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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
5:00 p.m.
October 15, 1990
City Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
ORDER;
Chairperson Welshons called the Meeting to order at
5:03 p.m.
Present: chairperson Welshons, Commissioners Castner,
Finnila, Lawson, Strayer and Ward.
Absent: Commissioner Knox.
Staff Members Present:
David Bradstreet, Director, Parks and Recreation
Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst
Lynn Chase, Recreation Superintendent
Doug Duncanson, Park Superintendent
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Minutes of the Meeting held September 17, 1990, were
approved as presented. ( A majority of those in attendance
during the September Meeting voted for approval.)
SCRIBB REPORT:
The Scribe Report for the Meeting of September 17, 1990, was
approved as presented.
APPOINT SCRIBB:
Commissioner Ward was appointed Scribe for this Meeting.
PUBLIC OPBM FORUM:
There were no requests to address the Commission on a non-
agenda item.
PRESENTATIONS:
Chairperson Welshons introduced Ramona Finnila, the new
Parks and Recreation Commissioner.
Chairperson Welshons read a letter from former Commissioner
Shirley Dahlquist-Bursvold thanking the Commissioners for
the send-off, flowers, friendship and support she
experienced over the many years she served on the
Commission.
APPROVAL OF AOICTiDA:
The Agenda for October 15, 1990, was approved as printed.
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CONSENT CALENDAR;
The Parka and Recreation Commission affirmed the action of
the Consent Calendar/ as follows:
WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEIT READING:
The Parka and Recreation Commission waived the reading of
the Parks and Recreation Agenda Items at this Meeting.
1. AB *1090-1 DIRECTOR'S REPORT (INFO)
The Parks and Recreation Commission accepted and filed
the Director 'a Report for September-October 1990.
2. AB #1090-2 PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION CHRISTMAS
DINNER (INFO)
David Bradstreet announced the Christmas Dinner would be
held at 6:00 p.m., at the Senior Center, following the
regular 5:00 p.m. Meeting on December 17, 1990.
PUBLIC HEARINO:
None
DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS;
3. AB #1090-3 PARKS AND RECREATION ELEMENT REVISION
(ACTION)
Keith Beverly gave the staff report, giving a history of
the Element and explaining the changes. Those changes
deal with the recent Council action relating to open
space issues, trail feasibility, Northwest Quadrant parks
issue study and statements by the Planning Department to
replace statements made by the Commission Subcommittee
and Parka staff.
Mr. Beverly atated that changea to be made are: Shadow
the NW Quadrant liat on page 11, items one through four,
and add Hosp Grove 5.54 acres, special Use Area, Golf
Courae at Lake Calavera, and under "Citywide" addition of
Zone 5 Mitigation Area, and shadowed.
Mr. Beverly said that another issue outlined in this
Element is a statement concerning development of the Lake
Calavera site based on Council's direction as to
feasibility studies and the pursuit of the development of
a municipal golf course.
David Bradatreet added that on page 7 of the document
there is an error. Where the date October 1987 is given,
that should read: November 1987. He said that with the
recent changes, there is now no inconsistency between
this document and the Open Space document.
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DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS; (Continued)
Mr. Beverly referred to the revised Element Map on page
21, and stated that one recommended change would be to
add the Zone 5 park mitigation site to this map. He said
the acreages were revised to reflect the amounts as staff
believed they existed. On page 36, Mr. Beverly said to
add a #9 to the list - Community Garden to indicate that
maintenance is provided. This site will not be added to
the parkland inventory.
Commissioner Finnila asked for clarification on the
building of facilities in accordance with the Growth
Management Plan; i.e., that completion must be within
five years of development. Mr. Bradstreet stated that
they could start working on a facility within five yeara
and it could take another year to build. As long as a
facility is in the five-year plan, it can be funded. Mr.
Bradstreet said staff will try to clarify that in the
document.
Commissioner Finnila asked whether a statement should be
made that in other than the northwest quadrant,
schoolgrounds should not be counted as parkland. Mr.
Bradstreet said that is no longer an issue as Council
approved all quadrants to count school lands to meet the
standards for parks. Ma. Finnila said it should so
state.
Chairperson Welahona asked that Macario Canyon be changed
to Veterans Memorial Park throughout the document.
Commissioner Finnila felt that B.S under Objectives gives
a false impression as far as the wetlands of Agua
Hedionda Lagoon. The suggestion was made by staff to
create a new item under B.7 to deal with access to the
wetlanda.
Chairperson Welshona opened the item for public comment
at 5:46.
Mario Monroy, 3610 Carlsbad Boulevard, stated it was
totally unnecessary to count school grounds in the other
quadrants/ and this was subsidizing the developer by
using the schools. Although this was done a long time
ago in the northwest quadrant, he aaw no reason to
continue this policy. He said there was nothing wrong
with the use of the facilities, just that it would be
better for the benefit of the entire City not to count
schools in the future, and he hoped that issue would be
recona idered.
Since no one else wished to speak on this item, the
public comment portion was closed at 5:50 p.m.
The Parka and Recreation Commission adopted the following
corrections to the Revised Element: Northwest Quadrant,
add a #5, listing 5.54 acrea - Hosp Grove; Page 7, change
the date in aection H to November 1987; Page 12, under
CITYWIDE, add tl, Zone 5; Page 33, Zone 5 Recreational
Facility; Page 21, addition of Zone 5 Facility (there
will be City-wide designation for the Zone 5 Facility),
but Mr. Beverly atated since this was City-wide, it
should only be included on the City-wide map on page 21.
The Community Garden should be listed on Page 36, aa Item
#9, and on Open Space aa 1.3 acres.
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DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS: (Continued)
The Parks and Recreation Commission recommended that on
Page 7 of the Element a reference be made to the
Glossary. This would be subscript #7 for a point of
clarification on the term "must be scheduled for
construction within five years".
The Commission discussed the counting of school grounds
as parklands, and David Bradstreet stated that only six
more acres would be counted toward the standards, and
after that any school grounds that would be counted would
be in excess of the standards.
The Parks and Recreation Commission recommended that on
on Page 10, under Special Use Areas, a description be
added elaborating on C.6 regarding the applying of school
fields and grounds to meet the park standards.
The Parks and Recreation Commission recommended section
B.5 of the Element, page 18, be changed to state Veterans
Memorial Canyon and delete the shaded area. A B.6
Objective is to be added "pursue opportunities for
limited public access to the wetlands of the Aqua
Hedionda Lagoon for the purpose of visitor attractions;
i.e., interpretive centers, boardwalks, etc."
The Commission requested staff to add more definitive
information or numbers on the future Magnolia site and
the Agua Hedionda Zone 8 to the matrix and the Element,
if that information is available before this document is
finalized.
Scenic preservation areas in Carlsbad were mentioned, and
staff indicated there was another Element that took care
of that. Commissioner Finnila felt the information
should be repeated in this Element. Page S was felt to
be the spot for that tie-in and staff was directed to add
it to the other statements there. Staff will determine
whether or not this is needed.
Commissioner Castner recommended that since counting
school lands for parks is such a touchy subject, it would
be well to put in writing that the schools to be
developed in the future won't be counted. Chairperson
Welshons said this subject could be put on a future
agenda, but be tabled for now.
The Parks and Recreation Commission approved the Revised
Parks and Recreation Element, as amended, and forwarded
it to the Planning Department for further processing.
4. AB J1090-4 FACILITY STANDARDS ASP GUIDELINES (ACTION)
David Bradstreet stated this is the annual update for
these guidelines for park amenities.
Chairperson Welshons opened the item for public comment
at 6:52 p.m., but there were no requests to speak.
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DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS; (Continued)
The Parks and Recreation Commission continued this item
and returned it to staff to rework the Softball, baseball
and soccer items.
COMMITTEE REPORTS;
Open Space Advisory Committee
Chairperson Welshons reported on a recent meeting. She said
the committee is looking for a consultant to develop an open
space development plan.
Larwin Park Development
Commissioner Castner reported this has been finished.
Cultural Facilities Citizen Committee
Chairperson Welshons stated that Council had accepted the
consultants' report and now the Committee is developing
criteria to look at the consultants' recommendations.
Carrillo Ranch Development Timeline
Chairperson Welshons reported that Zone Plan 18 will be
going before Council and that is the zone with Carrillo
Ranch. She said there is concern about the additional 8.5
acres designated to be adjacent to the Ranch, as a buffer
zone is wanted around the Ranch. She stated she wanted this
as an agenda item before this Commission for a statement to
Planning for the Zone 18 Plan, as to how people are to enter
the Ranch. Staff indicated this will be on a future agenda.
Committee Assignment
Chairperson Welshons stated that Commissioner Finnila had
selected two areas; Park Sites/Facility Planning and
Commission Liaison to C.A.R.A.
naming of Park Sites/Request to Appoint Commissioners
Chairperson Welshons asked for volunteers to this Committee
and Commissioners Ward, Castner and Finnila volunteered.
BSIOH MEETING
Carrillo Ranch
Chairperson Welshons reminded the Commissioners to get items
for the next agenda in to staff before November 9.
ADJOORNMEMT:
By proper motion, the Meeting of October 15, 1990, was
adjourned at 7:33 p.m.
Respectfully submitted
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
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