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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1969-12-09; Planning Commission; MinutesL c "- A. CITY OF CARLSBAD MEETING OF: CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION DATE OF MEETING: DECEMBER 9, 1969 TIME OF MEETING: 7:30 P.M., PLACE OF MEETING: CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS ROLL CALL: City Staff representatives present: Joe Spano of the Engineering Department, E. J. Olinghouse, Planning Dir tor, Stuart Wilson, City Attorney;' Councilman C. H. Heiswender was also present. :ommissioner Pal~mateer was present at 7:34 P.M. and Zommissioner Hermsen was present at 7:36 P.M. 'APPROVAL OF MINUTES: IRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: There were no Written Communications to present. lRAL COMMUNICATIONS: a) The Chairman reminded the Commission of the Count; 'lanning Congress luncheon on December 10th at the loliday Inn and asked if there were any proposals for ~im to carry to this meeting, regarding its continuancc !tc. Commissioner Little volunteered that this organi- :ation was very worthwhile and should be continued if lossible. The Chairman passed around a list of discus: on topics for the luncheon meeting. The Planning Director introduced the staff repor jated December 2, 1969, setting forth this request to install two (2) wall signs for a total sign area in ex :ess of that allowable, by 43 square feet. The Staff recommendation to deny this application and reasons fo same were also read. A wall exhibit was used to show the building, existing sign and additional signing und :onsideration. MR. FRED STALDER, President of Central Federal's San Diego main office, of 2322 Evergreen Street, San Diego 92106, was present and commented on their recent completed and recently opened branch at Plaza Camino Real. He exhibited an enlarged photo of the building a it appears now, and further c'ommented on the type of company logo signing continued around on the West face of the building which they prop0s.e. He felt the poten tial traffic from the Center itself required this lett on the West side, rather than just the Marron Road acc covered now. He also felt the .signing was neat and in good taste, and would not detract in any way. There were no other comments regarding this appl cation and the public hearing was closed at 8:57 P.M. The Commission discussion which followed centered on the.obvious and long-time need.for the City's recent s ordinance and the fact that wh1,le th.e proposed signi.ng COMMISSIONERS Present Absent Motton Ayes Absent I -i ng is .. -. CITY OF CARISBAD -2- was tasteful and neat, there did not appear to be any unusual circumstances involved requiring additional signing at this location. The motion was made to deny a Variance to permit an increase in the maximum sign area allowed, on propel located on the South Side of Marron Road and West of El Camino Real (2585 El Camino Real), for the reasons stated below: PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 647, A RESOLUTION Of THE CARLSBAD CITY PLANNING COMMISSION DENYING A VARIANl TO PERMIT AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM SIGN AREA ALLOWED, 3N PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MARRON ROAD. dEST OF EL CAMINO REAL; Reasons for denial are: (1) That there are no unusual circumstances involved which would necessitate the granting of this Variance; (2) That all signs in the general area have been ap- proved by the Planning Commission and are in con- formance with the City of Carlsbad's sign ordinance; (3) That the use would be adequately served by signs designed and constructed in conformance with thos allowed in the sign ordinance. (b) AMENDMENT TO GENERAL PLAN AND CHANGE OF ZONE AND \DOPTION OF MASTER PLAN FOR PLANNED COMMUNITY ZONE, .iscated on Kelly Drive at Park Drive - Applicant: Allen 1. Kelly & L.R. Partnership. 'The Planning Director presented a Staff Report iated December 2, 1969, covering this application to re [one approximately 47 acres from R-1-10,000 and R-A- i0,OOO to Planned Community Zone. A letter from the ap Ilicant dated November 19th, outlining the proposed ;ype of development, densities, architecture, access, ?tc. , as well as the need in tRts ci,ty for such a devel bpment was included in the Staff Report. A wall exhibi: !ntitled Exhibit A- Master Site Plan for a Planned Com- ]unity) was used to show tRe particular Items planned 'or this development, and specifically, the proposed lensity being requested (Low/Medium - 10 units per net Icre.) The staff recommendation to approve' this appli :ation was followed by reasons for approving. Mr. Spano then stated that the Engineering Dept. rould have to check any internal streets and utilities, !veri though these are not to be 'deeded and will be main iained by the developer. Inasmuch as this had not been investigated by the department, it was later agreed to make this prior approval requirement a condition of ap proval of the application. W. ALLEN KELLY, 3455 Spanish Way, approached the :ommission and stated they would come back to the Planr zommission at a later date with a Tentative Map for ap- 3roval. He discussed the darker shaded area on the ex-. libit map, as the first phase of development which Nil' be apartment dwell l'ngs under the cluster Rousing concel COMMISSIONERS Motion .y Ayes Absent I. I !. . CITY OF CARLSBAD -3- Commissioner P,almateer commented on the uniqueness for Carlsbad of this new concept of land use in apartment- type dwellings; further,. he felt the intentions of the developer as set forth in his letter of November 19th should be considered as honorable-in viewing this appl cation. There were other comments on the potential problem of providing schools for the future number of children in this development area. While it was agree the P-C Zone did afford the City the best control of such developments, there was concern at the number of such applicat-ions and the number of mobile home park applications coming into the City in recent months. The 'developer commented on the real need in the City for low to medium housing for those persons now living here who cannot find housing within their income range The densities proposed were questioned and Mr. Oling- house gave a breakdown of the density allowed under th present zoning and, the density proposed under P-C Zon which worked out to approximately 176 units less for t total net acreage. The ingress/egress plans for the future were questioned and the developer utilized the Exhibit to indicate a future Park Drive alignment tyin into El Camino Real. He further showed how this devel opment would not "landlock" itself nor the adjacent property owners. The public utilities systems propose were discussed and it was again stated that the City Engineer would have to approve these internal Systems, whether privately owned or deeded to the City as ' pub1 ic systems.. police protection, access to the water system, and the like, were commented on and it was pointed out these type things would be covered in the Tentative Mqp proposal at a later date, And, it was fur.ther pointed out that the granting of this zone change did not chqn the City requirements for its further development as a subdivision, because of the Specific Plan and Tentativ Map being required to ga'in approval of both the Commis and 'the Counci 1. .. A motion was then made to recommend this application f Amendment to the General Plan, and Change of Zone and Adoption of a Master Plan to the City Council, for the reasons shown below: PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 648, A RESOLUTION 0 THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD RECOM DING TO THE CITY COUNCIL AN AMENDMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN (CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION N0.1271), FOR PROPERTY OWNED BY ALLAN 0. KELLY AND L.R. PARTNERSHIP, CONTAIN1 APPROXIMATELY 47 ACRES LOCATED SOUTH OF EL CAMINO REAL AND EAST OF THE SOUTHERLY TERMINUS OF KELLY DRIVE, identified by title only and further reading waived; Amendment is as follows and for reasons given: "The Carlsbad General Plan is hereby amended to adopt said Exhibit A, to permit a maximum of ten (10) dwellings units per net acre instead of the seven (7) units per net acre presently permitted under Low Density in the Land Use Element of the General Plan." Reasons: (1)Th the proposed density will be similar to the total dens for the parcel as shown in The General Plan; (2) That the proposed densities will not be detrimental to sur- rounding properties. And , COMMISSIONERS \ ! ? ion lotion \yes loes \bsent IN- I ,Y .. - 4 CITY OF CARLSBAD -4- COMMISSIONERS PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 649, A RESOLUTION OF THE CARLSBAD CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL A CHANGE OF ZONE FROM R-1-10,OOO AND R-A-10,000 TO P-C (PLANNED COMMUNITY) ZONE, AND ADOPTION OF A MASTER PLAN, ON PRO.PERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF EL CAMINO REAL AND EAST OF THE SOUTHERLY TERMINUS OF KELLY DRIVE, identified by title only and further reading waived; Reasons for such recommendation: (1)Tk the P-C Zone provides the best means of development for subject property; (2) That the P-C Zone and Master Plan will not be detrimenta1,to the surrounding proper (3) That the.density designed on the Master Plan is ir conformance with the proposed amendments to the Genera Plan for this property; (4)That the Specific Plans to be submitted at a later date, shall reflect the loca- tions of all proposed structures, open space areas, ar specifications of residential road systems and private utility systems, and these shall be approved by the City Engineer prior to actual construction; the Tentat ive Map will designate the tentative configurations of all lots to be created. OLD BUSINESS: (a) Oral Report on Buena Vista Lagoon project - The Plann-ing Director commented on the Commission's letter of request to the Council for a 90-day moratorium on all City permits for the Buena Vista Lagoon lands. He stated they did not enact a moratorium period, but referred it to the Planning Dept. for study and contac with Oceanside Planning Dept. He has been in contact with Mr. Bagley of that City and will obtain a copy of their resolution effecting a moratorium as acted upon by their Council. (b) ?ne Lomm1ss1opT had been supplied with a list of non-conforming signs in the City from the Building Dept., and Mr. Olinghouse stated the Building Inspecto had further to add in this regard and that his depart- ment had conducted field inspections regarding non- conforming signs. He commented on the differences in- volved in non-conforming signs which have a moratorium period, illegal signs, and non-conforming ones of a no permanent type. Sign-Ordinance - Apparently, t.he Commission only wants those signs which are illegal or non-conformi.ng since the enactmen of the ordinance in early 1969, and the Planning Direc tor was asked to supply only this information at the next regular meeting. He stated he will request same from the Building Department,. . Amendment to Ordinance 9060, Article 14 re Servic &:itions and Auto-Related Uses -. Continued - Mr. Oling house stated a final draft is ready for review by the Commission and scheduling a public- hearing in early January 1970. NEW BUSINESS: (a) Tentative Plan for a Primary Open Space System - Mr. Olinqhouse briefed a study reDort handed out at th meeting iith attached open space kystem sample exhibit This had been prepared for the Park & Recreation Com- mission, but he wished the Commission to be aware of t ies; - '. ,. , >' L c m - CITY OF CARLSBAD -5- (a) Continued this new concept as well. Utilization of this Primar 1pen.Space System and its secondary systems within, vould act as a deterrant to urban. sprawl, concentrate In the community identity, and preserves and uses the latural amenities of a community. (b) Commissioner Little commented on past use of a 'checklist" entitled "Things a Planning Commissioner Should Consider", which he felt had been very helpful in reviewing the various aspects ,of business before t :ommission. He asked that the files be searched to locate this list and copies made available or, a new 2nd comprehensive checklist might be prepared by the lepartment. ZOMMITTEE REPORTS: [a) Public Utility Zone - A draft will be presented nt the adjourned meeting, setting forth certain chang that have been incorporated in recent weeks. [b) CIC Report - Mr. Olinghouse asked for an altern io serve for E. H. Jose on this newly formed group, b ;he meeting day and time of the 3rd Wednesday in each nonth was not agreeable and no alternate is available it this time. \DJOURNMENT: By proper motion, the meeting was adjourned to londay, December 15, 1969 at 7:30 P.M. in the City's ingin'eering Conference Room; this received voice vote hpproval. The purpose of discussions at the adjourned meet ing is for the various incomplete admendments pending Iefore the Commission, land use studies, and other li items which are critical for the Planning Department ind the Commissioners at this time. tespectfully submitted, Iecording/Sek'iretary COMMISSIONERS 2 lotion \yes \bsent