HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-01-18; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMinutes of: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Time of Meeting: 5:00 P.M.
Date of Meeting: January 18, 1993
Place of Meeting: CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Castner called the Regular Meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes, Ward
and Strayer
Absent: Commissioner Cox
Staff Members Present:
David Bradstreet, Director, Parks and Recreation
Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst
Ken Price, Recreation Superintendent
Robin Bettin, Recreation Supervisor
John Cahill, Municipal Projects Manager
Don Rideout, Senior Management Analyst, Growth Management Program
Mark Steyaert, Park Development Coordinator
Dee Landers, Planning Department
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Ward, the Minutes of the Regular
Meeting held December 21, 1992, were approved.
AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes,
Ward and Strayer
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Cox
PRESENTATIONS:
There were no presentations made.
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PUBLIC OPEN FORUM:
Mr. Bailey Noble, Carlsbad, advised the Commission that the Planning Commission
would be discussing dredging the Lagoon on Wednesday evening and asked for
input before that meeting.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Ward, the Agenda for
January 18, 1993 was approved as printed.
AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes,
Ward and Strayer
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Cox
Commissioner Cox arrived at 5:05 p.m.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. AB #193-1 DIRECTOR'S REPORT
To accept and file Director's Report for January 1993.
2. AB #193-2 SUMMARY REPORT
To approve, accept and file the Summary Report of the December 1992
Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Holmes, Item AB #193-1, and
AB #193-2 of the Consent Calendar for January 18, 1993,
were approved as printed.
AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes,
Ward, Cox and Strayer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
None.
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DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS:
3. AB #193-3 GOLF COURSE UPDATE
John Cahill, Municipal Projects Manager, presented the update on the municipal
golf course at Lake Calavera. He explained that City Council had requested staff to
look into alternate sites in the event that the Lake Calaveras site was not available
due to open space or conservation restraints. He stated that staff looked at five
alternative sites and briefed the Commission on the status. Mr. Cahill indicated
that City Council had authorized staff to take a more specific focus study on two
of the alternate sites.
Questions and discussion included the following issues:
• What would happen to the balance of the Kelly Ranch if the municipal
golf course was built on the property.
• Suitability of the raceway property.
• Plans for the Carltas property and why a resort golf course could not be
merged with a municipal one.
• Zoning on the raceway property and the Kelly Ranch property.
• Future schedule and when milestones would be accomplished.
• $650,000 spent so far on the Lake Calaveras site and assurances that
this amount of money would not be spent on reviewing the two
additional sites.
• Feasibility of expanding to Veteran Memorial Park from the Kelly Ranch
property, and that it might be a 27 hole course.
• Topographical and environmental restrictions of using County owned
property in the flight path at Palomar Airport as well as the intent to build
an executive golf course at the site.
• Explanation of why the Lake Calaveras property was suitable for a
municipal golf course and what would have to be done if the City had to
purchase property for a municipal golf course.
• $20,000-$25,000 cost of investigating sites and obtaining appraisals.
• Racetrack course would be smaller than the course would be at Lake
Calaveras. Also discussed overlay of Melrose.
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• Availability of reclaimed water at the racetrack site and what would have
to be done for the Kelly Ranch site.
• Purpose of a municipal golf course and who it would attract.
• The City would be the major landowner if the Kelly Ranch site was
selected.
• These are just concepts and staff is in the initial stages. It is still possible
that other property owners may come forward.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Strayer, the Golf Course Update
was accepted.
AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes,
Ward, Cox and Strayer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
4. AB #193-4 GROWTH MANAGEMENT UPDATE
Don Rideout, Senior Management Analyst, Growth Management Program,
explained that there are new ways of looking at growth management standards
since development previously predicted did not occur. He used the City
Administration Facilities as an example, and discussed supply and demand and
new projections. He summarized that the new concept presented to City Council
is to look at the idea of a five year period in terms of development impacts and
explained the changes. Mr. Rideout emphasized the need to look at the whole
program in a different way.
Questions and discussion included the following issues:
• Clarification of what the 2.471 and 2.3178 persons per dwelling unit
represented.
• Importance of looking at the size of the park from developers based on
population and also looking at buildout.
• Where affordable housing would fit into the cap.
• Concern that part of the ordinance may not be accomplished in a five
year period since only a small amount of homes were being built due to
the economic climate.
• Discussion of what would happen if the standard was not being met.
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• Clarification of density and how traffic standards would handle it with
density increases.
• Concern that properties should not be built out to maximum population to
satisfy meeting park dedication requirements and that maximum
development of properties should not be encouraged.
• What would happen if a builder did not build to maximum.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Strayer, the status report of the
Growth Management program was accepted.
AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes,
Ward, Cox and Strayer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
5. AB #193-5 PARKS AND RECREATION ELEMENT UPDATE
Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst, gave the staff presentation on this
item. He explained the history regarding the changes of the Parks and Recreation
Element and mentioned that the Parks and Recreation Element is a portion of the
General Plan Update. Mr. Beverly indicated the changes were not dramatic ones
but rather changes in the language. He mentioned that modifications were made
to population figures and amounts requiring park acreage.
Mr. Beverly referred to the memo from the Planning Department dated January 7,
1993, which listed the changes in detail.
Questions and discussion included the following issues:
• Changes were made in this element to conform with all the other
elements of the General Plan.
• Suggestion that in the future sections be marked to clarify where
changes were made.
• Emphasis that there were no significant changes.
• Clarification of public/private ownership in Table 2 on page 25.
• Frequency of update to keep up with what is happening in the City.
• Buildout concerns and statistics.
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• Effect of revision of redevelopment master plan and encouraging and
monitoring development of small types of parks within the redevelopment
area.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Heineman, the revisions to the
Parks and Recreation Element of the General Plan were
approved.
AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes,
Ward, Cox and Strayer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
On order of the Chairman, the Commission recessed at 6:30 p.m.
On order of the Chairman, the Commission reconvened at 6:40 p.m.
6. AB #193-6 LEVANTE CENTER
Ken Price, Recreation Superintendent, gave the staff presentation on this item. He
explained that staff was authorized to pursue negotiations with the Encinitas
School District and amend the existing use agreement deed of the Levante Center
to the District. He stated the reasons behind the authorization and described the
background of the Levante Center. Mr. Price indicated that the public needs would
be met at Stagecoach and that the public could still use the Levante Park facility in
the evenings.
Questions and discussions included the following issues:
• What assurance the public would have to use the fields in the future and
the importance of incorporating it in the amended use agreement with the
Encinitas School District.
• Charges for use by the Encinitas School District.
• Importance of eliminating runaround for the public in using the facility.
• Effect of change in inventory.
• Change is in ownership, not use.
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ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Strayer, to pursue negotiations
amending the existing use agreement for Levante Center with
negotiation assurances that the general public will be able to
continue to use the facility.
AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes,
Ward, Cox and Strayer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
7. AB #193-7 REVISION OF FACILITY USE REGULATIONS
Ken Price gave the staff report on this item. He explained the need to update the
Parks and Recreation Facility Use Regulations. He discussed the most significant
changes, as outlined in the packet. This included the following:
• More specific liability insurance requirements.
• Additional facilities available for community use.
• Review and modification of application procedures, policies and
classifications of applicants.
• Increase in fees for Safety Center and staffing fee.
• Guidelines for car shows.
• Eliminating tennis tournament play at Stagecoach, Calavera and Laguna
Riviera Parks.
• Addition of elementary and junior high school athletic fields to fee
schedule.
Mr. Price indicated that a correction needed to be made to the Classification of
Applicants and Fees where Mira Costa should be included in Category D and not
Category C.
Questions and discussion included the following issues:
• What a user group has to do to apply for facility use.
• Possibility of risk management department supplying available source of
insurance and not leaving it up to the individual, and current policy of
what is made available to the public.
• Whether or not it was necessary that all requests change from 10 days to
14 days.
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ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Ward, to review and approve the
revised facility use regulations and recommend approval by the
City Council with the correction of two levels of leeway time.
AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes,
Ward, Cox and Strayer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
8. AB #193-8 COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS
The Commission discussed commissioner appointments on various committees.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Ward, to approve committees as
modified.
AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes,
Ward, Cox and Strayer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
9. AB #193-9 1988 ROBERTI-Z'BERG-HARRIS GRANT/SENIOR CENTER
BARBECUE
Keith Beverly gave the staff presentation on this item. He explained the history of
the Roberti-Z'berg grant funding and the recommendation by the City Council and
State Parks and Recreation to construct a barbecue facility at the Senior Center but
added that it has been suggested that the funds go to another project instead.
He explained the alternatives in detail, which included light replacement in Chase
Field, field enhancement at Aviara Oaks school, Tot Lot improvements to meet
A.D.A. requirements, and funding be applied to first phase development of
Poinsettia Community Park. Mr. Beverly emphasized the importance of private
donations being included as part of the grant requirement.
Questions and discussions included the following issues:
• Estimate of the cost of the project at Aviara Oaks and what would be
required for the fields.
• Possibility of getting a private contract to help fund the project at Aviara
Oaks.
• Requirements for grant approvals.
• Concern for replacement of lights at Chase Field and whether or not
funds could be obtained from other sources absorbed in maintenance and
operating costs.
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• Timing of approvals.
• Concern that building of the school at Aviara Oaks will destroy fields.
• Explanation of why the City Council approved the barbecue pit for the
Senior Center.
• Importance of alleviating pressure on Levante Park.
• Possibly using $1,500 of funding towards lights at Chase Field.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Heineman to approve the project
to obtain approval of the grant funds for the Aviara Oaks field
enhancement in conjunction with the La Costa Youth
Organization.
AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes,
Cox and Strayer
NOES: Commissioner Ward
ABSENT: None
COMMITTEE REPORT:
1 . Carrillo Ranch Subcommittee
Chairman Castner reported on the Carrillo Ranch subcommittee and discussed the
disagreement with developers as to how much land is due the City by the builders.
AGENDA ITEMS FOR FEBRUARY:
1 . Carrillo Ranch Parkland Dedication
2,. Tot Lot request/S.W. Quadrant
ADJOURNMENT
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Ward to adjourn the Regular
Meeting at 8:00 p.m.
AYES: Chairman Castner, Commissioners Heineman, Lawson, Holmes,
Ward, Cox and Strayer
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Respectfully submitted,
(utn Stark
Minutes Clerk
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