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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1969-11-25; Planning Commission; MinutesCITY OF CARLSBAD MEETING OF: PLANNING COMMlSStON DATE OF MEETING: NOVEMBER 25, 1969 TIME OF MEETING: 7:30 P.M. O'CLOCK PLACE OF MEETING: CITY COUNCtL CHAMBERS ROLL CALL: . City Staff members present: Stuart Wilson, City Attor- ney, Bob Johnston and E.,J. Olinghouse of the Planning Department, and Hunter Cook, City Engineer. Councilma Neiswender was also present. Commissioner Gullett was present at 7:35 P,.M. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes of the adjourned meeti.ng of November 10, 1969 were approved, as corrected, by a motion receiving y a voice vote approval. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: (a) A letter dated November 21, 1969 from the San Diego County Planning Congress was read by the secretary and concerned a recent Board of Directors meeting being ad- journed to December loth, at 12:OO Noon at the Holiday Inn. The future of the Planning Congress will be the topic of discuss, in view of the poor attendance at these meetings. Those who plan to attend were requested to contact the department secretary prior to noon, December 8th, for reservations. I"" Chairman Jose commented on his attendance of the Board of Directors meeting which had to be adjourned due to lack of a quorum necessary for election of 1970 officers, etc. He also extended an invitation to atten the luncheon meeting December loth, in order to make the Commission's wishes known regardi'ng continuation of this organization. 3RAL COMMUNICATIONS: (a) Mr. Harry Truax, 4125 Harbor DrTve, and a member of this City's CBDAC (Central Business District Action Commission), made a request on behalf of that group to review the appealed application for a Small Animal Clinic from Dr. Henry C. Gregg, D.V.M., whichtes been returned to this body for report, following the public hearing before the City Council. He advised this coul be accomplished at the meeting scheduled for December loth, after which they would report back to the Planni Commission. Further, he felt this particular applica- tion was relevant to the interests and intent of the CBDAC. Mr. Truax was advised his request would be decided later in the evening, when this item of business came efore the Cammission. COMMISSIONERS 'esen 'sent t ion es COMMISSIONERS CITY OF CARLSBAD -2- The Planning Director stated he would read the entire Staff Report dated November 19th (containing eleven pages), with Mr. Johnstoh assisting by pointing out th various applications for land use as they were discuss in the report. This report presen.ted a background of the H. B. Development Company's proposed uses on 380 acres of land, which is also proposed for annexation t the City. Following the individual reports on each application, the recommendation for approval of the complete development and the conditions imposed, were introduced. Mr. Olinghouse was then questioned further on var of the applications, i.e., the freeway service cluster and the allowed signs for same. Mr. Johnston pointed out one (1) pole sign will apply to the freeway cluste and one (1) pole sign (no higher than the building), will be needed for each individual service within the cluster. He elaborated upon the new concept being use in these freeway clusters, which will provide all the normal services for the residents and freeway traffic. H.e stated there will be architectural controls, with a service stations have one design style and only the one pole sign will bear their identifying colors, insi etc. Upon questioning about the two parks proposed wit the development, Mr. Johnston clarified that one is planned for the public use and one is planned for the development's use. Regarding the potential population of 10 to 12 thousand people, Mr. Olinghouse stated thi was an optimum figure projected for the final phase of development, which is some time away. The secretary read three letters regarding this application, all of which either were in accord with the proposed development or posed no objections to it. MR. RUSSELL GROSSE, Attorney at Law, 804 Third Street, Oceanside, introduced himself as a representat of the developer in this application and stated he had enjoyed working with the City staff, as well as the individual firms represented in this effort. He offer to answer any questions the Commission might have. MR. JACK ROBINSON, 6550 Ponto Drive, owner of the Lanikai Lane Mobile Home Park, complimented the appli- cants in their efficient presentation and stated he ha no specific objections to the proposed uses, but he did require. clarification on some six points, namely regarding Avenida Encinas exten'tion, use of Carlsbad Boulevard in the proposed mobile home parks, height limitations, sewer crossing the public right-of-way,ar future plans for La Costa Road. The City Engineer answered these questions to the satisfaction of Mr. Rob i nson. The Commissioners presented several questions re- garding certain items of the proposal. The most press ing of these was the set-aside areas for one elementar school and one-half junior high school. Mr. Olingho~ stated this land would be made available to the school district at such time as they desired school locatidns for the area. He added the school situation for the proposed population was one that could be worked out as the development progressed and, that the develoPmer I )US ri n re I CITY OF CARLSBAD COMMlSSlONERS -3- of- adjacent. areas (which fortunately are large areas) , would ease the strain of providing schools for the who a rea. The increased densities in ce.rtain parts of the area was questioned and compared to the present de-nsit in the City proper. In figuring the present residenti acreage of the City and that proposed in this new area Mr. Olinghouse found the density nearly equal. MR. ALLAN 0. KELLY, 3455.Spanish Way, and a membe of the school-.board, stated that the board had viewed the proposed development with some concern for the fut school s,ituation, but that they could not oppose it at this time, not knowing what problems will arise. MR. HARRY TRUAX, 4125 Harbor Drive, stated he wis to comment regarding the attitude that mobile home par fail to carry their portion of the tax burden in a cit in that his firm has recently updated a study of these parks which reaffirmed the fact that they are very definitely an asset to a city. The tax rates returned to a city were almost the same as those from a R-3 apa ment development. They also maintain their own street sewer, etc. and the city is thereby relieved of consid erable service cost and burden. Upon questioning about the sewer facilities for this new area, Mr. Cook stated the additional use coul be accommodated with the addition of sewer facilities now planned by the City for the present system. The questions of fire department service and poli department coverage for this remote area from the city proper were also reviewed. MR, JACK ROBINSON returned to support the positio of mobile home parks returning revenue to the City, as viewed from his own experience, and offered supporting facts and figures regarding tax rates, sewer assess- ments, school taxes, etc. He added that the problem of providing schools was of real importance for the City, the developer and all citizens. MR. GROSSE returned to discuss the school sites, the problem of providing medium-priced housing in Carl bad and the inability of the developer to provide scho for an area without the homebuyer incurring the cost, added on to the already spiraling construction costs. He added th.at mobile home parks were one answer to the construction costs, and increased densities were the only answer to the acute housing shortages across the country. He stated an estimated $40 million dollars i construction will be spent for the entire development which would return some $1 million dollars to the City in addition to the jobs which-wf11 be provi'ded and the new economy for the community. Mr. Grosse added there is nothing in the City's ordinances requiring a develo to build schools or deed school sites, nor is this fou in State law. Following additional discussion from the Commissi Commissioner Palmateer stated he had spent considerab time in reviewing this application and felt it was a very fine venture for the City. The land use and pre e 1 re ed S 9 t- 9 e - Is e er d n, P - 2 8: CITY OF CARLSBAD -4- Commissioner Jose commented on the final development of eight service stations in the whole area, which he had originally felt to be excessive but with H.B. Dev elopment Company maintaining these areas, he now felt it would be a neat and orderly operation. Also, the added controls afforded by the specific plan require- ments should.also be adhered to and, enforced by the City. In this light, Commissioner Jose commented on recent Council discussion on imposing a time limita- tion for start-of-construction on such developments coming in under specific plans, He stated a 25 perce construction-complete within one year had been dis- cussed Prior to presenting the motions on the fTve resolutio involved in this action, it was clarified with the Ci Attorney to identify each one by title only, with the subsequent reasons and conditions, in order to save time. S Y The motion was made to recommend the Amendment to The Motion General Plan, for the reasons given below: Ayes PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTtON NO. 642, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL AN AMENDMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN (CITY COUNCJL RESOLUTtON N0.1271),FOR THE H.B. DEVELOfMENT COMPANY ON 380 ACRES LOCATED AT INTERSTATE 5 AND POINSETTIA LANE INTERCHANGE, for the following reasons: 1. The proposed uses and densities are in conformance with the existing County of San Diego General Plan for the area; Nayes 2. The proposed uses and densities will not be detri- mental to the surroundrng properttes. A motion was made to recommend to the Council adoptionYotion of a Pre-Annexation Change of Zone and Adoption of a \yes Master Plan, for the reasons given below: PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTtON NO. 643, A RESOLUTtON OF THE CARLSBAD CtTY PLANNtNG COMMlSSlON RECOMMENDtNG TO THE CITY COUNCIL A PRE-ANNEXATION CHANGE OF ZONE FROM COUNTY ZONING TO P-C (PLANNED COMMUNITY] ZONE, AI ADOPTION OF A MASTER PLAN ON PROPERTY LOCATED EAST OF INTERSTATE 5 AT POINSETTIA LANE AND BETWEEN CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND THE A.T.&S.F. RAILROAD AT POlNSETTJA LA1 for the following reasons: ? COMMISSIONERS 1. That the P-C Zone provide's the best means of devel - opment for subject property; 2. That the P-C Zone and Master Plan will not be detry- mental to the surrounding properties; 3. That the density designed on the Master Plan is. in conformance with the amendments to the General Plai for this property. ". . "_ - - ~ CITY OF -5- CARLSBAD A-motion was made to recommend to the Council a Pre- Annexation Change of Zone for three parcels of land i this development, for the reasons given below: PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO,. 644, A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDlNGTO THE CITY COUNCIL A PRE-ANNEXATION CHAN OF ZONE FROM COUNTY ZONING TO C-2 (GENERAL COMMERCbAL ON THREE PARCELS OF LAND ON THE NORTHWEST, SOUTHWEST, AND SOUTHEAST QUADRANTS OF INTERSTATE 5 AND POINSETTI LANE, for the following reasons: 1. The proposed commercial uses constitute a good us of the land; 2. The proposed commercial facilities are necessary provide normal services for the projected popula- tion in the area. A motion,was made to recommend to the Council certain Specific Plans, subject to annexation of the property on three parcels of land, for the reasons shown below and subject to the conditions as shown in Section V "Conditions", in Staff Report dated November 19,1969. PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 645, A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL SPECrFtC PLANS, SUBJ TO ANNEXATION OF PROPERTY TO THE CtTY OF CARLSBAD, ON THREE PARCELS OF LAND ON THE NORTHWEST, SOUTHWEST, AN SOUTHEAST QUADRANTS OF tNTERSTATE 5 AND POrNSETTlA LA for the following reasons: 1. The proposed commercial uses constitute a good us of the land; 2. The proposed commercial facilities are necessary populat Permit le home to the conditions imposed, per Staff Report dated November 1 1969, Section V "Conditions": PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 646, A RESOLUTION THE CITY OF CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SUBJECT TO ANNEXATION TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, FOR A MOBILE HOME PARK LOCATED AT POINSETTIA LANE BETWEEN INTERSTATE 5 AND THE A.T. AND S.F. RAILROAD, for the following reasons: prov'ide' normal services for the projected of .the area. A motion was made to grant a Conditional Use subject to annexation to the City, for a mobi park, for the reasons shown below and subject 1. The proposed mobile home park constitutes a good use of the Sand; 2. The granting of the proposed land use will not be detrimental to the public. welfare or injurious to the vicinity and zone in which the Conditional Us Permit will be granted. COMMISSIONERS otion Yes otion Yes ayes T n otion Yes ayes CITY OF CARLSBAD -6- I I I 6'. OLD BUSINESS: (a) The Chairman asked the Planning Director to report on the list of non-conforming signs in the Cit and Mr. Olinghouse stated this was not yet complete, but would be by the next regular meeting date. (b) Memorandum dated 11/20/69 from City Manager re appeal of Application for Conditi.ona1 Use Permit for Construction and Use of Small Animal Clintc, granted Dr. Henry C..Gregg by Planning Commission Resolution No. 639 Mr.'Olinghouse commented on Mr. Harry TruaxEs earlier request to review this application before the CBDAC, at their meeting on December llth, stating this request appeared to be warranted in this instance. The Chairman stated this item of business would need be continued to the meeting of December 23, 1969 to allow this review and further report, and asked the applicant, Dr. Henry C. Gregg, if this would pose some problem for him. Dr. Gregg stated he had spent consid- erable time pursuing this matter and he was prepared t3 add further on the hearing of his applfcation, but lie , would leave a decision for continuance to the CommissiDn. I ~ MR. ROY BOYER, property owner at 560 and 562 Elm Avenu and vacant lots in the vicinity of this applicatjon, stated he had originally signed a petiti,on of protest about it but he now felt this would be a deftnite im- provment for that particular area. He added he had investigated the applicant's present operations in Encin'itas and had found him to be well-thought of and the operation considered an asset in that communtty. It was decided to allow time for the CBDAC review and report back to the Commission by December 23rd, and a motion was made to continue this item of business for that reason. Mot lo Ayes (c) Commissioner Palmateer advised on recent de- velopments regarding Buena Vista Lagoon. Oceanside recently received and denied an application for zone change on some 33 acres of the East end of the Lagoon; this area lies partly in Oceanside and partly in this City and what happens there affects other parts of the Lagoon as well. Oceanside has indicated a Master Plan will be sought for this area, involving both cities, ard Commissioner Palmateer prop0sed.a letter be sent to the Council asking for a moratorium period on all City per- ,mits, applications and the like for all submerged lands of the Lagoon. This would allow.the necessary time to pursue such a Master Plan. Following a discussion of this need, a motion was made Motio to draft such a request of the City Council. The motionAyes received a unanimous voice vote approval. 7. NEW BUSINESS: (a) The Chairman stated this appeared to be a goo time to discuss a moratorium period be imposed on appli- cations for Conditional Use Permit for Mobile Home Parks, 1 COMMlSSlONERS -4 h CITY OF CARLEIAD -7- C 1 t C c 1 C C C E l 1 I t i t 1 1 < c C COMMlSSiONERS in that there have been three large such parks approv in the last several months. A thorough study is warr covering future land use of this nature. MR. ARTHUR PILANT, business manager and general manag for Mr. Harold Butler and H.B. Development Company, addressed the Commission, stating subject company is a family-owned corporation and it has never purchased property to sell to speculators. All the developing of property in H.B.'s applications is to be done by the corporati.on itself. He felt a moratorium period on mobile home park development a't this tSme would be I definite hazard to their plans. The Chairman stated H. B. Development's applications lad already received Commission approval and this dis ;ussion and proposed moratorium period applied to fut applications for mobile home parks. The Planning Director stated he would prepare the re- luested memorandum to the Council outlining these dis :ussions and his department would instigate some stud )f zoning and this use. 3. COMMITTEE REPORTS: (a) Public Utility Zone ordinance - Mr. Olinghou -eported that a field trip is planned with SDGEE, for :he purpose of further studying this zoning and he wi -eport on the results of that trip at the next meetin (b) Community Involvement Committee and Sub-Comm leeti.ngs - Mr. Olinghouse stated that in the future vritten reports covering the actions and/or activitie 'or the-se work committees will be sent. He further )riefed on the recent addition of ad hoc committees to the CIC and some reports will be forthcoming from :hese, from time to time. He commented on the last Jeneral CIC meeting, at which all the subcommittee :hairman had reported on their projects, etc. 9 .. ADJOURNMENT: The motion was made and received unanimous voice rote approval, to adjourn the meeting at 9:51 P.M. tecording 'hecretary led ! :ee lotion \yes