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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1967-07-11; Planning Commission; Minutes1, 1 *' , ', '\ -8, '\ *\ *\, I i CITY OF CARLSBgB i Date of Meeting. July 11, 1967 i a me *\ **+> ',, '?$>, i -: Time of Meeting. 7:30 P. M. i , of '$Q. *\ ,sr,. i 8 \\ '. * ' ' I 8 I & I - I ' , ' '\ ', 'b .- - ~ -: Minutes of: I ' ', '* ', ys, I ~?{,*:?{+,y;,q:.~> ' i.-eJn~n..(rf-.~_~e-~jns.-... - _. - ___-_.. - ___ _____________________ -______--:__-_________~__________,"--,I : Member ',o .,~..pp ,o', I 4.. ;:::;; ii:;;; :;::a' :;i;;:: '1 ; ; ,.; I1 ; : PLANNING COMMISSIOl '., "'b '" "', 1- Ci!.,t,?:il Chambers I : ROLL CALL was answeced h~, Lommissioners smith, : Cotrxissioner Jose was present at 7:34 P. M. Also! i prespnt were City Attorney Wilson, Assistant City; 'I, I*. : Engin?er Thornton, Building Inspector Osburn, and! i Planning Director Schoell. I : APPROVAL OF MINUTES: !Smith ! (a) Minutes of the. regular meeting of June 27, iPalmateer i I :x; : ' 1967, were approved as.corrected. :Su,therland: ; :x! ; : ; I I' McCO-~T, Palmateer, Zuth<rland, Little and Voorhejs. I ii;:;: : k ;x: : !Little 'I ; ; :x: : : I :Voorheis : ; ;x.! : : : I i::;:I; i i-' I ; 1 ' I I .;J::;; I. I ':!!!;;; I I I i;;:::; * I ;a:::;: 1. I *I;;:*! ;I:::; ~ 1 I;:::': ii;;;;; I .. I ;: :';;ii: .I ::;I**; I' ' ;;I:@': I" 1:;;;; Encinas and Interstate 5 Freeway. Applicants: * I :;::;; f I : Paul and Magdalena Ecke. I I :'::'; i 1 ;::;:;; * ;p;;; i Notice of the hearing was read. Secretary I ::;:;:: : Palmateer certified that publication had been I "I;;; i i given and property owners in the area were notifibd ;:::I :I:;;,; I : of the public hearing and then read the original I ;::I:: i appli'cation requesting a zone change to C-2, and ; ::;:I:: ; then the amended application requesting a zone i ::;ii:. @*I;: i change to C-1. i Letter from Earl H. Thompson, Attorney for Owner,! . *:;I;:; :II:;; i : dated June 9, 1967, requesting that a precise plab ::::::: ! be initiated concurrently with the above zone i : change. I !:;:I: I I 1;;:;: i Letter dated June 21, 1967, from J. Dekema, I -1 q;::: : District Engineer, Division of Highways, stating ! ; ; ; ; ;': their right of way acquisition for the freeway 8 . /;:;: is complete in this area and they find no conflicit. ;:*:I; :::;:; ; with their interests in this proposal. 8 1;:;;; : : e 1; :.: i The Planning Director explained his written : report to the Commission on the facts resulting i ;:;*;I : ,from the staff investigation of this property i 1:;:;; a- ;ll;l~ : and explained that the properties at the South- ; :.; :.; I 1 ; ; ; : ; east and Northwest corners of Interstate 5 F-ree- i ; way and Palomar Airport Rosld had been.rezoned to; ;;::I; '8:;;; ; C-2 and Precise Plans had been adopted on these : ::;'*I I. I;'::; properties. He pointed out that the revised sign ; 18;' : was submitted by Rick Engineering Company after ; ;i+; : i he had written his report. I I;:;:;: 1 I ::'*;:. I I I -:4::;: l:ll I I I ;::':' I t:;:;: : I I I I i:;;:: 1;; * I I :::;I: I I I ::;;;.4 #I ' I I I ;I:':: I I I;;:" ~~ - . :.,::: I I I :* *I I I. t :McComas :' lx: ;xi ; ; ! 6" I I. I I(: : WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: ; There were no written communications. : ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: i There were no oral communications. i Commissioner Jose was present at 7:34 P. M. i PUBLIC HEARINGS: # I:i;:#; (a) RECLASSIFICATION and PRECISE PLAN, continued: ';:i;:; I l 8 I::;:;; * I I I I I * I. I I * I I I I r ,I ~ I! I : To consider a zone change from R-A-10,000 to C-2 i I and for a precise plan.on 0.717 acre on the South: : erly side of Palomar Airport Rd. between Avenida i ::'I;: I 4 ' I I I ;I' J- I I 9 8 I ;!;;;:, I 11 *::1a8: 8 ;I, 1;: I1 ('I'I' 1 I 8 1 'l:a .I ;I,::; I. :b '11s I 1 I I * I I j I I. 1 I I I I I I -2- '1 *, *-8 * 8' I1 L 1 I I I I I I 8, 't ', I \ ' 8 8' I' I , I I s.8, \, , 8, . ', \' '. I : N a m '\ '.$ ', 82,. I : of '.S..C> b . *$, : I i ' .3,. : Member ,d , .., ,/' fl. ;" -" - - -" """ - -" "-"""-----""-I. " - - -" - - - - -" - - - - - -e- - -- - - - - . - -:- . - -" - """ - - - - ".C-, - - ,o $0 yJ. I I ;;:*.I 3 : The Planning Director presented a chart shuhltly 8 ::::I: Freeway Oriented Services and proposed services ::-;;: : at interchanges between Las F'?res and Via Cls La :;;:;: ::; ::: Valle and questioned the need fJr a service sta.ti& : at this site. ;ll:ll I I ;:'I:: 1:::;: Chairman Sutherland pointed out there are 4 exist: iII;iI I ing service stations within the City at Freeway ; ;;"" ;:;: : Interchanges and 4 more service stations have bee? ::,;I; ::;:;: i approved or are under construction, and this will; : make the 9th service station. i The Chairman announced the Commission would now i ' 1 :.; : ; ; : hear from the applicant or his representative and i :::::: :::;:; i any others desiring to speak in favor of this I I *)I i application. ' 1-1 ; : 1 * ::I;:; I1 I t :::;,I ! MR. RUSSELL GROSSE, Attorney representing Mr. and :;'I;: i Mrs. Ecke, stated the property was before the 1. ::::;: I ((e 8; : Commission when the owners had an application in i ;::::I i for an I'M" zone and it was denied. Later they ; ;::!:: : submitted an application for I'M" zone and for a : I:;,:: ::;I;: : precise plan but withdrew the app1,ication. Mr. i ::;:;:, Grosse stated he wished to go on record that the ; :I::*; ; applicants would comply with the reduced sign and i . ;:(::; ;::;:I I if the Planning Commission se.e's';'fi"t .t.o put restric- ' ;::I:: : tions on the property, they would comply with thefl. ;I:::: I He questioned the Planning Director's remarks re-: :I 1:;: 1:::;: : garding a need for a gas station at this locationi i::;;; i and that there would be a safety hazard entering ; ';;I :::I 1: : this property. He pointed out that the owners of: '. ; : :i:: i the property in the surrounding area are the * : applicants; who have a company negotiating with : (l((l* 1:;::: i them that has made an extensive study of the ;I*:I; : property and report they have a waiting list for i *:;*:I : this property. He introduced Mr. James Redding, :::::: :@I:;; i former Traffic Engineer in the City of San Diego,: :i::;; : and now a private consultant who made a traffic i :d:;; I ;::a,; I ";I I I : : ;.; I ' ::;*:: I I I I " , <\ I I I 4 I I ;:;::: I1 I I. :* 118 I I F ;: 18, I ;:;::: I study of the area. 1 I r MR. JAMES REDDING stated he had worked for the : (l(*I( *I : City of San Diego for 36,years and was the Traffid :::I;i; :; i Engineer for 30 years.'. He was a long time memberi : of the safety committee so he is interested in : i traffic safety. He discussed some of the points i :; I :.I; : to look for in studying traffic safety, i.e., the: :;I:;; ;#:I i width of the driveway approach; sufficient sight i ::ii;: ; distance; turning signals; speed; volume of # * :;@el: : traffic; known stopping distances needed at vari-i :I:;:; ;::::; . I ous speeds. He stated he made a study of the ared "11) ; and the plans for this station call for 30 foot I :;;*at ;;I;:' i driveways which would be adequate to pull into : 1. ; ;;:!:I ; the station without having to slow down too much.: lB'*;: He paced the speeds of cars on Palomar Airport i 4::;: i:::;: : Road and the average speed was 35 to 40 miles per: I ::;:I; hour. He reported seeing no excessive speeding. ::I;:: 1 I I I ;::;:; : When questioned regarding the intent of the I :;:;:; ;::;:; developer to raise the site level, Mr. Redding : stated the service road should be raised.a li.ttlei ::;e::. 1:::;: to provide better sight di'stance and drainage. I I i:*::: : He stated there would be no problem when you I I I$;: :I I 1 :; I-: I' : perfect control before entering Palomar Airport i ::::i: i Road. $:'/ I I :::;:; i::;:; 8 I ::::I: I I 4:;:; :;:4;1 I ;;'I :I,:;: I I i. #:;:;I 1: .. ." ~ ~~ ~ :*a!#: :ai& .. 1:;:;: I -8 : leave the station as the drivers would be under I 11:1; I I I * I I * I I I I I 4 I 'I I 8 . -, ', -, . \ I I 8 8 I I 8 8 8 i ~s rnc *t.,;:p. 8 . 8 8 : Yember *C''"\F \ 8' 8: 8 I I 8 '8, 't '\, ', '\ ', 8 c -3- h 8 '\ '. 't, ', ',, '\), 8 A?:, . *?d. I I : of 'J.'??;. <>&> : :-"""""""""""--- """"""""""""""-"".-".-""" "!".."""""""""","" .o $0 ..Pk '',a'\ i When questioned reg,lruing the dividing Iredil1:n on : 88::18 ; Palomar Airpqrt R3ac, tt?? rranning Director stated I::#:: i thai rventually there dill be 6 moving lanes of I : tra-?fif, with a dividing medium. ';b\o:, '.\ '?$;,, i !:'8!1 $ :a#;:: 8" I ;::::' *: 8 I .I ;::::I I B 88 MR. ':EDDING stated he has a map showing 4 moving I i i :'; ; : lanes of traffic on Palomar Airport Road. The I 8 #::I:: '8 i bridges will be separated. There would be no prol$ems ::;::: : on this road now with the present traffic volume : i of approximately 2500 and he did not recommend a i ::I:#* :'8* : barrier until after the 7 or 8000 volume. He st-ated he did not recommend a signal light until f *, :88:88 :there was a volume of 6000 on the main street and; i 20% of that on the side street. !ATTORNEY GROSSE questioned Mr. Redding if he I ;: 88 ;thought there would be a serious traffic problem ; i in the future when'the traffic volume reaches 7 06 18000, and Mr. Redding stated they would be reach- i' 1::::: : ing a saturation point area where 2 additional I I !lanes will be needed. If two additional lanes ar+ : provided it would alleviate any problems and he ; :i;;;; 1: I hoped when they have 4 moving lanes they will I I :::;;; :provide for a left turning lane into Avenida :When questioned regarding the danger of stopping ! ::!:I: ::l:o@ i to enter into the service station, Mr. Redding' i stated they have experienced no problems, except : :::I;; ;when driveways are too small, and that the problefls ' ;I!;;; i of cars entering or leaving service stations in. ; : San Diego are nearly nil. He did not recommend a i ;::#:I : raised divider at this time, however, in the B 4;:;: : have a raised divider when there is a need for it.! ::8::: j 8 I I i:::;: ATTORNEY GROSSE stated he felt thGre is a definit4 ;;:::: I need and the location was ideally suited for a : :service station at this site. He questioned the I :iii :Commission if this was denied, what they felt the ; :I81 : : :,; i ; # F best land use for this property would be. He I I ::::;, : stated they would be willing to listen to the I '::;;;; :- :::I :Commission in respect to the sign. They are I I la;:^ : planning to landscape the property and would be ::;::-I i willing to raise the pad a few feet as requested i ::a:;: : by Commissioner Jose. I B 411 :io#:: :;;: I -;I:*#; ! No others present spoke in favor, of this applica- i ;::I;; i tion. I :: ' :The Chairman announced the Commission would now I :::;:: :hear from those wishing to speak in opposition. i ; I i i :'I No one spoke in opposition. I B ::I;:: ;**: :*8:8: ;:*';I 88 80 8 :;;::: #::8:: 81 I I ii:;:; 1 I :;:;;; i :-I i ; ; 1::::: -::4:;: I::::: ii:::: I :i:::; I 8 I I I 8888 I ;I b 8 8#8881 8 8 8' I 8 I :;:i:i r i Encinas. 8' : 8 ; :.I : !:::,; I(- future it will be necessary to either paint or : 8. ii::;; '8;'01 .#;I i! :::I ;a* I* I I I 0 ;: ii:: I 8 I 11 1 .I -. :I8 ;! B 1;s: I t I : I ::;;:; a ;:*:;: !The public hearing was closed at 8:38 P. M. ,!When questioned Mr. Thornton stated the grading 1:;;;; :plans have been approved for this site and he. I .*::::; :::::I : referred to the City Engineer's recommendations i :::::; :dated June 23, 1967, and stated that it would'held :#I I:;::: ithe sight distance from the east and west if the : '18;:; :.site was raised 2 feet. I :; lo I 8 :a::#: 8 I I :::;:; B :::::I I I 8 i.: ; i ; a I I 8' '8 8 :::;;: -1 I I 1 I I : : ::;; I 8.B I B B I :;:::; I I 8 ;::I 8:: B 8 #!I::: I 4 * I I I I 8;81'l '8 I t 8 :8::8: I 8 181 8 8 ' " ~ ~~~ ~~~ #8,!I 'I I '., 8, -\, '8 'I -\ i I I 8 ', ', '\ '\,'8, I I I I I *' rc- -4- I '8 ", 8, '\,'\,'\, I I : 145 me 8. *,, +X, *, I 1 % dJ. : * ; of \$O$>, '\ +', , 1 ! blember ::Z6\'>'' , The Commission djrcussed the size of the sign and: ::it:: ! ;;le fact this ,vould be just for one site; that i ::;j, I* i the City has more than its share of service sta- ; @I# 1' : tions; that this location would be good for a well- ::':;: .5 i:::;; *',I i planned Industrial zone area. I 4 I 1 , I: ::I1 4 ;:I;:: : The following resolutions were presented: I 1::::; )*I 11 ! After due consideration a motion was made to adopf 1::::; :;*:;: Resolution No. 510 and Resolution No. 511 for the: i::;:; : fol 1 owing reasons : I 111 , 1 .. Rezoning the property to C-1 brings this :::;:; :' I' I::;:; ; property into conformance with the General Plan. ; I ;.; I ; 1 i 2. A C-1 use, such as the one proposed, would ; ;;;:': : be well located in this area since it is a free- i ::; *:I: i way oriented business. I I I ; ;-I : I ; I I , :;:::: i Planning Commission Resolution No. 510. A RESOLU-!Smith :I*:;; : !x); ; ; : TION RECOMMENDING TO COUNCIL CHANGE OF ZONE FROM :McCom'as :x: 8 i : : R-A-10,000 TO C-1 ON PROPERTY AT THE SOUTHERLY iPalmateer i i SIDE OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, BETWEEN AVENIDA i: i i :Sutherlandi i : :xi ; I I :x: : title only and further reading waived. :Jose : ; 1 :x: : I iVoorheis i : Planning Commission Resolution No. 511. A RESOLU-: i i ; : I 0') : TION RECOMMENDING ADOPTION OF PRECISE PLANS FOR : ::I;;: SERVICE STATION ON PROPERTY AT THE SOUTHERLY SIDE:S~~~~ I ;x:x: ; i : OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, BETWEEN AVENIDA ENCI.NAS iMcComas !xi z: I : I '\ '* .(;. C' /:& 1 "p , pp \',O', * 'I !<' (""-"""""""--.."c. """""""""~""""""""""""""_~"_"_____"""_~_~__.~... 'ti I' * I 0 I :I '* I It I i ENCINAS AND INTERSTATE 5 FREEWAY, was adopted by :Little I P I1 I@ i AND INTERSTATE 5 FREEWAY, subject to the City :Palmateer i I !xi ; I ; Engineer's recommendations dated June 23, 1967, :Sutherlandi : ; ;x! ; i and Item 4 (a) (b) (c) and (d) of the Planning :Little I ; i :x; : ; Director's Report dated June 20, 1967, with the iJose : : : :xi i I exception that (d) be changed to read as follows:~VOOrheis : !x; ; ; ; "Sign shall be as shown on the Precise Plan, :; I I ;*;: : Exhibit "B" except it shall not exceed eighty (801 square feet on each side and shall not be over ; @8I:I* : thirty-five (35) feet in ehight. ' No additional : ;!:I:: 1,;:;: i pole signs shall be allowed", was adopted by tit14 ::;::: : oily and further reading waived. I I ::;::: I ..; 8 I ; * ' : OLD BUSINESS: I- ; ; ;.I ' : r I I /I;:; I I '::;:; I i :.; : ; i (a) General Plan Review. The Planning Director ! i explained th,is review was requested by the Council, :a:::.: .. 1:' : and the major review would ocurr every 4 or 5 1:;: I i::;;, I- -: 4" years. ::::I; i The Commission discussed 'having a study session i ;i:;;; ; and that they should establish a priority of I I I#'* : what matters to consider first. The Commission :;;:;: i agreed to have a study session on Friday, July 213 ::;::: ; 1967, at 2:30 P. M. I ::::;, 1. ; ! The Planning Director reported working on the i :i:::; : zoning ordinance and stated he had talked to Mr. ; Reese of the Irvine Development and he is trying : : to arrange a trip in order for.the Commission to i i study this development on July 28, 1967. The. I * 1: ; Commission agreed this would be a suitable date. : . I:;:;: I ::I;;: ;:::;; t.1 * I I I 8 I :::;:I 4:;:; *. I I I :@;I ;:I;:! .. ._ i;;::: 4:;; :::;:; ;:+: ; : : :. ' I .; : ; ; I :.. I l a:*;:; I -. * 1 I I I I I I i I I I I I I I I I I # I I I I I I I I 4 I I I I * I I I * I 1. I B I I I I ii::;: I ;I -: -. - ! ~~~ ~~ rl I I -., ', \\ *, -. I 8 , . ', '\ '. 8 8, '\ ', \ 8 ' I I- I \ ', 8, ',, '\,'\, I i 14s '*, '%:P.;, *,, 'Y<sk, i !""""""""""""".. """"""""""""""""""""""".l""""""""""-~-,"- { ; t4e m ber *,o ',o ;.pT *,e', I Freeway Landsc,jPirg. CJhen questioned regarding i ! the landscaping of the Freeway through the City ; i of Carlsbad, the Planning Director reported that : the State will landscape the Freeway on completio; ;::':I i of the widening w!icn monies are available. ' 11,111 i Mr. Thornton stated the Engineering Department ha: ;: It( : gards to Pi0 Pic0 Drive and the State has agreed : I$!; i to provide a 6 foot parkway adjacent to the Free-! :;;all : way side. This would provide for an adequate I :;::;: :;I:;: : 50 foot right of way between the Freeway and Pi0 ; ;.; ; I 1 :;I::: i Pjco would include the 6 foot strip. There would: ; be curb parking on the E-ast side of Pi0 Pic0 whicq ~1:;l; 11 l,;8;l I will have a 34 foot roadway. I : ;.' : ; ; I 1I:;l; I :::I;( i (b) Sign Study. The Planning Director presented ;Il;lt I;*+;: :;:Id I Planning Department for the Commission's consider: :::a': i ation. I 1 1:i::: lIt'l8 ;'*;I; : City and in shopping centers. The Planning I ;i;::; I 11,;:* i Director asked the Commission to study the signs : ::;;:: : in the Mayfair Shopping Center and Poinsettia I I !:I::: i Shopping Center. I I 11:11~ I I ,I;@:': I l,;*ll I The Commission agreed that the signs required I I ;;I::; : more study before taking any action on them. I I :';!;; ;: - ;: :;I' : ADJOURNMENT: I I :;ii I I l:;801 ::Ill& I i::::: I By proper motion the meeting was adjourned at :Smith ;XI ; x; : : : 9:56 P. M. to Friday, July 21, 1967, at 2:30 P.M. iMcComas : IIIXii i in the Council Chambers for the pyrpose of a stud9Palmateer I ;4 : i ; session to review the General Plan. iSutherland I i : X i ; I I I I I I I I i ,* I -5- 4 t I : of 'yg+;,, v&+.f&.;.:!& ', '<<,. 1 : I '$1 :;I;:* ;I:;!! ;;;01. ;::I:: I I 1::::: I :;t:8* 8 ; I-: : 1::;; - I1 I I worked hard with the Division of Highways in re- i I; '1 I pl.anting area for a type of screening tree. The i *, I ;:'I:: 11 I $1 I I I a chart regarding signs from a study made by the i D:l' I 8 11'1;:; i:1at4 I I .8 There was a general discussion on -signs in the i /- 11. IO I * I I I .I I1 I I I I I I :Little :;:4:: I I !Jose i :x:q i ; $ :Voorheis : : : A ; : I :;I::! I ::!;:: 4 ::::*; t :::::; I I ;;I:;: I 0 It:!;: 0- ;::;:i 4- 18 I ; : : :.i *#I :;: I I :&I I I l;;::l : I I ;I;:;: '1 *tl;l: I l:;l:l I * ::*:;: I I i::::: I I 1:;::: I a :;':;: :;::;; 1 # :;::;; I I ::::;: I 1 ;:!:;: I 481 8: I * I ;:::;; I I ; ; '. .' I :;,I:: 4 I#:::: I I ::::*: 0 I I I' :;I::: 41 I I I :ii;i: 1. ;;:!:@ 1 F I I;;* i Respectfully submitted, . I I ::::;; '1;l 1 I I I I I I I *,dA 0 ::;:;: -8 ,:;I:: (1' I 0 DOROTHY M. OSBURN : Recording Secretary I 1 I I I I I .I 1 I * * I I I b ::;I;: 8 0 II'O' 1 a I I I I 4 .. ::; (01 I .* .. I I a I I I I I I 'I I I I I I I' 4 I * a *. I b -1 I I I I I I I I 8 I I I I * '1';': c" 4 I I ll;';; ." __ . ~, . - . - . ~~ ..