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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
May 17,2004
City Council Chambers
5130 P.M. .
. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Comstock called the Regular Meeting to order at 330 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Comstock, Commissioners Cunningham, Lyons, Hubbard, and Craig
Absent: Commissioners Pacheco and Schulberg
Staff Members Present:
Ken Price, Recreation Director
Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst
Mark Steyaert, Park Development Manager
Doug Duncanson, Public Works Deputy Director - General Services
Gian Lauro, Recreation Supervisor
Kevin Granse, Recreation Supervisor, Youth Sports
Mark Beasley, Recreation Supervisor
Lolly Sangster, Management Assistant
Gail Lynn, Recreation Area Manager
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Kevin Granse, Recreation Supervisor, Youth Sports, announced that the City of Carlsbad
received a Sportsmanship Award.
(Commissioner Schulberg arrived at 336 p.m.)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
ACTION:
AYES:
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
On motion by Commissioner Lyons, the Minutes of the Regular Meeting
held on April 19, 2004 were approved.
Chairman Comstock, Commissioners Schulberg, Cunningham, Lyons,
Hubbard, and Craig
PRESENTATIONS
Marc Beasley, Recreation Supervisor, updated the Parks and Recreation Commission on the
23rd Annual Triathlon. He described the events that were planned for the weekend and invited
the commissioners to attend.
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PUBLIC OPEN FORUM
None.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
ACTION:
AYES:
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
On motion by Commissioner Lyon.s, the Agenda for May 17,2004, was
approved.
Chairman Comstock,, Commissioners Schulberg, Cunningham, Lyons,
Hubbard, and Craig
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. AB #504-1 SUMMARY REPORT
To accept, approve and file the Summary Report of the April 19, 2004 Parks and Recreation
Commission Meeting.
2. AB #504-2 RECREATIONAL DEPARTMENT QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER
To accept and file the Recreation Department Newsletter.
ACTION:
AYES:
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
On motion by Commissioner Schulberg, AB #504-1 and AB #504-2 of the
Consent Calendar were approved.
Chairman Comstock,’ Commissioners Schulberg, Cunningham, Lyons,
Hubbard, and Craig
DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS
3. AB #504-3 RECREATION DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDED FACILITY FEE INCREASES
AND PROPOSED NEW FEES FOR FY 2004-2005
Keith Beverly, Senior Management Analyst, explained the procedure for proposing fee
increases and adding new fees relating to the operation of the Parks and Recreation
Department.
Lolly Sangster, Management Assistant, began the staff presentation by stating that staff’s intent
was to keep the fees in line with the current market. She described the annual review of the
facility fees and added that if the fees were’approved, they would be adopted on August 1,
2004. She clarified that the proposed fees covered gymnasium rentals, temporary
recreation/entertainment equipment, facility fees, picnic area fees, and fees for night lighting of
athletic fields.
Ms. Sangster described the classification of applicants. She then reviewed the current and
recommended fees for each of the five different areas and explained the reasons for staff’s
recommendations.
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Gian Lauro, Recreation Area Manager, continued the presentation by describing facility fees
and staff’s recommended changes. He referred to a survey that was conducted comparing
Carlsbad with other cities and commented that fees for some of the recreational facilities were
below market value. He discussed Harding Auditorium and Recreational Hall Fees for
Categories D through F and Heritage Hall Fees for Categories B through F in detail. He
described the proposed facility fee changes and outlined recommendations regarding the picnic
area fees, and fees at the Holiday Park Gazebo and Picnic Area, La Costa Canyon/Laguna
Riviera Parks, and Magee Park Open Space and Picnic Area.
Mr. Lauro then addressed fees for night lighting of the athletic fields and described
recommendations and justification for the fee changes. He displayed a chart showing a survey
conducted for day and night use for Resident Non-Profit Organizations. He explained that if the
Parks and Recreation Commission approved the recommended changes, the City would
receive approximately $56,000 to $67,000 more in revenue. He concluded by asking the Parks
and Recreation Commission to approve staff’s recommendations and forward the
Commission’s action to the City Council as part of the Carlsbad budget review process.
Questions and discussion included the following issues:
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Explanation of why staff was not recommending consistent increases in fees
Current use, if any, of the train depot as a visitor’s center
What happened to fees if the facility was not used when reserved
Whether 60% self-support status would be achieved if fees were increased
Chairman Comstock opened the public hearing.
Bob Ingersold, 6731 Follette Street, Carlsbad, explained that he was President of Carlsbad Pop
Warner. He expressed concern that if the lighting fees went into effect on August 1, 2004, then
his organization would not be able to sustain the increases since registration and payment for
activities had already taken place. He explained that his organization needed more warning for
fee increases. He then described what occurred in the past when lights were not always on in
the evening.
In answer to a query by Commissioner Cunningham, Mr. lngersold indicated that the additional
fees could amount to $1 5,000-$20,000. Mr. Lauro pointed out that based on the amount of
usage by Mr. Ingersold’s organization, the amount of the fee increase would be significantly
less. Mr. lngersold indicated that even if it was $5,000, it would be a problem.
Tom Compogiannis, 3468 Corte Clarita, Carlsbad, explained that he represented the Lightning
Soccer Club. He stated that the lighting fee would also affect his organizations since
registration fees were already established for the year. He added that it would cost
approximately $2,000-$3000 more for his organization and there was no way to absorb the
increase in fees. He pointed out that money was very limited and that it would be hard to raise
the extra money with no notice. Mr. Compogiannis asked the Parks and Recreation
Commission to delay the increase for a year.
In response to Commissioner’s Schulberg’s query, Mr. Compogiannis explained why it would
not be a good idea to request an extra $3.00 per person.
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Chairman Comstock asked for a timeline for setting the fees. Mr. Compogiannis responded that
fees would be set in January 2005.
Questions and discussion included the following issues;
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Clarification on the timeline for the City to increase fees
Possibility of waiving the increase in fees during this year and raising the fees higher
during 2005
Consideration of a two stage approach to raising fees
Cost of lighting fees and no light use during August and part of September
Recommendation to implement light fees on January 1, 2005, and to implement the fee
increase for everything else in line with the budget timeline
Commissioner Schulberg made a motion to accept staff’s report and recommendation. The
motion was not seconded.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Hubbard, AB #504-3, to accept staff’s
proposed fee changes with the exception of the light fees which will
become effective as of January 1,2005, and such fees to be increased to
$5 per hour.
Commissioners Schulberg, Cunningham, Lyons, Hubbard, and Craig AYES:
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Chairman Comstock
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
COMMllTEE /COUNCIL REPORTS
Chairman Comstock updated the Commission on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.
AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE COMMISSION MEETING
1. California legislation re paying volunteers prevailing wages
2. Collaboration with other groups to provide services
ADJOURNMENT
ACTION:
AYES:
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
On motion by Commissioner Schulberg to adjourn the Regular Meeting at
6:40 p.m.
Chairman Comstock, Commissioners Schulberg, Cunningham, Lyons,
Hubbard, and Craig
Resqectfully submitted, a
Ruth Stark, Minutes Clerk
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