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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-05-15; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMINUTES Meeting of: Date of Meeting: Time of Meeting: Place of Meeting: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION May 15, 1989 5:00 p.m. City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Dahlqulst called the Meeting to order at 5:05 p.m. ROLL CALL: Present: Chairperson Dahlqulst, Commissioners Castner, Knox, Morrison and Welshons. Commissioner Lawson arrived at 5:10 p.m. Absent: Commissioner Strayer. Staff Present: David Bradstreet, Director, Parks and Recreation Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst Doug Duncanson, Parks Superintendent Ken Price, Principal Recreation Supervisor Phil Carter, Growth Management Manager Assistant to the City Manager APPROVAL OF MINUTES; Minutes of the Regular Meeting held April 17, 1989, were approved as amended to Include the following: "the Finance Director to discuss with Council the opportunity to show support (by fee limitations) for competitive swim and youth sports programs". Minutes of the Regular Meeting held March 20, 1989, were approved as presented. The Scribe Report was approved by the same motion. APPOINT SCRIBE; Commissioner Castner was appointed Scribe for this meeting. PUBLIC OPEN FORUM; Stephen McDonald, 2704 Via Collma, has children In the dance classes held by Parks and Recreation, and expressed concern that one of the best dance Instructors was about to be lost to the children due to a misunderstanding between that teacher and the Parks and Recreation Department. He said she was the most popular teacher In Carlsbad, and holds a recital each year. The conflict has to do with Calavera Hills Center and the fact that she Is being denied use of It for tap lessons, as It was felt that might damage the floor. Mr. McDonald told of the dangerous situation at Harding Street for the children, and how pleased the parents were when Calavera Hills was finished. However, they found out that tap classes would not be offered on the hardwood floors. The teacher, Grace Ann, stated she could not teach If the classes were not offered on hardwood floors. She was offered linoleum floors, and that Is very harmful for young children. 04 Dahlqulst Castner Knox Morrison Welshons Dahlqulst Castner Knox Lawson Morrison Welshons MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION May 15, 1989 Page 2 COMMISSIONERS Mr. McDonald felt tap classes would not harm the floors and after surveying dance studios, It was found that the consensus was that tap classes would not be harmful. Ken Price had written to Mr. McDonald stating that the teacher had decided to stay at Harding, and Mr. McDonald said that was not so, as she plans to leave. He told of the difficulty of reaching anyone at Parks and Recreation, and said this would be going to Council, but he wanted this Commission to know the situation. Mr. McDonald asked for someone from the Commission or staff to talk to professional dance studios and find out what the reality Is behind amateur tap for little girls on a ballet floors, and whether the wear and tear from tap shoes Is worse than that of sports, tables and chairs or high heels, and whether re-surfacing around the bar area would solve the problem. Chairperson Dahlqulst stated this would be an agenda Item at the next meeting, for a full report. PRESENTATIONS; There were no presentations. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Parks and Recreation Commission accepted the Agenda as presented. CONSENT CALENDAR; Parks and Recreation Commission affirmed the action of the Consent Calendar, as follows: WAIVER OF AGENDA TEXT READING: Parks and Recreation Commission waived the reading of the text of Agenda Items at this meeting. CONSENT CALENDAR; (Continued) 1. AB 0589-1 DIRECTOR'S REPORT. Parks and Recreation Commission accepted and filed the Director's Report (April 1989 - May 1989). 2. AB #589-2 - CARLSBAD BOULEVARD IMPROVEMENTS UPDATE. Parks and Recreation Commission reviewed and filed Information regarding current and future development plans for Carlsbad Boulevard. Dahlqulst Castner Knox Lawson Morrison Welshons Dahlqulst Castner Knox Lawson Morrlson Welshons MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION May 15, 1989 Page 3 COMMISSIONERS PUBLIC HEARING: 3. AB #589-3 NORTHWEST QUADRANT PARK ISSUES. Mario Monroy, 3610 Carlsbad Boulevard, said he was confused as to whether the Parks and Recreation Commission wanted the public to speak before they addressed the Issue or after, and he said copies of a letter that had been sent to the Council should have been given to the Commissioners. It was determined that they did have copies. Mr. Monroy said their group had not discussed this Item as It was not received until Friday, and he would just say a few words tonight and after the staff presentation the other citizens could then make any statements they wished. Mr. Monroy said he wanted to comment on the packet given to the Commission by Dave Bradstreet. He referred to page two, where the word "supplement" appeared, and Goal 1, Policy 1C, you use the word "supplement" for school grounds. In this memo, Mr. Bradstret had another meaning for that word, which then makes the citizens' group not certain about the meaning of that word. Mr. Monroy said that since the Element has been approved by this Commission and sent forward, the citizens' group was concerned about the change In the meaning of the word "supplement". He said the Growth Management Plan had created some problems for the Northwest Quadrant that nobody has addressed. In the other three Quadrants, the things that happen In the parks are through the Growth Management Plan or associations. However, In the Northwest Quadrant, there are no associations, but Just a group of citizens. Those citizens have gotten together to look after the necessities of their Quadrant. They do not Intend to Interfere with the building In the Northwest Quadrant, but they feel they are running out of time. They are 75 percent built out—but there Is nothing In the budget for that Quadrant. If they wait until 1998, when most things are planned for the Northwest Quadrant, there will not be any land left for parks. Mr. Monroy said they had looked at the land holdings of the City In the Northwest Quadrant and feel there Is an opportunity to use some of these lands for parks, and are taking this matter to Council In the hope of not losing another budget year. They have also requested of Council to delay approving the Park Element and create an ad hoc committee of members of staff, Parks and Recreation Commission and residents of the Northwest Quadrant to look at the portion of the proposed Park Element that does not deal with the Northwest Quadrant. Mr. Monroy added that the Element does a beautiful job for the other three Quadrants, but not the Northwest Quadrant. Mr. Monroy mentioned the money listed by Dave Bradstreet to be spent In the Northwest Quadrant over the next ten years, and said that If an Item was to be put out on what was spent In the Northwest Quadrant, then they should put In how much Income there was In the Northwest Quadrant In the last ten years. 05 MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION May 15, 1989 Page 4 COMMISSIONERS PUBLIC HEARING: (Continued) Chairperson Dahlqulst said that Mr. Monroy was saying that the Northwest Quadrant Is unique and there are some problems there. There Is committee work being done on It at this time, and she said that an ad hoc committee was an excel lent Idea. Mr. Monroy said the matter was being taken to Council as they were the only ones who could Initiate an ad hoc committee. Commissioner Lawson asked Mr. Monroy whether the citizens' group was In concurrence with staff's position at this time, and Mr. Monroy said "no", because of the budget and the Parks Element. He said they did not want to lose that one year of the budget, and that was why they went to Council to create the ad hoc committee. Dave Bradstreet highlighted the report and opened the discussion for questions. Mr. Bradstreet said Mr. Monroy appeared before the Commission at the time of the reviewing of the Element and said there was a citizens' group with areas of concern about the Northwest Quadrant and asking about a linear park along the railroad right-of-way. Mr. Bradstreet said there were some errors In the Element which were discovered, and he said the sub-committee reviewed this report and did supply some comments. He said concerns 1 - 6 were those of Mr. Monroy, and 7 and 8 were the concerns and sub-concerns In the letter of Thelma Hayes. Council directed staff to review the economic Impact If certain leased properties were not counted In the Inventory, and that was answered In the report. Thelma Hayes, 580 Laguna Drive, spoke about the Block Grant funds for the Redevelopment Area, and stated that this year there Is over two hundred thousand dollars In that fund. Anyone can make suggestions for projects for Block Grant funds and the projects can be anywhere In Carlsbad. She said the Redevelopment Area Is an Integral part of the Northwest Quadrant. In answer to Commission query regarding the school grounds being counted for 100 percent toward the park requirements, Mr. Bradstreet explained that there are agreements with the schools, and those could be made stronger, If that was felt necessary. He said staff had no problem with the school agreements as they exist. In discussion, It was felt that the statement, "Development of a five year plan to determine the most effective method to Implement the Park Enhancement program" should read: the £ark jsnhancement program, eliminating the capital letters. MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION May 15, 1989 Page 5 COMMISSIONERS PUBLIC HEARING; (Continued) Marjorle Monroy, 3610 Carlsbad Boulevard, stated that the citizens' group envisioned a transition period where 40 percent of the school park land would be counted temporarily, as long as there was a plan to take up the slack and not count that land as park land. She said those areas are not for the people of the Norl-hwest Quadrant—as the schoolyards are chained off and there are signs warning people to stay out. Mrs. Monroy stated those should not be counted as parks. Mrs. Monroy said there was a recommendation to study the Impacts of schoolgrounds not being counted In the other three Quadrants—but the Northwest Quadrant was left out. She said the attitude was that the Quadrant was built out and nothing could be done If those were taken out. Phil Carter, Growth Management Manager, stated that It would be premature to make a decision on whether or not to count schoolgrounds to meet the standards untlI there had been a study made of the Impact of such a decision. Mrs. Monroy said that the parks should be near the people, and In the Northwest Quadrant most of the people live between the railroad and 1-5. She said she felt the parks should be where the people live who use them the most, and added that a lot of apartment houses were not Included In the 1980 census. Chairperson Dahlqulst stated that the school districts rely on the Parks and Recreation Department to schedule their facilities, and have to be open to the public. Dave Bradstreet stated that for clarification, the word "supplement" was created by the sub-committee, and as used In Concern #9, was to be In addition to and counting toward meeting the park standard. The Commission discussed the concerns of the citizens and their desire for an ad hoc committee, and all expressed the desire to cooperate with them to work out the problems of the Northwest Quadrant. The consensus of the Commission was to not delay the passing of the Revised Parks Element, as It could be amended at any time. The Parks and Recreation Commission dlreefed the Park Site and Facility Planning Subcommittee to meet with representatives from the Northwest Quadrant and return to the Commission with recommendations; and further recommended that the 1989 proposed Parks and Recreation Element Revision be approved as submitted, with a condition that If any subsequent approved change Is to be made to the document, It can be done by an addendum at any time. 06 Dahlqulst Castner Knox Lawson MorrI son Welshons MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION May 15, 1989 Pa9e 6 COMMISSIONERS AGENDA ITEMS FOR JUNE 19, 1989; Staff report on tap dancing lessons to include report from Pol Ice Department on disturbances at Harding Street Center SCRIBE REPORT; Commissioner Castner gave the Scribe Report. ADJOURNMENT; By proper motion, the Meeting of May 15, 1989, was adjourned at 7:20 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ^~>subm Hafrlett BabblH Minutes Clerk