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MINUTES OF:
DATE OF MEETING:
TIME OF MEETING:
PLACE OF MEETING:
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PLANN tNG COMM tSStON
NOVEMBER 10, 1969
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS-
ROLL CALL
City staff representatives present: Stuart Wilson,Cit
Attorney, E. J. Olinghouse, Planning Director.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
fa) Minutes of the regular meeting of October 28, 196
were approved as submitted, by a motion receiving a
voice vote approval.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
(a) The Chairman briefed a letter he had received fro
San Diego Planning Congree re a luncheon meeting in
Mission Valley on Wednesday, November 19th, to elect
officers for the forthcoming year, etc. The Chairman
indicated he would attend this meeting.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Oral Communications at this time.
PUBL I C HEAR I NGS
(a) VARIANCE - Application to consider Request for Re
location of Certain Existing Signs, located at 1145 El
Avenue on the SE Corner of Pi0 Pic0 Drive and Elm Aven
Applicant: Shell Oil Company.
The Planning Director presented the Staff Report
dated November 4, 1969, which set forth the background
recommendation for approval of subject application, th
reasons for such recommendation, and conditions to
govern. ~ A layout transparency was pr.ojected and the
proposed locations of all signs, as well as the new
alignment for Interstate 5, were pointed out.
The Chairman having called for the applicant or
his representative, MR. CAL MASSEE of the San Diego
office of Shell Oil Company, approached the Commission
and introduced himself as the Real Estate agent for th
district office. Mr. Massee stated the application fo
a Variance was presented at this time to allow for the
existing signs, although the actual construction phase
for the freeway and subsequently, for the service stat
in question, was still some time away. He added they
were in agreement with the recommendation to approve
and, the conditions imposed could be met.
There were no others in the audience to speak in
favor or in opposition of this application and the pub
hearing was closed at 7:40 P.M. ‘During the Commission
discussion that followed, it was clarified tfiat the
ervice station building itse1.f is to be moved, as we1
s the building sign and one (1) other sign, as requir
or the freeway widening program. Further, that the
arge,statiomry sign(whicfi is not to be relocated), wt1
ecome non-conforming at the completion of the morator
COMMISSIONERS
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Yes bsent
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(which IS 63 ft.h1gh,320 sq.feet)
Further discussion regarding the stationary sign.,
pointed out that it was clearly visible from the free.
way enroute in either a- Northerly or Southerly direc-
tion, while certain other service station signs were
not visible. The sign l'imitations, as contained in
the recently adopted sign ordinance, were discussed a!
they applied to this Variance application and, all no1
conforming signs within the City. Several points of
the sign ordiance were also discussed, i.e., moratoril
periods, enforcement of the ordinance, and the present
of new, non-conforming signs.since the adoption of thc
ord i nance.
*There being no further questions or discussion by
the Commission, a motion was made to deny this applic;
tion for a variance to relocate existing signs.
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 641, A RESOLUTION
VARIANCE TO PERMIT RELOCATION OF CERTAIN EXISTING SlGl
LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF PI0 PIC0 DRIVE AND
ELM AVENUE, identified by title only and further madil
waived: the reason for such denial is: 1) That the
OF THE CARLSBAD.CITY PLANNING COMMISSION DENYING A
proposed sign moves will not be in conformance with tt current sign requirements for the City of Carlsbad.
OLD BUS I NESS
(a) At this time, it was decided that signs and the
City's sign ordinance should be discussed as there
were many problem areas. After questioning the City
Attorney on several points, it was agreed the Commissi
should draft a letter to the City Manager regarding
enforcement of the ordinance as regards the older, nor
conforming signs, non-conforming sig,ns since the adop-
tion of the ordinance (February 1968), and signs ereci
without a permit. The Planning,Director was asked to
work with the Building Department in obtaining a list
of signs in violation within the City, to be used as
supportive data to the City Manager. Mr. Olinghouse
stated he would attempt to have the list available at
the next regular meeting November 25th.
NEW BUS I NESS
There was no New Business presented at this meet-
i ng.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
[a) Service Stations and Auto-Related Uses Work Com-
mittee: Chairman Jose reported there is to be another
work session to review the final' draft from the Planni
Department, where the complete sect ion (Sect ion 14) t:
being redone to add th ts amendment.
(b) Public Uti1it.ies Zone Work Committee: Mr. 01ing.-
house stated that a final draft for review and dts-
cussion will be presented at the next meettng, pri'or
to a pub1 ic hearing.
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(c) Residential Density Zone Work Committee: Chairhar
Jose stated he, had attended the first work sessfon as
alternate for Commissioner Llttle and that the Planntr
1 ~epartment is preparing a revised draft on this also.
COMMJSSIONERS
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lotion
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committee Reports (Continued)
(c) Also, there is a possibility of another residentia
density ordinance for si'ngle family areas, entitled
(d) Community Involvement Committee and Sub-Committees:
.Chairman Jose reported on the first meeting of this
group, which had been for the purpose of appointing
the members and chairman and .setting up meeting dates
for the four -sub-committees. Mr. 01 inghouse reported
on the first meeting of the Human Relations sub-com-
mittee, at which the work projects had been formulated.
(e) Mr. Olinghouse stated he hoped the Commissioners
would come in at their leisure, prior to the next meet
ing on November 25th, in order to view the exhibited
design layouts, .background material, etc., for the
forthcoming H. B. Development Company proposal now be-
fore the City.
He further discussed the merits and necessity of
pre-fil ing conferences for large or otherwise unusual
proposals to the City, in order to avoid lengthy delay!;
and/or misunderstandings that might otherwise occur.
These pre-filing conferences would include City staff
representatives, the developer, and representation frorl
the Planning Commission. He added he hoped to utilize
this concept on future proposals of this nature.
ADJOURNMENT
The motion was made and affirmed by voice vote to
adjourn the meeting at 8:07 P.M.