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Home My WebLink About1965-07-19; Planning Commission; Minutes" . .. ~. c & * I !CITY OF CARLSBAD !Minutes of: :Date of Meeting: :Time of Meeting: !Place of Meeting )"""'""""""""" "" * I D l PLANNING COFMISSI~Y I Regular I July 19, 1965 (Adjowmd I I 7:30 P.K. Meeting) Council Chambers I D I I D """~"""""""".""""""--"*"~"~~. I * !ROLL CALL was answered by Commissioner McCarthy, i :Sutherland, Lamb and NcComas. Commissioners I !Palmateer, Grant and Freistadt were absent. Also! :present were Assistant City Engineer C. R. I : Thornton, Planning Direc*or Schoell and Building 1 Inspector Osburn. 4 I !Chairman Sutherland asked the Planning Director ! :to take over the discussion of the meeting. I I :There was a general discussion of the General !Plan with some corrections discussed concerning : :the form and scope of the report. I D !The Planning Director stated that the first 32 i !pages and economics report involved a tremendous : i amount of work. The maps, reports and ordinances I :should be clear enough so different people coming: !into the City in five years or so can readily I I :understand them. i- :There was discussion on cutting out certain parts: jof the Revised Preliminary Draft Report that they: :felt were not important and incorporating part of: i the economics report. I I f Questions and objections were discussed regarding: :the revised Preliminary Draft Report of the I i ADJOURNMENT : :By proper motion the meeting was-adjourned at I : 10:42 P. M. to Thursday, July 22, 1965, at 7 :00 I i P. M. in the Council Chambers. I 8 I I I I f t I I I l I I I I I t I I t I I Proposed Master Plan. t I I I I I I D I I I D l I I I * I I Respectfully submitted I & c- i DOROTHY SOUSA I i Recording Secretary I I D 1 l * t I I I t I D l I I I I t I * I I D l I I I I t I t I 4 I I I 8 I * I I I I I I I I I * t t I b 0 l I I I * I l * 8 I * 8 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I * * D D l I b 1 l 8 I I * I I I 8 b 8 * 8 I t I I I I I I I * 0 I 8 b I I 8 I I I I 8 i I I I '. P DISCUSSION HELD BY THE CARLSBAD CITY PLANNING COMMISSION CONCERNING THE REVISED PRELIMINARY DRAFT REPORT 8Y DANIEL, MANN, JOHNSON AND MENDENHALL AT THE ADJOURNED MEETING ON JULY 19, 1965. Page 5, G - Preservation and development should be changed in regards to the statement of the development of the lagoon. Difference between statement and the map of the lagoons. Pa e 6 - VICINITY INFLUENCES - Paragraph 2- "The vicinity influences & Where is this map? Page 7 - Batiquitos was spelled incorrectly throughout'thb page. Under CARLSBAD PLANNING AREA, it should be Carlsbad Municipal Water District instead of Metropolitan. + Pa e 9 - Paragraph 2 should be "Carlsbad was incorporated July 16, Page 9 should include the Buena Vista Lagoon; why it was there and why they want to preserve it. See Page 25, September, 1964, report. &"li Pa e 10 - In September, 1964 draft, it mentions "detailed data Is to be an appendix? If so, what does it include? Land Use Map and studies should be included in the report. It was felt the third paragraph under Inventory of Existing Land Use could be omitted. Page 11 - Land Use - Berth should be Beach, Terramor shuld be Ter- ramar, etc. a le in the appendix to the general plan". Is there going "- Page 14 - Delete from second sentence the word "relatively". The area with over 25% slope could be used for parks and open green areas. f I * I I * I I * I L I I I I I )""""" .""""""""""""""" 2 ". I I I I I I I I I I I t I """",,."""""""~" Page 14, continued - There should be a map of the: : steep slow areas so they could be organized into: i contiguous open spaces if possible. There bras : discussion on having ridinq paths and walking and i hiking areas in these green areas and in drafnagei : channels that could bc provided in Planned Unit I Developments. i i Chairman Sutherland referred to the overlay map o!! : green areas PFlJM had presented at meetings in the! i City. The Planning Director stated that if they I : have done the work on these green areas, it would! i save a great deal of time if the City could have I ; a map showing it. I ! Page 16 - Mhy no percent of Gross under Utilities!, i I Railroad? Undeveloped Land? I I : #2 Central Area - omit extra "are" in last sen- : i tence. Areas #a, #5, and #6 - Land use studies i i The Planning Director explained that the City i I should establish R-3 zoning where it belongs and : i hold to it. Older buildings can be removed and : new buildings for multiple dwellings constructedi ; on these properties. A chart of a land use study; i of older dwellings would be helpful and important: : to preparation of future zoning maps. I I I I Page 17 - 81 Beach Area - "dilapidated" misspelleb. were omitted. I I 1 I $ : There was discussion on the zoning in Terramar i I and if it should be zoned R-3. The Planning I I girector pointed out that the blaster Plan indicatid : that Terramar would remain R-1. He stated that I i he is in favor of having some areas for single i. ; families along the beach. I I ! It was pointed out that flewport Beach still has i single family $59,fl00. homes along the beach and i : that Terramar is a unique situation. I I : :!as existing land [JS~ study of Housing Character-! istics made for areas 4, 5 and 61 They are part: i Page 1% - It was felt that "h'lodal Rent" and "Clos,$ : Array" could be worded better for laymen to under: i stand. An explanation of these terms from DFJM : :was requested. I i On Exhibit 5 - Beach Area, Central Area, etc., : f I should be given #1, 82, etc. I : Page 19 - There will be a requirement for an i additional 60 acres of land for Retail Commercial : facilities". How much retail Commercial land do i we have now? I Is there any information on percentage of apart- ! ments that will be rentals compared to owner i owned (condominiums)? This information would be :helpful in determining character of R-3 areas. i The 31,000 population figure was discussed and th(e I ways of est.imating this amount; would like better: : understanding. Also discussed r!as the upgrading i i and development of the downtown area. * I :The Planning Director pointed out that La Costa is a planned development and it is easier to plan! I and develop an area where there are no structures: i Oceanside is fairly well hrrilt up and would requipc : tearing down buildings to cpdate it. Carlsbad : : has a good situation in that it has ccnsidcrable : ! amount of land that has not been developed and i I B 1 8 1 b D I of City. I I I * I I I . * I 1 I I I I I I * * 1 ! .. 1 4 1 I , I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I -3- I I I I I I the downtown area has room around it to expand i I and can be revitalized. * I I The Planning Director emphasized the need for i industry in the City if they expect their childr4n : to remain in Carlshad, i.e., if the child is i trained in electronics, they will move to a locaf i tion where they can obtain employment in this lirie i industr,y into the City. i Page 20 - POPULATION AMI! ECOPI!OMICS. Rewrite : first paragraph as it is difficult to understand.! i Pa e 21 - Second paragraph, 1964 is not mentioned : ';.lumbers used should be the same as those used on: i Kxhibit 9, i.e., Level I (Roman flumeral) or the i i numbers on Exhibit 9 should be changed. ; "The construct underlying" , change to concept? i After' Level f'sentence add information listed at i bottom of page for 40,000 population. After I : Level I1 list 30,0Or! information from page 22, i etc. This will help clarify information presentid. i Page 23 - EXHIBIT 7 - Why do population percents 1 : of increase 1950 - 1960 differ between page 23 : and page 243 I I Exhibits 7 through 12 should be removed to the .!; economics report. Believe there are considerabl4 i numbers of errors in Exhibit 12. Paqe 29 - Flrst paragraph - What are the "2 major$ '. ; 1' groupings". 8 I ,- : Fourth paragraph - "the caliber ar~d type of I i development will follow much the same pattern as i : that currently prevailing" was doubted. They ; I would like more information on this conclusion. i : Last paragraph, which lagoon? I I I 8 I I I I of work. He felt they should encourage diversifiied I I I I I I I I I I I &bIt 12. - I I I I I. - .. .. I - I I I * 1 I b I I I I 4. * I I Page 30 - First Paragraph - What does each new fairlily : add to community in jobs, income, etc? This is i argument for or against Harbor, I Second paragraph - Should "229 percent" be "129 i i percent"? I i Page 31 - EXHIBIT 13 - Needs an explanatory : paragraph of how Chart works on this page for i i readier understanding. : tlhy did Gasoline Service drop? Is this reversed?: : "Other Ret .I' - What does this mean? i "b!one-Store Ret." - Mhat is this? i \.!hat does "Non-store retail" indicate? Agricultu&? : Put in some $ signs for clarification. * I I I I I I I I I * Check. 4 I I e I I I 9 I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I;*:;: I I :::I;: I I I ::::;: I I :;:;;; I I I ::!:'I I I I ::I::; I I 8 :;:::: I ;I:;:; I I ;I;l I I !:I::; I I Ilk1 I I ;:'I;: a ! a!::!: It '11 I I 1 I 1. I I I I $ $ I I I I I I I I $ I I I I 1 I I : Last paragraph should be "acre on smaller lots." : i In last sentence - delete afterTlot area" and ad$ i "hut Hith a density incentive on larger parcels ai ; ratio of 1 unit per 150C square feet af lot area : i could be developed. Pace 34 - yedium-Density Residential - Should havb ; paragraph lncludina conclusions reached on page ; jli? of Economics Report statinq number of single i :family units and multi-family units required. i High-Density Residential - Should have paragraph L i urging use of tatt, slim apartment.structures :rather than medium height, broad structures for : i the same density. Allows open land, landscaping,: I preserves vievjs. I I t $ I I I I I I 1. I I I I I l i 11i;t: :Population Density and Distribution - Should havej :::;:; i paragraph urging use of planned community develop+ iii:i: i rnent type land use for our open land to help pre-i I:;::: ::;i;: :serve open space and green areas while retaining : ;:I*,: i some density. I I ;:::I: l;l:l ;ll;*: !The Planning Director stated that the City should: l;;;:l :*I 8: :be !!orking with and reviewing the plan every five: ;:;;:I :years, and that the paragraph for open space on I ,:;t:: I::::: :tile oriyjnal report Page 32 for the summary was i 1;;::: i 9006. 1 ::::I: I I :;I::: I I i::::: Fage 35 - EXRIRIT 14 in error - review with D??JK. i ;::::: b I ;:i;:: /;I:: ::;;t: ;:/I; I I ;q:: . ~~ " :j:::; I I I n 1 I I I I i Pa e 36 - 3MV should revrite the tvho1e page as i i1t is poorly written. It should be summarized soy :you do not have to jump arcund. -2" e l