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of. these departments that the Tentative Map be approve
and the City could put Stop signs at Catalina Drive -an
Chestnut Avenue, as well' as redesigning the barricade
for emergency exits. The intersection of Chestnutt an
El Camino Real was pointed out on .the City map and the
various unsuccessful attempts to obtain City right-of-
way for another access street were reiterated. Upon
questioning by the Commission, Mr. Lill estimated the
cost of City condemnation to obtain this right-of-way
from the owner on the North boundary line at five to
seven thousand dollars and it.was further clarified th I City had not contacted the owner in question in this
present situation. I IIIIIII
Commissioner Little stated, and it was later agreed by
other commissioners, that the additional access was an
absolute necessity and the City should pursue whatever
laction was required to accomplish this, and the cost. I 1111111 I thereof.
The Commission did not feel however, the development I IIIIIII
s.hou1d be further delayed because of the access'probler
which the developer could not solve himself, but rather
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gested another contact with the out-of-town owner woulc
this was a problem the City must resolve. It was sug-
be timely.
RICHARD TWIFERT, 3820 Catalina Drive, addressed the
Commission in opposition of additional development in
El Camino tract until another access was available and
added that 88 residents (91 homes) had signed a petiticn
in agreement with this opposition.
KARK MULLEN, representative of the developer's engineer- I ing firm, and speaking in favor of the additional-sub- - division, stated the County survey an.d report for majo
$1 1 inas for use. IIIIIII 1 access roads was a maximum of 700 dwt
Since this would not be the case at the iGtersection o
Catalina and Chestnutt Ave onto El Camino Real, it was IIIIIII
not going to be overused; certainly not, in relation to
other subdivisions in the North County area.
The motion was made to adopt Resolution No. 616 and Motion x
Irecommend aDDrova1 of the Tentative Map to the City I Ayes Ix I Ix Ix Ix I I
Counci 1.
A further motion was made that a letter be directed to Motion
the City Council by the Planning Commission, requesttn Ayes
that the problem of an additional access for El Camino Absen-t .. 1 -iPset\tine.lx 1 x :: x
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IMesa subdivision be pursued by the City. lAbs ta ned llxlllll I RESOLUTION NO. 616, A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLSBAD CITY
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF CERTAtN IIIIIII I VARIANCES AND THE TENTATtVE MAP OF EL CAMINO MESA UNtT
NO. 5 AND 6, identified by title only and further read I ing waived. The approval of certain Variances and the
Tentative MaD is for the reasons and subiect to the I IIIIIII
!conditions a; itemized in Staff ReDort dated Mav 16. I lllilll
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(b.) Continued - RECLASSIFICATION AND SPECIFIC PLAN -Tc
consider an application for Zone Change from R-1-7,SOC
to P-C (Planned Communit-y), and a Specific Plan locate
on the North Side of Tamarack Avenue between Highland
Drive and Margaret Way - Applicant-: Richard E. Geyer.
The public hearing was opened and Staff Report dated
May 27, 1969, was read in full by the Planning Directc
outlining both the zone reclassification and the
specific plan, as well as the staff's recommendation t
approve same, subject to itemized conditions. Exhibit
A (Site P1an)'was shown, with the landscaping and open
green areas in Green and the proposed buildings in
B row'n .
The Secretary then read the Written Communications
received on this application: 1) Letter from L. A,
Olsen, Realtor, 2785 Roosevelt Street, dated May 27, 1969, presented .his opposition to the zone change in
the R-1 zoning, as being R-3 in disguise. Other prob-
lems Mr. Olsen predicted by the rezoning were transpor
tation, shopping, non-use of presently zoned R-3 for
this development, and general downgrading of R-1 prope
2) A letter dated June 1, 1969 from Maurice Brunache,
1101 Rene Drive, Santa Ana, California and an adjoinin
property owner to subject property, in which the rezon
was protested as degrading residential property such a
exists in this area.
The Chairman then called for the applicant or his repr
sentative and DONALD L. SHAFFER, Architect, 233 "A"
Street, San Diego, approached the Commission. Mr.
Shaffer is the designer of this and other Planned Corn-
munity developments in San Diego County, and he explai
he would make about a 10 minute presentation to acquai
the Commission with the project, util.izing his talk on
a tape while he showed the graphics and flash cards on
the blackboard. Before this, Mr. Shaffer stated that
R-3 zoning (Multiple-Residential) would allow 122 unit
for the property in question, while the P-C zoning ap-
plication was for only 24 units.
Mr. Shaffer's presentation covered all the aspects of
the development as to density, traffic, noise, childre
design features, parking facilities,open green areas,
and recreation areas (no swimming pool is planned to
alleviate a noise problem). He also presented statist
justifying the need for an "adult community" in this
City and discussed the age and income of the individua
this type of project is geared for. In closing, Mr.,
Shaffer estimated the tax doila'r gain and school tax
contribution from this development to the City.
There being no others to speak in favor of the applica
tion, the Chairman called for those in opposition, and
HAROLD F. LARSEN, 1365 Tamarack Avenue, on property
directly opposite of the proposed development, address
the Commission. He took exception to many of the potr
made in the previous presentation by the architect, ir
particular the additional traffic on Tamarack, whi'ch
has no sidewalks at this time, the density proposed,
and the fact that this was strictly an adult comrnuntty
with no children allowed.
There were no others in opposition to the development,
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and the public hearing was closed, opening the dis-
cussion and questions from the Commission. These in-
cluded the density ratio, number of two-bedroom units
and parking facilities for each, the minimum -income
and market this development would require, and the
past problem of rezoning to R-2 or R-3, when R-3 zonin
was undeveloped in the City. The architect clarified
that all units would be two-bedroom units and 2-1/2
parking spaces had been allowed for each.
Commissioner Palmateer felt the comparison of R-3
zoning, or mu-ltiple family apartment houses, with the
Planned Community zoning was unfair and inaccurate.
He s,tated he was familiar with this zoning in other
California cities and it was a much-needed and welcome
first in Carlsbad, and several differences in the two
uses were given. He did question Item No. 7 of the
Staff Report concerning maintenance of common areas
and private onsite utilities, in the event the units
were sold to individuals. The architect later explain
the zoning provides that the maintenance cannot be don
by the individual owners, but must be contracted to
a company in that business. The architect was further
questioned on the availability of private ownerships
in this development, and it was explained this item ha
been included because of the time factor and financing
arrangements desired, but it was not known that this
would ever be the case.
Following clarification of this item, the motion was
made to adopt Resolutions No. 621 and 622, recommendin
to the City Council adoption of a change of zone and,
adoption of a specific plan for the reasons and condit
shown in Staff Report dated May 27, 1969.
RESOLUTION NO. 621, A RESOLUTtON OF THE CARLSBAD CtTY
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDtNG TO CITY COUNCIL A
CHANGE OF ZONE FROM R-1-7,500 TO P-c (PLANNED COMMUNI'T
ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTHERLY StDE OF TAMARACK
AVENUE, BETWEEN HtGHLAND DRPVE AND MARGARET WAY, whi.cR
was identified by title only and further readi-ng waive
approval was for the three reasons listed in Staff Re-
port dated May 27, 1969 and,
RESOLUTION NO. 622, A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLSBAD CITY
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDING TO CITY COUNCIL THE
ADOPTION OF A SPECtFIC PLAN FOR RICHARD E. GEYER, ON
PROPERTY ON THE NORTHERLY SIDE OF'TAMARACK AVENUE,
BETWEEN HIGHLAND DRIVE AND MARGARET WAY, also identifi
by title only and further reading waived; approval is
for the reasons listed in Staff. Report dated May 27, 1969, and subject to Conditions No. 1 through No. 15,
of the same report.
(c) CONDlTlONAL USE PERMIT - To allow the development
of a mobile home park - Rancho Hedionda Mobile Village
located aDDroximatelv one mile Northerlv of El Camino
Real, near and Southeasterly of Calavera Lake - Owner
and Developer: Robert L. Clark et al. ..
The Staff Report dated June 2, 1969 and City map dis-
playing the proposed development were presented by the
Planning Director, with the background information,.
reasons for approval recommendation, and conditions of
approval, being read in full. The Department's design
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1a.yout (Exh.ibit A) further showed the golf course and
open spaces in Green and other recreational facilities
were indicated in Red.
ROBERT L. CLARK, 400 Newport Cente-r Drive, Newport
Beach, California 92660, addressed the Commission as
representative and further advised the design firm for
this mobile home project was George Roach of Virge -
Roach Architects. Mr. George Roach was also present
for this application.
Mr. Clark stated, insofar as conditions of approval as
read from Staff Report above, his firm was agreeable t
dedication of College Boulevard as this was necessary,
but regarding Cannon Road, inasmuch as this road serve
no use as access to his property, the full improvement
of this road was not deemed necessary. They would giv
the requested right-of-way however. The remaining con-
ditions as presented in the Staff Report were felt to
be standard and were agreed to. Mr. Clark then turned
his presentation over to Mr. George Roach and Mr. Roac
d.escribed the terrain, homesites, golf course, and 0th
recreational features of the park. It was shown that
where homesite layouts were not contiguous with the
hilly or rough terrain, "green belt clusters" would be
used. The density pattern for this land, and the fact
that it will be both an adults-only and family area
park was presented.
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There being no others desiring to speak in favor of,
and none to speak in opposition to this project, there
were some in the audience with questions on certain
points of this development. ALLAN KELLY, 4675 El Camiro
Rea1;questioned the alignment of Cannon Road as shown
on Exhibit A, which appeared not to be in line with the
County's proposed alignment for this-road. The appli-
cant stated the County's proposal was unknown to him
and the Planning Director explained Exhibit Ats locat on
had been shown pending further study by the County.
HOWARD HARMON, Superintendent of Carlsbad Union School
District, questioned the applicant for estimate of how
many families with school-age children would result
from this development because of the possible need for
a school in or near it. The applicant was unable to
give an exact number until they see how familtes receiie
the park, but could estimate a maximum of 200 families
with children.
Discussion followed from the Commission and the appli-
cant regard'ing the access road, tie-in with El Camino
Real, sewer, power and water'hookup with CTty lines,
etc. The applicant offered that they have a 60 foot
right-of-way to tie in with the sewer line existing to
El Camino Real. The Cityss obligation for thls alread
annexed area regarding the tie-in for this property wa
referred to the City Engineer.for clarification, Mr.
Lill pointed out the extent of City sewer lrne to the
Rancho Carlsbad Mobile Home Park and stated the devel-
oper would be required to hook up to that 1 ?ne dn the
East boundary of that development; The water line from
El Camino Real to Calavera Lake could be tied into fro
this development by bringing their water lines over to
At one point, there appeared to be misunderstandings
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by' the deve.loper as far as the City's obligations to
extend the sewer and water lines nearer his property,
but it was later made cl'ear to the Commission that the
developer had understood there would be considerable
costs incurred by him to'bring these services into the
development. The developer further clarified th'e stre
within the development would not be dedicated ones, as
they were internal streets only. However, Cannon Road
would be dedicated to the City as the prime access roa
to the park.
The motion was made to adopt Resolution No. 625, grant
ing a Conditional Use Permit to allow the Rancho Hedio
Mobi'le Village, for the reasons and subject to conditi
outlined in Staff Report dated June 2, 1969.
RESOLUTION NO. 625, A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLSBAD CITY
PLANNING COMMISSION GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
REAL, NEAR AND SOUTHEASTERLY OF CALAVERA LAKE, identi-
fied by title only and further reading waived; approva
uas granted for the reasons (No. 1 and 2) and subject
to the condi tions (Nos. 1 thru 17) as shown in the
Staff Report dated June 2, 1969.
LOCATED APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE NORTHERLY OF EL CAMINO
(d) CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT EXTENSION AND AMENDMENT -
To consider application for ten-year extension of the
original Conditional Use Permit, and Amendment to perm
sale of beer at all events except drag races - Carlsba
Raceway Corporation, located approximately two miles
East of Palomar Airport and North of Palomar Airport
Road.
The Staff Report dated May 27, 1969, was read in full
by the Planning Director, which presented certain fact
regarding the original Conditional Us.e Permit and prev
requests to allow sale of beer; also, the recommenda-
tion to deny this request and supportive data was read
The Secretary introduced all the correspondence receiv
on this application, as follows: (1) Letter with five
attachments (location sketch and 4-page petition with 75 signers), dated May 1, 1969 from Larry Grismer,
President of Carlsbad Raceway. Ten (10) items of "Dire
Benefits to the residents and businessmen of the City
of Carlsbad" and, three (3) "Reasons for requesting
Permission to sell beer at motorcycle and events other
than drag racing" were read; Petition with 75 signers
was headed "We the undersigned, feel that the Carlsbad
Raceway has been beneficial to the overall interests o
the City and recommend that you'extend their Condition
Use Permit for ten years".
(2) Letter dated June 2, 1969 from Russell L. Thibodo,
Margaret J. Thibodo, Roger Meisinger and Marilyn
Meisinger was read, protesting the extension and the
amendment. These individuals own approximately 1,600
acres of land, a portion of which immediately adjoins
the Carlsbad Raceway. The inability to develop to a
higher use and the serious detrimental effects on real
property in this vicinity were given as reasons for
protest.
(3) Letter dated June 6, 1969 from Jack and Roberta
Adams, 800 East Washington, Escondido, was read, prote
ting extension of the Conditional Use Permit and out-
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li‘ning terms of the original permit and the conditions
that existed in that vicinity at the time. The fact
that time has changed th-e potential of that area and
they desire to offer their property to developers who
are adverse to the drag strip exis.ting there, summariz
their protest to this application.
(4) Letter dated June 8, 1969 from Clarence H. Dawson
and adjacent property owner, protested the application
and requested it be denied. The dragstrip as a public
nuisance, noise from the events, undesirable persons
causing damage and trash to the countryside, and its
?eration hindering surrounding development, were cited
as r’easons of this protest.
Following this written correspondence, the Chairman
called for the applicant or his representative. J. S.
BELON D, 929 Goldenrod, Newport Beach, California, ad-
dressed the Comm.ission as president of the Corporation
and stated he felt the raceway had had much beneficial
effect on the City and had also brought much revenue
to the City, as well as considerable good publicity.
DONALD C. DUNHAM, 2228 State Street, a local represent
tive of the Corporation, spoke in favor of this appli-
cation, and refuted an item of the Staff Report which
stated beer would be sold by minors at events and note
this was against the State Laws as well.
There were no others present in favor of the applica-
tion and those in opposition were called for. DON
MARTINSON, 365 East Broadway, Vista, attorney represen
ting the Thibido and Meisinger property, Lake San Marc
Mr. and Mrs. Frank B. Delfy, and himself, offered many
reasons his clients protested any extension of time fo
the raceway; particularly, as it hindered further de-
velopment of surrounding property. He requested this
present application be denied and the permit be allowed
to run through it’s original date of 1973.
IRL R. ROBINSON, Attorney, First National Bank Buildin
San Diego, a property owner in near vicinity and auth-
orized to represent the Dressy Ranch, Howard Ranch, an
La Costa, all of whom do not desire an extension of
this permit that still has 4 years to run. He also
cited some of the reasons he and his clients opposed
the raceway in that particular area, particularly as
it affected hlgher and better development of t.he area.
Following completion of those opposed to this applica-
tion, the public hearing was’cl’osed and Commission
discussion centered around the prematurity of the re-
quest for extension beyond the 1973 date.
A motion was made to deny the Conditional Use Permit
extension and, amendment to allow sale of beer.
RESOLUTION NO. 624, A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLSBAD CIT’
PLANNING COMMISSION DENYING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
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EXTENSION AND AMENDMENT, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY TWO MIL
EAST OF PALOMAR AIRPORT AND NORTH OF PALOMAR ArRPORT
ROAD, identified by title only and further reading
waived, for the following reasons:
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B. That no evidence was presented indicating there
is a demand for this request;
C.. Not in the best interests of the surround propert
owners;
D. That the application is prema'ture at this time du
to the original Conditional Use Permit not expir-
ing until 1973.
(e) RESOLUTION OF INTENTtON NO, 65 - To consider
recommending to City Council the Amendments to Ordinqn
No. 9060. under Section 1 and Section 2. concerni'na I
areenhouses and Dackina and sortina sheds. ..
The Chief Building Inspector briefed the background on
this Resolution of Intention, as resulting from a requ
on his department for a packing shed of excess.?ve db
mensions, at which time he sought permission Prom the
Commission to al.10~ that request, and future ones. It
was explained the proposed amendments to the ordtnance
would set down the requirements needed to make future
d.ecisions of this type. There were no questions from
the audience and none further from the Commission; a
motion was therefore introduced to recommend these
amendments to Ordinance No. 9060 to the City Council
as contained in Resolution No. 627.
RESOLUTION NO. 627, A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING AN AMEND
MENT TO ORDINANCE NO. 9060 BY AMENDING ARTICLE 5, SECT
500, SUBPARAGRAPH 3, AND ADDING SUBPARAGRAPHS 23 AND 2
TO ARTICLE 14, SECTION 1400, REGARDING GREENHOUSES AND
PACKING AND SORTING SHEDS, identified by title only an
further reading waived; this recommendation was for th
following reasons:
4. Based on the past investigation,. this matter is
felt to be in the best interests of the City of
Carlsbad;
B. These items are not detrimental to surrounding
properties.
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(a) Conditional Use Permit to allow construction and use of a U.S. Post.Office Building and parking facilit
Resolution No. 580, November 12, 1968.
The Chairman introduced a motion regarding the orBenta
tion of the' post office building and asked the Plannin
Director to clarify this need for the Commission. It
was explained the granting of original Conditional Use
Permit for this building did not clearly control the
location of the building and the public parking space.
Further, the engineering firm for the post office but1
ing now proposes to shift the-parking facilities 180
degrees as opposed. to what was shown on the Exhibit A
which was introduced for original Condttional Use Perm
and which was acted upon.
The Planning Director presented subject Exhibit A and
showed how the building location and public parking wo
be affected by these changes as proposed by the engi'ne
firm. He also read the reasons and conditions for gra
ing the original permit, as contained rn Resolution No
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Following this background of the original permit and
the explanation for this. present motion, it was agreed
by the Commission they had indeed acted on this appli-
cation, with Exhibit A an integral part of the applica
tion as originally presented, and it should be complie
with, as shown.
The motion was made that the orientation of the propos
post office building remain fixed, as designated on
Exhibit A of Conditional Use Permit, Resolution No. 58
and that the -intent of said resolution include the
relationship of the public entrance and loading areas
to the respective streets, as per Exhibit A.
(b) Continued - Two (2) Requests for House Move -
Referred by Building Department for decision regarding
issuance of permit; originally Jtems 1 and 2 of Agenda
for Adjourned Meeting, June 4, 1969.
Mr. Jack McCoy, applicant for the item of 4 house move
t.o 985 Laguna Drive, was present and was desirous of a
decision on the 4 dwellings in question, althought it
was pointed out to him several Commissioners had not
seen the houses in question, or the proposed location.
Mr. Osburn presented his department's report and state
the ordinance requires this request be heard by the
Commission for a decision, before a permit can be issu
Mr. McCoy had prepared a chart showing all the houses
to be moved, which was passed to the Commission for
viewing and presented his reasons for this request, an
the intended use, following relocation and refurbishin
Mr. Osburn stated his department could not recommend
these house moves, in that the quality of the construc
tion was certainly questionable as he was aware of the
history of these buildings. ACso, they would have to
pass inspections after beina moved and he did not thin
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these particular buildings up to code. Primaril
older buildings were opposed to the proposed and
for development in this area, following the tren
set by a recent project in this vicinity.
on was made to continue the request for house
until the next regular meeting of June 24, 1969,
to allow time to study the buildings in question and
the proposed location for them.
It was clarified the applicant for the second item of
request for house move, Mr. John Scanlon, was not
present and this item will be continued as the item ab
NEW BUSINESS:
(a) Resolution of Intention No., 66 - To consider amen
ing the Zoning Ordinance to cover veterinary hospitals
with a Conditional Use Permit, and hold a public heari
at a later meeting.
The Planning Director read the proposed Resolution of
Intention No. 66 and stated that the zoning ordinance
is felt to be quite restrictive regarding this type of
facility, in that veterinarians and small animal hospi
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ta.ls have changed considerably. It was further felt
that to limit these facilities to the C-M zone might
)e an injustice to them;. therefore, a review is in ordl
to study the complete situation.
It was agreed this situation should be studied and up-
iated, and a motion was made to adopt the resolution ts
lold a prblic hearing on the matter July 8, 1969.
3ESQLUTlON OF INTENTION NO. 66, A RESOLUTtON OF THE
'LANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD DECLARING
ITS INTENTION.TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NO.
3060, BY ADDING SUBPARAGRAPH 25 TO ARTICLE 14, SECTION
1400*, REGARDING VETERINARIANS AND SMALL ANIMAL HOSPITA
these amendments will be considered at a public hearin
3n July 8, 1969, at 7:30 P.M., and notice of said pub1
Tearing shall be given according to law.
4DJOURNMENT:
By proper motion the meeting was adjourned at 11:18
'..M., and agreed unanimously by voice vote.
Respectfully submitted,
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