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Home My WebLink About1963-10-08; Planning Commission; Minutesn : CITY OF CARLSBAD i Minutes of: PLANNING COMMISSION I I : Date of Meeting: October 8, 1963 : Place of Meeting: Council Chambers I Time of Meeting: 7:30 P. M. : of I I ROLL CALL was answered by Commissioners Davis, Ward, Grant, Palmer, Lamb and Sonneman. Commissioier Jarvie was absent. Also present were City Attorney Stuajt C . Wilson and City Planner Uhland B. Melton. : Davis APPROVAL OF MINUTES: { Ward : Grant 1963, were approved as submitted. i Lamb I * (a) Minutes of the regular meeting of September 24, i Palmer : Sonneman WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: I n I ::!!#I -. si I There were no written communications. I :::;:I P ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: I I I (a) There were no oral communications from the audience (b) The City Planner reported that there were no items pertaining to the Planning Commission discussed at the previous Council meeting. TENTATIVE MAP - KREMEYER CIRCLE SUBDIVISION - 13 lots. J I s : The City Planner requested that the Public Hearing for i the reclassification of this property be held first, and the : : City Attorney stated that this could be done and then the Commission could consider the tentative map next. L ! I I * { PUBLIC HEARING: n I i RECLASSIFICATION - To consider an application for i I change of zone from R-1 (One -family Residential) to R-3 ; : (Multiple-family Residential) on property lying between i : Buena Vista Circle and Jefferson Street, and northerly of ; 1 Laguna Drive, said parcel being a portion of Lot I, Sectiot i 1, T. 12 S. I R. 5 W., in the City of Carlsbad, more : particularly described as westerly 260' of Parcel 155-21- i 12; all of 155-21-13 81 16, and westerly 50' of Parcel : 155-21-15 of the San Diego County Assessor's Map. Applicant: Robert L. Meaas. The notice of hearing was read. Secretary Grant certified : as to publication of notice of hearing. The Secretary then I read the application and the signatures of owners of the ; i property. : : It was pointed out that Robert L. Means is in tb+ process i of purchasing the property but had the signatures of the ; : owners of the property requesting reclassificatioa as part! of the application. i The City PLanner explained the location of the property. i Chairman Palmer announced the Commission would now : hear from the applicant and any other persons who wished! i to speak in favor of the reclassification. ROBERT L. MEANS, 126 Pelayo, San Clementt, atated : that he had nothing more to add to the application but woulg be glad to answer any questions and he was not able to con* i tact one of the property ownera to get his signature but hi4 ; property is already aoned R-3. i T!he Chairman announced the Commission would now hear i : from all persons wishing to speak in opposition to the re- i I clas sification. I I I n I I 8 l I n s 1 I I I 8 I I 8 I , I I 8 I I c & I a I I. I I I I I b ! @ ! I I I I I n I I n I I I * I I I I ! r .' I I * * I l ', 8 '8 , *8' I I I I '..".,'~., '+, b8 * I I '* '., ', ', ',,'8, * I : of *$;$x, '+. 2 : I ',C.O W,&* ;I1 '::;;; I 1::::: I :;;::: I I :;1:;: I I I ;l;*l* *I:;; ::::,I i:;::: ::::I* !::;:! ;::I** a;;::: '11:;: :;;:*I :;*:;; :;::;; :$;: , ', '*, * -2- I * I Name '*'\, , "8&:\, '*+? 1 :""""""""""""""""""""-"""""""""""".""""~-""""""""- : Member -%'$',p.p "","" 4.; I I ;'*D:l 1 ; No persons present spoke in opposition to this matter. i i The public hearing was declarqd closed at 758 P. M. i The City Planner explained that the property is R-1-6 004 i eq.ft., and is landlocked so the owners have not been able; l;'4;; ; to develop it. He has been working with Mr. Means for 3 : i:::;: : months on this subdivision and the property owners on . !: 1;:;;; i Jefferson Street have not shown any interest in changing i : their zone classification. The lots in the proposed subdi- ; i vision will be in excess of the required 6,000 sq. ft. ; one I : lot will be in the center of the cul-de-sac and will be used; i as a recreation park with swimming pool fadlities which i ii;:;; I will be maintained by the owners in the subdivision. * I i MR. MEANS stated that he is in the process of purchasing ; the property and the papers have been signed and the mondy ;;::;; i is ready to go in escrow and this could be verified by check- : ing with the bank in the City of Orange. Sandy Koufax is i i one of the investors in the subdivision. Mr. Means also ; ; stated that he has 4 units going in on Hemlock. They will i ; have ingress and egress to the subdivision from Laguna ; Drive and they are not asking for City participation or i I help from anyone to develop the street. I I 1 After due consideration, a motion was made to recommend ; approval of this request for reclassification for the followk i ing reasons: I I I 1. That the property is adjacent to existing R-3 I I 2. That it is the only financially feasible manner of I I I I 1) I I '*I *I :;;:;: *I: t I I * I I I I I I 1 I I I : property . I * I I i opening the landlocked parcel. l I i 3. There were no oral or written objections. I ;:::a, *I I : Davis I I !xi I ; 1 Resolution No. 318. A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLSBAd Ward I :x;x; : i : W~'~iVIMISS10N RECOMMENDING RECLA$- Grant : : !x: i ; SIFICATION FROM R-! TO R-3 OF CERTAIN DESIGNATED Palmer i i :x; : i : PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, was unanimou4ly Lamb bi :x: : I adopted. : Sonnemanc a ;xi ; ; *: I TENTATIVE MAP - KREMEYER CIRCLE SUBDIVISION t- 13 lots. I i The City Planner presented the tentative map of Kremeyed ;!ii;i I I I I * I I ::I :: 1':; ::;;,I I;!!; I I I I iii:ii *I) I Circle, to be located between Buena Vista Circle and Jefferson St., and northerly of Laguna Drive, and explainid 4 1:;;:: :::;!I ::::I; I . :!::!: : that 12 lots will have apartment houses facing a new streeq. ;i::;: I * i The Secretary certified that there was no unsubdivided : i property adjacent to this property and then read the reco& : mendations from the various departments and agencies. J I The Secretary presented proposed Resolution No. 317 I incorporating the recommendations of the departments as i : conditions for approving the tentative map. i The City Attorney suggested that Item 19 be added to the 4 i resolution: "All property within the subdivision shall be : ; zoned R-3". 1 ROBERT L. MEANS owner and subdivider explained ,i i that they intend to put in a swimming pool which will be ; ; fenced in for safety and there will be a recreational area i this lot which will be owned and maintained by the property : owners of this subdivision and they will have equal responf i sibility for the maintenance and safety of the pool and ; : recreational area. If the pool is too much trouble .. they I I I I I b I I I I b I I I I I , b could have just a grass area. They will design the housesi to fit the lots and they plan to develop a portion of the lots: FRANK DEVORE, San Diego Gas & Electric Co. represe4- i themselves with 5 or 6 units per lot. I I I I I D i ative, was asked if the Company could put undgrground ; : power lines in like the Telephone Company is doing and he i I stated that it would be a desirable feature and the Company ; woutd cooperate with the subdivider but it would be done i i at the subdivider's expense. He explained that it would ; ; take less poles by putting them in the street than if served: : from the rear lot line. I I ; By motion of the Commission, it was agreed that : Item 19 be added stating that ail property within the sub- ; i division shall be zoned R-3 and that the second Item 11 be i. I 11 A and that the subdivision be contingent upon ingress ; ; and egress. : Davis ! Resolution No. 317. A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLSBAI? Grant I VAL OF THE TENTATIVE MAP OF KREMEYER CIRCLE: Lamb 1 I i A short recees was called at 8:50 P.M. The meeting I : reconvened at 9:OO P. M. I I I I : PUBLIC HEARING: I 1 I i CLASSIFICATION - To consider classification of C-2 ..I f.-j i Zone (General Commercial) on approximately 133.94 acre) I on property located 2 miles east of Palomar Airport and { ; north of Palomar Airport Rd. more particularly describdd a8 the N 1/2 of N 112 of Section 18 T. 12 S. R. 3 W., excepting the NE 1/4 of NE 1/4 more particularly des- ! i cribed as Parcels 221-010-2, 3 & 14, San Diego County ; Assessor's Map. Owners: Belson, Rubel & Sandru : Investment Companies. I I I I : The notice of hearing was read. Secretary Grant certified as to publication of notice of hearing. The Secretary then: i read the application requesting this classification. * * I I : The City Planner explained the location of the property and that the entire East Carlsbad Annexation 2.3 was not : * I The Chairman annoutrced the Commission would now hear : from the applic&.+nd any other persons who wished to : i speak in favor of the classification. 8 I B I I i J . S. BELOND, President of the Corporations, stated i : that he had prepared and submitted pertinent details that : i wouid be of interest to the Commisaion, and introduced : Mr. Jim Nelson who will be the mdnager of the drag strip) i The Chairman announced the Commission would now hear i i from all persons wishing to speak in opposition to the ; : classification. : No one present spoke in opposition to this matter. I D i The public hearing was declared closed at 9:13 P. Ad. i The City Planner explained that the property in the Countyf ; was unaoned prior to annexation and that it is deemed to be ; R-1 until a public hearing is held to consider classificatiop I 8 I D I Resolution No. 317 be adopted with the provisions that I I i Ward i -MMISSION RECOMMENDING APPRO+ Palmer i SUBDIVISION, was unanimously approved. : Sonneman f I I I I I 8 I * I I I I i included in this classification. * D I f I D l I I k I 8 I I I * I 4 and the applicants have submitted a request for C-2 zonei.f ' I I I I I I I I I I b I I I I ! @ I b' ' ,.* I ',,""\\ ', 8' '\ .I I I I \, '. ' ', ', '* I I -4 - I '\ ', t, ', \ , ', ',, " '+, I : of ,7&& 42, -,L\.6.4\ .t'+, : i """""""."""""""""""" * """""""""" I """""""; """""""_ 2% I"."" I :::::: i:::;; ;:::;; 4:;q ::::I; Ill i;:::: ;I:;:; i:::;; I I :;I:@: I I :I:;!; I 1 ::;;:: ::;;:: ::;I:: ::;::; I I :!:;:I f I I I I I I I I I I i Name "',;%,,, '. \,,\$), '.+ : Member \e'fN,++\&, I I 14 He elrplained that the entrance to the drag strip would be : 11:;; IIII(1 I ; from Palomar Airport Road to the southeasterly portion i of this property and that there is a reservoir in the north4 : westerly area of this property. They anticipate that abou4 50,000 cubic feet of ground will have to be moved to permit : this drag strip which is in the flight pattern of the Palomai I Airport. The applicants have volunteered to waive one of : l'l;a the uses in the C -2 zone regarding the sale of liquor. Thei I will serve soft drinks and later they will have restaurants: ::;::: 1::1,1 I The Commission discussed the sale of liquor. MR. BELOND stated that the drag strip normally takes I I I::I I i more than half of the land and and the Lower right hand ::I::: ; corner of the land will be of no use as far as the drag strip ::::;: : They may put in other recreational facilities and in the : @l:ll* unforeseeable future they may have liquor on part of the ::I:;: i annexation but not on the drag strip. I I i:;:;; i The City Attorney advised the Commission that they can ! :::I:: : not restrict the uses in a reclassification but they can put i i conditions under the Conditional Use Permit. 0 0 i The Commission discussed whether or not all of the-d : in the annexation should not be zoned at one time, and i asked Mr. Belond why he had not applied for M zoning. : I I f I f I I i MR. BELOND stated that from his experience in Orange : County he has found that they now have enough land zoned i : Industrial in that area to last for 40 years, and from the : : owners point of view he wauld withdraw the request if it : were zoned M as it would make the land valueless. He al& : stated that they own this piece of property now and are i buying the property up above the northeast corner of this ; : property and would like it included in the application. : It was pointed out that the Commission could just consider! i the part that was legally advertised, and since the parcel : I of property that Mr. Belond was describing was not in his! ; name and Kay Kalicka's estate had not signed for the re- : i quest, the classification on this other parcel could be heajd : at a later date. I I I would not be able to leave the land deemed R-1 and some :i' ; zone would have to be put on it. I I I I ! It was the general feeling of the Commission that because i the property is under the flight pattern that its uses were i ; restricted , otherwise they should consider the whole I I I I I $ I I I I I The City Attorney advised the Commission that the City I I I I 1 I I I I territory. I I i A motion was made by Commissioner Ward, seconded by : Commissioner Davis to approve this request for classifi- i cation for the following reasons: I I I b I I 1. That it would be the best usage of the land and i I : would be compatible with surrounding property, since it ; i is in a flight pattern. I r 2. That it will present a good location for sports to i i go in. l a I I I I b I I I I l I I 4 I 4 3. That no objections were voiced. * I l 4. That such classification will not be materially i i detrimental to the public weifare or injurious to the i property or improvements in such vicinity and zone in ; which the property is located. I I I I I I I 1 ** ! I -5- I I ! I **"""""""~""""""""""""""""~"*"""""""""""" I I Other members of the Commission questioned the legal i description of the property that was advertised since it : did not correspond with the application, and the City I I Attorney advised the Commission that the hearing would : have to be readvertised with the correct legal description: of the property to be classified. 1 Chairman Palmer apologized to Mr. Belond for this delay; I The motion and second were withdrawn. I I I I I I I I I I ! PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT I I I I I I I I I I I I I i Due to technicalities this hearing will be readvertised and i : heard on October 22, 1963. I i OLD BUSINESS: 4 I I I I I 4 I ! i i There was no old business. i NEW BUSINESS: i There was no new business. I I I I I ADJOURNMENT: 1 I I I 1 I I I I 8 I ! I By proper motion the meeting was adjourned at 10:22 P.4. Respectfully submitted, I I I I I I I ! : Recording Secretary I I I I I 6 I I I I I I I I b I * I I I I I I I I I 6 I I I I * I I * I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I * I :