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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-11-18; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesI Minutes of: Time of Meeting: Date of Meeting: Place of Meeting: - ,"- PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION 530 P.M. November 18,2002 City Council Chambers CALL TO ORDER Chairman Pieratt called the Regular Meeting to order at 530 p.m. ROLL CALL Present: Chairman Pieratt, Commissioners Cunningham, Pacheco, Hubbard, and Comstock Absent: Commissioner Schulberg Staff Members Present: Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst John Cahill, Municipal Projects Manager Doug Duncanson, Deputy Public Works Director Mark Steyaert, Park Development Manager Lori Swenck, Recreation Area Manager Gail Lynn, Recreation Area Manager Scott Bradstreet, Park Planner Sue Spickard, Recreation Services Manager Gian Lauro, Recreation Area Manager Steve Herrera, Recreation Supervisor Kevin Granse, Recreation Supervisor Carol Pope, Aquatics Supervisor ANNOUNCEMENTS None. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Comstock, the Minutes of the Regular AYES: Chairman Pieratt, Commissioners Pacheco, Hubbard, and Comstock NOES: None ABSTAIN: Commissioner Cunningham ABSENT: Commissioner Schulberg Meeting held on October 28, 2002 were approved. PRESENTATIONS None. PUBLIC OPEN FORUM None. - Parks and Recreation Commission -2- November 18,2002 APPROVAL OF AGENDA - ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Comstock, the Agenda for AYES: Chairman Pieratt, Commissioners Cunningham, Pacheco, Hubbard, and NOES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioner Schulberg November 18,2002 was approved. Comstock CONSENT CALENDAR 1. AB #I 102-1 SUMMARY REPORT To accept, approve and file the Summary Report of the October 28,2002 Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting. ACTION: On motion by Chairman Pieratt, AB #I 102-1 was approved. AYES: Chairman Pieratt, Commissioners Cunningham, Pacheco, Hubbard, and NOES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioner Schulberg Comstock DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS John Cahill, Municipal Projects Manager, gave the staff presentation on this item, assisted by Scott Bradstreet, Park Planner. Mr. Cahill provided the background on this item, as contained in the Commissioners’ packets for the evening. He described the location and size of Alga Norte Community Park, and pointed out how close the park will be to other community parks. He outlined the budget and schedule for the park and defined the term “aquatics center”. He emphasized the importance of having a lot of flexibility in the Master Plan in order to accommodate different activities. 2. AB #I 102-2 ALGA NORTE COMMUNITY PARK MASTER PLAN Pat Caughey, Wimmer, Yamada, & Caughey, described the process involved in developing the Master Plan. He explained what was looked at, including existing conditions, which he described in detail. He clarified how input was received from the public at two community workshops and how that information was used. Mr. Caughey summarized the findings from the workshops which included the request for a swim complex, playing fields, skateboard park, open turf, and the public’s willingness to pay a nominal fee to use the swim complex. He displayed the proposed Master Plan and described it in detail. He added that there was an allowance for 520 vehicles for parking in several areas of the park. He described the pool area and pointed out the more passive areas where there would be no structural sports activities. Mr. Caughey reviewed ideas for a skate park and its location, indicated where a multi-hard court could be located, and described a proposed area for open play in the middle of the park. He pointed out a possible location of the playing field areas and amenities that could be - included. He added that a dog park could be located at the south edge of the park. Mr. 24 Parks and Recreation Commission -3- November 18,2002 Caughey also described the proposed maintenance facilities. (Commissioner Schulberg arrived at 5:45 p.m.) - He reviewed access to the park and clarified where pathways could be located. He referred to parking and explained why it was broken up, and added that there would be a landscape island and shade trees in the parking areas to avoid a “sea of asphalt” look for the parking lots. Mr. Caughey described how art could be used within the park and mentioned that a theme could be integrated into the park. He clarified that the purpose of the Master Plan was to include concepts of the Park but still allow opportunities to go into at the next stage. Questions and answers included the following issues: 0 Inclusion of a sand volleyball court 0 Repeated requests from the public for an aquatics center 0 Clarification of what should be included at the Master Pian stage 0 Description of potential picnic areas, shelters, and their locations 0 Composition of trails and how they could be used 0 Adequacy of parking allocation 0 Distinction between meters vs, yards for a pool 0 Discussion of multiple pools vs. one pool 0 Clarification of State Health Code requirements for pools Maintenance of pool(s) and cost recovery 0 Recreational vs. competitive use of pool(s) 0 Number of San Diego high schools with pools 0 Additional cost for a recreation pool 0 Importance of integrating all phases of a child’s learning of swimming in a pool complex Chairman Pieratt opened the public hearing. Fred Arbuckle, President, Morrow Development, explained that his group was developing the Villages of La Costa. He mentioned that he worked closely with City staff and explained that his company was working on a document to transfer the ownership of the land for the park to the City. He described the area being developed and indicated that he hoped the area would be under construction during the first quarter of next year. Mr. Arbuckle recommended that landscaping should be increased between Alicante and the parking lot to serve as a buffer. He referred to the edge of the riparian corridor, and suggested that the architecture of this park mirror that of Carrillo Park. He asked the Parks and Recreation Commission to adopt the Master Plan with his recommended modifications, and suggested developing a multi-pool complex rather than a single pool. Lisa Rodman, 3535 Simsbury Court, Carlsbad, explained that she would like to see the timeline moved up on the pool, have it a three pool complex, and requested that the plan be approved as stated that evening. She clarified that she had been trying to move the pool up for six years and described what had been done. She said she was disheartened to hear that only one pool was planned because it would not serve everyone. She pointed out that voters approved Proposition C and expected a three pool complex. Ms. Rodman added that the slide part was new but had its place and would be very well done. She asked the Parks and Recreation Commission to approve the pool so it would not disappear, requested that they look at three pools, and move the pool complex up on the timeline. I Parks and Recreation Commission -4- November 18,2002 Larry David, 6965 El Camino Real, Carlsbad, also concurred with Ms. Rodman, and explained that 13,000 people voted for Proposition C. He mentioned that the pool was a priority and wanted to know why a 50 meter pool was decided upon. He pointed out that he thought the current City pool was inadequate to meet the needs of the public. Mr. David emphasized that the pool complex needed more urgent study and that it should be built as soon as possible, especially since the City had the money in the bank to pay for the pool complex. Commissioner Comstock asked for clarification of the operating cost and if cost recovery would be an option. Mr. David said that water polo participants were willing to pay fees if necessary. Commissioner Comstock pointed out the importance of differentiating between school districts and cities. Mr. David responded that it was important to undertake a study to determine if there should be more than one pool. Chairman Pieratt closed the public hearing. Discussion included the following issues: Preference for matching the architecture of the park to Carrillo Park Interest in different compositions for trails Number of pools and cost recovery to make more than one pool viable Agreement that a buffer on the outside street of the park was preferable Recommendation for a study to determine if there should be more than one pool Addition of a dog friendly area would make Carlsbad a dog friendly city Timeline for construction of pool should be moved up Concept of the skateboard park was different and very good Suggestion that staff look at other aquatic areas Praise for staff Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst, summarized the comments made by the Parks and Recreation Commission to include the following: Endorse the Master Plan especially in light of Proposition C, move up funding of development of the Park, and build the aquatic center in the first phase. In the design of the aquatic complex: Evaluate a multi-pool complex and make that recommendation to City Council. Ancillary issues included: Benefits of shade structure in this park and other specimens to provide shade, walkway/trail area to include dg as well as concrete in the park, a landscape buffer along Alicante, and coordinate the architectural consistency of this park with the architecture of Carrillo Park. ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Cornstock, AB #I 102-2, to accept the Master Plan as presented with the following included: In light of the approval of Proposition C, construct the entire park complex, including the aquatics component, in one phase; 0 In designing the aquatic component, evaluate the benefit of and opportunity for a “multi pool” aquatic center for consideration by City Council; and walkway surfaces, enhancing the landscape buffer along Alicante, and making the park architecturally consistent with Carrillo Park. Address the ancillary issues which include shade, trail and AYES: Chairman Pieratt, Commissioners Schulberg, Cunningham, Pacheco, NOES: None ABSTAIN: None Hubbard, and Comstock