HomeMy WebLinkAbout1969-09-10; Planning Commission; MinutesCO'I'V OF CARLSBAD
MINUTES OF: PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE OF MEETING: SEPTEMBER 10, 1969
TIME OF MEETING: 7:30 P.M.
PLACE OF MEETING: COUNC t L CHAMBERS
ROLL CALL:
City staff representative,s present: Stuart Wilson, Cit)
Attory, Joe Olinghouse, Planning Director, and Joe
Spano, Asst. City Engineer. Councilman Carl H. Neis-
wknder was also present at this meeting.
Commissioner Gullett was present at 7:41 P.M.
IAPPROVAL OF MINUTES:
(a) Minutes of the regular meeting of August 26, 1969
were'approved as submitted, by a motion receiving a
majority voice vote,
Pre
Abs
Mot
Aye Abs
Abs
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
There were no Written Communications at this meeting.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
(a) Chairman Jose reminded the Commission of the up-
coming (September 28th) League of California Cities Con
vention in San Francisco, as to the time factor for
reservations and registration if they plan to attend.
(b) Chairman Jose advised of his recent visit to the
city of Susanvil le, California (Northern Cal iforni'a),
at which time he had an opportunity to observe this
city's recreational area and golf course on a very smal
,city-owned lake. He stated he was impressed with this
'effort and had obtained background informatton about tt from the city hall there, in relation to Carlsbadts
own plans for Lake Calavaras as a recreational area.
(c) The Chairman reminded the Commission of the San
Diego County Planning Congress dinner meeting on Octobe
17th at 5:30 PM at the Atlantis Restaurant in San Diego
All Planning Commissioners should receive notice of thi
very important meeting, the subject of which is "Out-
door Recreation and Tourism."
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
(a) TENTATIVE MAP - To consider recommending Approval
of a Tentative Map known as the Vanderburg Parcel map,^
located on the Northeast Corner of El Camino Real and
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future Marron Road - Applicant: Otis E. & Christine
Vanderburg.. ..
The Staff Report dated September 3, 1969 was presented
by Mr. Spano of the Engineering Department, along with
a department layout indicating lo'cation, proposed devel-
opment, streets, etc. He read the recommendations and
conditions of approval regarding required improvements,
traffic signals, water and sewer facilities for the pro-
posed service station by Shell Oil Company.
The Chairman called for the applicant or his representa
tive and MR. JOHN WILLIAMS, 6667 Wandamer Court, San
Diego, addressed the Commission as representative for
the developer, Shell Oil Company. Mr. Williams stated
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use Marron
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that while he agreed to the City Engineer's recommenda.
tions, at this time they wished to only complete half-
street improvements on Marron Road, in that they were
snly leasing Lot 1 on this property. He stated they
could erect a barricade t'hereby forcing the public to
Road now. They also wished to put no
ts at all on Marron Road until such time as
lot is developed. They would put in the im-
to the boundary line at this time, with the
i cade.
no others in the aud
3r in opposition of this Tentat
hearing was closed at 7:40 PM.
was present at 7:41 P.M.)
Various Commissioners then ques
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ve Map and the public
(.Commissioner Gul lett
t ioned Mr. Spano regards
ing the full street improvements requirement as contail
ed in the report; and discussion followed regard.ing thc
safety aspects and traffic pattern at this service sta'
tion without the recommended improvements in full. Thc
previous Specific Plan for this property was referred
to, at which time the entrance and exit to the station
das questioned and full street improvements were pro-
posed.
Following the discussion which determi'ned full street
improvements were a necessity at thi-s location, the
motion was made to recommend approval of the TentatPve
Map application.
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 635, A RESOLUTION 0
THE CARLSBAD CITY PLANNING COMMtSSlON RECOMMENDING AP-
PROVAL OF A TENTATIVE MAP FOR OTIS E. AND CHRISTINE
VANDERBURG, identified by title only and further readi.~
wavied;.said Approval shall be contingent upon adherenl
to the recommendations contained in Staff Report dated
September 3, 1969, Items 1 through 7. A copy of this
resolution shall be forwarded to the City Council for
it's further handling.
(b) CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - To consider allowing the
construction and use of a Fenced Heliport Pad, located
Southerly of Carlsbad State Park and West of Old Coast
Highway 101 - Applicant: John H. VanderSchel
Mr. Olinghouse was called upon for the Staff Report ant
he first referred to a department layout to point out
the location for this heliport pad at the Southern ex-
tremity of the City, as well as'the surrounding proper'
ties. He then read the report dated September 4, 1969
in full, covering the applicant's proposed use, genera
information, the staffl's recommen'dation to deny this
use, and conditions to apply, if approved.
The Chairman called for the applicant and MR. JOHN H.
VANDER SCHEL, 1001 Hurstdale Avenue, Cardiff, Calif.,
92007, introduced himself as the applicant and stated
he was agreeable to the conditions of approval as read
by the Planning Director, and would be glad to answer
any que.stions at that time, having nothing to add to
his application as presented.
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Mr. VanderSchel stated he had instigated this appli'ca-
tion at the request of the U.S. Coast Guard, who are
desirous of having helicopter service avai'lable as clos
to the water as possible,, as opposed to ttiei'r normal,
larger aircraft operations and, at'considerable cost
savings over their normal operatrons. He plans to uti'-
lize the close proximity to the ocean for man and shi'p
spotting operations, such as currently is 6ei'ng done i:r
Pacific Beach wi.th small helic pters such as tips. Upor
questioning, Mr. VanderSchel stated his affiiiati'on wtt
the F.A.A. had received approval from both the Ocean-
side district representative and the State representa-
tive.
Yr. VanderSchel briefed the Commi'ssion on h.Is plan,ned
operations, stating that the pad would be located 10Q
feet from Old Highway 101, his takeoff and landing
pattern would always be from the ocean side, to avert
any traffic hazard on the htghway or the nearby State
Park. He further stated that while he parked his air-
:raft at Palomar Airport and would use that facility as
3 home base, he still felt the heliport pad at the beac
location would serve his operations better. Further,
lis 10 x 10 ft. pad could not be used by other heli-
:opters because it was too small and he did not fore-
see the use of his facility getting "out of hand". rn
answer to queries about the recreational uses of his
lelicopter, Mr. VanderSchel stated he hoped to promote
'back-country" field trips for prospective developers
>r buyers, but that he would offer helicopter rides at
:ertain times to help offset his equipment and operatto
:osts. He did not feel the proximity of the State Park
:ampers and traffic on Hwy. 101 would hamper this type
opera t'i on.
The Chai-rman called for any others to,speak in favor or
in oppostion of this application and a MR. ROLPH, 4433
Santa Ana Street, Cudahy, California addressed himself
as representative for the owners of 36 acres directly
across the highway from this proposed operation. He
stated they were opposed to this particular type use at
that location and that such operation would not be con-
dusive to their plans for development across from it.
YORRIS MORGAN, 128 Anders Street, Leucadia, CAlifornia,
spoke as representa.tive of California Dept. of Parks
and Recreation, San Diego Coast Beaches, who felt this
~se would be offensive to the normal atmosphere of the
>ark near this location and, could be unsafe as well.
,AWRENCE WRIGHT, 6535 Easy St'reet, Carlshqd [Solamar
vlobile Estates owner), stated the already heavy- use by
iughes Aircraft Company and the m.i 1 i'tary of the coastal
area for flight operations, should be a popnt of; consi'd
?ration for this application.
'ollowing these comments and there being no others, the i 3ubl ic hearing was closed at 8:15 P.M. The Comm
discussed the various points of th.is appl ?cation
referred specific questions to the appli'cant for:
ication. Commissioner Gullett presented several
in favor of a heliport operatton i:n Carls-bad for
Jency evacuation, boat spottinq, and like operat
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Upon questioning the applicant stated he would prefer
a Conditional Use Permit that would allow for the
recreational uses as well, but that he would conform to
the conditions of approva,l governing such operations.
Following additional discussion of this use, the motion
was made to grant a Conditional Use Permit for this ap-
plication at the proposed location.
P'LANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 637, A RESOLUTION OF
THE CARLSBAD CITY PLANNING COM.MISSION GRANTtNG A CON-
DITIONAL USE PERMIT, LOCATED SOUTHERLY OF CARLSBAD STAT
PARK AND WEST OF OLD COAST HtGHWAY 101, FOR A FENCED
HELIPORT PAD, identified by title only and further read-
ing waived; such Conditional Use Permit shall be for a
One (1) Year Period and subject to the Conditions of
Approval as itemized in Staff Report dated September 4, 1969 and is granted for the reasons stated below:
1. There is a growing need for such a helipad facility
in this area;
2. It will not be detrimental to the surrounding prop-
erties;
3. It will provide, and fulfill a need for, ernergency-
type services.
NEW BUS I NESS:
(a) Commissioner Palmateer brought up the subject of
landscaping for the new freeway right-of-way through
Carlsbad and hoped the City would contact the.State
Divisi.on of Highways prior to this construction to lear
what was available in landscaping for this area. The
Planning Director And Councilman Neiswender were questi
ed for any recent developments by the County regardi'ng
Interstate 5 and partkcularly the landscaping program
for a "scenic corridor" as planned by the County. Mr.
Olinghouse stated he would keep the Commission aware of
the County project and, Mr. Neiswender stated he knew
of no recent changes regarding landscaping although he
had understood that all highway programs presently ap-
proved and engineered would be completed this fiscal
year. He also felt the City should pursue the question
of landscaping and suggested that the Planning CommFssi
instigate this action to the State.
Following additional discussion, a motion was made to
draft a letter from the Commission to the Council, with
copies to the Parks & Recreation Commission, requesting
the proper contacts be made to the County and the State
agencies regarding possible 1ands.cape programs for the
Carlsbad portion of Interstate 5 right-of-way. This
motion received a unanimous voice vote approval.
(b) Commissioner Gullett presented comments on a recent
San Diego newspaper article about sites for a major jet
airport, one of which is cited as Palomar Airport. Mr.
Gullett asked the Commission to keep abreast of any
plans of this nature and to be aware of the many prob-,
lems involved in a major airport in this city. While
he was aware of San Diego's need of such a facility,'he
also felt other locations under consideration would
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OLD BUSINESS:
There was no Old Business at this time,
ADJOURNMENT:
The motion was made and unanimously approved by
voice vote to adjourn the meeting at 8:52 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
RecordinB/S&retary
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