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Time of Meeting 5 30 P M
Date of Meeting February 12, 2007
Place of Meeting City Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Craig called the Regular Meeting to order at 5 30 p.m
ROLL CALL
Present. Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Pacheco and Cooper,
and George
Absent Commissioner Lyons
Staff Members Present:
Ken Price, Recreation Director
Mark Steyaert, Park Development Manager
Kyle Lancaster, Parks Superintendent
Judi Vincent, Management Analyst
Kathleen Shubm, Senior Office Specialist
Mike Shipley, Police Captain
Skip Hammann, Special Projects Director
Kevin Crawford, Fire Chief
Sue Spickard, Recreation Services Manager
ANNOUNCEMENTS
None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Comstock, the Minutes of the Regular
Meeting held on January 18, 2007 were approved
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Pacheco, and
George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Cooper
ABSENT: Commissioner Lyons
INTRODUCTIONS
None
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PRESENTATIONS
Michael Caragho made a presentation to the Parks and Recreation Commission regarding
tobacco control in outdoor areas in Carlsbad. Copies of the presentation and relevant
documentation were included in the Commissioners' agenda packets for the evening He
explained that he was asking Carlsbad to permanently adopt tobacco control and described the
history of tobacco control in the City Mr. Caraglio pointed out some of the benefits and harmful
effects of tobacco
He described current legislation in other areas of San Diego County and reiterated that some of
the fundamental benefits of controlling tobacco included cleaner air and less maintenance in
open areas. He explained how the new ordinance could be formulated and suggested a timeline
for the ordinance roll-out Mr Caraglio also proposed various ideas as to how to make this
ordinance come to life including creating a Carlsbad Tobacco Control Coalition and establishing
a public education campaign He also recommended individual implementation ideas.
Mr Caraglio spoke about the fiscal impact involved and explained that enforcement would be
self-monitoring He described how other cities controlled tobacco in public areas
PUBLIC OPEN FORUM
Candice Porter, 1713 Kennmgton Road, Carlsbad, explained that she was here to support Mr.
Caraglio's presentation. She described the project in Solana Beach spearheaded by the San
Dieguito Alliance Team. She mentioned that she surveyed about 300 people and about 91%
said that they would support smoke-free parks. Ms Porter distributed a map which displayed
smoke-free beaches along the coast and added that her group would like to help in any way
they could. In response to a question from Commissioner Pacheco, she described how Solana
Beach was successful with self-enforcement. She added that Chula Vista developed a small
card that could be passed out
Molly Bowman-Styers, 405 Nautilus Street, La Jolla, explained that she was Policy Manager for
the American Lung Association. She said that smoke-free beaches and parks brought together
environmentalists within the community She described how many cigarette butts had to be
picked up, and added that she was concerned about public health problems created by
smoking. She added that an ordinance could really work and help with the quality of life in the
City
Ms Bowman-Styers provided a listing of Smoke-Free Stars in the County of San Diego and
said that she would like to add Carlsbad to the list
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Comstock, the Agenda for February 12,
2007 was approved
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Pacheco,
Cooper and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Lyons
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CONSENT CALENDAR
1 AB 0207-1 SUMMARY REPORT
To accept, approve and file the January 18, 2007 Parks and Recreation Commission
Meeting Summary Report
2. AB 0207-2 RECEIPT OF DONATION OF SOCCER GOAL NETTING AND SUPPORT
POLES FOR AVIARA COMMUNITY PARK
To accept a donation of soccer goal netting and support poles for Aviara Community Park
and recommend acceptance by the City Council
3 AB #0207-3 RECEIPT OF DONATIONS FOR THE T.R.U.S.T PROGRAM AND YOUTH
SPORTS PROGRAMS
To accept a donation of $500 in support of the T.R.U.S T. program and $500 in support of
Youth Sports programs, and recommend acceptance by the City Council.
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Hubbard, AB #0207-1, AB #0207-2, and
AB #0207-3 of the Consent Calendar were approved
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Pacheco,
Cooper and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Lyons
DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS
4 AB #0207-4 SUB-COMMITTEE SKATE PARK REPORT
Mark Steyaert, Park Development Manager, explained that the Parks and Recreation
Commission asked staff to report on skateboarding options at a recent meeting. He said that
after staff's presentation, the Commission asked staff to report back with options on locations
and costs for another skate park As staff was busy with other priorities, he explained that staff
was unable to take on this additional task. As a result, the Department recommended that
funds be included in the operating budget for the fiscal year 2007-2008 budget. The
Commission did not want to wait, so they determined that a sub-committee of Commission
members be formed to speed up the process and look for potential sites Mr Steyaert stated
that a sub-committee was created for the purpose of looking at potential sites.
Commissioner Cooper explained that the sub-committee, composed of Chairman Craig,
Commissioner Pacheco and himself, met. He described what transpired and added that they
met with 4 of the 5 council members, all of whom had favorable responses. He mentioned they
also spoke briefly to Fire Chief Crawford. He added that he contacted Chad Berry from Coast
Recreation for input, and received preliminary designs and cost estimates, all contained in the
Commissioners' packets for the evening.
Commissioner Cooper pointed out that at this time the sub-committee did not know what was
going to happen to the Safety Center so they were looking at a temporary facility which could
be moved
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Mr Berry from Coast Recreation pointed to the design on the board as Commissioner Cooper
explained what was being proposed He indicated that funding a new skate park site would be
cost prohibitive and time consuming. He stated that the proposal by the sub-committee would
provide for over double the amount of skateboarders currently using the skate park
Commissioner Cooper explained that he conducted skate classes at the Safety Center for three
years and in all that time had never witnessed an argument or a fight among the skateboarders.
He added that he would like the opportunity to have more skateboarding at that particular skate
park
Questions and discussion included the following issues:
• Footprint would be maximized
• Material would be modular, very durable, weather resistant, cost effective and portable
• Costs could be reduced by cutting corners
• Westfield parking lot as a potential site and the possibility that it may require a
conditional use permit amendment for that location
• Timeline was tight for exploring other sites
• Attitudes about skateboarding have changed over the years
Skip Hammann, Special Projects Director, displayed the site plan with the proposed police/fire
training/public works center. He pointed out the skateboard area and explained that information
would be sorted in the next few months to determine what would happen to the area He
described activities that would take place at the shooting range and fire training areas and
clarified that it would be approximately three years from now before the police and firefighters
actually used the site Mr. Hammann added that the public works center would not be looked at
until this summer
He played a video of the type of use expected by the fire and police departments to give the
Commissioners an indication about compatibility with a skate park
Questions and discussion included the following issues-
• Concern about compatibility of a skate park near the firefighters and police use shown in
the video
• Focusing on finding a real location for the skate park rather than just giving staff and the
Commission only two years time to find a site for a new skate park
• Sub-committee's recommended plan was movable, cost effective and would allow them
to find another location during the three year timeframe
• Even if the area was not compatible for all activities, the cost would be lower for 3-4
years and skateboarders would be able to use and test the modular equipment during
that time
• Capacity of skateboarders could be doubled to 50/day, 3657 days a year costing
approximately $1 50/user
• Skateboarders would probably not find the firefighters and police activities an issue but
the firefighters and police may find an issue with the skateboarders being nearby
Police Captain Mike Shipley explained that he was attending the meeting in order to answer
questions from the commissioners He indicated that on a temporary basis the expansion of the
skate park at the Safety Center would work but the ultimate question was whether there would
be enough room for all the activities in the long term
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Fire Chief Kevin Crawford pointed out that times have changed significantly since 9/11 resulting
in stricter security. He said that he was not sure that Carlsbad residents would want their
children exposed to the additional firefightmg and police activities proposed at the site.
Further questions and discussion included the following issues:
• Whether a CUP would be required if the Parks and Recreation Commission and staff
moved forward with the sub-committee's recommendations
• Length of time it would take to make the changes at the skate park
• Ultimate goal was to keep the skate park at the Safety Center if possible
ACTION: On motion by Commissioner Comstock, AB #0207-4, to accept the report
from staff and the Skate Park Sub-Committee and to make a
recommendation to City Council to expand the current skate park at the
Safety Center
AYES: Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Pacheco,
Cooper and George
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Lyons
COMMITTEE/COUNCIL REPORTS
None
AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE COMMISSION MEETING
1 CIP Update
2 Report on Beach Preservation Committee
ADJOURNMENT
ACTION:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
On motion by Commissioner Hubbard to adjourn the Regular Meeting at
6-55 p m
Chairperson Craig, Commissioners Hubbard, Comstock, Pacheco,
Cooper and George
None
None
Commissioner Lyons
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth Stark
Minutes Clerk