Use Area because of the historical nature of the area and its size, and it was to be passive in nature. Chairman Lawson inquired whether future school sites had been included in the inventory, and Mr. Bradstreet stated that the only school sites included were those that were definitely to be constructed. There may be more school sites that were not counted, as they are not definitely defined at this time. Mr. Bradstreet and Mr. Beverly explained the changes made in the Element since the last meeting, and emphasized these were only minor language changes. Chairman Lawson opened the Public Hearing at 6:H p.m., and issued the invitation to speak. Bill Oaugherty, 2600 La Golondrina, stated his wife was promoting the arboretum for the area near Carrlllo Ranch, and he wondered whether the ranch could be other than a special resource area because of the historical significance. Dave Bradstreet explained the definitions of the different classifications under Parks and Recreation, stating staff felt the Ranch should be classified as a community park area. He stated the historical area would be protected under any classification, and the community park classification would allow for a broader range of opportunities for the area. Larry Grande, representing the Carlsbad Soccer Club, 2738 Victoria Avenue, distributed copies of a letter to the Commissioners, and told of the growth of the Soccer Club. He requested an adult soccer field and told of the shortage of places to play soccer at this time. 0006 MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION October 17, 1988 Page *COMMISSIONERS Dave Bradstreet explained how the soccer program has grown and stated It takes almost three acres of flat ground for a soccer field, which makes It difficult In some quadrants of the City. Soccer fields will be incorporated into future parks. Steve Weber, Leucadia Soccer Club, addressed the Commission, stating 80 percent of their soccer players live in La Costa. He also told of the shortage of soccer fields and said the multi-use fields are not satisfactory bcause of the skinned off areas, which can cause injuries to the children. Commissioner Morrison inquired whether the soccer people had approached the school people, and Mr. Weber answered they had not appeared before the School Board. Commissioner Morrison suggested they make a presentation to the School Board. Virginia Morito, 1088 Chestnut, stated her main concern was the carry-over of CIP projects from previous plans and she requested the Commission go back over old plans to see whether all Items on there had been accomplished. Ms. Morito had a copy of an old CIP and had highlighted the Parks and Recreation items in yellow. Specific items mentioned by Ms. Morito were: The lighting at Calavera Park — and how to address the problem. Why is the northwest quadrant all built-out? What does "quality" mean? She stated the fields are dangerous to play on and if more fields are to be built, she felt quality was Important—and who was liable for injuries if the fields were dangerous? On Goal 3, Ms. Morito asked what was the "self-supportive system"? Goal 4 — asking user groups to augment existing public facilities — she asked that be explained and she did not want special user groups to be told to find their own land. Objective 4B - Ms. Morito said she had trouble following the developers providing certain smaller parks and activities and asked how that tied in. Ms. Morito asked why the Maxton Brown Extension was dropped and how large was that area. Cannon Lake was listed on the old CIP and also Occidental Park. Ms. Morito said a trail 'system was listed on the old CIP, providing 35 miles of trails to be tied into the State and County trails. Also there was equestrian and hiking trails to connect with Carrillo Park Equestrian Center. 0007 MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION October 17, 1988 Page 5 COMMISSIONERS Ms. Morito asked why nothing had been done at Buena Vista School. She asked about the quality of programs and asked what should be done when a parent Is not satisfied with a program. She read the description of a basketball program which indicated It was not supposed to be competitive, but was. She said the Coach was not present most of the time and asked how the quality of such programs is assured. RECESS; Chairman Lawson declared a Recess at 7:18 p.m., and Parks and Recreation Commission re-convened at 7:27 p.m., with all Members present. Dave Bradstreet asked Mrs. Morito to come to his office and he would explain the CIP and give her a copy of the latest one. He said that some of the projects are still in that CIP, with the year given for the funding of those projects. There have been changes made, due to the change in the Parks Element in 1982. He indicated staff would compile a report for her review. Mr. Bradstreet stated that "contemporary" meant the new ideas in recreation. As far as the lighting in Calavera Hills Park, Mr. Bradstreet explained that all approvals on that Park indicated it was to be a lighted facility, and staff thought the complaint area had been covered. However, in the future staff will make certain the developers tell prospective buyers exactly what is planned as far as parks in an area. Mr. Bradstreet stated that "quality" was very important to the Parks & Recreation Department with regard to their programs and their equipment. He said if the fields are dangerous to play on, that will be corrected. There Is a new regulation requiring fields to be shut down for 30 days, when necessary, for rehabilitation. Mr. Bradstreet said that if there is a problem with a specific program, staff should be notified. There are a lot of volunteers used in parks programs and regular staff tries to inform everyone that competitiveness is not to be stressed in any programs. Since no one else wished to speak on this matter, the Public Hearing was closed at 7:37 p.m. Commission discussion followed, with one point explained by several different Commissioners and staff; that of encouraging the different groups to negotiate with industry or private parties for some exclusive use of a field area. In the opinion of staff, sometimes those groups can negotiate for the use of an area much faster and easier than the City can, even though it may be just a short-term type of agreement.' Parks and Recreation Commission approved reclasslfying Carrillo Ranch as a Community Park. 0008 Lawson Castner Dahlquist Knox Morrison Strayer Helshons MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION October 17, 1988 Page 6 COMMISSIONERS Parks and Recreation Commission directed staff to make the following revision in Objective 4D: "Work cooperatively with and encouraae specialized user groups including, but not limited to, Little League, Bobby Sox and Pop Warner, to identify, acquire and develop sites for their exclusive use on private land, when feasible." Parks and Recreation Commission approved the Parks and Recreation Element Revsislon, as amended, and recommended adoption to the Planning Commission and City Council. 5. AB #1088-5 - PACIFIC RIM PARK SITE DEDICATION. Chairman Lawson stated he would abstain from discussion and vote on this item and Commissioner Morrison Chaired the Commission. Commissioner Kelshons left the meeting at 8:11 p.m. Dave Bradstreet gave the staff report, using wall charts to show the site. He stated the developer has agreed to dedicate 4.1 additional acres, making a total of 28.5 acres, with 24.25 usable acres. Mr. Bradstreet described the proposed amenities for this park site, stating there would be soccer fields. Commissioner Morrison opened the Public Hearing at 8:24 p.m. and issued the invitation to speak. Since no one wished to speak on this item, the Public Hearing was closed. Parks and Recreation Commission accepted the revised Pacific Rim Park Master Plan, which increases the amount of developable park land from 17.75 acres to 24.25 acres . Chairman Lawson returned to the Chair. 6. AB #1088-6 - CITY/CUSD FACILITY MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. Dave Bradstreet gave the staff report as contained in the Agenda Bill. Parks and Recreation Commission endorsed the proposed Facility Maintenance Agreement and recommended approval by the City Council. 0009 Lawson Castner Dahlquist Knox Morrison Strayer Helshons Lawson Castner Dahlquist Knox Morrison Strayer Kelshons Lawson Castner Dahlquist Knox Morrison Strayer Lawson Castner Dahlquist Knox Morrison Strayer X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION October 17, 1988 Page 7 COMMISSIONERS DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS: 7. AB #1088-7 - CALAVERA HILLS COMMUNITY PARK UPDATE. Dave Bradstreet reported that the building at Calavera Hills Park is 70 percent completed and the Park is a wonderful facility. He described the amenities of the Park and stated the opening date is tentatively set for February 28, 1989. Parks and Recreation Commission accepted staff presentation. COMMITTEE REPORTS: There were no Committee Reports. AGENDA ITEMS FOR NOVEMBER 21, 1988. Commissioners were reminded to call staff with any Item they wished placed on the Agenda. SCRIBE REPORT: Commissioner Castner gave the Scribe Report. ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion, the Meeting of October 17, 1988, was adjourned at 8:40 p.m. Respectfully submitted, jHfcj$&'** fjvbv*^ Harriett Babbitt Minutes Clerk 0010 Lawson Castner Dahlquist Knox Morrison Strayer X X X X X X X