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Home My WebLink About1964-11-24; Planning Commission; MinutesI I I I I I I I I I I I I I (a) Minutes of the regular meeting of November 10, Grant : 1964, were approved as submitted. I I I I * WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: * I I I I I I I t I (a) City Manager Mamaux - re: Mr. Edwin J. Heinlicb : Federal Housing Administration, offering his services as : an advisor to the Residential Committee for the Master i : Plan. Necessary arrangements will be made to have him : i present at the proper committee meetings if they desired. i ! I I i Thie letter was turned over to Commissioner Freistadt wqo will be working with the ibsideritial and Agricultural Comb i mittee. I I I I I * I I (b) City of El Cajon - re: Off-street parking in multid ple-family residential areas. They stated that they have : : recently completed a study of parking demand generated bi occupants of multiple residential areas and are preparing i i a brief report summarizing the findings. They would like; ; also to include a statement of the current off-street park-! : ing requirements of the various jurisdiction in San Diego ; County for multiple residential construction and would I : appreciate receiving this information from the City of : I Carlsbad. They also inquired whether the City feels the I : present requirements are satisfactory, and whether any ; I consideration is given to availability of on-street parking.! : They also inquired if the City would like a copy of this ref i port. i Mr. Thornton pointed out that the Park & Recreation Comf I miirsion made a proposal to the Council that off-street : : parking have landscaping. i Vice-chairman McComas asked that this letter be made i I a part of the records and that the staff send a copy of : : the Carlsbad Ordinance to El Cajon. This letter was alsoi I turned over to Commissioner Freistadt's committee. i Division of Highways - re: a Freeway progress map of 1 i The Vice-chairman instructed the staff to bring this to i : the Council's attention and to send copies of the letter I i and map to each Commissioner. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I # I I I I I I I (c) State of California Highway Transportation Age& District 11 and letter dated November 16, 1964. I I I I I I 1 I I I 1 I I ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - I I There were no oral communications. I I I OLD BUSINESS: - * I I 1 I I I I' I I I I I I I I *, '\ .8, '88 *', .*, I I I *,\,' , \ ' I I I I '.,'+, *8 ', ', \, , , * ' I I i Name 's~'"''~:<$ 1 I i of '8v&8,;,82s : ', '.,',, I I I I 4 Member \$$Q&? d, : :"""""""""'"""""""""'""""""""""""""""""~""""""""~~;""~"" 14 i Mayor Neiswender stated that he i'elt there was a need for: 111 ::I; : better control on M zoning and suggested that some tern- i ;I: 4:; i porary measure be taken to handle this such as handling ; ,;I::: ; this under a conditional use permit until something is 1 at;: 1 ;:::I; i worked out to make it more restrictive, in order to pro- ; ;i:':8 :;:: : tect adjoining or nearby properties. He stated that he : ::I,;; i:: #I 1 felt it was a matter for the Planning Commission to deter{ 1:;::: : mine what the Planners wished the City to be. I I I;@:;: I pi::: i Commissioner McCarthy pointed out that it was hard to de 11;;; I fine what can be placed in an M zone. He reported that ; ::::,; ;::::t : they had worked on this and had discussed it with the City ;;:':: Attorney, and called attention to the provisions in Sub- i , I:I' 4:;;: i paragraph 37 of Section 1300 of the zoning ordinance. I t'aI;I )*I I I ::;::: I 8 I I ! llS!Il I : Commissioner Freistadlt reported that he ad Commis- i sioner McComas had spent about 3 hours studying this : i and had studied the ordinances of Anaheim and Chula Vi& : After further discussion the Vice-chairman requested 1 I I I 1 that the staff obtain the Pomona ordinance to study. I I I # I I (b) Buena Vista Lagoon. I I I i Dr. Palmateer reported that at the last preliminary meet! i ing of the committees of Oceanside and Carlsbad, they : : read a list of the reasons that compelled that action be i i taken on the Buena Vista Lagoon. These reasons were : : supplied to the committees for their study. They have th$ i cooperative attitude of the City of Oceanside and they feel ; : that this is a logical time when such a study should be i pushed along. He reported that I/ 9 of the lagoon is in : : quasi-public ownership, being the Nature Conservancy an4 Buena Vista Lagoon Association. He asked for the legal : : opinion of the City Attorney about the private property as i some want water over their property and some do not, : and questioned the liabilities involved. 1 1 t I I I I I I I I I I I I I * The City Attorney explained that a private property owner! could fill his own property with water but that he could not: flood his neighbor's property unless the other property i owner wished this. If the water level was raised on his i neighbor's property, they would have the right to protest ; this through the courts, and property owners at the mouth: of the lagoon would have the right to let the water out of ; the mouth of {the lagoon. 1 I I I I i Dr. Fhlmateer stated that one of the problems is that the : I lagoon property is in the two cities and questioned forming : a district and who would control it. I 1 * I I s I I I I I I I I I I I The City Attorney explained that this could be done by a : joint powers agreement control, similar to the one they i have for mosquitos; or by zoning. There was consider- i able discussion, on whether it should be developed as a : i park and recerational area, a harbor, or residential de- I velopmeni and if they should contact thetgroperty owners ; : first. I b I I I I b I I I : Dr. Palmateer stated that there were a few things he would like to discuss with Mr. Taylor, Ass't City Manage). : of Oceanside before the resolution is presented. I I ! : NE\% BUSINESS: ! I I 8 I (a) Planning and Engineering Departments' request i for consideration of zoning for South Carlsbad Annexa- : : tion No. 1. 5. I I : Mr. Thornton presented a map of the annexation which is i east of the freeway and west of the railroad, and explain- : : ed that before this property was annexed to the City, I i there were 6 residences,one establishment that sells ! ! I I I I I I I I ! - 3- L I I I I I I '., 8'. 8 8- ,8 \\' I I I S I 8, 888'88 8\,8\,'u8 I I I I '8 88 '*, '8 88888, I * I '. '8 * ', 8 I I I I I Name '8%,'*% 888 % I 1 : of '8$G88$8,4@ '\& '9 : :""""""""""""-"""""""-"--~"""""""""""""""I"""""""" Member 8$p,++ "","" $8 : IJ ;::;I1 I" #;I::! 1I;':l I:;::* ;h:;; 1::;1; :::;:I I !::;i! ;::;la :::;&: 1:: ;!;;:I I :::;,I I I :::;:: I i::1:: I:'::: :;::;: :'I:;: ;]I::: :::a:: I :::;:; I :':;:; ::/,I ::II;: ::I 9,:;;: I I :::::; '\ '8? beer and a dog kennel. Since then there is a tomato ware-! : house and a trucking and warehouse going in. Khen the i I property owners contacted the City before annexation, bey : i asked if their present uses could be protected by proper i ; zoning, either by their application or by zoning initiated : i by the Planning Commission, and the staff felt that it ; could be. de explained that Wesco Flower Corporation 1 1:::;; : had purchased property at the southerly end next to the i ! Darwin Comtrqction Company. The property comes in : I:;lsI ! as R-1-6 and at the present time if the property owners : come in for a building permit it would be necessary to ; '11;;; :::;;; I HOWARD F. BARTON, 4970 Cass Street, San Diego, ; stated that most of the property owners want commercial : i zoning, and pointed out the uses of the progerty within thid : area and the owners of the prcperty. He stated that he i !:::': i felt it should be zoned M with property along the highway ; : being zoned C-2. He called attention to a 60' easement : i for a proposed road that will be turned over to the City at i I '11;s; : some future date. ! LAWSON P. MARTINEAUlt, '7250 Ponto Drive, pointed : :::;:I i out his property and stated that he wants to put in addition: ::;;;; : a1 grooming kennels. He stated that Mr. McDougal who i I:&* I owns the Sanitation Company could not attend the meeting ; : tonight but wished to have his property zoned commercial.! : The Vice-chairman stated that the Commission appreciati :;:;:: ed hearing the views of the property owners but the Com- : ii:::: : mission would like for the property owners to initiate i ;a!:;: i their own request for C-2 and M zoning. I' I!!I!l I II deny the building permit for commercial use. I I I I I I I I I I ::;,Il 81: I I I ;::i:i It) I I I ROBERT Mi ESTCN stated that he owns property at the i i southerly end of this annexation and he did not know it i ; was in the City. He bought the property because of the : I location in order to move Us truck terminal for flowers : up eventually from Encinitas. He questioned the effect : i this zoning would have on his business and stated that he i ; is not opposed to being in the City although he was not : i aware of it at the time he purchased the property. I I I I 1 I I I I (b) The Vice-chairman announced the Citizen's com- i mittee meeting for the Master Plan for the City at the Magnolia School on Monday, November 30, 1964, at : 7: 30 P. M. , and that Mayor Neiswender and-Paul Neal i from DMJM would be present. Dr. Palmateer called attention to the Home Section in : the Sundey Times which featured 3 or 4 pages regarding I lot sizes. i ADJOURNMENT I I I I I I ,I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I D I I I I 1 I By proper motion the meeting was adjourned at 9: 13 P. Mi I I I 0 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I t I I Respectfully submitted, DOROTHY M. SOUSA Recording Secretary I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I * ! !*i I I I . !