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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1960-07-12; Planning Commission; MinutesMINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF CARLSGAD CITY. PLANNING CWISSION July 12, 1960 1- The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Secretary Price. Present were Commissioners Davis, Kistler, Hughes, Grant, and Jarvie. Alqo present were City Manager S later, Mayor Sonneman and Councilman Bierce. 2- Election of Officers for 1960-61. Nominations for the office of Chairman were opened by the Secretary. Caw.:: rniss$obgr'hghes nominatgd.Cmissioner Jarvie for the office of Chairman. Cmissianer Grant seconded the nomination. There were no other nominations for Chairman. Mathew Jarvie was elected Chairman by a unanimous vote. Nominations for the office of Vice Chairman were opened by Chairman Jarvie. Commissioner Hughes nominated Comissioner Grant for the office, and Com- missioner Kistler seconded the nomination. There were no other nominations for Vice Chairman. John H. Grant was elected Vice Chairman by a unanimous vote. Chairman -. Jarvie stated that he was not willing to become a rubber stamp for the Council. It had been stated that perhaps 5 men would be easier to control than 7, but he certainly hopes that the Commission does not feel that they are only here to be controlled by the Council. There will be differences of opinion from time to time between the Council and the Com- mission, and this is how it should be, Mayor Sonneman stated she would like to congratulate Mr. Jarvie on his election as Chairman. Speaking for the Council members, she stated that they had never looked for a rubber stamp in the Commission, The Comnission was a great help to the Council, but it was still subsidiary to the Council, 3- Approval of Minutes of June 28, 1960. Commissioner Grant moved that the minutes of June 28, 1960, be approved, deleting Paragraphs 3, 5, 7, 8, and 9 of Section 5 and Paragraphs 2 and 3 of Section 7, €or the reason that these paragraphs are not germane to the business of the Planning Commission, but simply reflect personal feelings. Commissioner Hughes seconded the motion. All ayes, motion carried, 4- Written Communications: (a) Memorandum from the City Manager stating that the City Council at its meeting on June 21, 1960, had made a decision to grant the appeal of Donald A. Briggs, Jr. for a variance. The matter is being returned to the Planning Commission for reconsideration. The Secretary stated that he had discussed this matter with the City Attorney and it was her opinion that, inasmuch as there is now only one member on the Planning Commission who was present at the original hearing, another public hearing should be held before the Commission. The Secretary pointed out that if the Commission wished, they could do nothing on the matter for 40 days, and this would constitute accordance with the decision of the City Council to overrule the Commission's original decision. However, he felt in this instance, it was the intent of the Council to have the Cammission hold another public hearing, 5- 6- - - After some discu'ssion by the Corr?rlnission it was m&d by Conmissioner Davis and seconded by Conmissioner Hughes that the variance be re-advertised for another public hearing. All ayes, motion carried. Oral Communications: There were no oral communications. HEARING VARIANCE Request of Maurice S. Baird for reduction of minimum lot area from 6,000 sq. ft. to 5,050 sqr ft. and 5,000 sq. ft. and reduction of minimum lot frontage from 60 ft. to 50.50 ft. and 50 ft. to allow lot split on portion of Lot 47, Seaside Lands. Notice of hearing was read. The Secretary certified to the publication and mailing of notice of hearing. The application as submitted by the owner was then read stating the reasons for requesting the variance. There had been no correspondence received on the matter. The Secretary pointed out that there had been similar variances granted in the neighborhood. MR. C. D. MC CLELLAN, representing the applicant, stated that he felt all the information was set forth in the application, but if there were any questions, he would be glad to answer them. After some discussion by the Commission, it was moved by Conmissioner Davis and seconded by Commissioner Kistler that Resolution No. 169 be adopted, granting the request of Eiaurice S. Baird for a variance as submitted, for the following reasons: 1. Similar variances have been granted on other lots in the innnediate area . 2, Granting the variance would not be detrimental to the surrounding property, since this is a typical lot size in this area. 3. The requirements of Ordinance No, 9060 for setbacks are being complied with. 4. There were no oral or written protests. The Chairman asked for a roll call vote: AYES: Chairman Jarvie, Commissioners Davis, Kistler, Hughes, and Grant. NOES : None . ABSENT: None. Resolution NO. 169 adopted. 7- TENTATIVE MAP OF'LAS FLORES PLACE SUBDIVISfON: The Secretary certified to the mailing of notices to adjoining property owners and then read the recommendations of the various departments and agencies. The Secretary then presented proposed Resolution No. 168 incorporating the recommendations of the various departments and agencies as conditions for approving the tentative map. Resolution No. 168 was then read. The Secretary pointed out that the tecmendation from the Engineering Department had made no recomnendatic,. for or against sidewalks. Howe.cr, it is the policy of the City Council to require sidewalks in all subdivisions, and this is why condition number 10 appear6 in Resolution 168, MR. &JMPTNER of Kamptner and Holly, representing the subdivider, stated that he would like to discuss some of the conditions set forth in the proposed resolution. Item No. 5 stated that power and utility poles would be located in the streets. €le stated that they had intended to place these poles in the easements provided at the rear property lines in order to eliminate them from in front of the lots. The Secretary pointed out that where there is unnecessary expense to the power company and utility company in placing the poles in the easements, the City Engineer has been recommending that they be placed in the streets. The placement of the poles is worked out by the City Engineer and the power and utility companies, Mr. Kamptner asked if the Gas & Electric Co. finds that the poles should be in the easements, would this be the final word? The Secretary stated that the City Engineer could overrule their decision and place them where desired, Comnissioner Grant stated that he felt if the power company would permit the poles to be placed in the easements, and if adequate service could be received by placing them here,then the City Engineer should go along with this as it would be an improvement to have the poles eliminated from the streets. Mr. Kamptner, referring to Item No. 8 which requires B grading plan to be submitted to the City Engineer, stated that there would not be any grading done, but that they will submit a plan showing the existing contours of the land. Mr. Kamptner stated that the subdivider had not planned to install sidewalks, as required by Item No. 10. They felt that they were only used by children to play on rather than people walking on them, that they prevented the beautification of the front: of the property, and that they were not necessary, since there was no school in the area. He asked that this requirement be deleted, Item No. 7 requires a 6** water main on Forest Ave. from Spruce St, to Cipriano Lane. Mr. Kamptner stated that it was his belief that a subdivider was only required to install a 61' main on streets offered by him for dedication, and that the City is required to install any mains on previously-dedicated streets. Mr. Slater stated that the City Engineer must have had a definite reason for requiring the installation of this main. Re stated that perhaps in the future it would be wise for the City Engineer, Planning Secretary, Subdivider and himself to hold a staff meeting on subdivisions to iron out all these problems in advance. MR. JACK KUBOTA, 3800 Skyline, stated that it seems the question here is a simple one--fn the event a water line is needed in Forest Ave., is this the responsibility of the Subdivider or the City Water Department? It has been accepted that a subdivider installs the lines in his own new street, but he has never come across a situation where the subdivider has been asked to meet this type of requirement. MR. F. J, RAMSAY, 2460 Olive Dr., stated that in order to sell a few lots on the south side of Forest Ave. he had had to put in a 4" transite water main from Olive Dr. to his north point. This line runs up 400 ft. on Forest Ave. from Olive Dr. -3- I - MR. GELSSINGER L- ALLMAV INC. stated that he had dlked with Mr. Jenken and Mr. Thornton several times and that Mr. Thornton had informed him that there is a pipeline from Olive Dr. running up past Spruce St, with a gate and T- valve at the corner of Spruce and Forest and that all he would have to do was tie into this line. Mr. Geissinger continued, stating that they were opposed to installing sidewalks because they were trying to preserve the natural beauty as much as possible and attempting to create an area which was not qYmnmercialg8 in appearance. However, if the Council wishes them to install sidewalks, they will certainly cooperate. As to Item No. 9 requiring street trees, this is something he was not apprised of when the original planning was done. There are over 360 trees already on the property and he feels that it would be a shame to tear them out and replace them with other types . The Secretary pointed out that this requirement refers to parkway trees, not trees on the property. Mr. Slater brought up the possibility of making some arrangement on the water line to have the subdivider pay for the installation of the main on Forest Ave., and then as other properties hook into the line they would reimburse the subdivider. After a lengthy discussion, the Cornmission agreed that the sidewalk require- ment should remain, as they are a safer place for the children to play than in the streets, they lend an orderly appearance to the property, they provide a place for people to walk, and even though there is no school in the area at present, there will be in the near future. As for the parkway trees, they also lend an attractive appearance. It was moved by Commissioner Grant and seconded by Commissioner Hughes that Resolution No. 168 be adopted with the following changes: 5, The power and utility poles shall be located according to agreement between the City Engineer and the Subdivider. 6. A water main shall be installed to service the subdivision, the site and location of which shall be determined by the City Engineer and the Subdivider. The Chairman asked for a roll call vote: AYES: Chaimn Jarvie, Commissioners Davis, Kistler, Hughes, and Grant. NOES: None, ABSENT: None. Resolution No. 168 adopted. 8- Old Business: (a) The Secretary stated that it was the policy of the previous Planning, Conanission to hold public hearings only on the 2nd Tuesday of each month and then to hold a study session on the 4th Tuesday. He asked the Commission if they wished to continue this policy or establish a policy of holding regular meetings twice a month. -4- Chairman Jamie stated that he did not feel the a-cldy sessions had ever accomplished very much and that he believes we should have regular meetings twice a month. The Commissioners discussed this question and decided that regular meetings should be held twice a month, as only holding hearings once a month had tended to delay applicants. They agreed that when the need arises for a study session, they can schedule a special meeting for this purpose. It was moved by Conmissioner Grant and seconded by Commissioner Hughes that the monthly study session be dropped and that regular meetings be held twice a month. All ayes, motion carried. 9- New Business: There was no new business. 10- By proper motion the meeting was adjourned at 8:55 P.M. Respectfully, Secretary