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Home My WebLink About1991-11-18; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMINUTES Meeting of: Time of Meeting: Date of Meeting: Place of Meeting: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION 5:00 P.M. November 18, 1991 City Council Chambers COMMISSIONERS CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Welshons called the Meeting to order at 5:04 p.m. ROLL CALL: Present: Chairperson Welshons, Commissioners Castner, Finnila, Knox, Lawson and Strayer. Absent: Commissioner Ward. Staff Members Present: David Bradstreet, Director, Parks and Recreation Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst Doug Duncanson, Park Superintendent Connie Beardsley, Arts Manager Dave Miliken, Recreation Supervisor APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The Minutes of the Meeting held October 21, 1991, were approved as amended. It was the general consensus of the Commission to consider the October and November Summary Reports at the December meeting. PUBLIC OPEN FORUM: There were no requests to address the Commission on non-agenda items. PRESENTATIONS: Joan Kindle presented a check in the amount of $400 to the City from the Carlsbad Evening Rotary Club for the Carrillo Ranch Trust Fund. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: The Agenda for November 18, 1 991 , was approved as printed. CONSENT CALENDAR: Commissioner Strayer requested Items #AB 1191-3 and AB 1191-4 be removed from the Consent Calendar. The Parks and Recreation Commission affirmed the action of the Consent Calendar, with the exception of Items #3 and #4, as follows: Welshons Castner Finnila Knox Lawson Strayer Welshons Castner Finnila Knox Lawson Strayer Welshons Castner Finnila Knox Lawson Strayer X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION November 18,1991 Page 2 COMMISSIONERS WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING: The Parks and Recreation Commission waived the reading of Agenda Items at this meeting. 1. AB #1191 -1 DIRECTOR'S REPORT (INFO) To accept and file Director's Report for October-November 1991. 2. AB #1191-2 GENERAL PLAN UPDATE/SURVEY QUESTIONS (ACTION) For informational review of recreation survey questions submitted for the General Plan update. 3. AB #1191-3 JOHN MITCHELL LETTER/HOURS OF OPERATION STAGECOACH PARK (INFO) This item was removed from the Consent Calendar. 4. AB #1191-4 LARWIN PARK CITIZEN SURVEY/PETITION (INFO) This item was removed from the Consent Calendar. ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR: 3. AB #1191-3 JOHN MITCHELL LETTER/HOURS OF OPERATION STAGECOACH PARK (INFO) Dave Millikan, Recreation Supervisor II, reviewed Mr. Mitchell's concerns regarding Stagecoach Park relating to restroom availability and the hours of operation of the community center/gymnasium. 4. AB #1191-4 LARWIN PARK CITIZEN SURVEY/PETITION (INFO) Dave Bradstreet, Parks and Recreation Director, responded to Commissioner Strayer's concerns relating to the boundaries and the time frame of the Larwin report returning to the Commission for consideration. DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS: 5. AB #1191-5 DISPLAY OF ART WORK WITHIN PARK SITES Dave Bradstreet, Parks and Recreation Director, requested Connie Beardsley, Arts Manager, to respond to the Commissioners questions regarding the solicitation and selection of art objects and pieces. Connie Beardsley reported that the permanent art work is reviewed by a committee which has a Parks and Recreation Commissioner member on the committee. Welshons Castner Finnila Knox Lawson Strayer Welshons Castner Finnila Knox Lawson Strayer MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION November 18, 1991 Page 3 COMMISSIONERS 6. Ms. Beardsley stated that the artist and subcontractor are responsible for the installation of all art work relating to temporary pieces, and the contract specifically states that the park area must be returned to the original condition prior to installation of any exhibits. Connie Beardsley responded to Commissioner Welshons' inquiry regarding staff time involved in maintaining the exhibits by stating that there was no time spent on the part of staff for maintenance of any art exhibits. Ooug Duncanson, Park Superintendent, answered Chairperson Welshons' questions with regard to insurance liability, by stating that the artist was required to furnish any insurance necessary for exhibits. Connie Beardsley responded to Commissioners' concerns relating to selection of temporary or permanent art pieces, designs, conformity of art objects, and the possibility of designated areas in parks. Dave Bradstreet informed the Commission that Ms. Beardsley had written a book entitled, "Art in the Public Place" that contained site selection guidelines. Commissioner Strayer voiced his concern with placing signs on art exhibits that state "do not climb" as those signs could pose a challenge to children to climb on an art object. He also stated that temporary exhibits should be of good quality construction. Ms. Beardsley stated that all locations are selected prior to the art piece being designed. There was no public comment. The Commission directed Parks and Recreation staff to review designs of temporary or permanent artwork prior to placement at any location, and to submit their recommendation to the Commission for approval. AB #1191-6 CONCERNS RELATED TO SPECIAL EVENT PROGRAMS AT PARK SITES (INFO) Commissioner Strayer spoke regarding SEPs (Special Event Permits) at the park level. Staff responded by stating that SEPs at Stagecoach Park, for the most part, are only required because of the parking problem. Parking spills over to the bike lanes that run on Camino de Los Coches. Commissioner Knox requested the continuance of this item to the January meeting because key staff members involved were not present tonight. Welshons Castner Finnila Knox Lawson Strayer MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION November 18,1991 Page 4 COMMISSIONERS Jim Welsh, 263 Chapalita Drive, Encinitas, representing the Encinrtas Unified School District Education Foundation, agreed with the Commission to continue this item to January 1992. The Commission directed staff to continue this item to the January meeting. 7. AB#1191-7 AGUA HEDIONDA LAGOON (ACTION) Dave Bradstreet, Parks and Recreation Director, and Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst, gave the Commission an historic overview relating to construction, lease agreements, transfer of operation from Police Department to Parks and Recreation Department, various programs in effect, dredging data, Snug Harbor and Bristol Cove, insurance requirement, and responded to the concerns of the Commission. In addition, Mr. Bradstreet spoke on recent communication between the City and the California State Department of Boating and Waterways, as well as San Diego Gas and Electric Company's intent to acquire permits to dredge the inner and middle portions of the lagoon. Commissioner Lawson stated that the fiscal impacts regarding the lagoon are approximately $50,000 to run the program, and made reference to the possibiity to get out of the lagoon business, position of counsel and the Commission is that it provides a means of enjoyable recreation. Staff informed the Commission that Dr. Sarkaria and the Bristol Cove management require insurance. Commissioner Castner inquired as to the percentage of Carlsbad residents using the lagoon. Dave Bradstreet responded by stating that in 1989 47% of the permits applied for were from residents, and that 53% were from non-residents. In 1990, 51 % of the permits were from residents, while 49% were for non-residents. Chairperson Welshons opened the discussion to include public comment. Keith Maler, 4519 Cove Drive, #7, Bristol Cove, stated that property tax and sales tax are generated from use of the lagoon which benefits the City. He also informed the Commission that the Bristol Cove Board was in the process of performing a maintenance dredge in their area and was not in favor of the City eliminating boating permits. Greg Rusing, 4215 Harrison Street, Snug Harbor, supported the continuance of boating permits. Chairperson Welshons closed public comment. MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION November 18,1991 Pages COMMISSIONERS The Parks and Recreation Commission supported staff recommendation on the draft Agenda Bill, which stated that the Council adopt a resolution rescinding the November 5,1980 supplement to the agreement between the City and Dr. Sarkaria to relieve the operators of the obligation not to launch any boat on the lagoon without insurance, which names the City as an additional insured. It is further recommended that the City leave the existing lagoon ordinance and regulations in place and direct staff by motion, to initiate steps to amend the lease with SDG&E by eliminating the middle portion of the lagoon and continuing to lease the inner portion only. AB #1191 -8 CITIZEN REQUEST FOR TIME LOCK GATE AT THE OCEAN AVENUE BEACH ACCESSWAY (ACTION) Mr. Beverly gave the staff report on a citizen request to install a time lock gate at the Ocean Avenue beach accessway. A motion to direct staff to proceed to City Council for approval to apply for a coastal development permit for the installation of a time lock gate was as follows: Due to the split decision, it was recommended that this item be presented at the December meeting for further consideration and a resolution to the split vote. AB #1191-9 CITIZEN REQUEST REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALTA MIRA PARK (ACTION) Keith Beverly reviewed the report and responded to the Commission's inquiries. Chairperson Welshons opened public comment. George Rogers, applicant, 6749 Russelia Court, Carlsbad, urged the Commission to approve his request, and gave an overview of his request to add golf links to Alta Mira Park and referred to an artist's design of the park with golf links shown. Commissioner Knox asked if Price Club were in agreement, did staff know if funds were available for development of a golf course. Chairperson Welshons closed public comment. Commissioner Knox asked rf the City had any tentative locations for an executive golf course. Welshons Castner Finnila Knox Lawson Strayer Welshons Castner Finnila Knox Lawson Strayer X X MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION November 18, 1991 Page 6 COMMISSIONERS Dave Bradstreet informed the Commission of the areas that are under consideration, but that no executive course had been approved by the City Council. Keith Beverly informed the Commission that staff did not have the time to work on this project at the moment, but would pursue the matter if the Commission so directed. Discussion ensued regarding the procedure needed to get Mr. Roger's plans to a park architect. The Commission denied the request to establish a public park golf course at Alta Mira Park. 1 0. AB #1 1 91 -1 0 CITIZEN REQUEST TO ESTABLISH LIFEGUARD SERVICE ALONG THE BEACH ADJACENT TO OCEAN STREET (ACTION) Keith Beverly reviewed the staff report. Mr. Beverly also responded to Commissioner Finnila's inquiries regarding possible negotiations with the state to provide lifeguard service for the two mile area in question, sand altering, and the possibility of jet ski patrol. Chairperson Welshons opened public comment. Pete Biltchik, 352 Christiansen Way, Carlsbad, stated that this was the only area in San Diego County that was not guarded, and that the City had a moral and political obligation to provide lifeguard service. Mr. Biltchik responded to Commissioner Finnila's inquiry regarding jet ski guards rather than tower guards, by stating that he preferred tower guards. Chairperson Welshons closed public comment. Commissioner Castner stated that the City did have a moral obligation to provide guard service and suggested that this item be referred back to staff to research the cost of the jet ski/guard service and ways to find additional funding. COMMITTEE REPORTS: Recreation Survey Subcommittee Commissioners Finnila and Lawson reported on the recent meeting. Welshons Castner Finnila Knox Lawson Strayer Welshons Castner Finnila Knox Lawson Strayer X X X X X X X X X X X X X X MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION November 18,1991 Page 7 COMMISSIONERS Carrillo Ranch Commissioners Welshon and Strayer stated they would be attending the upcoming meeting. Open Space Advisory Committee Chairperson Welshons gave an update on the recent meeting. Alta Mira Selection Process Commissioner Lawson reported on the progress of the selection process. Batting Cages Commissioner Knox informed the Commission on the status of the proposed batting cages. ADJOURNMENT: By proper motion, the Regular Meeting of November 18,1991, was adjourned at 8:12 p.m. Respectfully submitted Isabelle Paulsen Minutes Clerk Welshons Castner Finnila Knox Lawson Strayer