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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF
CARLSBAD CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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February 28, 1961
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman Jarvie. Present be-
sides the Chairman were Commissioners Kistler, Grant, Ward and Hughes. Absent,
Commissioners Davis and Hardwick.
Approval of,Minutes of February 14, 1961. It was moved by Commissioner Hughes
and seconded by CmissPoner Kistler th-t the minutes of February 14, 1961 be
approved as submitted, All ayes, motion carried.
Written Communications:
There were no written ConKnuniCationS.
Oral Communications:
There were no oral cmunications. ’
HEARING - RECLASSIFICATION - Request of San Diego Gas and Electric Company to
reclassify from R-1 (single family. residential) to
M (Industrial) property consisting of a parcel
running approximately 400 ft. along the east side
of Carlsbad Blvd. and approximately 700 ft. along
$he north side of Terramar Dr. and being a portion
of Lot H, Rancho Agua Hedionda accordinp to Map
823 and Misc. Map 209 in the City of Carlsbad,
Notice of hearing was read. The Secretary certified as to publication of notice
of hearing and the mailing of notices to property owners in the area. The Sec-
retary then read the application, setting forth the reasons for requesting the reclassificetion.
The Secretzry read 17 items of correspondence protesting yf-is reclassification,
said letters being from the following persons,
Terramar Assoc iat ion
Carlsbad, Calif.
Rhea PI. and Warren H. Leonard
5016 Tierra del Oro, Carlsbad
John D. Lenihan
5031 Shore Drive, Caklsbad
Miss Alvis Peete P.0, Box 21, Carlsbad
A.O. Innis 5290 Carlsbad Blvd., Carlsbad
Ernest T. Shay
5081 Ef Arbol Dr., Carlsbad
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Agnes G. and Helen V. Johnson
5380 Los Robles Drive, Carlsbad
Hazel L. Scritsmier
5201 Shore Drive, Caxlsbad
Mrs. Floyd D. Young
5185 Shore Drive, Carlsbad
Jerry D. Colling, MOD.
709 First St., Oceanside
Marvin Burke
5220 Carlsbad Blvd., C,rlsbad
David H. Moriarty
5020 Tierra del Oro, Carlsbad
Arthur and Alice J. Brown
5021 Shore Drive, Carlsbad
F.C. Robinson, Jr.
5345 El Arbol Dr., Carlbhad
William E. Shay
5114 Carlsbad Blvd., Carlsbad
George C. and Gertrude B. Henry
5080 Carlsbad Blvd., Carlsbad
William E. Robinson
5390 El Arbol Dr., Carlsbad
Nr. and Mrs. James B. Hankins
5299 Los Robles Dr., Carlsbad
Petition protesting subject reclassification and conta’bning 198 signatures.
Said letters and petition are a part of the permanent file,
The Secretary showed the Comnissioners the proposed plot plan submitted by
the San Diego Gas and Electric Company and photw of the area taken from the top of the Encina Power Plant looking to the south and to the north from the
intersection of Los Robles and Terramar Drive,
FRANK DE VORE, Y.O. Box 1831, San Diego 12, showed an artists conception of the
proposed plant to the Commission. He stated that the facility to be installed
on this property is for the purpose of making a better service area serving
Carlsbad, Encinitas, Leucadia, Oceanside, Vista and a portion of Orange County.
San Diego Gas and Electric Co. purchased all this land, sore 300 odd acres to
be used for facilities in connection with this operation as a public utility. m&.
They were supposed to get the proper zoning for their purposes on this property
but the city did not zone it properly for them in that they did not zone ‘all of
it W. The portion that was zoned M was that property between the railroad and
Carlsbad Blvd. except for the portion under consideration. It wa8 not a part
of the subdivision map but was sold to them as the rest of it was. The property :
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was naver intended to be used for anything but industrial purposes. The people
of the Terramar Association have said that .if this zone change is granted the
Sari Diego Gas and Electric can put anything there they want. They would use it
for the purpose they have stated. It is not an obnoxious looking building. Mr.
DeVore showed the Comiission pictut'es of like opekations centers in San Diego
County. The service cars going out of here would consist of 6 service trucks,
gas Cars and trouble crews. Originally they had plannted to put either 3 or 4
driveways on Terramar but the Terramar Association had asked them to remove
first one and then another and now there is only one remaining on that street
just back of the parking lot. There is a gate to be put in. The property
they*- east of the railroad track is about 350 odd acres which is to be used
solely for electrical steel towers. He went into some detail as to the gener-
. ating units, steel towers and switching racks they planned to construct in the
future. He stated that they could not use the property to the rear of this
. property as there was no access to the Freeway. Originally they had planned to
use this property for a coal supply yard and they still may use i& for that.
He respectfully requested the Planning Commission to give due consideration
to the application as presented by the Sari Diego Gas and Electric.
CARL NEISWENDER, 5380 El Arbol, President of Terramar Association, on behalf
..of all the residents there protested the granting of this request for rezoning
in its entirety. The Terramar Association is dedicated to $mproving the area as
a better residential section of Carlsbad. There are many things needed in the
.area but not an all night garage, Their faith in American way of government
will go if this was allowed to happen over the protests and property rights of
individuals, They support the Gas Company and some are stock holders but if
the Gas Company pursues this request, they do so at the expense of public re-
lations. The Gas Company's past performance in keeping promises is question-
'able and this is a serious matter to over 200 home Owners and 400 voters and
he felt sure of a solid block vote against such a change in zone. He stated that - there were others present who wished to make a statement of their own and that
he was speaking for members of the association who were unsble to be present
'. at the hearing.
GEORGE C. HENRY, 5080 Carlsbad Blvd., spoke in protest to the rezoning of this
property and made the suggestion that the storage area could be placed under-
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"PAUL SWIRSKY, 5079 Los Robles, stated that all the people present at the meet- - ing-were not going to speak but asked for a show of hands from all those present
as objectors to the request of the San Diego Gas and Electric Company. Almost
all present raised their hands. He wished to point out that the formal ap-
plication of the San Diego Gas and Electric made no reference to the particular
plant being built there. Mr. DeVore said they will do nothing but this, but
the application asks for a change of zone from R-1 to M. He wished to fill in
a little of the background of this. In 1955, at the time the Gas and Electric
Company met with the city, at the time they were considering the entire rezon-
zone to be identified as ttU'c zone so that they could use their property in any
way they wanted. That is the reason for the R-1 zone there, in order to protect
the surraunding residential properties and make any other use subject to review,
and that is why the brown zone on the map is industrial. After careful consi-
deration, it was decided it would be bad for Carlsbad to have a **Ut' zone. There
was some good planning that went into that map. It was to be left to the Plan-
ning Conanission in the future to decide. The people that are most affected
by this request for zone change, are against it. The type of people who have
... ing of the city, San Diego Gas and Electric said they would like a particular
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signed this petition are the people who have consistantly supported all things
that are progressive in this community. But this will keep them from enjoying
their own property. He then itemzied points against the zone change: (1) It
is completely incompatible with this area. (2) It is detrimental to the rights
and privileges of the property owners in this area (3) It can do nothing but
create excessive traffic as there is parking for 128 cars. (4) There is no
justification or need for this zone change as an operations center is not in-
cidental to the generating plant and could be placed anywhere without affecting
the generating plant.
MR. PAYNE, 5385 Los Robles, protested the rezoning of this property as the
residents of that area had no desire to live next to a junk yard. They had
bought property Mth R-1 restrictions and as far as the Encina Power Plant went,
he had not seen anything as bad as that since World War.land that the property
owners were entitled to have the protection of their properties by keeping the
present zone on.subject property.
DOROTHY CHILTON, 5531 Carlsbad Blvd., stated that she did not own property in
Terramar, but had lived there for 5 years and she opposed the zone change as
once changed, Terramar would never be the same again.
MARY NESSWENDER, 5380 El Arbol Dr., protested the zone change and stated that
the proposed service area was on the busiest corner in the area and where all
the school buses picked up the children and she felt it would endanger their
1 ives.
ALICE BROWN, 5021 Shore Dr., stated E;r. DeVore had showed pictures of the
proposed buildings and as far as she was concerned the beautiful landscaping
consisted of chain link fences.
HCIRRY ALLEN, 9058 Shore Dr., felt that the engineers of the gas company could
solve the problem of moving the plant back further on the property.
MAKGCRET kEEDY, 5158 Los Robles, brought out what could happen to a neighborhood
if it is not protected by zoning regulations.
LELAND SWISHER, Tierra del Oro, protested the zone change.
MR. DE VORE, in response to some of the points that had been brought up,
stated thpt the expense of going underground would have to be absorbed by the
rate payers. One thing the gas company did need was a service area and this
would be a saving to the rate payers. Someone mentioned the large parking
area. At night the garages will operate a compressor station, and wash rack.
This washes one truck at a time. The neareat building to these people is 40
feet back from the planter strip and the headquarters would be closing at
4:30 P.M.
The public hearing was closed at 9:20 PLM.
A short recess was called. Reconvened at 9:30 P.M.
There was considerahle discussion as to the projected plans of the Gas and
Electric Company and as to whether this service area could be put on the acre-
age back of the Freeway, but Mr. DeVbre explained that all of that area would
be needed for the high voltage lines and structural steel towers in their future
plans as these have to be placed a certain distance apart. Mr.. DeVore was
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questioned as to whether they could eliminate having any driveway at all on
Terramar Drive and place all the driveways to the north but he stated that this
would be incompatible with the planned expansion of the plant.
A motion WPS made by Commissioner Ward that the Commission study the request
further and consider it at the next regular meeting on March 14, 1961.
The Chairman stated that he felt there was no p6int in further study of the
subject as they knew all the facts at this time.
Commissioner Ward withdrew the motion and then remade the motion to consider
the request at the meeting of March 14, 1961 after further study. Commissioner
Hughes seconded the motion.
The Chairman asked for a roll call vote,
AYES: Commissioners Grant, Ward and Hughes
NOES: Chairman Jarvie and Comissioner Kistler
ABSENT: Commissioners Hardwick and Davis.
TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAY OF KAL.REN ESTATES
The Secretary certified to the mailing of notices to adjoining property owners,
and then read the recommendations of the various departments and agencies.
DON HOLLY, 2601 State St., representing the owner and subdivider, stated that
he noticed an mission in the Resolution pertaining to the extension of
Tamarack St .
The Secretary stated that this recommendation should be included. The recmend-
ation from the Engineering Department w. s that "the rear of Lot 5 be reserved
for future street purposes. At the time Tamarack Avenue is extended the City
can then accept the dedication''.
MR. HOLLY stated that he felt that this did detract from the subdivision as
it makes it harder to sell the property. If a portion of the lot is reserved
for future street extension it might detrect from the desirability of this lot
to a buyer. He feels there should be some remuneration to the subdivider. He
suggested that this portion of the lot be appraised by an appraiser and the
City forfeit some of the usual fees to the subdivider i~ an amount commen- surate with the value of the property, otherwise the City would be acquiring
land for nothing.
Cmissioner Grant asked Mr. Holly if a fair trade agreement like this had
ever been done before and also what the fees amounted to. Mr. Holly stated
that in the case of this particular subdivision the fees amounted a a sum in the neighborhood of about $750-00-
MR. HOLLY ~Hcril brought up the subject of the utility pole easements stating
that the subdivider preferred having the poles in easements but he hated to
gj%.e up the necessary land to e,zeements if the City was not going to enforce
the ordinance which requires them to be placed in easements. He further
brought up the matter of other subdividers that had only been required to
have 32 ft. width streets and no sidewalks and did not feel it was fair to
require 36 ft. width streets and sidewalks and 43 ft, radius in cul-de-sac as
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a 41 ft. radius is often stipulated since the turning radius for trucks is
38 feet. He felt that a precedent had been set in other tracts and that it
was not fair to ask for a 36 ft. street.
A motion was made by Cmissioner Grant and seconded by Commissioner Ward that Resolution No. 199 be adopted approving the tentative subdivision map subject
to the following revisions and additions: that it be respectfully requested
that the City Council enforce the ordinance requiring utility poles to be
placed in easements provided for them; that subdivider is to deed rear 42 feet of lot 5 to city for future street purposes on terms to be acceptable to both
parties; that the name Magnolia Place be changed to Karren Lane.
The Chairman asked for a roll call vote.
AYES: Chairman Jarvie, Conmissioners Kistler, Grant, Ward and Hughes.
NOES : None
ABSENT: Commissioners Hardwick and Davis,
Amendment to Ordinance No. 9060, Article
15, Section 1504, removing all potentially
zoned areas from the City of Carlsbad zon-
ing map; said amendment being initiated by
the City Council of the City of Carlsbad.
After a short discussion of this matter a motion was made by Conmissioner Grant
and seconded by Cmissioner Ward that Kesolution No. 200 be adopted recomnend-
ing adoption of Resolution of Intention $721 for the following reasons:
1. That the conversion by precise planning of properties that are
in potential zones places requirements on the owners that other
property owners are not required to meet.
The Chairman asked for a roll call vote.
AYES: Chairman Jarvie, Commissioners Kistler, Grant, Ward and Hughes,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Conmissioners Hardwick and Davis
Resolution No. 200 adopted.
Commissioner Ward requested to be excused at 10:30 P.M.
Old Business:
There was no old business;
New Business:
The Secretary read a letter from Peter Bullen requesting permission to build
on lot described as portion of lots 24 and 25 Sunnyslope Tract, Block 13,
in the City of Carlsbad, said lot being less than 40 feet in frontage. The
Secretary showed the plot plan to the Commission showing Qhere the Freeway
had caused this frontage of less than 40 feet.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Hughes and seconded by Comissioner Grant
to grant this requast for permission to build.
~ll ayes, ;notion carried.
Memorandum to the Planning Commission from the City Council enclosing a request
from Mortimer W. and Ruth A. Bondy asking that the City Council initiate a
Resolution of Intention to rezone from R-1 to R-3 all properties on the east
side of Pi0 l’ico Drive, extending from the southerly side of Elm Avenue to the
northerly side of Palm Ave. The memorandum stated that it was the Council’s
wish that the Planning Commission study this proposal and outline the areas
the Coirmission determined should be rezoned to R-3 and forward their reconanend-
ations to the Council. The Chairman appointed Commissioners Grant and Hughes
as a committee to work with the Secretary on preparing a plan for rezoning
this property.
9- Adjournment:
By proper motion the meeting was adjourned at 10:40.
Respectfully submitted.