HomeMy WebLinkAbout1962-04-10; Planning Commission; MinutesMINUTES OF THE CARLSBAD CITY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
April 10, 1962
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. , by Chairman Grant. Present besides the Chairman were Commissioners Davis, Neiswender , Kistler, Jarvie and Ward.
Approval of Minutes of March 27, 1962. A motion was made by Commissioner
Xarvie and seconded by Commissioner Ward that the minutes of March 27, 1962 be approved as submitted. All'ayes, motion carried.
Commissioner Hughes was present at 7:35 P.M.
Written Communications.
There were no written communications.
Oral Communications.
There were no oral communications.
CONTINUED HEARING - VARIANCE - Request of George Nardelli for a reduction
of front vard setback from 20' to 15' on property located on the west side of Garfield between Cypress Avenue and Beech Avenue
sard property beme more Particularly des- "
I. crlbed as Lot 90 , Granville Park #2, in the City of Carlsbad.
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Notice of hearing was read. The Secretary certified as to publication of notice of hearing and the mailing of notices to property owners in the area. The Secretary then read the application setting forth the reasons for requesting the variance.
Two items of correspondence were received. One letter &ted March 26, 1962
signed by the following:
Ne11 Beauchamp 2669 Garfield, Carlsbad
June J. Gronquist 2651 Garfield, Carlsbad
Richard Gronquist 2651 Garfield, Carlsbad
Gertrude Piturn Mallen 2677 Garfield, Carlsbad
Alex. Mallen 2677 Garfield, Carlsbad
Florence S. Magee 258 Beech Avenue, Carlsbad
They objected to this variance because they were of the opinion that they all had 20 feet setbacks. The second letter dated April 3, 1962 signed by the same property owners wished to protest the granting of any variance that would permit protrusion
of any building on the west side of Garfield Street between Cypress and Beech
Avenues beyond the line already established by existing buildings.
No one spoke in favor of this variance.
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Ethel H. Bliss stated that she owns property at 2637 Garfield and that the new building should be in line with other houses and not protruded.
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:45 P.M.
The Secretary stated that he had measured the setback twice and Mr. Helton had it
checked after the first letter was received, and they had found it to be in line with
the other houses as they all had 15’ setbacks on that side of the street.
It was agreed that this request was in keeping with the surrounding property and should be granted for the following reasons:
1. That such variance is necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of a substantial property right possessed by other property in the same vicinity and zone but which is denied to the property in question.
2. That the granting of such variance will not be materially detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to the property or improvements in such vicinity and zone in which the property is located.
3. That the granting of such variance will not adversely affect the comprehen- sive general plan.
The following Resolution was prepared for consideration:
Resolution No. 242. A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLSBAD CITY PLANNING COM-
GRANVILLE PARK #2, IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, BEING PARCEL 16, BOOK
203, PAGE 151 OF THE ASSESSOR’S MAP OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY, was unanimous
ly adopted on Commissioner Hughes motion, seconded by Commissioner Jarvie.
A VARIANCE ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT 90,
AMENDED TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP - SHELTER COVE - CONTINUED
Chairman Grant read a report from Commissioners Neiswender, Ward and Davis who met with the City Engineer, Lowell A. Rathbun to make a site inspection of this proposed subdivision in order to study the topography and streets.
The Secretary reported that inquiry had been made of several cities where there
have been subdivisions with through lots with one frontage being on an existing dedicated street. There was universal agreement that at best through lots in sub- divisions are bad, but that when they do exist and one frontage is on an existing dedicated street, the subdividor is required to improve the existing dedicated street
according to City standards.
KEN EBRIGHT, 4444 Highland Drive referred back to the final map which had been
approved by the Engineering Department, Planning Commission and Council. He objected to putting in something which would not benefit the subdivision. He does
not feel they should pay for street other people will be using. He is willing to put in sewers as requested.
There was a discussion among the Commissioners regarding these improvements. Some of the Commission felt that the Commission were expecting too much of the subdivider in this case to put in all of these improvements and that the City should participate more on Adams Street since it was not likely there would be anybody building across the street in the near future and that Lots 6 through 13 are the
most precipitous . The subdivider is also required to improve Cove Drive.
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Mr. Rathbun stated that he believed Cove Drive would go on beyond this subdivision
at some future date.
Commissioner Jarvie suggested that some one should get a bull dozer and level off this property on Adams and believed it was too much for the subdivider to do.
Commissioner Davis stated that there are many cities where property is high above
the streets and property owners have to pay for their own improvements.
ROY KLEMA, Engineer. 41 5 Hale Avenue, Escondido stated that the original map
was prepared for Steven Macy and was allowed to go to the Planning Commission and Council for approval without street improvement plan. The map was approved and could have been recorded if bond was posted and improvement agreement entered into with the City. He feels that to improve Adams Street along Lots 6 to
19 would be an impossibility, as the street is improperly located. He has worked in other cities and Baldwin Park; all have half streets and always have a refund agreement for sewers and streets. There are lots in Laguna Beach similar to this property. He does not feel the people on the westerly side of Cove Drive would benefit by it. He suggested going to the center line and additional 10 feet. It would be most difficult to develop Adams to a standard section because it drops down.
The City Engineer stated they might be able to work something out as now it
requires 40' curb to curb width with a center line of 20'. They could eliminate the
sidewalk or reduce the curb to curb width and prohibit parking on this street. They could be asked to improve half of the street but by reduced standards.
MR. EBRIGHT stated that at this point he does not know where the center line of the street is and feels it is too big a problem for a subdivider and the City should participate.
MR. KLEMA stated that he has done several subdivisions in Carlsbad and has always been able to work something out with the City Engineer, Generally a
Planning Commission of any City puts in one sentence to solve these problems in
the Resolution.
MR. EBRIGHT stated that if this was the only solution. he would concur with the
engineers for some compromise.
TR AC Y PRIEST, Attorney, 51 East Foothill Blvd. . Arcadia stated that he represent-
ed Mrs. Bonnie G. Casey, 1301 Rubio Street, Altadena who owns Lots 8 and 9 Block D:, Bella Vista, and is not agreeable to granting an easement for a road along her property, and wants to keep the property intact. Mrs. Casey is not conversant with
what is going on at the subdivision and it may be that if she finds it will not cost her
anything and it does not hurt her property, something can be worked out. Mr. Priest did not wish to hold this matter up and would know of Mrs. Casey's decision
as soon as he talks to her.
The following resolution was present for consideration:
Resolution No. 240. A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLSBAD CITY PLANNTNG
CSF-MENDING APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED TENTATIVE MAP OF SHELTER COVE, was unanimously adopted on Commissioner Hughes motion. seconded by Commissioner Jarvie with the following amendments.
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1. Amend Items 6 and 7 because of the forecoming study by the City Engineer
and the subdivider's Engineer with the authority for the City Engineer to make
exception from normal improvements required due to the topography.
2. Exception if made for Cove Drive would be up to the discretion of the City Engineer.
3. Lot 74 would not be a buildable lot.
A short recess was called at 8:53. Reconvened at 9:OO P.M.
Commissioner Davis suggested that something be done to protect the adjacent
property to subdivisions. He stated there is a mountain of dirt next to his property
since Lebarr Estates subdivision was put in because the subdivision was graded to
raise the lots on all of the street.
The City Engineer stated that it is not in the City Engineer's discretion to regulate
cuts or fills except as relating to public safety or property damage. The Engin-
eering Department recommended that Yourell Avenue be extended in terms of
being able to accomodate traffic. Highland Drive was also recommended to go through to Jefferson Street. Mr. Rathbun does not feel the Engineering Depart-
ment was negligent in this matter. It is up to the Flanning Commission and
Council to regulate this.
The Secretary was instructed to prepare a Resolution for the next meeting to come up under Old Business, allowing the Planning Commission 30 days to make invest- igation and reports and that all future reports of the City Engineer shall state
specifically and in detail the effect which the proposed improvement in the sub-
division plan will have on all adjacent properties.
Old Business:
Report from Committee on C zoning on Roosevelt. Commissioner Hughes reported that their committee had talked to the people on Toosevelt Street and felt
that Commercial zoning should be brought down to the southeast corner of Walnut and Roosevelt to include all 4 corners on Chestnut and Roosevelt. The Secretary
was instructed to prepare a Resolution of Intention for the Commissions approval
at the next meeting.
Commissioners Ward and Davis gave a preliminary report on the extension of Tamarack to El Samino Real. They met with the Engineering Department to study this, and they also interviewed Mr. Briggs . Sr . , who objected to the road going through his property. They believed the proposed extension of Tamarack from Highland to RnW Drive as a secondary street should receive immediate considera- tion. From Park Drive up to El Camino Real requires further study and interviews
with property owners along that route.
Chairman Grant asked Commissioners Ward and Davis to study this and to make
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a report at a future meeting.
By prrbper motion the meeting was adjourned at 9:28 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,