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Home My WebLink About1968-04-23; Planning Commission; MinutesI : CITY OF CARLSBAJ- I Minutes of: : Date of Meeting. ; Time of Meeting: I Place of Meeting: I"""""""""" PLANNING COMMISS-Y April 23, 1968 7:30 P. M. Council Chambers -""""""""""""- I "- I : ROLL CALL was answered by Commissioners Smith, I Jose, Palmateer, Voorheis and Little. Commissioner! ; Smtherland was absent. Also present were City : : Attorney Wilson, City Engineer Lill, Assistant I ; City Engineer Spano, Planning Director Schoell, I and Assistant City Planner Johnston. I I I I I I I I I 1. I I : APPROVAL OF MINUTES: I I. c I. I. I. I* 111111 11111l I11111 I11111 11l111 111111 llllll I11111 I11111 111111 111111 I,IIIII II'IIII llllll 1.1 I I I I tlllll 111111 111111 .: (a) Minutes of the regu1a.r meeting of April 9, :Smith 1 I x: :x, I I I lVoorheis :. :x, I I Ill I I I 1968, were approved as submitted. :Jose I :x:x; ; ; I ;Palrnateer : I I I 1x1 Ill I I I I 111111 :, WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: I I 1 (a) Letter dated April 15, 1968, from Glenn E. I : McComas, submitting ,his resignation as a member : of the Planning Commission, since he has been t ; elected to serve as a member of the City Council.1 I He also expressed his appreciation for having I the opportunity .to serve as a Commissioner. I : Chairman Little requested that a Resolution of I : Commendations be made for Glenn McComas. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I t I I I : ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: ; (a) ThereblerJe no oral communications. I I I I : PUBLIC HEARING: I I I I (a) CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, continued- To con- I I sider an application for an amendment to the existing conditional use permit to allow the I expansion and use of the existing facilities of I I St. Michael's Episcopal Chutxh and Sunday school I I I building, a reduction in the required parking I I spaces from 78 to 54 parking spaces, and to I allow construction of a Parish Hall and Adminis- I I a reduction in 'the required sidewalk width from I I 1.0' to 5' on Carlsbad Boulevard and a portion I of Cedar Avenue, between' Carlsbad Boulevard and I I Garfield Street. Applicant: The Bishop of the I I I Protestant Episcopal Church in Los Angeles (A I I 1 Co-rporation Sole). I Notfce of hearing was read. The.Secretary certi-: I fied that property owners in the area were noti- I I fied and then read the application. I I I I I I I I I I I I I tration Bdilding. Also to consider recommending ; I I of Cedar Avenue. Located on the Northerly side ; I I I I l I I I -1 'I I I I I I I 111111 I 111111 I I11111 I Letter dated March 21, 1968, from The Bishop : of the Protestant Episcopal.Church in Los Angeles; llllll llllll I their application for the functional requirements: I for parking. I I llllll I I A Corporation Sole, Legal Owner, in regards to I 111111 111111 11l111 I ltl111 I I I I 111111 111111 I I I 111111 I I 11l1l1 I I llllll 1: I 111111 I I l11t11 I I I11111 I I 111111 I I I11111 I I I 1111l1 111111 I I I I ,"""""""""""""""""""-""""""~~- I I' "I I 8 I : The Planning Director presented a map showing the; I location of the existing church and the property I : o'wners in the area that were contacted. He also : presented a map, .referred to as Exhibit IIB"; I ; showing the proposed additions to the existing I I facilities. He stated that the applicant requested amendment to conditional use permit adopted i :'October 9, 1956, to allow .reduction in parking I I spaces to construct a Parish Hall and Adminis- I tration Building. He pointed out on the map the ; ,: parking spaces that would be provided. He stated1 I that in 1958, the Planning Commission adopted a I site plan which showed 10' sidewalks on Carlsbad ; Boulevard and 150' Westerly along Cedar Avenue. I I The installation of the sidewalks were deferred : I for a period of 36 months but th%y have not been I : installed at this time. The church when completed :-will be able to contain 307 seats and the public I meeting room will contain 2700 sq. ft. The I : Zoning Ordinance requires that each use on a' I : given site must provide off-street parking.. The : : applicant proposes to provide 54 parking spaces ; I which is the requirement for a single use but I I not for a joint use. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I r The Chairman asked the Engfneering Department . : if they had any recommendations. I : Mr. Lill, stated that the only recommendations I would be that the sidewal ks along Carlsbad I ; Boulevard be 10' in width and five (5') feet I I on Cedar Avenue. Also that the east half of Garfield Street is used for driveway access. I : Chairman Little stated that the 10' sidewalks on I : Carlsbad Boulevard and the 5' sidewalks on Cedar : 1 Avenue were the original requirements. He asked ; I the City Attorney what the procedure would be I : in this case. I I The' City Attorney stated that these requirements I I had no w.ay of knowing why the improvements were I I not put in on Carlsbad Boulevard. ; Whsen questioned if the curbs'and other improve- I I ments were installed, the Planning Director : slated that the curbs and improvements were I I installed but not the sidewalks. : The Chairman announced the Commission would now ; ; hear from the applicant or his representative. I I MR. ALLARD, Architect representing Saint Micha'el'l I Church, stated that the reasons for the request I I for an amendment to the conditional use permit is: I present site is adequate for the orderly,growth I : future needs of the church and find that it 1 provides adequate space for the development for I I a church complex. He indicated on the map what I I they have provided for the church facilities. I I I Building ''A" is the existing church which con- I I tains 153 seats. They are proposing to add an I additional. 154 seats making a total of 370 seats. I I: I I I I I I I I I I I I I I - : shou1.d have been met. He also stated that he I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that the church wants to be assured that the . I I I I I I I of the church. They have made studies of the I I I I I I I I I I I I I' I I ~~~ ~ I. I L I. 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Expansion for the larger class room I I I will be provided for the library and in the I ,I ,I I I I I :-meeting hall, which will be the lower floor of I ; Building 'I&". He pointed out where the proposed I I I Parish Hall will be located. The Parish Hall I : will be for ;church suppers, social gatherings, I and special meetings. They will also provide, I I in the lower floor, a kitchen, business office I I 1111l1 : and a library. He indicated'on the map where I ; the court.:yards were located. The parking lot I has access off Garfield Street and Carlsbad I 111111 : Boulevard. It provides for 54 parking spaces :.which is 3 more parking spaces than required I I 111111 I by ordinance for the' church itself. In addition ; : to the 54 parking spaces an ., additional 26 I ; spaces will be available on the perimeter of the : I property, because of the fact that the property ; 111111 : does face three (3) streets. The planted areas I ;will provided 5.2% of the parking area in order ; I to maintain shade. He felt that the application ; : for the amendment to the conditional use permit I I should be granted. They are not providing any Ifacilities that would differ in use then those I : provided for in the conditi-onal use permit. I Carlsbad is the only City in the County of San : lDiego that requires parking for more than one ; of the assembly areas in the church- complex. In I I reference to the sidew,alk situation, he pointed : .:out that they have no objection to -this. He :also pointed out that there are no plans to 8 build at the present time. I ;The Chairman announced the Commission would now I I hear from any others wishing to speak in favor :of this application. BAS there were no others wishing to speak in I ,favor of the application,- the Ch'airman announced I :the Commission would now hear from any one wishing: :No one present wished to speak in opposition of I I I the appl i cati on. I ;The Chairma.n declared the) public hearing closed I I at 8:Ol P. M. I :Commissioner Palmateer p6inted out that the ,. I 1 111111 property on Ocean Street 1s a highly.valuable I :property and that it should be given consideration: :before a decision is made on the parking. I :Commissioner Voorheis stated he agreed with ;Commissioner Palmateer in that parking faciliti'es I I #will be necessary for future 'development and I :disposi.ng of this property future parking might I Ibe difficult to obtain in the adjacent area in I I I Ithe future. I I I I I Chairman Little stated that the church should not I I :be penalized because of the beach. He did state ;: I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I to speak in opposition. I I11111 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I .I I 111111 1, I I I I I I I I I I I ~~~~ ". I I I I I I I' t I I I I I I I I I I I 1. I I I I I I I I I I t t I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I .I I I I I I I I I I I I t I I I I I I I I I I' P I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that the original sidewalk requirements should ; be constructed immediately. He felt that the I street improvements and sidewalk requirements along the balance of Cedar Avenue and Garfield ; Street could be waived and be constructed at the I time they start making improvements. He pointed i out that in five'or ten years from now 350 seats ; will probably be too small'. I Mr. Allard stated that it has been a church . I policy to build a certain size church. They would prefer to build in a different location rather than over build a church. In regards to ; the amount of parking spaces on the existing I site, he stated there are 26 parking spaces. It is approximately the same ratioCthat they are I I requiring for the church. I Commissioner Palmateer stated another consider- I ation would be that it fronts on the main boule- I vard and that the church is approximately one I block from the beach. There is vacant land in I this apea, and will eventually be a high density I residential area as the town develops. I I Mr. Allard pointed out in a high density area many people will walk to the church rather than ; drive to it. I Commissioner Smith asked Mr. Allard if he had the authority to say if the lot on Ocean Avenue I could be used for parking for the church. Mr. Allard stated he bid not have the power to I say. He did not know exactly what their thoughts: were but he was sure that the property was far ; too expensive to use for a parking lot. In I r-egards to the sidewalks on Garfield Street, he I stated that it was not their intention to pro- , I ceed without installing the improvements. They I would certainly want to put the street improve- : ments in at the time the parking lot is constucte?, so that,there is no objection on the part of the I applicant on the total future plan. He felt from the ratio: they have now, the parking for ; the church site will be adequate. I MR. HARRY PRICE, 405 Tierra Del Road, Catlsbad, I member of the Bishop's Committee of Sa5nt Michael's 'Church, which is the governing body for: the Mission Church, stated that the property on 1 Ocean Street is owned by the church and is tax- I able property. The taxes on this property are : so high that .it is no longer feasible for the' ; church to keep it. They cannot pay the taxes I on this property. I When questioned if there were any plans for the use of this property, Mr. Price stgted that they: have no definite plans. It'will probably be on I some form of long lease. On the question of the I beach location, he stated he would like to call I to the Planning Commission's attention that there: is no public beach in that location. All the I beaches on that portion of Ocean Street are all I privately-owned. There is no public access to id. I I I I I I I I I I f I I .. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I' I * I. 1. I- I, I, 111111 111111 11111l 111111 111111 1l1111 llllll .llllll 111111 111111 I,IIIII 111111 1.1 I I I I IIIIII 111111 111111 111111 I11111 IIIIII llllll 111111 llllll I11111 I11111 111111 111111 1I1111 I11111 111111 1 I .I I I I t I I I I- I t I I t I I I I I I I I I. I I I I I .I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I' - -5- """""""""""""""""""""""" I I. I. I. I. I. I. 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In five ; years time the Commission .may find,that b# I granting this conditional use permit with these I specifications,that they wished they did not grant; it, due to the problem of the parking. He felt I that if this was granted that a time limit of approximately 5 years be put on the conditiona! use permit. Mr. Allard stated that this wou1,d cause a hard- I shi.p because this is exactly why t.hey have presented this application. They feel that the parking is adequate- Commissioner Smith stated that this does not seem to unreasonable. The only time that the parking would be the heaviest would be on a Sunday niorning. I I I11111 Chairman Little 'stated that sidewalks should be I required along Carlsbad Boulevard and Garfield : Street. A poution of Cedar Avenue, which was I originally requested,for improvements,shouldbbe I mandatory. I I After further discussion, a motion was made to I adopt Resolution No. 551, granting the adeadment : to existing conditional use permit. on property I )t the Northerly side of Cedar Avenue, between I Carlsbad Boulevard and Garfib'Pd Street, for the ; following reasons: I 1. That it would not be detrimental to the surrounding properties. 2. The parking requirements will not be materially affected due to the fact that separalbe: uses will be made of the buildings. Resolution No. 551. A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLS- : Smith IX I 1x1 I I BAD CITY PbANNING COMMISSION GRANTING AN AMEND- :Jose MENT TO EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, ON ; Palmateer ; ; ;x: ; ; PROPERTY AT THE NORTHERLY SIDE OF CEDAR AVENUE, I Voorheis I lxlxl I I BETWEEN CA.RLSBAD BOULEVARD AND GARFIELD STREET, Little : :':x: ; was adopted by title only and further reading I 11t111 waived, subject to the following condi.tions: I I :x: : : I I 111111 I 111111 11l111 I I11111 111111 llllll I11111 I 111111 I I 111111 111111 I 111111 111111 I 111111 I I 111111 111111 I I 1111l1 111111 I 111111 I l111l1 111111 I 111111 l1l111 I11111 I11111 I 1l1111 I: 1l1111 111111 I I lll#Il 111111 I 1111l1 1- 1111l1 I 11111I I 111111 1. The sidewalk of 10 feet in width shall ; be constructed immediately on Carlsbad Boulevard.l 2. Sidewalk of 5 feet in width shall be constructed immediately along this property on' I Cedar Avenue for a distance of 150 feet from Carl sbad Boul evard. 3. At the time of construction of any future building on this pDoperty full improve.: I ments shall be constructed on the East half of Garfield Street and Northerly half of Cedar Ave- ; nue in compliance with the City Standards. I ~ ~~ ~. . ~ c- I I - : . . .' ', q'. i " ',s/"',, I ; ..".\ 3 i I ' '+, ; I -6- I .. '?I? '- &(I.+, I :Name '~y 4' q'\ 0 \,d ; I I. I of Qk '> <P'-,..- ' I e' 4)' < I .; I .I 1. '. '. " . 8 ' i I -. I ........................ Memher,,-~'~~,~-~-~,~ I I I I. C h I. 1. 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Owners and Subdividers: Remlap, Ltd.' : Notice of hearing was read. The Secretary certi-; :-fied that property owners .in the area were noti- I I fied and then read the application. He also I indicated the various City agencies and utility i 111111 : companies.were so notified and that recommenda4 I I tions were submitted. ; The Planning Director stated-that this tentative I I map was before the Planning Commrission and the I ; limit for the filing of the.fina1 map has I. expired, therefore, it is being resubmitted. ; Mr. Lill ,presented the tentative map and the . I report and stated that the recommendations are : : generally as previsously recommended in there I ; report of June 24, 1966. He then read and I briefly reviewed the recommendations and the ; improvementsrequirements. He pointed out that I ; there were no c-hanges in the tentative map. He I I recommended that the rights-of-way be reserved : : to the Easterly boundary of the subdivision for I I Enterprise Boulevard and for "A" Street. He stated that Item 4, of the improvement require- ; i ments, 'st:ate's that sidewalks be 5' in width I I and locaked contiguous to the curb throughout the: I subdivision, was waived the last time the map I was submitted. But the ordinance dpes require '1 sidewalks. He pointed out Macario Road.west of I El Camino Real, will intersect El Camino Real. : This will provide T-intersections on El Camino I I Real. I Chairman Little stated that if these s-treets I are. to join, as shown en the map, there should i : be different names for identification. I BOB JOWNSTON,stated that the names will be ; different to clarify identification. I When questioned, Mr. Palmer stated that the : average lot'size is over one acre. I The Chairman announced @he Commission would now : : hear from the applicant or hts representative. I MR. RALPH PALMER, 3955 Skyline Road, stated that : this map was submitted to the Commission two .. I I years ago and' was approved by the Commission and I the City Council. There are no changes in the I tentative map but there where some small changes i I in the resolution. He requested that these I changes in the resolution be deleted: 'that the ; rights-of-way be reserved to the Easterly I I I Boundary of the subdivision and that the side- I walks be located throughout the subdivision. He stated that sidewalks are not a park of the I I industrial park. They are not creating a walk- I ing traffic between one industry to another. He : : pointed out that by constructing sidewalks would I I take all the parking off the street into-land- I: I scaped areas. I 1.1 I I I I I I I I I I I City Council on June, 1966, h.oweger, the time I I P I I I I I. I I I- I I I I I I I I I I I I ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~ "" -4 -7- 1 : ' , '' ' -' s," I I I""""""""""""- I I I I I Mr. Palmer also pointed'out an item on the Eng- : : ineer's Report stahrjng that an offsite sewer I ; system will 'have .to be constructed in El Cayi'no I I I Real by the Developer of this subdivision. In I I :the'event that the property owners on the west I ;side of El Camino Real develop there property I I l-before he does they will be putting in the sewer ; lalso. He stated that he will not put in the I isewer for that other side of the road. I :adopt . Resolution No. 552, approving the I I tentative map of Carlsbad Industr.ia1 Park, subject: :to the recommendations of the various City hgen- I :ties and utility companies, withcathe modification ; of Item 7 which shall read, !Rights of way shall ; :be as shown on tentative map with street namas I ;'approved before filing of the final map," that I 16 read ''A sidewalk no less than five (5') ; :feet in width shall be located contiguous to the I lcurb along El Camino Real only. No sidewalk I :shall be required within the subdivision," and :with the modification of Item 20 which shall read I I II'An off-site sewer system will have to be constructkd :in El Camino Real';.and that Items 1 thru 23 I I I I I I I I -,:After further discussion, a motion was made to I I I Iinclusive be followed as prescribed in Resolution I INO. 552. I .. .~ ~- I I I I I ;The following resolution was presented: ,Resolution No. 552. A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLSBAD :CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL #OF THE TENTATIVE MAP OF CARLSBAD INDUSTRIAL PARK, {was adopted by title only, and further reading :wafved. I I I I I :The Chairman called a recess at 9:20 P. M. Re- lconvened at 9:28 P. M. I I I :OLD BUSINESS: I ;Smith I Jose :Palmateer 1 Voorhei s : Li ttl e I I I I I I I I I I I I 111111 111111 llllll llllll 111111 1l1111 111111 111111 ~~IIIII 111111 111111 llllll 111l11 111111 llltll llllll llllll 111l11 llllll 1l1111 llllll 111111 llllll 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 1l1111 111111 111111 llllll 111111 llllll llllll 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 111111 I~IIII I I :(a) New S.ign Ordinance. Chairman Little pointed : lout that i Commissioner would-have to be appointed; ;to replace former Commissioner McComas to contact I :the Chamber of Commerce and the Downtewn Business : lMen . I I I 1 I :Commissioner. Jose was appointed to contact two I :members of the Chamber of Commerce and two members: 'of the Downtown Merchants. I I I I I ahe Planning Director dtstributed the booklets '"Signs Out of Control" to the Commissioners and I :stated that he has reoeived copies of the booklet : :"Gu.laeline Standards for on Premise Signs" from I I Fhe California Electric Sign Association. I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1: I I I I I I I I' I I I I .. . " i (i) Planned Indu.stria1 Ordinance. It was agreed i :that a copy of the Planned 5ndustrial Ordinance ; *~IIIII I be mailed to the Commissioners for their review a I I and -b e . continued to the next Planning Commissio) i'Meeti ng. 111111 llllll 111111 111111 I.IIIII 111111 I llllll I 111111 I I 111111 - " -8- - (b) Planned Unit Development Ordinance. The I I .; Planning Director stated that the Planning Depart-; ~ment is working on this ordinance and will be I :ready to presentitbthe Commission at the next I ; meeting. I I I I I : (c) Memorandum re: SCHOOL SITE'SOUTHERLY OF #CLEARVIEW DRIVE, from the City Manager, stating I :.that the Carlsbad Union School District is I I I I : requesting approval irom the City of this site I I #located Southerly of Clearview Drive for a I : combined school development and city park. The I :Council has requested that this matter be referred: I to the Planning Commission for their comments I :and report prior to any action being taking by : the Council. ;The Secretary read the letter dated April 9, 1968,: :from Fred H. Lance, Business Manager, requesting ; I approval of the combined sc'hool development and I : city park. I I :The Planning Director presented a map and explaineh :the location of the proposed combined school and !park site. He stated that some time ago Dr. I : Harmon and Mr. Fred Lance indicated to the City I ithat in reviewing the future expansion in the larea, they would have to have another school site.: they have selected 2 or 3 locatiors that might be I :possible for a school site. The Planning Depart- : iment has also sleuaied these various school sites ; land -other adjoining street patterns and found I :that this was a good location for a school site. : :This site was not located- in the General Plan. I they have reviewed the recommendations of the :General Plan but found that i.t did not allocate : I enough land for.the school site. There is a need ; Ifor a reservoir, He stated that the main I :consideration for the Commissioners is if they I I lapprove or disapprove of ,this school .and park I : combinationsin this location. :When questioned if the reservoir would be used :for water or for fire protection, Mr. Lill stated :that it will p.rovide zone-one pressure. It wili ; be used for both water and fire protection. The I :reservoir will contain a million and a half lgallons of water and will be about 135 feet across; land 20 feet deep. I :Mr. Lill also stated that there has been no study ; of the.schoo1 site made by the Engineering Depart-t :merit, the only recommendation would be that they : :require full subdivision improvements. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1: I I I I 1 I I I I I I ~~ " I I I I I I The Chairman announced the Commissi0.n would now I I I hear from the representative. I I I DR. HARMON, Superintendent of the Carlsbad Union I I I Schools, stated that they have studied the I master plan and 'know the recummendations containeh I therein. There was not a recommendation for a I I I school site in this particular area; but they I : find themselves in a position where they will be I 1 faced with additional population within the I I I presently populated areas'in the City. At Buena : Vista School and Magnolia School there is an over1 I population of 150 students at the present time. I I I He also pointed out that the six,th graders that : : attended Magnolia School ar? all a.t Valley Junior1 I High School. Sixty of the sixth graders at Buena: I' Vista School are-also at Valley Junior High. He : ; will build approximately 220 homes. Theyhave I I I estimated approximately an average of 1.2 elemen-: : tary students per home. In addition they have I I projected somewhat into the future and have I : anticipated a total population ifi the area. They: : find that approx-imately 50% of the usable acreage1 ; id developed in the general area now. They also : . I find that the present schools will only handle : I I about 50% of the pupils. They have estimated I 1 that there will be a need for five elementary I I schools in the future. : When questioned how far the proposed site would : : be from Magnolia School, Dr. Harmon stated it is I 1 approximately 3/4 of a mile from Magnolia School.I I : After further discussion, the Planning Commission I I park site. I ; Chairman Little requested that a letter be sent I I to the City Council statimg that they have re- I : viewed the combined city park and school develop- I ; ment map prepared by the City of Carlsbad Planning: I Depart.ment and the Commission unanimously approved: : the subject plan as presented. I : ADJOURNMENT: I I I I I I I 'I I I I I stated that very shortly the Briggs Developement I I I I I I I I I I I I I I unanimously approved of the combined sbbool and I I I I I I I I' I I I I I I I I I I BY proper motion, the meeting was adjourned at 10:21 P. M. I I I I I I Respectfully submitted, TONI J. 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