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RINUTES OF PIEETING OF CUSBB PLANNING CONl~ISSI~i!i
11. 1951.f:
Meeting called to order by Chairman Bond at 7:05 P. M. Present be-
sides the Chairman were Comms. Baumgartner, Sutton, Gronseth, Stringer,
Building Inspector Ewald. Absent, Comms. Cockrill and Helton.
Comm. Gronseth moved, seconded by Comm. Baumgartner, that reading
of the minutes of the meeting of December 28th and adjourned meeting of
Jmuary 4th be waived. All ayes, motion carried.
Chairman Bond read a copy of letter from Ikx Ewald, Building Inspect-
or, to Vaughan Realty Company, regarding a zoning violation on property
located on Pi0 Pic0 at Chestnut, asking that illegally-placed siws be
removed
Chairman Bond read a memorandum from the Civic Center Site Committee,
recommending for consideration as a civic center site a location on
fioosevelt Street north of Grand Avenue, described as Lot 33, Seasifie
Lands. Discussion was deferred until later in the meeting.
present to discuss requirements for approval of final map on TIERRA DEL
OR0,since the City Council had made zoning a condition for said approval.
A petition for zoning the subdivision R-U3 and (2-1, filed earlier in the
day,/withdrawn, and Mr. Cannon requested that the Commission recommend
approval of the final map, when filed, without zoning, simply on the basis
of the statement of land use filed with the tentative map (single-family
family dwellings on 6000 square feet) He complained of the considerable
delay already encountered and stated that if it is necessary to go through
zoning proceedings, which would delay final ,approVal 1 many weeks, he will
go back to the Rscord of Survey, accepted some months ago, covering the
entire area with the exception of the southerly 100 feet, and abandon the
present map. He stated that he is negotiating with the San Diego Gas I(c
Electric Company for a small parcel of land across the highway, which, if
the deal goes through, will be developed as a business district. Other-
wise, Mr. Cannon stated he would like to have six of the lots of TIXRKA.
DEL OBQ, lying along the highway, zoned for business. However, he stated
he does not know at this time whether he will want this C-1 zoning; that
it will depend upon the outcome of his negbtiations with the San Diego
ks C?C Electric Company, and that therefore he would request the Commission
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to recommend that the CouncLl withdraw its requirement of zoning before
filing final map. Tkre subdivision ordinance was consulted and it was
found that zoning was not a requirement for approval of a final map, but
that a statement of the intended land use must be filed, C~EEU, Sutton
moved that a hearing be set on January 25th, at 730 P. PI.,, to establish
the zoning of TIERRA DEL OR0 as R-lB, at the initiation of the Carlsbad
Planning Commission, There was.'no second, Mr. Cannon pointed out that
through deed restrictions the land would be held to single-family dwell-
ings for 49 years. After a lengthy discussion, Comm'. Sutton moved that
the matter be tabled. Seconded by Comm. Gronseth, Three ayes, one nay
(Baumgartner) . Motion carried,
Ralph Moore, 2098 Chestnut, and Bept Edwards, 2168 Chestnut, were
present to inquire whether a proposed street could be laid out on the
master plan, in their area, so that future development of the property
could be properly planned. The tentative master street plan was consulted
md proposed streets for that area studied, Comm, Sutton pointed out that
a master plan is not binding until the streets are dedicated or offered
for dedication, The land involved is a portion of Tract 255, Thum Lands,
presently zoned E-2. It was suggested that Mr. Ploore, Hr. Edwards and
Hr, Curtis, another interested owner in the area, write a letter outlin-
ing what they would like to have done in the way of future streets.
Corn'. Sutton suggested that the City Attorney be asked whether it is
possible to establish and hold a street position, and what can be done
to assure the future owners of the property that the street placement
will be there-.
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The recommendation from the Civic Center Site Committee was reviewed,
Several objections were raised to the site as a Civic Center, although
the majority of members felt it would be a suitable site for a fire house
and police station, Corm, Baumgartner stated he believed fire, police
and city offices should be in one location for economy in building and
staffing, and for the convenience of the citizens'. Fire Chief Hardin
stated he believed tb present site is entirely unsuitable on account of
the close proximity of churches and schools, Other sites suggested by
members were the land now owned by the Water Company in the Industrial
Tract, or somewhere in the Tamaraok area, After considtipable discussion,
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Comm, Stringer moved that the recommendation of the Civic Center Site
Committee that a site on Boosevelt Street, described as Lot 33, Seaside
Lands, be considered as- a site for fire, police and city buildings, be
accepted insofar as temporary police and fire stations are concerned,
but that the Commission feels that the civic center site would require
mrther study', Seconded by Comm, Gronseth. Four ayes, one nay (Baum-
gartner), motion carried, Comm. Gronseth stated for the record that he
voted for the location for the fire and police stations on the proposed
site on Boosevelt Street because no other location was submitted, but
does not believe that the location of the fire and police department at
that location will be gatisfactory to the majority of' the people of the
community,
Fire Chief Hardin stated he has some ideas in regard to getting
someone to buy some land, when a site has been selected by the City, aad
build buildings to be rented to the City, probably on an option-to-buy
basis ,
Comm, Stringer suggested that the Harbor Committee be empowered to
plan the zoning and the streets for the submerged and adjacent land to
the proposed boat harbor, since they are close to the project, and then
come to the Planning Commission with their recommendations. He stated he
felt this would result in saving of tine and effort for the Commission,
Comm, Sutton stated he believed requests for any planntng of streets or
zoning should come from the residents themselves, as that neighborhood
has been disturbed by several things lately, such as the Thacher subdi-
vision plan and the request for reclassification of a portion of the
Cappe' property for sign puI*poses, and would probably resist almost any
proposal at this point unless it originated with one of the property owners
in the area. Max Ewald outlined briefly the Sm Diego Gas 8e Electric
Company's plans for dredging, and urged that immediate thought be given
to planing of a street around the north shore, etc', Comm. Stringer moved
the Commission indicate that it would welcome any help or suggestions from
the Harbor Committee on the zoning and land use for streets and utilities
in the Agua Hedionda area, and suggests that they contact as many adjoining
owners as possible for their recommendations'. Seconded by Comm, Sutton.
All ayes, motion carried,
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Max Ewald announced that the Harbor Committee will be going to
Newport Harbor on the 20th to tour the facilities and gather information
on small boat harbors, and extended an invitation to members of the
Commission to accompany the group.
The matter of advertising signs going up in unzoned areas in the
south part of town, was discussed, The recommendatio3 of the Planning
Commission to the City Council for regulation of signs in unzoned terri-
tory was reviewed, and it was decided to send the following memorandum
to the City Council;
“It has been called to the attention of the Planning Commission that signs have appeared on the freeway south. of Agua Hedionda lagoon, in unzoned territory’, In view of this fact, your attention is invited to the recommendation from this body to establish a sign ordinance, which is still pending your action.
“our immediate action is ur$edOfl
It was decided to have a committee meeting on Monday, JaYluary 18th,
at 7:3O P. M., and all members were urged to attend.
There being no further business to come before the Commission, Corn.
Sutton moved for adjournment, seconded by Comm. Stringer. A11 ayes,
meeting adjourned at 9:55 P. H,
Respectfully submitted,
ABNIE STRINGER, Secretary
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