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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1966-05-10; Planning Commission; Minutes;h ICITY Ci' <t!Ri.SL. I I 1 i . PLANP4II;JG COMMISSION I I I :ROLL CALL was answered by Commissioners Smith, iSgtkerland, Palmateer, McComas, Freistadt and !Little. Commissioner McCarthy was absent. Also i :present were City Attorney Wilson, Planning Direcf Itor Schoell, Ass't Planner Johnston and Building t :Inspector Osburn. 4 I :Chairman McComas welcomed Mr. Robert T. Little as! ia new member of the Commission, replacing Mr. :Perry A. Lamb whose term had expired. I I I I I I I I I I :including Commissioner Sutherland miss him. I I I I I I !APPROVAL OF NINUTES: !April 22, 1966, were approved as corrected. I !(a) Minutes of the regular adjourned I I I I P I I I I I I I I I I I I I I $1 ttle I I I I :WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: I :(a) Council Action on Planning Natters. The :Chairman asked that this be considered under Old !Business. I I i(b) Letter dated May 9, 1966, from Jerry Rombotis:( !that Items 5 (a) and (b) for the reclassification: :and Precise Plan and the tentative map of Laguna j IRiviera Subdivision be withdrawn, and stating I I :that they are resubmitting a new tentative map : :and Precise Plan of Laguna Riviera Subdivision en! :compassing a combination school-park site. I I iThe Commission agreed to permit these application4 :to be withdrawn. i ORAL CObIMUNICATIONS: !There were no oral communications. :PUBLIC HEARINGS: :(a) VARIANCE - To consider a reduction in lot :width from 60' and reduction in lot area from :7500 sq. ft. on the following Parcels A and 8, !width reduction to 53.40', area reduction to I :';:;: i7164.3 sq. ft. Parcel C, width reduction to 53-34' :on property located between Stratford Lane and : jKnowles Ave., Easterly of Pi0 Pic0 Drive. Appli-i I" I:;:;, 'I :cant: Joseph J. Whitfield. !Notice of hearing was read. Secretary Palmateer Icertified that property owners in the area were ; :notified of the public hearing and then read the : i application. I I I * I I I b I I r :representing Kamar Construction Co. requesting I I I I I I I I f I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I :ii:;: ;;/I* ;::::: :::;:: I ::;::: I :::::: :I;:;: ::;:;: ;: ,;:::: 'I I :::;If I: I ;::;:; I I i!i;:t I I :i:::: I I I I :::;I: I !:pi! I I I I I I 'k I I I I ! ;: I I' I I I I I I I I I & ', '8 ', 'x 'S \,'. *",\'.\ .I I 1 ', '+ '\, ', ', 11 I '\ ', '8, ',, '"'8 I t I -2- Name "\,'\$& ',88% I I : of '%% 8,L.d ,>, $+. ,#&, ! : . : Member ~~$f.~@~, .I ;"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""-""""""~""""""""" """"- I I 19 i:::;; :There were no written communications. ;::@I: I ::;::; :The Planning Director explained that on the ori- ;:"I' 1::; iginal lot split map there were some incorrect I ::i; (figures and this had been discussed with the City I I::::: jft.i;%orney and he had stated this matter could be 1 18:;;: ;I 1) :corrected at this meeting. He stated that the I 1:j::: Irllaps before them were corrected and the maps that ::;:;; :were sent to the Commission have the corrected I I ii I4 ;figures on them. The Planning Director explained i IJ:: ;:I::: jthe lots and sizes and that there was a lot split: 1::::: :on the portion of the property fronting on Knowle4 :;::I: IO, ;Avenue at an earlier date, however, no record had: :I:::., 1: It :been found of a variance granted. He reported thdt i::::: Ithe former City Engineer Lowell A. Rathburn, had : :;'a:; :sent a letter on August 5, 1963, in regards to th4 i: ::;i :petition for a street opening and improvement 8 I /::;; ::;: 11(11 :filed with the City by owners of approximately i ;I :: i68% of the proposed street opening and 1911 Im- i I::!:: iprovement Act proceedings can proceed further, a ; jp;:1 18101; !deposit of $150.00 for each potential lot created: I '1: ;:ji:l f :(as stated on the petition), must be made with th4 :::I:: ;City by the interested property owners, to be useq . :::;I jfor preparation of maps, plans, specifications 1 :::1;i :and related engineering work necessary. The amoudt iiliii jdeposited shall be applied toward each respective: :::::: 81 :assessment or refunded upon completion of the wor!. ;The letter stated that the preliminary plans in- : :;lll: ldicate this property would realize 4 lots from I 8 :; jthe proposed improvement; therefore, the necessary! :deposit required for this property would be $6GO. i :to be paid before Aug. 31, 1963. $600. was paid I :on Sept. 24, 1963. A similar letter was sent to i iblrs. Jane Hunt. This is a standard procedure for I !street openings. The $600. deposit was returned : :to the property owner when the work proceeded. :The City has another group of property owners who I 8 16 :wish to come in and open a street in their block jand are interested-in'this matter. I I ;: !The Planning Director presented an alternate pos- ! :sible means of spliting the property and a block i :study map of the area. He pointed out the pro- : :perties that may request variances to develop and i :ways Of 'deVe10ding certain .pro erties .by a-cquiring: :additional property when the Freeway IS widened ; !in order that variances would not be required. I !The Chairman asked the applicant or his represent; jative and any others who would like to speak in I :favor to do so. !ER. DON. HOLLY, licensed Land Surveyor stated he i jrepresented the applicant who is not a profession: :a1 land developer. He stated the applicant was :approached with a petition and was lead to believd :he would have 4 lots when Stratford Lane was put : !in. He stated that he was not in favor of grant-j jing subarea lots but since this is an exceptional i ;circumstance, he felt the Commission would grant : :these variances. He stated that the petftion :bearer, Mrs. Jane Hunt, led them to believe that .!. :the City would allow them to have 4 lots there : :and he felt there was a misrepresentation as thesd !people have isvested everything they had in this i :property. I I I '8 I I I I I 1 I 41 I@ 114 iii:j: ;I;, ;; ;!:::: I1 :::j:: ::::I; :::;:: ,;I;## ;* I 11:;:: I ii:::; :::!I; $9 ;i:: I I 1:::: I1 I I I t I I I I I I I I I I * I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I 4 I I I I I ! ! c h I I * ', ' ', ' 1' I I 8' *' I I I ', '8 '\ I I I t, 8, '8 ', '\ I I '\ ' ' '8 '\,", 1 I -3- i Name 8t,'4$, 8, I I : of '.S+&, t?&\Q,q\ ;.+. ' x. : Member '$$@\+@$b84 I I :I::;: I I I I I I I I I , 8, '8, ', ', '8 I *\ 'd 1 :""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""~""""i""""""""" "","" !The Commission inquired if they were talking ::;::; :about the same lots, and the 10' street dedicatioi :;l:@l 18 :on Know1 es. 1I:;la I ::;::: 1 :::I:: !MR. HOLLY stated that there would be 2 lots front-! !!t:ll iing on Knowles and 2 lots fronting on Stratford ;e;: 8;:;: :Lane, and. he had met with the Planning Director : ;j Io !I;: !and this map was prepared in accordance with his ! :I, 11 :specifications. The Planning Director cleared : i/:ii! ithis matter by saying that he had worked with blr. i :::Ill 'I:;;: :Holly to locate the lot lines on the application ; :8l;8@ 11 !in such a manner that the lot would be the best I :;:::: ;:i:;: !possible within the request if the variances were: #I I' :granted. I I i::::: hR. JOE WHITFIELD stated he felt Mr. Holly had 1 ::::;; jdone a good job in presenting this matter, how- : I::::; :ever, if there were any questions he would be glaq :i::;: :to answer them. He stated that he has owned the : :::::; ;property since 1946 and since Stratford Lane went I !!::;: ;through his property, he has dedicated twice as : 4:::; ;I:::; !much property as the other property owners. He i :a:::; :stated that they live on the southerly side of : :::::: !Stratford Lane and have a very nice house that he i I:fi8#1 I ;::;:; :rents out on Knowles Ave. I :!:I:; I :!i: !MR. HOLLY stated that the house on Knowles Ave. ii !:;I I i::iii j20' from the front property line now and if 10' ; 11 :is taken off it would be 10'. This was a legal i :;I::: ;l:a:8 !building site in the eyes of the City and were : /;:;: :granted a"1oan on this house. I I ;:#:I 11 I I I :;:::; :;:::I !The Chairman asked if others wished to speak in i :;:::: 811 jfavor or against these variances. I I i:::;: I I I ;: ::;: !No orie spoke. I /:::: I: I I I I ;:;::: :The public hearing was closed at 8:18 P.M. I:'::: I I I ::;::: * :::;I; !The Commission discussed the fact that just be- ! ;::::: !cause a variance was granted at another time was i I::$; :no reason for granting these variances now; ::a !whether the Title Insurance Company concern them- :selves with zoning on the property; that the map : I:;::: :prepared by the City showing the widening of the i :e::;: :freeway presented an ideal way to acquire other : :::;I; :::::; jland to get the correct amount of lot area, how- ! l:@l;l :ever, this might take several years; the use of I ::::I: :I:@ jthe land and the need for relief; that the previ-i #tI::: :ous variances requested on the Ennis and Batchel-; ;::::; !der property had different conditions; the ten 1 :::::; ::;lll :foot dedication on Knowles Ave. to straighten out! :11;:; ithe jog when street improvements are installed; : ;::::; :i:::: :that it may take a complicated deal to acquire I ;::::: !a portion of the Hunt property; similar variances: I#:!:; :granted in the area. I I i;:;:: I 8 :l::!: :The Commission also discussed granting the lot I ::I:;: !width on Knowles. I ;: ;::: I 6 ::/I; I I:;:;, :The City Attorney stated they are asking for 3 I:;::: !separate variances and the Commission could grant! :i:iii :the lot width on Lot A and could- legally grant : I1 1;:::: :11;4; !anything less than the total requested. I I ;::;:; I I I 1;:;:l !Commissioner Fresitadt stated that he was in favolf !::;:! :of granting the variance for width frontage on : :':i!i iKnowles if they could get the 10' street dedica- i ;:ll;l ::::I: :tion on Knowles. I I p'::; ;::;:: t I :::::; :, I I 1*1111 '::;:; 1 I I I:;;:, ! I :::;;; I. I 'I I I I t I I ::::;; '1:;: I I 01 I I I I I I 1) I I !!:iii ;::: @I1 11 '0 1*111 I I I I I 01 I 1 I I ,- -_ I I *, \. 88' I I I I I S, '\,'888 'x, 888"8 I ', 8, '8 ', '8 '8 t I I Na me 8's '*& '8 '$$, i I I "$&8, "\ \* I : Member 8% p.+$? :;:;:I 1:::;; ::::;; ;:::;4 I ;:::I! 1:;8#1 I* :8I:;l :::::i I I 4;:: i 1::::; I i:;;:; 84 I 1:;;;: I::::: I :::;:; I I j!::;: 11 I :Smith : :)(x: : : I I 1 '8, '8, 88 '8, 88,"8 i I I I 1 : Of ',b$ \ 9'4'9- : I ' '84 I -4- :"""""""-""-"""""""""""""""""""~""""""""'""""""""" "","" iMR. WHITFIELD stated that after establishing a /comfortable home he has no desire to sell. The : :Commission are considering granting lot frontage i :I :;:::I Ion Knowles, but he is not a developer and is not i ;+:1 I 11 :interested in acquiring additional property. I :After further discussion a motion was made to !adopt Resolution No. 434 denying the variances rei :quested for the following reasons: iapplicable to the property. : 2. That such a variance is not necessary for i :I:;:; ithe preservation and enjoyment of a substantial : !:::;I !property right possessed by other property in the: :same vicinity and zone. 1::t41 i 3. The granting of this variance would be de- I i::::: :lI; Itrimental to the public welfare. !Planning Commission Resolution No. 434. A RESOLU-jSutherland/xi :x: i i' :TION DENYING VARIANCES ON PROPERTY BETWEEN STRAT- IPalmateer : I :xi ; : ;FORD LANE AND KMOWLES AVENUE, EASTERLY OF PIOI :WcCornas i :xi ; 0: ;PIC0 DRIVE, was adopted by title only and furtherjFreistadt ;x: ; jreading waived. :Little : : :xi ; I :OLD BUSINESS: '1111 :I 14 L tl:! I 4 I I I I I I I 1. That there are no exceptional circumstances: :I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I :I1 I I 1:;;:: I ::;I:: I 1::::: (a) R-T Zoning The Planning Uirector presented ! I;*::: :a map of the R-T zones in the City and called at-; :$:: :tention to the R-T Zoning and Conditional Use 1 I :ii:ii :Permits on Page 37 in the new proposed zoning or-! Idinance prepared by DMJIS. He stated he felt these ::;:I: ::;::: :were two major difficulties in the zoning ordin- ::jr:: I1 : ance. I I ;: ;::: I I I ii+; :The Chairman asked the Planning Director to work I (I:::; ::::I; jwith the City Attorney on these matters and that : :::ti; :the Commission study them at an adjourned meeting! 4:::; :of the Commission. I I ii:;:; ;#I 11 I I 1p:;: ICommissioner Sutherland inquired if the City Attot- :;:;;; jney haa done anything on the zoning of the Buena i ~~:;:~ :Vista Lagoon. I I 1 :ti:!: ;: I I ::;: !The Planning Director stated this ordinance had i :+;; !just come in and he had just glanced through it i ::;::: :;1:1: :and asked the Commission to study it. I I ;I;l:; I I :Ii:i: :(b) Buena Vista Lagoon. Commissioner Palmateer i ;ll;l~ 1:Il:: ireported the committee has scheduled a meeting fot :;:;I; :the coming Friday to consider planning and action: 11:;;; :::::I jfor a State Park at the Buena Vista Lagoon. He ;:;I;; :reported that Bill Craven, Ass't to the County : ;::::: !Supervisor, introduced the resolution to the I ::;,I: 1,;l~ :Board of Supervisors. Commissioner Palmateer I stated they have received approximately 1000 post! i:;:;: !cards suggesting a Buena Vista Lagoon be a State : :Park. These cards came from all over the State jand some form out of state. There were a lot of i :other postcards addressed to the Nature Conser- : i vancy; some were representing groups who had ; passed resolutions supporting this. He stated I i that Mrs. Shaw, Secretary of the Nature Conser- ::;::I i vancy, has been trying to classify the correspon-: ; dence to help him and his secretary. Many letter! I are addressed to him urging him and his committee: ::!::: i to work on this. I I i:;:;: I I 1 :Iltla lI('II I I I I 11 1(1111 I I I I I I ;11::; 1;;I;l ;I 1:::: ;::/:! ;::;:; ;::~:~ ,I;::: I 1 ::,I,, i:;::: 1:;::: I:;::: :14:: ;:I * I I I I 1:;::: I v I I ::;:;: 1 I I I :::::: I I I I i!:;:: !I!l I I c I I I 1 '\ ', .\ ', '6 'b I I I *8 \' \ " I -5- I '\ 8 ', '8 '% I t I I I 8, '\,",, ',, '*,", I I t8 \\ '\, \8 ",> I : N a me \\, '*%, ", I $!+ : t I i of '@@,,;,,+* : 1 I 1 I :""""""""""""""""""""""".""""""""""""""~""""""""," I Member ~@E"P\,~~d~,o~, "":'""kt 1 I I ,I,,: !The Planning Director stated they vi11 be in need! Ifor a Secretarial Staff if any one has secretarie4 :::::: I that may be able to help. Mr. Sutherland and blr.: Ill 1;:::: :Little stated they may be able to provide some i 1;; 1::: jsecretarial assistance. 4 4 I 11;:j I I I :::;I: : (c) Memorandum dated F4ay 6, 1966, from the City i !;;:;: !.,lanayer regarding the reclassification of certain: ::::;: I::::: jproperty between Laguna Drive and Elm Avenue. I ;::::: :Applicants LPR and Aorton and Dorotnea E. Nielsenj ::1:11 :'I; :The Council denied the application as submitted ; :::::; : and referred the matter back to the Planning 1 !;11:; 41;tb ;Commission for further study as to a precise plan; :::::; land access to Elm Avenue. :The City Attorney stated that the Cornmission had !a 40-day period in which to report back to the : :Council and if no report is made within that time: !the Council may assume that the Commission are in! jayreement with their decision. The applicant can: : resubmit a nee! application with a precise plan. :The precise plan is really initiated by the Plan-: :ning Commission, however, the applicant vtould I :prepare the plans for a precise plan. !The Chairman asked the two new Commissioners to ! :acquaint themselves with this matter. I 1 :Comissioner Little stated there is a need for i !more clarification of the access roads to the : property. :::;:I ::;;:: I I 41:::; I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I ! . ~ .- ... " # I I I. . I !A imotion was made that this matter be tabled for :Smith 140 days since the applicant is present, and that !applicant come in if he wishes with a precise ; I I :Little i~lan. I I I I I # iTf.19 City Attorney stated the applicant would have: to time his action so it would give the Commissiod : time to take care of this and get it before the i Counci 1 within 40 days. : NE\{ BUSINESS: i (a) Proposed Resolution No. 435. The Planning i I Director explained this is on the Laguna Riviera ; !Subdivision that came before the Commission in 3 : : parts before. The applicants withdrew the former! :applications and are again reclassifying their i property by a precise plan and have submitted a : :net! tentative map. He reported working with the I i developers and schools and they are all in har- ; :mony with the proposed school site. The develope+ has had to relocate the road around the school ; : and park site and reduce the number of lots from I : 329 lots to 305 lots, and have submitted a new : !precise plan showing the school and park site and! : proposed zoning. The precise plan has to be I initiated by the Commission so he was reconmendin4 Ithat the Commission adopt Resolution No. 435 i initiating such a precise plan. I I 1 I I I I I I I I 1 I :::I:: 1;;i:: I ;:;a:: ::::i: I I :::::; I ;I1@l8 I I ;;!::: I 1:;::: I I I I ::;::: I I I I :::;4i IO I I I I 4:::; 8 :@I I ll;:;l 11 I I f ::1;1; I ;::I;, I 11 I I I I I I I ! l!l:@! I 1 I I' , \' b ', I I I I ,, \,,'\,, '.,'x, s " ', i I I 'V8 ', '\ ', '\,'\\ I I -6- \ ' ' t I I i N a me '\, '.5$ 8". ; I : ;xi : i LI I I I 8, 't ' \ \\\, ' I ; of ',+to\ ' i Resolution 140. 435. A RESOLUTIOi:1 OF THE PLAl?dPIING :Smith , :It ; COI~~~ISSION OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD DETEF?i411tIING /Sutherland! $ :xi ; !THAT A PUBLIC HEARING 1,JILL BE HELD TO COHSIDER :Palmateer : : :x: i I I RECOi4~~IEWDIISG A PRECISE PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL IP4cComas i :x\ : 1 AiID ORDERIfJG ldOTICE THEREOF TO BE GIVE>l, was readiFreistadt ; jx:x; I ; : in full and adopted. :Little ; ;xi ; ' i (b) Sat1 Diego Planning Congress Director. It was! ::;;:I i the consensus of the Commission that Commissioner: :::;:I :Freistadt, who has been the Alternate Director, i I take Gen. i4unn's place as Director. !The Chairman explained that they meet during the i :day in different places, and Commissioner Freistaat i agreed to be the Director. : an early evening study of the R-T zoning and I :;;I;: iThe Commission agreed that the adjourned meeting ion day 12, 1966, be adjourned to Friday, td4ay 20, : I1966, at 5:30 P.4. in the Council Chambers to I ! study these matters. i ADJOURXL'lENT: I 1 i By proper motion the meeting vras adjourned at :I.!. in the Jefferson Street School Cafetorium i the presentation of the Small Craft Harbor : feasi bi 1 i ty report by DPlJPI. I I :"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""-l""""""""~-;"","" ; Member ..$@,+J.Jq+ ,o y.pp8~'. i I 0 4 IJ 1) 11 I I I I I I I I /;:: I l:#;l I i;:;;i I 1::ll I lt1;;I I I ;;:;;I ;;::;I ::it: i I ii;;;: I I iiii;; I 1;;:;l I I ;:;:;: I ;::::i ;::ii; 4:;;; I1 I I I I I I The Chairman recommended that a date for conditional use permits be set. I 11( 1 I I I I 11)111 ,- I I I I I I 8 I I 1 I I i 9: 28 P. :4. to Thursday, Play 12, 1966, at 7:30 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I I ! Respectfully submitted, I I -c Recording Secretary I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I s 8 I t I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I 1 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 8 I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I I $ 1 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 8 I I 1 I I ! 1