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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
5:30 P.M.
June 16, 1997
City Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Baker called the Regular Meeting to order at 5:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Baker, Commissioners Cunningham, Richards, Cox and Pieratt
Absent: Commissioners Schulberg and Davidson
Staff Members Present:
Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst
Ken Price, Recreation Superintendent
Mark Steyeart, Park Development Coordinator
Doug Duncanson, Park Superintendent
ANNOUNCEMENTS
None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Richards, the Minutes of the
Regular Meeting held on May 19, 1997, were approved
as printed.
AYES: Chairperson Baker, Commissioners Cunningham, Richards, and Cox
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Pieratt
ABSENT: Commissioners Schulberg and Davidson
PRESENTATIONS
None.
PUBLIC OPEN FORUM
None.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Pieratt, the Agenda for June 16, 1997
was approved as corrected.
AYES: Chairperson Baker, Commissioners Cunningham, Richards, Schulberg,
Cox, and Pieratt
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Schulberg and Davidson
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CQNSEMI CALENDAR
1- AB #697-1 DIRECTOR'S REPORT
To accept and file the Director's Report for June 1997.
2. AB #697-2 SUMMARY REPORT
To approve, accept and file the Summary Report of the May 1997 Parks and Recreation
Commission Meeting.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Pieratt, Items AB #697-1 and AB #697-2 of
the Consent Calendar for June 16, 1997 were approved.
AYES: Chairperson Baker, Commissioners Cunningham, Richards, Cox, and
Pieratt
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Schulberg and Davidson
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS
3. AB #697-3 ROLLER HOCKEY/SKATING RINK DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL
Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst, gave the staff presentation on this item. He
explained that this item was brought before the Parks and Recreation Commission as a result
of a request made by an interested private party to develop a roller hockey/skating rink at a
Carlsbad park. He clarified that originally the request was made for any of the Carlsbad park
sites, but added that now the attention was being focused on Poinsettia Community Park.
Don Schlesinger and Bill Berghoff of Sportsplex USA spoke on behalf of the private
organization interested in developing the roller hockey/skating rink facility. Mr. Slessinger
referred to their letter sent to the City of Carlsbad, which was included in the Commissioners'
packets. He explained that he was a lawyer who was working with a partner in Las Vegas to
develop a $5,000,000 sports park and described what will be included.
Mr. Berghoff summarized his background and described the facility that he and his father
operate in Poway. He added that they will be adding a roller hockey rink at the facility in Poway
and mentioned the San Clemente facility as well. He stated that the public/private operation of
the Carlsbad facility would be a win-win situation for both parties.
Mr. Schlesinger presented statistics on roller hockey in the U.S. and stated that there was a
great need for this type of facility. He outlined the details of the facility, including the size, sport
court flooring, pro style dasher board system, electronic Scoreboard, hockey shooting gallery,
changing areas, etc.
Mr. Schlesinger stated that the main advantage of the public/private partnership for the facility
was that it usually accelerated the timeline for constructing public recreational facilities. He
described various uses, both youth and adult, for the facility, and distributed materials to show
photos of other sites.
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Mr. Berghoff added that public/private partnerships were the way of the future and referred to
Chicago privatizing their golf courses. He stated that his company would build the facility, run it,
and maintain it, and assured the Commissioners that it would be a first class facility.
Questions and discussion included the following issues:
• The ability to play different sports on the sports court type of flooring
• Clarification that the park in Poway is a city park
• The possibility of the City having to advertise and undergo competitive bidding process if
this request was made by a private party
• Public hearing requirements
• The importance of a private company following guidelines set by the City such as waiving
fees for residents, etc.
• A review of what was planned for Phase 2 of Poinsettia Community Park
• The pros and cons of including a skateboard park
• Further description of the facility in San Clemente
• Projections of gross revenue
• The availability of staff on-site
• The possibility of people using the facility outside normal operating hours
• The establishment of a sub-committee to investigate further and report back to the Parks
and Recreation Commission on the issues
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Cox, AB #697-3, to direct staff to investigate
further legal and procedural issues and to establish a sub-committee to
investigate the roller hockey concept and liability issue.
AYES: Chairperson Baker, Commissioners Cunningham, Richards, Cox, and
Pieratt
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Schulberg and Davidson
Chairperson Baker and Commissioners Pieratt and Davidson were appointed to serve on the
sub-committee.
4. AB #697-4 VETERAN'S MEMORIAL PARK MASTER PLAN UPDATE
Mark Steyeart, Park Development Coordinator, described the history and background of this
item, as contained in the Commissioners' packets. He outlined what occurred since the existing
Macario Master Plan was originally completed in 1981 and stated that there were some new
factors affecting the Plan, including expansions of the riparian creek vegetation, changes in
recreational trends, the inclusion of the golf course, and the inclusion of wetland mitigation for
Cannon Road. He summarized by stating that there were many issues that should be reviewed.
Questions and discussion included the following issues:
• Update on the $28,000,000 amount that represented construction loan payments for 1998
and the amount of money collected for the park to date
• Clarification of why a request was made for an update on Veteran's Memorial Park
• Explanation of the park's proximity to Legoland
• The timing for the South Shore Planning Study
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• An approximate cost for updating the plan for Veteran's Memorial Park
• The importance of an update showing new impacts since the previous plan
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Richards, AB #697-4, to direct staff to
prepare a minimal cost update in words and in graphics of the Veteran's
Memorial Park Plan and its relationships to the Agua Hedionda Lagoon,
Legoland, the Carlsbad Golf Course, etc., such update to be started
soon.
AYES: Chairperson Baker, Commissioners Cunningham, Richards, Cox, and
Pieratt
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Schulberg and Davidson
COMMITTEE REPORTS
Chairperson Baker updated the Parks and Recreation Commission on the Skateboard
Committee.
Mark Steyeart announced that Carrillo Ranch will have an open house July 23rd in the Senior
Center.
AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING
It was decided that the July meeting of the Parks and Recreation Commission would be
cancelled.
ADJOURNMENT
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Cunningham to adjourn the Regular Meeting
at 7:15 p.m.
AYES: Chairperson Baker, Commissioners Cunningham, Richards, Cox, and
Pieratt
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Schulberg and Davidson
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth Stark
Minutes Clerk
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