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: Date of Meeting: December 12, 1967 x, *','\' ", % ' 'x4
! Place of Meeting: Council Chambers
I ; ROLL CALL was answered by Commissioners Smith, ; i McComas, Jose, Little, Pa'lmateer and Voorheis. a p:;: ; Commissioner Sutherland was absent. Also present! i were City Attorney Wilson, City Engineer Lill, ; Civil Engineering Assistant Sprehe, Planning : Director- Schoell, and Assistant Planning Director! I:':::
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Minutes of: PLANNING COMMISS .I
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! APPROVAL OF MINUTES: ' (a) Minutes of the regular meeting of November Smith 1 28, 1967, were approved as ..
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
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/ ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: I
There were no oral communications. I
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i, PUBL'IC HEARING: . .
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(a) CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - To allow the oper- f i ation of a Nursery and Cut Flower Sales on the I : West side of Interstate 5 and North of Palomar ; ; Airport Road, being a portion of Lot H, Rancho I : Agua Hedionda, Map 823, in the City of Carlsbad, ; I County of San Diego. I i Applicant: Paul and Magdalena Ecke. I l::;:I
i Notice of hearing was read. The Secretary certi-i :;;1:1 ; fied that notices were sent to property owners in: ;ll;l;
i the area and that publication was given and then i ii;::: : read the application, signed by the applicant. i
i Letter dated November 29,. 1967, from the Division! ;::::: : of Highways stated at the present time have no ; I studies which would affect this proper.ty. I';l;l
The Planning Director presented a map explaining i ;::::: : the lacatfaon of the property and zoning in the i area and the written report of the facts result- : :I: : ing from staff investigation of the property and i 1::;;: i the circulation of traffic quadrant. ,At the I i:::;; ': ! present time the property is in a R-A zone. He i ;::;I, i stated that the nursery is presently located in : ; Encinitas and wishes to move to this area. He i ;:;::: also pointed out that a time limitation may be : 1:;;:1 : considered. He indicated that a nursery could i { present a pleasing view from the freeway,would ; : be a good interim use, and that it would serve i I the City's needs. However, this area may be 1 ::;:;, ; developed into an Industrial Center in the future:; i the Commission should consider whether or not ; this use should be limited to a specific number ; i of years, so that at the time of industrial : development, this property could be improved in I i accordance with. the General Plan.
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' # * I I D ; Commissioner Jose s-ubmitted two photographs of ; I the nursery structure in .Encinitas, which would t ; be moved to the proposed nursery site. b a
I I i Commissioner Palmateer asked the City Attorney : how permanent the conditional use permit is and I i what wbakd happen if t.hey wanted a zone change. 8
I : I b The City Attorney indicated that the conditional i ; use permit could be made temporary for a 1 imited : period of time; but if a zone change were re- I i quested the permit would be void. f I Dick Sprehe of the Engineering Department review-/ ed the Engineer's Report: When questioned about ; : the sewer situation he stated the sewer is avaiLl-; able in the surrounding area. He also pointed i ; out .there is water facilities in the area. -8
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k '! I Chairman Little declared public bearing open and i announced the Planning Commission would hear 4 ! ! from the applicant or hi$ representative and any 1 others wishing to speak in favor of this applic- i ation. I
! I I There was no one present to represent the appli- !cant or anyone wishing to speak in favor, and 8 the Chairman announced the Planning Commission i !would hear from all persons desiring to speak in i : opposition to this application. I : !
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i As there were no persons present desiring to speak in opposition, the Chairman declared public hear-: : ing closed at 8:20 P.M. !
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Commissioner Palmateer asked the Planning Direc- i tor if there were any plans as to how long the : : use would be .
The Planning Director indicated that there were f i no plans as to how permanent the use will be; I ; b.ut that the applicant has indicated:at the pre- i : sent time, it is an interim use of the property ; until it is ready for industrial development. I
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Commissioner Palmateer asked the Planning Direc- i tor what he suggested for a time limit. 8
: The Planning Director stated that the property I is extpemely valuable as it is in a proposed I ! industrial zone, therefore, if a time limit were i set he suggested a limit not less than five years: : for this conditional use permit. b
: Commissioner McComas suggested a .five year limit i i and then if they wanted to-renew the use permit : : in five years thhy could do so. I
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' I i Chafrman Little inquired of the.zGity Attorney if I i it would be legal if the conditional use permit I ; were to be brought up again as a lot split. :
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: use permit. He stated that they should be given ; sufficient time to make a good establishment and 1 to get some return of their investment. t
I After further consideration, a motion was made i i to adopt Resolution No. 5.39, granting a Condi- # I ; tional Use Permit on property at Interstate 5 . i I and,North of Palomar Airport Road, for the followf
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i Smith suggested a ten year limit for a
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r 1. That the Conditional Use Permit is not in 4 f cbnflict with the uses of the surrounding properti
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i 2. That this would be a good interim use as spec: i ified in the General Plan. I
f Planning' Commission Resolution No. 539. A RES
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I I i TENTATIVE MAP - SHELDON LOT SPLIT - 2 PARCELS
! Location: East of Interstate 5 and at the South i ; end of Lowder Lane, on a portion of Lot H, Rancho: ;I::I; : Agua Hedionda, Map 823, in the City of Carlsbad. I ;:;;:;
; Applicant: Roy H. Sheldon
I The Secretary read the applicatdon and certified : i that owners of the adjacent property were noti- i : fied of thSs subdivision.
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There were nocother written communications excepy from the various departments and agencies. I #:,I;:
: The Planning Director explained the location of I the property and stated at the present time the I
property is zoned for industrial use. He also ; indicated that a zone change was not requested, : i but a lot split of two parcels. I '#I
; The City Engineer indicated that the tentative I map shows a division into two parcels. 1 ' :;;;
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I ! He also pointed out. that before the interstate i freeway was developed it was one parcel, however, : : development of Interstate 5 divided this property: into separate parcels. He stated that Lowder Land i classified in the General Plan is now eight four i ; feet (84') right of way in width and sixty eight :
:.feet (68') roadway in width. He also stated that! i Eckes interest have widened Lowder Lane on the : : West side to conform to the General Street Plan; : I and the East half side is only the forty foot (40!) i pavement. He pointed out that the lot split re- quirements of Lowder Lane have an extension of the
whole width of Parcel B of 260 feet. Mr. Lill I read the Engineer's Report.
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I I i JOE PARISI, r.epresenting Roy Sheldon, 305 Elm : Avenue, stated that Roy Sheldon requested side-' i ,.I walk improvements be waived. 1 ':
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I f Commissioner Palmateer'asked Mr. Parisi why he i : thought the sidewalks sho.uld be waived require- I ments. I I ! .
~ Parisi stated in his opinion there is little or no use in the i-ndustrial and subdivision zones : with-out parking lots. I I
, Chairman Li,ttle indicated that people should not i walk on the roadways in an industrial area and :
that he was in favor of sidewalks, I :
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I, I I JOHN CALLAHAN, President of Cal-Mill Plastics I ; Products, 324 South Cedros, Solana Beach, indic- ! I ated that his basic products are helmets, plastic&, ; flight suits, etc. He also pointed out at the
! present time have thirty (30) employees. He i stated that he proposed to build a 17,500 sq. ft.! I building on three acres. I
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all the way to Palomar Airport Road in the future;. : Since Lowder Lane is desi-gnated as a major col- I lector, sidewalks will be necessary along the : Easterly Side. !
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t I ! Chairman Little announced the Commission would : i now hear from any others desiring to speak in I : favor.
; There was no one present to speak in favor, and :
the Chairman announced the Commission would hear I : from all persons desiring to speak in opposition.: : ; There was no one who wished to speak in opposi- ! i tion. I
i Commissioner McComas asked Mr. Callahan if he : was just requesting sidewalks on the Easterly I
side of Lowder Lane or on both sides. t
i Mr. Callahan stated that it is just on tBe East- ; : erly side of Lowder Lane.
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The City Engineer recommended that sidewalks be i constructed on both sides' of Lowder Lane.
:Chairman Little i-nquired of the Planning Director!
:what the requirements in the ordinance are pre- :
itaining to the West side of Lowder Lane.
i The Planning Director pointed out to the Commis- : sion the property is zoned for industrial use. If: : they decided to divided this land further there i i will be requirements in the future.
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0 I i Mr. Parisi presented two questions,; the definitiotl of a street opening and if a safety barricade a ! would stop traffic from entering the Sheldon
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: The .City Engineer stated that only a saftey barr-i ; icade would be installed. There should be a CUI-; : de-sac so that traffic'will be able to turn I around. He also stated that a street opening i means a new street is to be dedicated to the City!
: Commissioner Palmateer pointed out that the app- I licant owned 18 acpes bf land and by splitting ; : the .lot, developing and putting in improvements, i he is benefiting the rest of his. propetty as : well. He pointed out it would be logical that he! [ make a s-treet development on both sides.
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0 i The City Engineer stated there i in the General Plan.
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!The Planning Commission requested further inves- ; tigations with the San Diego Gas & Electric Com- i pany and the Parks & Recreations Committee. I
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Chairman Little stated that there may be other I. facts that should be brought up and they should ; !not take any action right now. He also pointed I ; out other cities should be contacted and requested : that a representative from the San Diego Gas & : Electric Company and Parks Commission be present i on January 23, 1968.
Commissioner McComas stated that a, hearing 'for !
the J. Hoffman Precise Plan be adopted on January! I f 23, 1968. I
i Tbe Planning Department will contact Mr. Hoffman ! ,.i rega-rding a letter from him requesting Precise I ': P1 an Proceedings.
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NEW BUSINESS:
t I i (a) Bristol Cove (Sheltor Cove) Subdivision.
i Many. inquires have been received by the Planning i : Department in regards to development 6f property ; located in Bristol Cove. The Planning Director i : explained that the.subdivision is predominately : i forty feet (40') wide lots.
: It was also explained by the Planning Director i that though there is sufficient area for : (4) units, there is not adequate lot width for i four (4) parking spaces. He explained that the ; : side yard requirements are four feet (4') add
garage wal Is, there would only be thirty one (31 )i : feet left for a garage. The minimum requirment i ; per city ordinance is eight and one half feet : i (81/2') per parking space width or a requirement i : of thirty four feet (34'). for four parking spaces:
I The Planning Director pointed out that people I i wi 11 be applying for variances. He felt that I I : if variances were to be considered that there could be a requirement to change the front yard ; setback from ten feet {.lo') to tw-enty feet (20') : i so there will be additional room for off street . : parking. Due to the nature of the area and the ; i fact that there are rolled curbs, someday when i ; the area is fully developed there will not be ; i room for street parking.
i Chairman Little stated that the front yard set- ! : back was studied at the time the ordinance was i set up. He also stated that it would only be i ; compounding a problem by changing the require- ; : ments, and that he would not be in favor of i giving them additional variances.
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ADJOURNMENT: . i : By proper motion, the meeti 1 at 9:24 P.M.
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TONI DERRIGO Recording Secretary I
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ng was adjourned