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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-09-21; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMinutes of: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION Time of Meeting: 5:00 P.M. Date of Meeting: September 21, 1992 Place of Meeting: CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Castner called the Regular Meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. ROLL CALL: Present: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Heineman, Lawson, and Strayer Absent: (2ommissioner Ward Staff Members Present: David Bradstreet, Director, Parks and Recreation Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst Ken Price, Recreation Superintendent John Cahill, Municipal Projects Manager Gail Watts, Recreation Supervisor APPROVAL OF MINUTES: ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Heineman, the Minutes of the Regular Meeting held August 17, 1992, were approved as printed. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, and Heineman NOES: None ABSTAIN: Commissioners Lawson and Strayer ABSENT: Commissioner Ward PRESENTATIONS; There were no presentations made. PUBLIC OPEN FORUM: There were no requests to address the Commission. Parks and Recreation Commission - 2 - September 21,1992 APPROVAL OF AGENDA: ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Strayer, the Agenda for September 21, 1992 was approved as printed. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Heineman, Lawson and Strayer NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Ward CONSENT CALENDAR 1. AB #992-1 DIRECTOR'S REPORT To accept and file Director's Report for September - October 1992. 2. AB #992-2 SUMMARY REPORT To approve, accept and file the summary report of the August Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting. ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Heineman, Item AB #992-1 and AB #992-2 of the Consent Calendar for September 21, 1992, were approved as printed. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Heineman, Lawson and Strayer NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Ward PUBLIC HEARINGS: None. DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS: 3. AB #992-3 GOLF COURSE UPDATE Chairman Castner explained that he requested an update from the staff since he was unable to answer questions raised by members of the community. After some discussion, it was decided that this item would be an action item. Dave Bradstreet, Director, Parks and Recreation, explained that there was no Parks and Recreation Commission representation on the Citizen's Committee of the Golf Course and one needed to be selected. He indicated that staff was in a position of wait, primarily until the decision of the listing of the gnatcatcher was finalized. Mr. Bradstreet indicated that once the status of the gnatcatcher was determined, more Parks and Recreation Commission -3- September 21,1992 analysis and recommendations would be made whether or not to move forward with the development of the golf course. He discussed mitigation in detail. Mr. Bradstreet mentioned that in addition to the environmental issue, there were other concerns, including access to the site and water. He indicated that staff was looking at other alternatives. He addressed the issue of the county land at the airport for the second golf course and mentioned the possibility of a privatization approach. Mr. Bradstreet explained that approximately half the amount of the money allocated to date for the golf course has been spent on studies and the rest of the money is in an enterprise fund collecting interest. John Cahill, Municipal Projects Manager, discussed the project in more detail, indicating that due to environmental constraints, it was a very difficult project in terms of obtaining permits. He included in his discussion: The City owns the land. Staff is looking at 3-4 other alternative locations. The project is alive but still has the same problems as 2-3 years ago. An explanation of what would have to be done if the gnatcatcher was listed. The project is on hold until the gnatcatcher issue is resolved. Discussion of the City-wide habitat plan and how it would affect this site. Money will be available to buy a site but then the project would have to turned over to privatization to develop and run it. A description of a similar situation in Escondido. In response to queries from the Commission, Mr. Cahill also discussed: Concerns about water. Cannon Road and how it was dependent upon private development. Mr. Cahill indicated that the area by the airport was also impacted by the coastal sage issue. Commissioner Heineman brought the Commission up-to-date on the habitat situation and pointed out that this site was a top priority on the possible permanent reserve list. Staff discussed the following in response to queries from the Commission: Clarification that if the gnatcatcher is placed on a restricted list, it would carry the same restrictions. Parks and Recreation Commission - 4 - September 21,1992 Explanation of why the project was put on hold if the gnatcatcher issue was only a "maybe." Date of a decision on the gnatcatcher. This site could be used in mitigation of other alternative sites being considered and discussed possibilities. Funds used for studies for the project would not go to waste since the studies could be used for other purposes, including the club house design, or the location of the executive course. Carlsbad Golf Association and their interest in the project. Golf Course Enterprise Fund and what would happen if the golf course did not go through. Timing for the completion of the golf course and the economics involved, including fee structure. Chairman Castner indicated that he thought it was highly unlikely that they would get the okay on the environmental impact. He was concerned that a lot had changed in the last four years: Cannon Road won't go through for a long time; water was a problem; and the economy was bad. Commissioner Lawson explained his frustrations and indicated that he didn't think there would be a favorable decision for the Lake Calavera site. Commissioner Strayer expressed his belief that the public and commissioners should be kept informed on the status of the golf course, especially the public since they had voted for the golf course. ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Lawson to accept and file the Golf Course Update. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Heineman, Lawson and Strayer NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Ward Commissioner Lawson agreed to serve on the Citizen's Committee. 4. AB #992-4 KRUGER HOUSE PROGRAM Ken Price, Recreation Superintendent, presented the background information concerning the Kruger House Program. Parks and Recreation Commission - 5 - September 21,1992 Gail Watts, Recreation Supervisor, gave a slide presentation on the program. She discussed the background of the program as outlined in the report submitted to the Commission, including the developmental program, how often the classes meet, class requirements, and the current Fall registration programs. She also explained that the Fall registration procedures were revised. In response to queries from the Commission, Ms. Watts discussed the following: The fee structure. Discussed how non-residents helped to support the program during difficult economic times. A Carlsbad resident explained that the Commission should look closely at involvement of Carlsbad residents in the Carlsbad programs. He stated that non- residents had been given priority in registration for programs at the most popular time slots and that Carlsbad residents should not be bumped by out-of-city residents. Chairman Castner indicated that he had a problem with priority 2 in that he felt that residents of Carlsbad should have first choice. Commissioner Heineman expressed his agreement with Chairman Castner. Commissioner Finnila explained that she agreed with their logic but expressed concern for the non-resident child who might be bumped from the developmental program after attending for a few years and would be forced to go elsewhere. Chairman Castner expressed concern about programs at other Carlsbad facilities. Commissioner Heineman agreed with him. Commissioner Lawson stated that the priority should be Carlsbad only and that he would be in favor of swapping priority 3 for priority 2. Commissioner Strayer also expressed agreement. Commissioner Finnila said that she was in agreement but that bumping a non-resident child from the program should be considered. Commissioner Strayer suggested including a grandfather clause so that children already in attendance would not be affected. Commissioner Heineman stated that this policy should extend to other programs, and Commissioner Finnila said that she felt this was premature since it wasn't an agenda item at this time. A motion was made by Commissioner Heineman, moving that the Parks and Recreation Department observe a policy for all its programs, giving preference to Carlsbad residents. Parks and Recreation Commission -6-September 21,1992 Further discussion was held as to whether or not to include the preference for Carlsbad resident in all the programs. After review by members of the Commission, the motion was amended. ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Heineman, at direction of the Commission, the future registrations in the day care program will be based without fail on preference to Carlsbad residents which would involve changing Priority #3 (Carlsbad residents not currently enrolled) to Priority #2 (Non-residents currently enrolled). Those currently enrolled will be grandfathered in this particular case. AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Heineman, Lawson and Strayer NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Ward Commissioner Strayer indicated that Kruger House should notify non-residents that they have the possibility of being bumped from the program. COMMITTEE REPORT: 1. Carrillo Ranch Subcommittee Chairman Castner reported on the Carrillo Ranch Subcommittee, explaining that the EIR should be available in 2-3 weeks. He discussed the unresolved issues, and Mr. Bradstreet explained that a representative from Rick Engineering informed them that the park proposal was on hold. Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst, described his meeting with Bob Ladwig and indicated that the proposal may be amended. AGENDA ITEMS FOR OCTOBER: None. ADJOURNMENT ACTION: AYES: NOES: ABSENT: On motion by Commissioner Strayer, to adjourn the Regular Meeting at 6:25 p.m. Chairman Castner, Commissioners Finnila, Heineman, Lawson and Strayer. None Commissioner Ward Respectfully submitted, ^>e^cyO J!^2^ iuth Stark, Minutes Clerk