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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1968-11-26; Planning Commission; MinutesI <" " .- CITY CARLSBAD MINUTES OF: DATE OF MEETING: TIME OF MEETING: PLACE OF .MEETING: PLANNING COMMISSION November 26, 1968 7:30 'P.M. Council Chambers Also present were City Attarney Wilson, City Engineer Lill, Assistant City Engineer Spano and Planning Director Olinghouse. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: .- " (a) Minutes of the regular meeting of November 12, 1968, were approved as submitted. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: (a) Letter to the Planning Commission from the Engi- neering Department regarding Laguna Riviera No. 3 Subdivision, stating the-Engineering Department has received a copy of the final map for. checking as required. - ORAL COMMUNICATIONS : c (a) Commissioner Jose stated he received a document from the League of California Cities which he had requested on variances for future planning purposes and will have copies made to distribute to the Plan- ning Commission for their information. '(b) Commissioner Jose stated that he felt it would be wise for the Commission to give some thought about the meeting of December 24, 1968 between now and the meeting of Decetnber 10, 1968 and make a decision of whether the December 24, 1968 meeting: will be held, since it falls on Christmas Eve, or if it will be curtailed until after the Holiday Season. Chairman Little requested the City Planner to pre- sent an adjenda of- the December 24th meeting at the meeting of December. loth, and stated that at that time, the Commission can.better decide if the meeting should be held anotlier night during.the. Holidays or curtailed until after the Holiday Season. PUBLIC HEARINGS: (a) SPECIFIC PLAN AND ZONE CHANGE - To consider to City Council a specific plan and change in'zone from R-1 or R-2 to R-3; located on property lying between Acacia Avenue, Olive Avenue, Carlsbad Boulevard and the A.T. & S.F. Railroad rights-of-way. hpplicant: Resolution of Intention No. 64. ~- gotice of hearing was read. The Secretary certified that property owners in the -area were notifi-ed and then read the application, and read the following Zorrespondence. 1. Letter dated November 18, 1968 from the City of Carlsbad Planning Department to Mr. and Mrs. Harold Hansen in reply to their letter . of November 15, 1968 stating that an error had been made on the Notice of PubliczHearing which deleted their property from the zone change and that to readvertise, me City . ' _. . Present Motion Ayes Abstain L. _I C17y OF CARLSBAD -. -2- Planner would request the Planning Commissic to continue the hqaring to the December 10, 1968 meeting. 2. Letter of November 15, 1968 from Mr. and Mr: Harold Hansen, San Clemente, California, to the City of Carlsbad. " 3. Letter of November 15, 1968 from B & S Builc ers, San Clemente, California to the City of Carlsbad, indicating their approval, as property owners, of the zone change. 4. A document signed by twenty-one (21) indivic uals stating their opposition to the propose zone change. Chairman Little stated that since it was necessary to hold this' matter over until the meeting of Decem- ber 10, 1968', for the purpose of readvertising, he . would like the Planning Department to review the . petition signed by 21 individuals and determine whick ones are property owners and where there property is located. At the request of the Planning Director, the Chairmar agreed to proceed with the Public Hearing in the usuz manner witholding a final decision until the meeting of December 10th. The Pla'nning Director-presented the Planning Depart- ment Report and a map showing the property owners in the area and which lots would be effected by this zone change, stating that the property is locate-d mainly on Garfield West of the Railroad tracks. He pointed out that subject property is now zoned R-1 or R-2 with the proposed zone change to R-3 and with a chart for.visua1 aid explained the density of lots. The City Engineer. reported that the Engineering De- partment has not yet completed a report on the Public Improvements. that would be recommended 'if the, zone change were approved and.,stated that it should be completed prior to the December 10th meeting for presentation at that time. The Chairman inquifed if there was a spokesman desig- nated for the applicants in,this.case. The Planning Director stated. that Mrs. Troensegaard was the original applicant or representative and Mrs. Hicks was also involved -in the area that had signed petitions and applications, but they are actually representatives. Chairman Little announced the Commission would now hear from anyone who wished to speak in favor of khe application. MR. SHEFFLER, an owner of property on ~arfield stated the value of land is-so great, he cannot afford to live there and many 'others are in the same perdicamen and are in favor of the zone change. - COMMI.SSIONERS .. -CITY of CARLSBAD - COMMISSIONERS .- - I -3- I MRS. TROENSEGAARD, stated that now is the time to change the zoning in this area as they are ready to improve their property *at khis time. MR. ROYCE -BOND, stated that he wanted and' need the rezoning but questioned the 20 units. per acre maximur He stated that he would like to build a smaller unit but it would be impossible under this z'bning. He proposed that no definite number of units per acre be called for. He also brought up the fact that one consideration of R-3 zoning is the parking pro- blem. MR. TONY HOWARD-JONES, owner of property on the corne of Sequoia and Garfield, stated he agreed with the Planning Director on the planning of this area. He stated that beach.proper-ty is prime property for development.and that the property involved is the only land listed in Carlsbad that has' easy access to the State- Beach. . He pointed out that the land values have increased to such an extent that the * only thing one can build in that area is units. MRS. LOUELLA DAVIES, owner of property on Garfield, stated she is in agreement with Mrs. Troensegaard and-has studied the Master Plan. It was her feeling that a move such as this is a bold one but she has c'ompared La Jolla and Newport Beach and finds that their is a very stron parallel between these two conpnunities.. She stated that she felt this change would be in accordance with.the Master Plan and to go for anything but maximum use would be very short- sighted. MRS, DOROTHY REED, property owner on Chinquapin, voiced her opinion that she is in favor of the Planning Department recommendations. She stated looking from behind her property, there is vacant land which should be utilized. MR. CLOUD expressed his desire for a zone change and stated that he has been looking forward to it since there is.little he can do with his land under the present zoning. As there were no others present who wished ,to speak in favor of the zone change, the Chairman announced the Commission would now hear from anyone wishing to speak in opposition.' MRS. TASKER stated that she felt it' would be ashame to Change the zoning to R-3 as there is little such property up and down the coast of Southern.Califoynia She stated that there are many acres of land' availabl to build units that are not beach property and that , units are usually occupied by transients. She stat- ed she represented other people, one of which was Clint Pedley . JOYCE BONUS, Olive Drive, stated that some of the restrictions and requirements have not been presented yet and those who are in favor of the zone change do not even know what will be required of them. She questioned whether the property owner, if this area i .. -4- is changed to R-3, will still be able to live there and will they be able to even build there. She state she was not for or agaihst-the zone change. GEORGE MEESE, Garfield Street, stated that he has no intention of building a duplex or unit type building, because beach property:is worth a lot more money where a person will buy to construct a s-ingle family home.. He stated as previously mentioned by Mrs. Bonus, the property owners are not aware of what will be required o.f them and he did not feel the City would have enbugh power to control fence restrictions etc., in unit.type housing. He stated that he would be in agreement, perhaps, if he knew the restrictions and requirements but not to openly give the City a blanket agreement. .. MR. BLACK, Garfield Street, stated that on 'some of the side stqeets where there are duplexes and triplex es, there is no provision for off-street parking and it is difficu'lt to drive down the streets. He does not want this to happen on Garfield Street. MR. TED HELGESEN, 3978 Garfield Street, stated he is not,necessarily opposed to the zone change but point- ed out that Carlsbad is now a beautiful city. It could,be made to resemble La Jolla or Tijuana, which- ever way it goes. He stated he would be for the zone change if it were handled in a careful manner and hoped a sharp eye would be kept on this City. MRS. MARY BRIERLY, Garfield Street, stated that park- ing on this street is very bad now and that at this time the street is not paved, that is, there are no curbs and gutters. She is not in favor of this zone change. MYRTLE TAYLOR, Olive Drive, stated she had lived in Monterrey Park for .a number of years and is familiar with.the problems this type of zoning can cause. She stated when she lived there, they were building alot of units; when the building stopped, taxes went sky high. She 'also stated that multiple units bring all types of people into the community and that care- ful specifications shou,ld be set for parking facil- ities as this could be a major problem. As .there were no others wishing to speak in oppositio the Chairman declared the Public Hearing closed at - 8:25 P.M.. . Commissioner Gullett stated that the parking problem appears to be a big one. .. After further discussion by the Commission on'the parking problem and land use of this area, a motion ' was made to continue the hearing until the next regular meeting. .. COMMISSIONERS . . -... (b) COND'ITIONAL USE PERMIT - To consider.an appli- cation for a conditional use permit for the purpose of .allowing a 26.5 squa're foot sign on building locat ed at 1006 Elm Avenue, Northwesterly side of Elm Avenue, between Harding Street and Interstate #5 Freeway. Applicant: John A. Steiger & Associates Notice of hearing was read. The Secretky certified that property owners in the area were notified and then read the application. The Planning Director presented two transparencies for viewing of location of proposed sign, and stated that the sign will be a 26.5 square foot freestandins sign. Chairman Little inquired.'if the total sign area of all signs will be within the requirements set forth in the propased sign ordinance. The Planning Director stated that the sign itself ib within the proposed sign ordinance.but the total sigr area.if this sign is approved will exceed the require ments of the proposed sign ordinance so that it will be necessary for some adjustments to be.made. There is an excess of approximately 10 or 11 square feet. The Chairman announced the Commission would now hear from the applicant or his representative. As the applicant or his representative was not pre- sent, the Chairman announced the Commission would now hear from anyone else who would like to speak on this matter. * There was no one who wished to speak in favor or against this Condifional Use Permit. The.Chairman declared the Public Hearing closed at 8:.45 P.M. After discussion by-the-Commissioners, Chairman Little pointed, out that, in his opinion, it would not be wise to approve this permit since the total sign area will'exceed the proposed sign ordinance. It was suggested that perhaps the Conditional Use Permit could be granted with the stipulation that the total sign area not exceed the requirements. A motion was made.that the request for conditional use permit be granted s.ubject~to the sign not exceed- ing the 64 square feet of total'sign qrea allowed for all signs upon-the property and as prescribed within the proposed sign-ordinznce. Resolution No. 583. A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLSBAi CITY PLANNING COMMISSION GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT LOCATED AT 1006 ELM AVENUE, ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF ELM AVENUE, BETWEEN HAWING STREET AND INTER- STATE #5 FREEWAY, subject to the condition that the sign granted is included in the 64 square feet of' total sign area allowed for all signs upon the proper ty and as prescribed within the proposed sign ordin- ance, was adopted by title only and further reading waived. .. -. . I . .. ., . I I I COMMISSIONERS Lotion Lye s .. .. .. (c) RECLASSIFICATIQN - To consider an application for a change of zone from R-A to P-M (Planned Indus- trial located on the Westerly side of Interstate #5.Freeway, Northerly of Palomar Airport Road and Southerly.of Cannon Road. Applicant: Paul and Masdalena Ecke. Notice of hearing was read, The Secretary certified that property owners in the area were notified and then read the application, and read the following correspondence: -1. Letter from Terramar AssQciation Board of Directors stating they have no opposition to the proposed reclassification provided - that architecture and landscaping of the development on -all sides, is appropriate to the area and access roads will not cause traffic problems in the Terramar Area, .. The City Planner presented a map dipicting the lo- cation and shape of the area involved and stated ' that this contains approximately 53 acres. He state( as indicated in the Planning Department Report, that it is their recommendation that this zone change be approved, for reasons stated in report. The City Engineer presented the Engineering Departme1 Report, and explained that Cannon Road will be im- proved under.a.1911 Act Street Improvement Bond. He also explained where freeway ramps will be located in relation to 'this area. The Chairman annpunced that the Commission would now hear from the applicant or his representative.. MR. BRUCE STALLARD, representing Mr. and Mrs. Ecke, stated that the reason for the request of the zone change is because af the Burroughs Corporation. He pointed out that the zoning is the lightest of all industrial zoning and has been accepted by the pro- posed property owner, the Bcrrcughs Corporation who are very anxious to fit into this community in a manner which wili welcome them. He stated .that he and 'the applicant feel that the sight is well adaptec for this purpose as there-are no houses adjacent to the property. The Chairman announced that the Commission would now like to hear from anyone who would like to speak in favor or in opposition to this reclass'ification. As there was no one present-who wished to be heard, the Chairman announced the Public Hearing closed at 9:lO P.M. - Chairman Little stated this particular type of busi-. ness handles chemicals of various types, some of which are toxic and questioned the City Engineer as to whether the City's sewerage facilities are capa- ble of processing this type of waste. CITY OF CARLSBAD _- - ., -. . 1 -7- .. The City Engineer stated that the applicant must ob- tain a waste permit which-will set certain limits on what can be eliminated through the sewsrage system and also stated that he felt sure Burroughs would pre treat chemical waste before it is discharged into the sewerage system. He stated that Burroughs has bee advised and have agreed to meet the City's require- ments. MR. PAUL ECKE., applicant, stated regarding this matte that he had pkeviously discussed this with Burroughs representatives and they fully understood the pro- blems involved and have plans to construct a very costly pre-treatment plant to avoid any destruction in the area from chemica.1 waste. A motion was made.to adopt Resolution No. 584, grant- ing change of zone from R-A to P-M, as requested by the applicarits, Mr. and Mrs. Paul Ecke. Resolution No. 584. A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING FOR . CHANGE OF ZONE FROM R-A TO P-M ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE WESTERLY SIDE OF INTERSTATE #5 FREEWAY, NORTH- ERLY OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, AND SOUTHERLY OF CANNON ROAD, subject to the conditions listed in the City Engineer's Report, Items 1 through 8 inclusive, with the added condition that provisions be made for treat ment of chemical waste as approved by the City Engin- eer to preclude detrimental effects to the City's sewerage system, was adopted by title only and furthe reading waived. (dl PRE-ANNEXATJON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - To con- sider an application for a Pre-anne.xation conditional use permit for the purpose of allowing the construe- ~ .~ tion of a mobile home park. Notice of hearing was read. The Secretary certified that.property owners in the area were'notified and then read the application, and read the following correspondence: 1. Letter to the Planning Director frpm Walters & Son, Inc., designers of the proposed Mobile Park, stating they have enclosed a correction of the lot tabplations "for. this project. The Planning Director presented 'a transparency to point out the location and property ownership. He stated that the property -is located Northeasterly of El Camino Reai and Easterly of the present City Limits of Carlsbad, Westerly of the Sintorosa Go13 Course; stating that this is a very unusual request but typical of a pre-zoning request. He explained ' what steps are necessary prior to annexation and stated that this property is approximately 2,500 feet Easterly of the City Limits; approximately 1,200 feet to the closest lineal point. The improvements would be on approximately 75 acres and would constitute 6 spaces per acre. .. ~~ COMN,ISSiONERS Motion Ayes .. * - CITY. OF CARLSBAD - COMMISSIONERS c t '. - -8- The City 'Engineer presented the report prepared by the Engineering Departrqent on the proposed pre-annexa tion conditional use permit. The Chairman announced the Commission would like to hear from the applicant or his representative. MR. HENRY HASTINGS, Walters & Son, Inc., designer of the proposed Mobile Park, introduced Mr. Alan Kelly, Sr., owner of the property, and Mr. Dawes and Mr. .Schwab, the prospective owners of the property. He sighted three mobile parks which were designed by his company and stated they are very unique and of high quality. MR. ALAN KELLY, owner of subject property, stated tha the proposed Mobile park'is a very fine development and will be 'a credit to everyone' concerned and stated also that th'is is the highest type of Zevelopment for this land, at least for the next 15 or 20 years. He, .stated that he owns land both on the East and West side of the proposed site and felt that, if anything, this development will increase property value for land in the area. MR. RON SCHWAB, prospective owner, stated that he is very impressed with the City and has a fine develop- ment to offer this community. MR. HASTINGS, pointed out that briefly the benefits to the City would be that people living in this Mobile Park will be spending approximately $100,000 a month; $1,000,000 a year, there will be no load on the school district because this is an adult community,there will be no maintenance cost whatever .on streets since it is a private community and there will be no dedication, there will be no maintenance to the property as -the owners will care for it: as far as fire and police protection, surveys have shown there are less fire and police calls in Mobile Parks .than any other type of subdivision, the people who will reside in-the park are semi-retired or retired and will tak.e part in the community. He pres,ented sketches for the viewing.,of Commissioners and audience to depict the type of architecture designed for the Mobile Park, and the location of each .build- ing. Commissioner Palmateer inquired .if the developer had anticipated any possibility of floods in that area.' MR. HASTINGS answered that they have consulting engineers, who have spoken to Mr. Lill on this makter and have also consulted with the County Flood Control Agency and are now working on a flood control plan ' that would permit them to meet the requirements of the County and yet making it workable. They expect if the conditional use permit is granted it would.be subject to this condition. When Commissioner Dewhurst inquired if the construc- tion will be done in-separate stages or in one.stage, Mr. Hastings replied it would all be done in 'one stage due to the backlog Of orders.-on custom-built 1- '1 le hnmmc ~~~ - CITY OF CARLSBAD - "" COMMISSIONERS .. b -9- Commissioner Palmateer inquired if the City of Carls- bad Water and Sewer conhections will pose any probler for the developers and Mr. Hastings stated that the developers- do plan on annexing to the City of Carlsb; if the City agrees to such annexation and they of course will tie in with the water and sewer connectic and stated that easements can be obtain'e'd from other property through Mr. Kelly's property. There was no one.who wished to speak in favor of this application and those in opposition acknowledged their opportunity to do so.. REV: ROBERTS, IRWIN KELLY AND MR. CANTARINI! all raise some doubts about the flood control problem and also if the residents of the trailer park would be.paying their fair share of taxes. They stated there experi- ence and knowledge of the floods which leave water at a high level. on this property. MR.' HASTINGS explained that residents of this trailer park pay a fee similar to that of a car license and through the natural process of government is'eventual distributed and given back to the County. As far as the flood control problem, he assured them that this problem can and will be worked out to the satis- faction of the City and County. b The Chairman announced since there was no one else who wished to speak on this .matter, he would now declare the Public Hearing closed at 1O:lO P.M. Commissioner Palrhateer stated that although the subject area does not come within-. ,the General. Plan of the City of Carlsbad, he felt there were some 'factors that would-make it desirable and acceptable by this community. One factor pointed out by Commissioner Palmateer is that it is difficult to think of other land uses for khis-area at this time. He stated that he would recommend the Pre-annexation Conditional use permit.. After much discussion by. the Commissionson Annexation procedures, the flood control problem, etc., a motion was made to adopt Resolution No. 585, subject to certain conditions. Resolution No. 585. A F!ESOLUTI.ON OF THE CARLSBAD CITY PEANNING COMMISSION GRANTING A PRE-ANNEXATION CONDI- TIONAL USE PERMIT LOCATED ON THE NORTIiERLY SIDE OF .EL CAMINO REAL, AND APPROXIMATELY 3,000 FEET EAST OF KELLY DRIVE, subject to the conditions outlined by the Planning and Engineering Departments in items 1 through 5E, with the added condition that the flood control problem be worked out to the full agreement of both City ard County stipulations, was read by title only and further reading waived. , otion Yes oes - .- .. a CIlY OF CAIUSBAD COMMlSSlONERS t' .. " 6 -1 0- (e) TENTATIVE MAP - BRACK PARCEL MAP - 4 lots, locat, ed-on the Northerly side of Chinquapin Avenue between Longview Place and Jefferson Street. Applicant: Lucien Brack. Notice of hearing was read. The Secretary certified that property owners in. the area were notified and then read the .application. The Planning Director presented the Planning Depart- ment Report, stating that the bulk of the report would be given by the Engineering Department. The City Engineer presented the report from the En- gineering Department. The Chairman announced the Commission would ,now hear from the applicant or his representative. MR. HARRY TRUAX, of .E. Brian Smith Engineers, stated the Commission is familiar with this Tentative Map since it had appeared before them a few weeks ago. He stated that it is a very expensive and very poor system to try to prepare an improvement plan for that limited piece of street ftontage on Chinquapin. He felt that a grade line could better be established by the City Engineer's office and that they could see the improvements are constructed to it. The City Engineer stated.he realized Chinquapin has a very poor gra'de and that the Engineering Department will work with the firm of E. Brian Smith as much as they can, although it is the duty of the subdivi.der to prepare these street plans. The Chairman announced the Commission would now hear from anyone who wished to speak in favor or in opposi tion of this tentative map. There was no one present who wished to speak and the Chairman declared the Public Hearing closed at 10:40 P.M. A' motion was made to adopt Resolution No. 586., sub- ject to the conditions set forth in the Engineering Department Report, Items 1 through 11. .. OLD BUSINESS: There was no old business. . NEW BUSINESS: There was no new business. ADJOURNMENT : I (a) By proper motion, the meeting was adjourned at 10:45 P.M. Respectfully submitted, . .. NORA K. DANIELS Recording Secretary ___ ~~ -. ~ "-