HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006-05-15; Parks & Recreation Commission; MinutesMinutes of: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Time of Meeting: 5:30 P.M.
Date of Meeting: May 15, 2006
Place of Meeting: City Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Craig called the Regular Meeting to order at 5:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper, and
George
Absent: Commissioner Pacheco
Staff Members Present:
Ken Price, Recreation Director
Mark Steyaert, Park Development Manager
Sue Spickard, Recreation Services Manager
Kyle Lancaster, Parks Superintendent
Connie Ashby, Administrative Secretary
Kevin Granse, Recreation Supervisor
Gian Lauro, Recreation Area Manager
Bonnie Elliott, Recreation Area Manager
Mick Calarco, Recreation Area Manager, Carrillo Ranch
Lori Swenck, Recreation Area Manager
Erin Letsch, Risk Manager
Carl Pope, Aquatics Supervisor
Kelly Mauser, Recreation Specialist
Craddock Stropes, Recreation Community Coordinator
Cynthia Haas, Economic Development Manager
Rachael Shay, Recreation Supervisor for Special Events
Lisa Hildebrand, Assistant City Manager
Sandra Holder, Community Development Director
ANNOUNCEMENTS
None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Comstock, the Minutes of the Regular
Meeting held on April 17, 2006, were approved.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
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INTRODUCTIONS
Bonnie Elliott, Recreation Area Manager, introduced Rachael Shay, the new Recreation
Supervisor for Special Events and the Triathlon.
PRESENTATIONS
None.
PUBLIC OPEN FORUM
None.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Lyons, the Agenda for May 15, 2006, was
approved.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. AB #506-1 SUMMARY REPORT
To accept, approve and file the April 17, 2006 Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting
Summary Report
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Lyons, AB #506-1, of the Consent
Calendar, was approved.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS
2. AB #506-2 UPDATE ON CARLSBAD CIVIC CENTER - CONNECTING COMMUNITY.
PLACE AND SPIRIT
Sandra Holder, Community Development Director, discussed the importance of creating a
vibrant city center and the specific program elements that produced such a vibrant center. She
spoke about the importance of a multi-functional square and the need to rediscover art. She
explained that the Goal team looked at the Farmers Insurance building which was acquired by
the City and explained what was learned during a learning conference.
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Ms. Holder described the initial research and summarized the aspects of a greater vision. She
added that it was important for the group to visit various sites to get a feeling of some of the
better models in Southern California. She distributed the Connecting Community, Place and
Spirit Draft Guiding Principles to the Parks and Recreation Commission.
Cynthia Haas, Economic Development Manager, explained that research was not enough; the
group had to see what made those places special. She displayed slides of sites including
Agoura Hills, Balboa Park, Beverly Hills, Cerritos library, Culver City City Hall, Powerhouse
Park in Del Mar, Escondido Civic Center, Joan Kroc Center, Oceanside City Hall, Paramount,
Poway Civic Center, San Marcos, The Grove in L.A., Thousand Oaks Performing Center and
University Towne Center. She pointed out the good and bad features of each of these sites.
Lisa Hildebrand, Assistant City Manager, described the common themes that were found,
including sociality, variety of activities, accessibility, and comfort. She also discussed additional
ingredients such as community identity, sustainable uses and attributes, and other
enhancements. She talked about current trends multi-purpose technology, underground
parking, interactive and passive water features. She added that outdoor eating places were
very popular and entertainment was one way to get people into an area. Ms. Hildebrand
clarified that size did not matter and explained why.
Ms. Holder mentioned that they did not find one place with all the ideas and concepts. She
described a drawing by Michael Freedman. She displayed European slides which showed
areas where people congregated both during the day and in the evening. She also spoke
about the Scottsdale City Mall in detail.
Mark Steyaert, Parks Development Manager, described three Carlsbad site plan alternatives:
the Legoland Drive site, the North Flower Fields site, and the South Lagoon site. He reviewed
the group's desire to go to the next level: to determine what kind of physical form the concept
should be in the City of Carlsbad. He described what the vision might look like and showed
slides of the three sites, describing each site in detail.
Questions and discussions included the following issues:
• Clarification of what would be included
• Possible time frame
• Funds available in the CIP
• Ocean views from the North Flower Fields site
Gary Hill, 3289 Donna Drive, Carlsbad, said that if and when the civic center went forward that
it would have to be a joint venture with the Arts Commission, Parks and Recreation
Commission, Historic Commission and other groups. He added that they could look at which
aspects could be made for parks, partnering with culture and business commissions if the City
wanted to include coffee shops, restaurants, and non-profit groups such as museums and
churches. He indicated that they needed to figure out what Carlsbad should be.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Lyons, AB #506-2, to accept and file the
staff report.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
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Chairman Craig called a 10 minute recess at 6:35 p.m. The Parks and Recreation
Commission re-convened at 6:45 p.m.
3. AB #506-3 SPINNAKER HILL TOT LOT REPORT
Kyle Lancaster, Parks Superintendent, gave the staff report on this item. He explained the
purpose of the item, and read the recommended action. He summarized events regarding the
tot lot from July 1996 and added that there were considerable historical documents included
with the agenda bill. He explained where the site was located and showed photographs of the
site. He added that maps of the site were included in the Commissioners' packets for the
evening.
Mr. Lancaster reviewed conditions of the agreements. He mentioned that since 1991 and
1996, both Aviara and Poinsettia had tot lots constructed. He emphasized that traffic had
changed considerably on Batiquitos since the item was originally approved. He clarified that
today construction would not be considered for a tot lot through a busy street such as
Batiquitos Drive.
Mr. Lancaster explained that the tot lot was be installed and maintained at no cost to the city,
and must comply with the City's park standards and guidelines. He addressed insurance
issues, including the fact that insurance payments had been delinquent or lapsed in the past.
He added that at the current time there was no insurance coverage for the tot lot and that the
City was liable for full risk during lapses.
Mr. Lancaster addressed the insurance issue further and explained that Ms. Brink was having
difficulty obtaining insurance for the site. He mentioned that Ms. Brink wished to address the
Parks and Recreation Commission directly in order to request the consideration of accepting
the tot lot as a part of the City's Park inventory, thereby including it within the City's blanket
insurance protection. He explained that a certified inspector was hired to inspect the site and
found that the tot lot was not in compliance with conditions 4 and 5 of the agreement. He
displayed photos and reviewed what should have been present in order to meet those
conditions, as described in detail in the Commissioners' packets.
Erin Letsch, Risk Manager, clarified that the City was self-insured and that the only insurance
was excess coverage. She also explained the significance of self-insurance which included the
City's responsibility to design public facilities that met standards and explained why. She
described the importance of providing a safe environment and minimizing loss exposure. She
said that because the site was supposed to be at no cost to the City, it was her opinion that the
tot lot must be brought into compliance for safety and ADA requirements by the private group.
Ms. Diane Brink, 7207 Azalea Place, Carlsbad, questioned whether the previous presentation
regarding people meeting in an area would also have increased risks. She explained that 10
years ago the City allowed her to build a park on that land and that they were very adamant
that everything be in compliance. She added that she was able to get insurance, and passed
along a proposal to the commissioners. She said that she really wanted the tot lot to be safe.
She added that she had two children and made sure the fence was built so that it was hard for
them to go in the street. Ms. Brink stated that there was usually someone present to supervise
the children.
She emphasized that safety was important, that the total lot was in compliance but that rules
had changed, which resulted in her changing the swings once. She said that she only knew
about the changes from Mr. Lancaster for three days and that she was working to meet the
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requirements. She added that they were relatively minor and that she would make the
changes. She also described some other changes which could be made. Ms. Brink confirmed
that she wanted the tot lot to comply with regulations and that she would do what it would take
to bring it into compliance. She described the yearly fundraiser. She explained that insurance
was another subject because it was difficult for her to get insurance. She clarified why a
different market used Poinsettia Park. She proposed that the City help with insurance and she
would take care of the rest of the issues.
Bailey Noble, 5470 Los Robles Drive, Carlsbad, explained that he helped build Cannon Park
and that the City took this park over. He described what occurred and said that the cost for
insurance was horrible and the City stepped in to take the park. He asked the Commission to
look back at the past history of the tot lot and help the group obtain insurance.
Questions and discussions included the following issues:
• Lack of people/children at the tot lot when several of the commissioners went by
• Parking not available in the immediate area
• Traffic and safety concerns
• Clarification that the City owned the property as green space
• Complexity of the City deeding the parcel to a homeowner's association due to the tot
lot being part of a larger parcel
• Problems with the City taking responsibility of insuring the tot lot
• Concerns about the condition of the tot lot including the existence of an electrical box
with stagnant water around it and dirty swings.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Hubbard, AB #506-3, to deny a citizen's
(Diane Brink's) request to include the facility within the City's park
inventory and liability insurance coverage.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner George, that the Spinnaker Hill Tot Lot
closes until liability insurance is provided by the private party in a form
acceptable to the City of Carlsbad.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
Questions and discussions included the following issues:
• Steps that could be taken to publicize that the tot lot was closed
• Liability issues
• Suggestion that Ms. Brinks participate in monitoring the site
• Importance of stipulating a time frame for compliance
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ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Cooper, that by June 1, 2006, if the
insurance is not provided by the private party, then the Spinnaker Hill
Tot Lot will be dismantled.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Cooper, by July 1, 2006, if the insurance is
brought up to speed, the Spinnaker Hill Tot Lot must be brought up to
the City standards by July 1, 2006. If that is not taken care of, then the
Spinnaker Hill Tot Lot will be dismantled.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
4. AB #506-4 REVISIONS TO COUNCIL POLICY #28 - FEES:
FACILITIES/AQUATICS/FIELDS
Sue Spickard, Recreation Supervisor, and Bonnie Elliott, gave the staff presentation on this
item. Ms. Spickard explained the goals of the Recreation Department's fees, as contained in the
Commissioners' packets for the evening.
Questions and discussion included the following issues:
• Clarification of how many students swam in a lane for aquatics in other cities
• Joint use agreement with the City and school district and when school use received
priority
• Concern that the fees proposed were below market
• Areas where fees could be increased more such as aquatic and athletic field lights
• Explanation of uncovered picnic rental fees
• Increase of fees at Leo Carrillo Ranch
Jeff Pease, 3805 Trees Drive, Carlsbad, explained that his group have been at the swim
complex since 1982. He said that the increased fees would have the biggest impact on his
group. He added that he was not asking for preferential treatment, but that he hoped that the
Commission would consider the relationship his group had with the City. He mentioned that his
dream was to have the Alga Norte pool built, and that he had a 12 month waiting list. He spoke
about the North Coast Aquatics and the Aquatics Booster Club and asked that they could pay
fees from the Booster Club and be considered a non-profit organization.
Mr. Pease described the Booster Club and explained that his group provided scholarships to
children who could not afford to swim.
Further questions and discussions included the following issues:
• Clarification of whether water polo also had a profit and non-profit group
• Who provided services - North Coast Aquatics or the Booster Club
• Block of times set aside for the school district
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Chris Greene, Athletic Director, Carlsbad High School, asked that the Parks and Recreation
Commission keep Carlsbad Unified School District completely separate from other groups. He
explained that they could not generate funds and had a set budget. He suggested that the
school fees be kept separate, where they were, and that the fees should be kept at the current
dollar rate. He also asked for information regarding San Marcos and which schools they rent
to.
Further discussion included the following issue:
• Possibility of continuing at the current rent for the school districts and increasing
lighting fees at the ballfields for now and increasing school fees when funds were
available
A motion was made by Commissioner Hubbard, to approve staff's proposed fee changes and
forward recommendations to the City Council in association with the budget review process as
is with the exception of item #2, Athletic Field Lights, where fees for athletic field lights would
be increased to $7 per hour for Classification "B" Users and everything else would remain the
same. The motion was not seconded.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Cooper, AB #506-4, to approve staff's
recommended fee changes except in the area of school use increases
which will be kept at the current level for this year only, and that ballfield
lighting be increased $2 to offset the costs.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
5. AB #506-5 PROCESS OF SELECTING RECREATION ENRICHMENT
CLASSES/CAMPS/INSTRUCTORS
Lori Swenck, Recreation Supervisor, and Kelly Hauser, Recreation Specialist, gave the staff
presentation on this item. Ms. Swenck discussed contract instructors, including the ratio and
recruitment of contract instructors and what was involved. She also described the Instructional
Services Agreement and what was required.
Questions and discussions included the following issues:
• Changes made if there were too many students in a class
• Concern that there should be more physical aerobic classes
• Scheduling challenges and surveys
• Selection of instructors for pre-school
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Lyons, AB #506-5, to accept and file the
staff report.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
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6. AB #506-6 SELECTION OF SUBCOMMITEE REPRESENTATIVE FOR NAMING OF THE
CARLSBAD CITY GOLF COURSE
Ken Price, Recreation Director, updated the Parks and Recreation Commission on the status
of the golf course. He explained that the property was beginning to look like a golf course and
added that a Consulting and Grow-in Agreement and a Management Agreement were
approved with Kemper Sports Management Inc. He pointed out that Commissioner Comstock
had volunteered to be the Parks and Recreation representative for naming of the golf course.
ACTION: On motion by Chairperson Craig, AB #506-6, to select Commissioner
Comstock as the Parks and Recreation Commission representative to
serve on the Selection Committee for naming the Carlsbad City Golf
Course.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
COMMITTEE/COUNCIL REPORTS
None.
AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE COMMISSION MEETING
1. Skateparks in Northwest Quadrant
2. Commission Committee Assignments
3. Acceptance of Donations - Carrillo Ranch
4. Triathlon Presentation
5. Name of Community Garden
ADJOURNMENT
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Comstock to adjourn the Regular Meeting
at 8:50 p.m. to the Official Public Dedication Ceremony of the Ann D.
L'Heureux Memorial Dog Park on May 18, 2006, at 11:30 a.m.
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Lyons, Cooper,
and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Pacheco
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth Stark
Minutes Clerk