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Meeting of: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Ii»« of Meeting: 5:00 P.M.
Date of Meeting: August 19, 1991
Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers
COMMISSIONERS
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Welshons called the Meeting to order at
5:05 p.m.
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Present: Chairperson Welshons, Commissioners Castner,
Finnila, Knox, Lawson, Strayer and Ward.
Absent: None.
Staff Members Present:
David Bradstreet, Director, Parks and Recreation
Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst
Ken Price, Recreation Superintendent
Doug Duncanson, Park Superintendent
Mark Steyaert, Park Development Coordinator
John Cahill, Municipal Projects Manager
Bob Johnson, Traffic Engineer
APPROVAL OF MINUTES;
The Minutes of the Meeting held July 15, 1991, were approved
as presented.
Commissioner Knox abstained from the portion of the July 15,
1991, Meeting of which she was not present.
The Summary Report for July, 1991, was omitted from the
packet and was continued to the next meeting.
PUBLIC OPEN FORUM;
There were no requests to address the Commission on a non-
agenda item.
PRESENTATIONS;
None.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA;
The Agenda for August 19, 1991, was approved as amended to
change the order of Departmental Reports, as follows: Item
#9, Item #10, Item #11, Item #7, Item #8, Item #12, Item #13
and Item #14.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
The Parks and Recreation Commission affirmed the action of
the "Consent Calendar, as follows:
WAIVER Of ORDINANCE TEXT READING;
The Parks and Recreation Commission waived the reading of
Agenda Items at this meeting.
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CONSENT CALENDAR: (Continued)
1. AB *891-1 DIRECTOR'S REPORT (INFO)
The Parks and Recreation Commission accepted and filed
the Director's Report for July-August, 1991.
2. AB *891-2 CONTINUITY OF TERM LENGTHS FOR BOARD.
COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS (INFO)
The Parks and Recreation Commission accepted and filed
City Council Agenda Bill No. 11,262.
3. AB 1891-3 ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION (ACTION)
The Parka and Recreation Commission received a donation
of $1,500 in support of baseball instruction camp and
recommended acceptance by the City Council.
4. AB *B91-4 CITIZEN LETTER/TRIATHLON (INFO)
The Parks and Recreation Commission accepted and filed a
citizen's comments regarding the 1991 Triathlon.
5. AB *891-5 CARLSBAD ARBORETUM FOUNDATION RESPONSE TO
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES. JULY 19. 1991 (INFO)
The Parks and Recreation Commission accepted and filed a
letter from Catherine Daugherty/Carlsbad Arboretum
Foundation, Inc.
6. AB 1891-6 ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS (ACTION)
The Parks and Recreation Commission received donations of
$850.23 for the Carrillo Ranch Trust.
PUBLIC HEARINGS!
None.
DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS;
9. AB *891-9 CITIZEN REQUEST FOR INSTALLATION OF TIME LOCK
GATE AT THE BEECH STREET ACCESS (ACTION)
Keith Beverly gave the staff report, stating that this is
a City-owned accessway, so the liability would remain
with the City. The problems are on the beach, with a few
in the accessway. However, access to the beach cannot be
denied.
Chairperson Helshons opened the public testimony at 5:25
p.m., and issued the invitation to speak.
Mrs. Jeri Mann, 2701 Ocean Street, representing Mr.
William c. Mann, asked the Commission to consider the
request for an electrical time lock gate at the Beech
Street accessway contained in Mr. Mann's letter dated
July 11, 1991, to the Parks and Recreation Department.
Mrs. Mann presented photographs to the Commissioners for
their perusal, she stated that most of the misconduct
occurs on the sand or on the seawall. Mrs. Mann
requested that this item be continued to the September
meeting to allow more citizens to give input.
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DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS: (Continued)
Since no one else wished to speak, the public testimony
was closed at 5:33 p.m.
The Parks and Recreation Commission continued this item
to the September meeting for staff to supply more
information on why the Police cannot enforce the laws. A
copy of this agenda bill is to be sent to Police Chief
Vales.
10. AB #891-10 CITIZEN REQUEST FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT (ACTION)
Keith Beverly gave the staff report.
Chairperson Welshons opened the public testimony at 5:47
p.m., and issued the invitation to speak.
Diane Brink, 7206 Azalea Place, stated she had requested
a small children's park close to the Spinnaker Hills
area, as there are more children there at this time, and
she felt there would be strong support in the
neighborhood for this park. She stated she would like a
park she could walk to, as they are 1.2 miles from the
Alta Mira Park. Mrs. Brink stated that the natural areas
are too dangerous for the children to play there.
Since no one else wished to speak, the public testimony
was closed at 5:54 p.m.
The Parks and Recreation Commission denied the request to
develop a small neighborhood park in the southwest
quadrant .
11. AB #891-11 LA COSTA YOUTH ORGANIZATION REQUEST TO
INSTALL BATTING CAGE FACILITY AT STAGECOACH PARK
(ACTION)
Ken Price and Doug Duncanson gave the staff report, using
slides and a transparency showing the design of the Park.
Chairperson Welshons opened the public testimony at 6:12
p.m. , and issued the invitation to speak.
Scott Pieratt, 7201 Manzanita Street, representing La
Costa Youth Organization as President, stated there is no
room for the kids to play ball, and the batting cage
would allow them to practice and alleviate the shortage
of fields. He said their organization would provide the
funding, construction and upkeep of the batting cage, and
would give the structure to the City. They would ask
that they have first priority for the batting cage use.
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DEPARH"pTAI. "SPORTS: (Continued)
Len Giuffre, 2930 Sombroaa Street, La Coata Youth
Organization, stated he is on the Board of Directors, and
they are asking for this Commission to be open to this
request. This batting cage would be an opportunity to
alleviate the shortage of ballfields.
Since no one else wished to speak, Chairperson Welshons
closed the public testimony at 6:25 p.m.
Commissioner Strayer spoke in favor of the request,
stating it needs to be further investigated to overcome
staff's problem with the batting cage.
Commissioner Finnila also spoke in favor of the request,
stating staff could find a place for the cage and move
the maintenance yard out of Stagecoach to Alta Mira.
David Bradstreet stated that the maintenance area in
Stagecoach is necessary and could not be relocated.
The Parks and Recreation Commission denied the La Costa
Youth Organization's request to construct a batting cage
facility 'at Stagecoach Park, and directed staff to work
with this organization to find another possible solution
and an alternative site.
RECESS:
Chairperson Welshona declared a Recess at 6:41 p.m., and the
Commission re-convened at 6:50 p.m., with six Members
present, and Commissioner Lawaon absent.
DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS; (Continued)
7. AB »891-7 LARWIN PARK DEVELOPMENT UPDATE (ACTION)
John Cahill and Mark Steyaert gave the staff report as
contained in the Agenda Bill.
Chairperson Helshons opened the public testimony at 7:34
p.m., and issued the invitation to speak.
W. R. Beverly, 4605 La Portalada, stated he was
interested in the three tennis courts. There were three
in Plan B and only two in Plan C. He said there is an
advantage to having three courts.
Mark Rifkin, 2521 Via Naranja, supported Mr. Beverly's
concern about tha tennis courts. He said they could be a
part of the North County Tennis League, if there were
three courts in the park. Mr. Rifkin stated he supported
Plan C.
Anna Cables, 3117 Vista Pica, recommended building a
viable park with ballfields, and stated that hopefully
the homeowners will approve Plan C.
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DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS: (Continued)
Judy Mueller, 2641 Vancouver Street, stated the children
would not walk farther to the signal to cross. She also
felt the power lines should be fenced. They could be
deadly for balloons and kites, she also said the trails
should be kept away from the canyons, due to the danger
of rattlesnakes. Ms. Mueller was in favor of a nature-
oriented park and felt they are preferred.
Tim Flanagan, 34305 Santa Clara Way, stated the name of
Larwin Park should be changed, since that developer has
not been in the area for a long time. He said the tennis
courts would ruin the view if not put below the street
level.
Commissioner Lawson returned to the dais at 7:55 p.m.
stated he had been briefed by staff as to what had
transpired while he was absent from the meeting.
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Lillian Katell, 3692 Medford Court, asked whether a
swimming pool was considered, as she felt that would be
something that should be included.
Arthur Wood, 2697 Vancouver, spoke regarding the
powerlines and the effect of EMF. He felt this was a
problem for this park and added his support for Plan C.
William Hosmer, 2401 Sonora Court, spoke in favor of a
passive park.
Charles Machlin, 2740 Waterbury Way, stated he thought
the process was a model one and the merits of the problem
should be considered and then go on from there.
Lawrence M. Hicks, 3400 Santa Clara Way, inquired about
the traffic signal at Santa Clara that was proposed in
February being eliminated.
Bob Johnson, Traffic Engineer, stated that the decision
of the City Engineer was to have a traffic signal, but
with the down-scaling of the park, if recommendation C
were accepted, staff would have to re-consider the merits
of the project at that time.
Mr. Hicks stated that the two tennis courts should be
lower than the street, and he would request that the
lights be focused down to not block the view of the Ocean
or the trees.
Miriam Lerner, 3355 Concord Street, stated that the
traffic on Carlsbad Village Drive is heavy, and to turn
right is difficult and a left turn would be a disaster.
She said that Plan C is the best plan, but it may be a
waste of money.
Don Woodard, 22515 Via Esparto, stated he would like to
see the park there, but was concerned about the cost. He
also felt the EMF was a hazard to be considered as
transmission powerlines are the fifth most hazardous out
of 33 sources surveyed.
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DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS : (Continued)
Arnold Muellar, 2641 Vancouver Street, stated that
warning signs should be posted to warn children about the
hazards of flying kites, the trails with snakes and
caution about the danger of fires. He also felt it was
dangerous to cross Elm (Carlsbad Village Drive) in the
evening. He suggested using part of the acreage at Lake
Calavera for playing fields.
David Bradstreet stated that there are a lot of
constrained areas at Lake Calavera and there is no room
for other than the golf course.
Paul Santy, 2693 Vancouver Street, stated that parking
and traffic could be a problem. He stated that the tot
lot shown on Plan C would be behind his house, and he
would ask that it be re-located into another spot, due to
the noise that would create.
George Moldovan, 3679 Vancouver, relinquished his time,
since most subjects had been covered.
Since no one else wished to speak. Chairperson Welshons
closed the public testimony at 8:30 p.m.
RECESS;
Chairperson Welshons declared a Recess at 8:30 p.m., and the
Commission re-convened at 8:35 p.m., with all Commissioners
present.
(Continued)
Commissioner Lawson reiterated that he had been briefed by
staff and asked the Commission to determine whether or not
he should abstain on this matter. The unanimous consensus
of the Commission was that he should be allowed to
participate in the discussion and vote.
David Bradstreet stated that a passive park is within the
guidelines and meets the needs, and there is a plan to
mitigate that. By not developing this park, this would
create additional problems.
The Parks and Recreation Commission directed staff to
return with more information and specific recommendations
(Plan D), including looking offsite for ballfields.
8. AB *891-8 SCULPTURE PARK UPDATE (INFO)
John Cahill gave the staff report, using slides to show
.the park area.
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DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS; (Continued) ~~
The following Agenda Items were continued to the September
Meeting, due to the late hour.
12. AB #891-12 NAMING OF PARK SITES
13. AB #891-13 BEACH PARKING ISSUE
14. AB #891-14 MAGNOLIA SITE DEVELOPMENT REPORT UPDATE
COMMITTEE REPORTS;
Open Space Advisory Committee
Chairperson Welshons reported there will be a public meeting
September 26, 1991, 6:00 p.m., at the Safety Center.
Cultural Facilities Citizen Committee
No report.
Alta Mira Park
Commissioner Lawson reported there will be a meeting
tomorrow night for the review of the final three proposals.
AGENDA ITEMS FOR SEPTEMBER 16, 1991, COMMISSION MEETING:
Timelock Gate (if staff feels appropriate)
Letters Mrs. Wood put in the paper regarding survey (for
discussion)
How to mitigate what is happening with Larwin Park.
Chairperson Welshons stated the deadline for Agenda Items
will be Friday, September 6, 1991.
ADJOURNMENT;
By proper motion, the Meeting of August 19, 1991, was
adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
Respect fully^submitted,...,
Harriett Babbitt
Minutes Clerk
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