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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-06-19; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMINUTES Meeting of: Date of Meeting: Time of Meeting: Place of Meeting: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION June 19, 1989 5:00 p.m. City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Dahlqulst called the Meeting to order at 5:05 p.m. ROLL CALL: Present: Chairperson Dahlqulst, Commissioners Castner, Knox, Lawson, Strayer and Welshons. Absent: Commissioner Morrison. Staff Present: Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst Doug Duncanson, Parks Superintendent Ken Price, Principal Recreation Supervisor Lynn Chase, Recreation Superintendent APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of the Regular Meeting held May 15, 1989, were approved as amended: (See page attached to these Minutes) The Scribe Report and Mayor's comments were approved by the same motion. APPOINT SCRIBE: Commissioner Lawson was appointed Scribe for this meeting. PUBLIC OPEN FORUM: There were no requests to address the Commission. APPROVAL OF AGENDA; The Parks and Recreation Commission accepted the Agenda as presented. CONSENT CALENDAR: Chairperson Dahlqulst requested I terns #2 and #3 be removed from the Consent Calendar. There was no motion to approve the Consent Calendar at this time, which consisted of Item #1. WAIVER OF AGENDA TEXT READING; The Parks and Recreation Commission waived the reading of the text of Agenda Items at this meeting. 04 Dahlqulst Castner Knox Lawson Strayer Welshons Dahlqulst Castner Knox Lawson Strayer Welshons MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION June 19, 1989 Page 2 COMMISSIONERS CONSENT CALENDAR: (Continued) 2. AB #689-2 TRIATHLON DONATIONS. Sara Drapkln, Parks and Recreation, presented the Commission with the following donations for the 1989 Carlsbad Triathlon: Mark Stein Beverage Company $ 750 Fleldstone Company 2,000 Herrick Corporation on behalf of Capital Sank of Carlsbad, Economy Inns and Rain Tree Grll I and Bar 3,500 BRR...Burgers 4 Yogurt 500 Chairperson Dahlqulst accepted the donations totaling $6,750, In lieu of a motion to accept. 3. AB #689-3 TENNIS DAY CAMP DONATION Doug Duncanson IntroducedTTonyMlrlngoff, representing the North County Tennis PatrCns, who presented the Commission with a donation of $200 to be used for the Youth Tennis Day Camp at La Costa. Chairperson Dahlqulst accepted the donation on behalf of the Commission, with no formal motion made. PUBLIC HEARINGS! None DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS; 4. AB #698-4 VOLLEYBALL TRAINING CENTER PROPOSAL Taras Llskevych, Head Coach for the USA Women's National Volleyball Team, addressed the Commission, stating that from 11 to 34 ml 11 Ion people are playing volleybalI throughout the Country. He said a national center for volleyball Is needed and this would be an opportunity for Carlsbad to become the volleyball center of the United States, or perhaps the world. Mr. Llskevych Indicated there was no commitment to the Otay Lakes facility, and he was before this commission to ask Carlsbad and the Parks & Recreation Department to consider donating 4 to 7 acres of land In one of their park facilities for a national volleyball center. This could be developed by corporate sponsors and fundralslng events at no cost to the community. This would be an opportunity to have Olympic teams training here, using the facility from 7:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. five days a week, and the community using the facility the remaining hours. Commissioner Castner Inquired about the public using the facility from 11:30 a.m. each day, and whether a fee would be charged. Mr. Llskevych said that would depend on whether or not It was endowed, but that he was not here to present how It would be operated; he was asking the City to consider donating the land, with someone else to build and operate the facility. Mr. Castner asked what was In It for "Joe Six-Pack", and Mr. Llskevych said he would be able to play volleyball and have Instruction from Olympic athletes. Mr. Castner said that the land had to be paid for by someone. MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION June 19, 1989 Page 3 COMMISSIONERS DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS: (Continued) Commissioner Knox felt the time line needed to be worked out, and how this would fit Into the plans; also where It would be located. Commissioner Strayer thought this was a great Idea and would be very valuable to the City and Its reputation over the Country. He told of what Little League Baseball had done for the City of WII Ilamsport, and felt this type of facility would bring that same kind of fame to Carlsbad. He commented that the Influx of tourists for this type of facility should make the hotel and motel operators very happy. Commissioner Lawson also liked the Idea and felt Cannon Lake might be a suitable site for such a facility. Commissioner Castner felt all sites should be considered and added he was not sure this was a great opportunity for Carlsbad. He said he wanted more Information, as land Is so valuable. He also felt Cannon Lake should be considered. His mam concern was that a fee would be charged and Just how much that fee might be. Commissioner Welshons said that there are other sports that are not tied Into Otay Lakes, and perhaps a fitness center could be developed at the facility. She said she would like to study the proposal more closely. Chairperson Dahlqulst said this facility would take one fourth of a community park of 20 acres. She asked for a definite time for staff to return with a report. Staff Indicated a report could be ready by August. Commissioner Lawson requested the motion contain Information on other types of Olympic facilities, but after further discussion, withdrew the request. The Parks and Recreation Commission directed staff to explore the possibility of Incorporating a volleyball training center Into one of the future park areas and return with a report at the August Commission meeting. The report Is to contain any questions of staff and Input from the Commissioners after they have reviewed the proposal, and to be distributed to the Commissioners In advance of the regular packet. 5. AB #689-5 TAP DANCE CLASSES/SCHEDULING FACILITIES FOR RECREATION CLASSES Lynn Chase, Recreation Superintendent, gave the staff report as contained In the Agenda Bill, referencing the "form letter" received from parents, Ken Price's memorandum dated May 11, 1989, and the letter of Intent to withdraw from Grace Etchberrla. Mrs. Chase stated that draperies at the Harding Street Center were not pulled shut, as they could have been, If there was an uneasy feeling of people peering through the windows. She said there had been no Incidents with the young men that walk past the Center, and felt this was perceived rather than actual. 05 Dahlqulst Castner Knox Lawson Strayer Welshons MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION June 19, 1989 Page 4 COMMISSIONERS DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS: (Continued) Mrs. Chase continued, stating that staff had checked with the other municipalities with regard to tap dance classes, and all but one conducted those classes on tile flooring. The one city that did use wooden floors had a cost-sharing program. Mrs. Chase concluded, stating that staff felt that Parks and Recreation should determine where classes are to be held and assign them accordingly, and the tap dancing classes should be held at Harding. Commissioner Castner asked about the two Incidents referred to In the packets, and staff Indicated one was at a Junior high school dance, with no one recalling the second one. Mr. Castner said staff stays until 5:00 p.m., and there are fellows sitting on the fence at that time and there are no cat calls. He also said he worked at the bingo game on Saturdays for two years and there was only one Incident during that time. He further commented that just because someone thinks the young men look tough does not mean that they are—and that parents with young daughters do have those concerns. The Parks and Recreation Commission directed staff to continue to determine the uses and to schedule City facilities under the existing policies and procedures, taking Into account all the pertinent facts of each proposed use. 6. AB #689-6 CITIZEN REQUEST Mr. W. R. Beverly, a member of the Recreational Facility Financing Committee, 4605 La Portalada, summarized his letter that was contained In the packet, stating his request for a quarterly status review on the Committee recommendations. Ramona Finn!la, 4615 Trieste Drive, stated she felt Mr. Beverly's request for a status review was an excellent Idea; particularly, with regard to tennis and soccer. She felt those two sports would not have as much attention as golf and an update was necessary. This would also provide an opportunity for citizens to aid In the formation of programs and help conduct them. Ms. Finn!la stated that a key Issue was a stadium tennis court. She described how this could be used for celebrity tournaments and for fundralslng, as well as encouraging people to consider these as spectator sports. Ms. Flnnlla also suggested a ball wall, which would provide a place for warmup for players or for finding a partner for a tennis game. She also suggested coin-operated showers for the working people. Ms. Flnnlla said that quite often tennis and golf do not work well together, with one dominating at a facility, and she felt they could be coordinated successfully. Dahlqulst Castner Knox Lawson Strayer Welshons MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION June 19, 1989 Page 5 COMMISSIONERS DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS; (Continued) In conclusion, Ms. Flnnlla cautioned that It should be made very clear to the citizens that the volleyball facility was completely separate from what was contained on the June ballot. She felt It could happen that some of the citizens would think that something was being "slipped In under the rug" and that should not happen. Comment was made that the reporters should make certain that they point out that this Is a separate request, so the public will know the two are not related. Commissioner Welshons asked whether this was now a Parks and Recreation Commission Item, when It originally went directly to Council and was approved and the Committee appointed. Commissioner Strayer commented that the Committee spent a considerable amount of time on this and he felt It would be to the advantage of this Commission to have an update to know just what had been done. Keith Beverly answered Commissioner Welshons, stating that work has been done on the golf course Issue, but as explained In the Agenda Bill, the recommendation of the Committee was to have a multi-court tennis facility In the next community park. The Alta Mlra facility Is still In litigation, and that postponed any action on that recommendation. Commissioner Strayer said he felt there were really two Issues; one, an update on the recommendations of the Committee, and two, the request for a tennis stadium court. He said that request was not spelled out In the original recommendations, and should be dealt with separately. Commissioner Castner commented that July 5 was the court date for Alta Mlra. The Parks and Recreation Commission directed staff to update the Commission on the status of the Recreational Facility Financing Committee recommendations as Council directs them and they research them, Including correspondence with citizens. 7. AB #669-7 1988 PARK BOND ACT (PROPOSITION 70) Keith Beverly gave the staff report as contained In the Agenda Bill, asking the Commissioners to recommend projects or call staff with any suggestions. In answer to Commission query regarding whether this money had to be spent equally In alI Quadrants, staff said It could be spent all In one Quadrant. One suggestion was to develop Hosp Grove. Suggestions for projects Included a jogging trail; lap pool; rock climbing area (at Alta Mlra); horse trails; money for Carrlllo Ranch; patio furniture and barbecue for the Senior Center; shade trees at Stagecoach Park; flat concrete area with raised portions for seating at one of the parks; one-on-one basketball courts; triathlon center; rubberized jogging track. Staff asked the Commissioners to telephone any other suggestions to them. 06 Dahlqulst Castner Knox Lawson Strayer Welshons MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION June 19, 1989 Page 6 COMMISSIONERS DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS; (Continued) 8. AB #689-9 FOUNDERS DAY RECOMMENDATIONS Chairperson Dahlqulst asked the Commissioners to Indicate whether they favored this suggestion, and If they had any Ideas about It, to write those down and send them to Mayor Lewis. Commissioner Strayer felt It was a good Idea and felt plaques or some form of appreciation should be given, with perhaps a dinner, around the 4th of July. Commissioner Knox stated she had no feelings on this. Commissioner Castner felt It was a good Idea and would draw the City together. He felt It should start with honoring the past and present Council Members and School Board. Commissioner Welshons agreed It was a good Idea and should be ongoing, and not just for those here when the City was Incorporated, with a halI of fame, and perhaps coordinated with the City Fa I res. Commissioner Lawson concurred and Chairperson Dahlqulst thought It was a fine Idea. COMMITTEE REPORTS; 1. N.W. Quadrant Park Issues Chairperson Dahlqulst reported this committee Is working and she and Mario Monroy are Co-Chair Ing the committee. She reported that Commissioners Lawson, Welshons and she are the Members, with Commissioner Knox as Alternate, and the committee meets every Thursday. Commissioner Knox Inquired whether she was to attend all meetings, and Chairperson Dahlqulst explained that only three members could participate In the meeting. 2. Parks and Recreation Element Revision Keith Beverly stated this was an Information Item only, and that the Element Is being reviewed at this time. It will be back before the Commission for final review. 3. Carrlllo Ranch - Historic Preservation Grant Update Keith Beverly reported on the grant received for the stabllzatlon of the bulId Ings, and he will act as a consultant In the decisions on the restoration, since he lived there for several years. AGENDA ITEMS FOR JULY 17, 1989, COMMISSION MEETING: 1. Railroad RIght-of-Way Study 2. Request to Purchase Oak Park 3. Report on Triathlon 4. Report on soccer fields MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION May 15, 1989 Page 7 COMMISSIONERS ADDITION TO PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF May 15, 1989. Commissioner Castner requested the following addition: Commissioner Castner said he was In favor of the City buying as much land as It can afford, but he did not agree that the Northwest Quadrant was short of parkland according to the Growth Management Plan. He said when the citizens voted for the Growth Management Plan, they knew that school land was to be Included. In the Northwest Quadrant, there are 27.3 acres of school land, and In the other three quadrants combined there are 17.8 acres. These other three quadrants at bulldout will have more schools and more acreage and the Northwest Quadrant will not. Commissioner Castner said he did not agree that 40 percent of the time we do not have the use of school park acreage. The children have use of this and they are not using the public parks. We will always have schools, and do not have to worry about school land being sold off. If It Is, this school land, like all school property, would be very difficult to dispose of. The sale of school property requires unanimous consent of all the Members of the School Board, then It goes to the State and the State has to approve of that. After that, the City has the first chance to buy It, so we don't have to worry about It being sold off. Commissioner Castner said the Northwest Quadrant Is not deficient In parkland according to the requirements In the Growth Management Project—but perhaps you want to exceed the Growth Management Project, and he said he agreed with that If there Is the money. There are 89 acres In Hosp Grove, 53 acres of which will cost the taxpayers 17 million dollars from the General Fund. Those 89 acres comprise 60 percent of the total requirements for this Quadrant. We are only counting 27—and Commissioner Castner said to count all 89 and develop It. Commissioner Castner said that Thelma Hayes, of the Committee that appeared before this Commission, was quoted as saying that demographics demand that existing and future parks be accessible to citizens. He said that Hosp Grove Is certainly accessible for active and passive recreation such as hiking trails, picnic areas, horseshoes, volleyball, tennis, outdoor basketball, to name a few. Commissioner Castner stated that In the Northwest Quadrant, In addition to the small parks, we have Macarlo Canyon, alI 288 acres of It, two lagoons and the ocean beach. Hosp Grove with 89 acres, plus Macarlo Canyon, with 288 acres, total 377 acres, all In the Northwest Quadrant. These two parks alone comprise 93 percent of the total acreage required by the entire City at bulldout. If the City has the funds, and we can Improve upon this, Mr. Castner was In favor of Improving upon It. In conclusion, Commissioner Castner said that he thought just as It exists today, the Northwest Quadrant Is not short of parkland. '«. w 07 MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION June 19, 1989 Page 8 COMMISSIONERS Lynn Chase Introduced the new Recreation Supervisor, Gall Watts. SCRIBE REPORT: Commissioner Lawson gave the Scribe Report, stating that the Consent Calendar was not accepted. The Parks and Recreation Commission accepted the Director's Report, AB #689-1, May-June, 1989, as presented. Chairperson Dahlqulst requested staff list each item on the Agenda as either "Information Item" or "action Item". ADJOURNMENT; By proper motion, the Meeting of June 19, 1989, was adjourned at 7:28 p.m. Resectfu Harriett Babbitt Minutes Clerk Dahlqulst Castner Knox Lawson Strayer Welshons