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MINUTES OF MEETING: PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE OF MEETING: SEPTEMBER 22, 1970
TIME OF MEETING: 7:30 P.M.
PLACE OF MEETING: CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
ROLL .CALL:
City 'staff representatives present: Stuart Wilson,
E. J. Olinghouse, R. A. Johnston, J. E. Spano.
(Commissioner Gullett was present at 7:32 P.M.)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
(a) The minutes of the meeting of August 25, 1970 were approved as. submitted and minutes of the meeting of
September 8, -1970 were also approved, as corrected.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
(a) The League of California Cities Conference in San
Diego on October 25th thru 28th was discussed and the
Chai-rman stated it was his understanding no firm decis
ion had yet been made on the number of Commissioners
who would be authorized to at.&end, .but he understood
that number was now for the chairman plus two others
members. Upon polling the members, it was determined
that Commissioners Hermsen, Forman, Jose and possibly
Dewhurst would like to attend. These will be contacte
by October 1st for confirming reservations with the
City Clerk's office.
(Commissioner Gullett was present at this time, 7:32P.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
(a) The Chairman stated he wished to again request tha
any member who was aware he would be unable to attend
a meeting, should call either himself or the Planning
Department to so advise prior to meeting time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
(a) CONTINUED - RECLASSIFICATION OF ZONE - To consider
change of zone from R-1-15,000 to R-3 Zone, located on
Easterly side of Park Drive between Cove and Marina
Drives; Applicant/Owner: EARCO/Grace Harrison.
A staff report dated 9/01/70 was read in .full by M
Johnston, who- also referred to a wall projection depic
ting subject property, the general area, adjacent zoni
and adjacent property owners. The staff recommendatio
to deny this application was covered, as well as the
fact that if approved, a specific plan whould be 2equi
of the developer, for consideration by the Commission.
The secretary also read a letter to the Commission fro
EARCO, dated 9/04/70, outlining those factors they fel
supported their application for rezone to R-3 Zone.
The chairman cailed for those in the audience to speak
in favor of the request.
MR. L. E. LIDDLE, 555 Grand Avenue, realtor and
representative for subject application, referred to th
staff report just read, particularly the three reasons recommending denial. He felt the General Plan of the Cit'y need not be a "bible" for future .development of
the Cl'ty, but should be updated and condi'tions change
in an area. He asked that the statements contained in
the letter,from EARCO be considered closely, as it ap-
plied to the situation existing very well.
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MR. ROBERT D. GARLAND, 1288 Knowles Avenue, stated
the topography of this subject property supported the
comments of Mr. Liddle, in that it was a prime locatio
for apartments, but not at a density of seven(7) units
per acre. He felt this density factor was economically impossible at this time.
MR. DICK CAVALIER, Secretary of the Bristol Cove
Property Owner's Association, stated he was not speaki
in Qpositiop of this application, but wanted to know
what type of ..architecture was planned by the developex
because the Bristol Cove developer had considerable
money and effort in that architectural concept and he
hoped the City would protect the standards already sei
as a future safeguard for standards of development fol
the whole Lagoon area.
There were none to speak in opposition to this re-
quest and public hearing was closed at 7:47 P.M. .
The Commission discussion followed, covering the
.particular parcel in question, the natural land limiti
tions and requirements of the general area for good
planning. It was stated that the City's duty to pro-
ject good planning for this unique area was considere(
of prime iaportance, although the economic problems 01
developers was recognized. The P-C zoned development:
in the same general area were commented on and it was
felt these reflected a higher use for the land, with
adequate controls by the City as to development. It
also was generally agreed the density proposed was toc
high for the area and the R-3 zoning was not compatib.
to adjacent or future uses.
The motion was duly made to deny this application
for change of zone to R-3, for the reasons stipulated
in staff report of 9/01/70.
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTTON N0.677 - A RESOLUTION
OF THE CARLSBAD CITY PLANNING" COMMISSION DENYING A
CHANGE OF ZONE FROM R-1-15,000 TO R-3 (Residential-
Multiple) ZONE ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE Oi
PARK DRIVE, BETWEEN COVE AND MARINA DRIVES, for the
following reasons, further reading being waived:
(1) Subject application is not in conformance with thc
City of Carlsbad's General Plan. (2) Requested reclas: tion is not in conformance with the Housing Element 0.
the General Plan. (3) Densities permitted fn the R-3
Zone far exceed those prescribed in the General Plan.
(b) RECLASSIFICATION OF ZONE - To- consider change of
zone from R-1, R-2 and R-3 to RD-M Zone, for an area
located and generally bounded by Tamarack Ave, Aqua
Hedionda Lagoon, 2i.T.LS.F. Railroad, and Carlsbad Blv(
as initiated by Planning Commission Resolution of In-
tention No. 74.
The staff report dated 9/14/70 was read in full b~
Mr. Johnston, who referred to a wall exhibit entitled
"Ownership Map - Garfield Zone Change", which showed
those properties desiring subject rezoning to RD-M ZOI
outlined in RED. The staff's recommendatfon to appro1
subject change of zone was covered and appropriate
reasons were presented. Further history and explana-
tion of the situation which exists in this area were also covered in the report.
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The chairman called for a representative to speak
for those in the audience who were in favor of this
application.
MR. JAMES E. O'NEAL, 804 Third Street, Oceanside,
attorney/representative for the original applicants in
this matter, stated he represented a majority of those
present in favor of subject request. He outlined those
factors which he felt justified a request for RD-M zon
in this are,a, i.e., tax burden, inability to develop
under present.. zoning, etc. Also, he felt the City"s
continued control under this new density type zone was
futther reason for approval of same.
There being no others to speak in favor, the chair
man called for those in opposition to speak.
MR. MARSHALL ISLE, Carlsbad, stated he was opposed
in that the manner used by petitioners to obtain. other
who desired rezohing had exerted too much pressure and
he stated not as many would have agreed to this if thi
pressure had not been evident.
The chairman called for a show of hands as to thos
present in favor or in opposition of this zone change
and the vote was obviously 'unanimous in favor, with on
one dissenting. A brief discussion of the past effort
by the department and the Commission regarding this
zone change for the last year followed, with the motio
then made to approve subject application and recommend
same to the City Council for final hearing and amend-
ment of the ordinance (No. 9060).
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 665 - A RESOLUTION
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF A CHANGE
OF ZONE FROM R-1, R-2 AND R-3 TO RD-MlRESIDENTIAL DENS
MULTIPLE) ZONE, ON PROPERTY BETWEEN TAMARACK AVENUE,AGU
HEDIONDA LAGOON, A.T.&S.F. RAILROAD AND CARLSBAD BOULE
with further reading waived, and approved for the foil
ing reasons: (1) The reclassification as proposed, is
in conformance with the General Plan of the City of
Carlsbad; (2) The RD-M Zone as proposed provides for
the upgrading of public improvements to meet the needs
of increased density; (3) The proposed zone change is
in the best interests of the City of Carlsbad; (4) It
is apparent good use of the land.
(C) AMENDMENT TO LAND USE ELEMENT OF GENERAL PLAN - La
Use Amendment No. 1 - to consider adoption and recomme
tion to Council, for areas located West of A.T.&S.F. Railroad, between Buena Vista Lagoon and Aqua Hedionda
Lagoon, and as initiated by Planning Commission Resolu
of Intention No. 71.
There was no written staff report on this item at
this time, but the Planning Director discussed the lan
use amendment map in question, the general plan limita
for the area (which are not complete in that no densit
exists in some cases), and the department"s reasoning
in setting these zon'ing requirements were given. The
future planning for"the development of this area is th
primary consideration here. Mr. Olinghouse stated he
would answer any questions from the Commission that
might remain.
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MR. JAMES O'NEAL, speaker in the previous public
hearing matter, also spoke in favor of the Land Use
Amendment for this area, as it generally will affect th
area's orderly development in line with the General
Plan recommendations for residential-multiple densities
There were none in the audience to speak in opposition
of this item, and the public hearing was closed at 8:15 IP"* Commission discussion followed and it was general1
agreed this Land Use Amendment tied in with the preceed
rezoning application, both of which have been before th
Commission for many months for study and resulted in th
present action. Several Commissioners recommended ap-
proval, in line with the department's density recommend
tions and the motion was then made to recommend same to
the City Council, for an amendment to the Land Use Ele-
ment of the General Plan, for the reasons indicated bel
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION N0.676 - A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD
RECOMMENDING TO CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF LAND USE AMEND
MENT ND. 1, AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE ELEMENT OF THE
GENERAL PLAN, further reading being waived; the reasons
for such recommendation are:. (1) This amendment is
necessary to implement current City planning for future
development of subject area; (2) This amendment is in
line with the General Plan recommendations for subject
area.
(d) TENTATIVE MAP -*To consider Tentative Parcel Map
for approval, at a location off Ponto Drive, East of
Carlsbad Blvd., and West of A.T.&S.F. Railroad; Applica
Paul Ivi cevi c
Mr. Johnston read the staff report dated 9/17/70
and referred to a wall slide of subject parcel, which
also showed the parcel size, adjacent ownerships, zonin
etc. The technical report pres,ented the background for
this request and the recommendatzon was to deny subject
equsst and ask the Council for an interim ordinance of
0 days to allow no further development plans in the po
rea, until the staff could study the problem situation
hat exist there and make further recommendations, perh
o the extent of utilizing certain HUD program applicat
or this area's planning and development. Non-conforma
ith City building standards and requirements of future
evelopment were cited and it was felt to allow this
resent application, would only add to an already sub-
tandard situation there. Conditions of approval, if
his were the case, were itemized, as required by City
tandards and the City Engineer. There was no correspo
ence received and the chairman called for those in the
udience who were there to speak in favor or in opposit
MR. HARRY TRUAX, engineer and representative of th
pplicant, of E. Brian Smith Engineers, 2656 State Strg
tated he was very much in conflict with the staff re- ort's presentatiion of the facts, the reasons for staf
ecommendation to deny, and several of the conditions 0
pproval. He approached these individually, as follows
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Reason #1 of the staff report was incorrect and Mr. Tru cited Ordinance No. 9050, Section 209 regarding newly
crea,ted parcels fronting on dedicated streets, which he
said was not specifically that restrictive. Reason #2
which states subject lot split should not be allowed as
it would add to an already blighted condition for this
area, was cited as unfair, in that fencing and construc
tion of a building on land that is now unused and weed
overed, should not be considered detrimental. Reason
3 states depial of subject application would not deprij
he use of subject property, but Mr. Truax states this
s not so because a building permit cannot be obtained
ithout the lot split which is being sought in this ap-
lication.
The conditions of approval as required by City sta;
ards or the City Engineer, were discussed as to the im
ossibility or legality of same being imposed on one
roperty owner, i.e., dedication of 60-ft. private road
asement to the public for street purposes, providing 0.
master plan for streets for the Ponto area, construct.
f me-half width subdivision improvements in front of
ubdivided property, construction of 8-inch waterline fl
he entire length of the new street, providing of a
aster plan for sewerage for the Ponto area. Mr. Truax
tated these conditions were'not possible for his clien
s in some cases, he did not have the right to effect
hese improv.ements. for the entire area. Mr. Truax stat
he City needs to consider the servicing of the Ponto
rea and help the property owners there work out their
evelopment problems as they do have the right to devel(
ithin the City, as cited under Section 209 of the sub-
ivision Prdinance. 61e felt the staff report's recommen
deny this application and request for a moritorium c
velopment in Ponto was unfair and was an attempt to
evade the question of City services to the area.
MR. BARTON, property owner in the Ponto area, stat e felt the on1 y thing wrong with the "Zoning this are
nnexed to the City under, was those parcels with poor
esidential uses on this type zoning. He cited certail;
uses in the area which he felt were unsightly and added
o deteriorating the whole area. He stated he also had
lans to build on his 'property and he felt he should be
llowed to do SO under the current industrial zoning, a
e had been paying taxes to the City since annexation a
rior to that, to the County, for the past twenty years
here weee no others in the audience to speak in favor
r opposition and the public hearing was closed at 8:4C
The Commission discussion followed and Commission Dewhurst asked Mr. Truax about the 'masonry constructio
stated the owner 'had obtained a building permit for a
fence- Inasmuch as several questions had been raised
as to the providing of water, sewers, electricity, and
Provide Same and by whom was not clear, it was decided this application should be, continued and further repor
going On at subject property and Mr. Truax
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was requested from the Engineering and Planning Depart.
rnents on ,the matter. Mr. Truax stated that an applicai
hearing could not be legally continued without the per.
nission of the owner/applicant, and he felt this shoulc
be carried over for only two (2) weeks, to the next
regular meeting on October 13, 1970. Mr. Olinghouse
stated he would coordinate the necessary staff discuss.
in order to bring a report back at the next meeting.
The motion was subsequently made to continue this
public hearing to October 13, 1970, for further report
from the staff.
NEW BUSINESS:
(a) Discussion of proposed ordinance amendment re Park.
of Vehicles in Residential Zones - per request of City
Attorney.
Mr. Wilson briefed the Commission on the reasons fo.
such proposed amendment and stated at this time he was
asking for suggestions as to the restrictions to be
worked into this amendment. Considerable discussion
was given and Mr. Wilson was asked to obtain whatever
previous data or like ardinances might be available frl
other cities who had been faced with a like problem.
stated such ordinances were not common and this would .
somewhat of. a "pioneering" effort for the City. He al,
recognized the difficulty in forming requirements, but
asked that the Commissioners study the draft form he
had worked up as to additional vehicle parking, sideya
parking of campers, boa6 etc.
The Chairman stated a "roundtable" discussion, or
work committee, was warranted at this time, 'and they
could either adjourn to a date prior to the October 1
meeting, or set a date for a 3-man work committe to
meet in the. evening and get .started on this item. Mr.
Wilson was asked to make available any helpful data on
this matter, and the following members will comprise a
work committee to draft recommendations to the Council
on a proposed vehicle parking amendment: Commissioner
Hermsen, Forman and Jose, with Commissioner Little as
an alternate. The afternoon of Wednesday, October 7th
at 4:OO P.M. at the City Hall Conference Room was agre
upon and theae will be contacted as a reminder prior t
this meeting.
(b) Resdlulion of Intention No.75 - To consider settin
public hearing date of October 13, 1970 to consider a
Specific Plan regulating land uses on Thunderbird Ranc
4539 El Camino Real.
Mr. Johnston briefed the intended purpose and reas
for requiring a specific plan in this instance, in tha
there is an application in the department for rezoning
to R-T(Residentia1-Tourist) with a Conditional Use Per
for a guest ranch at the subject location. The depart
desires to assure development for the proposed use and a specific plan-requirement would. do this,. at the same
tJme the appIfcak$on is set for public he'ari'ng at CcZe
next meeting on October 13th.
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The parcel in question, its proximity to P-C uses
recently approved by the City, the open space involvec
the type of development proposed, etc., were discussec
There were no more questions regarding this resolutior
of intention and the motion was duly made to set publi
hearing for a specific plan, together with applicatior
for rezoning to R-T and Conditional Use Permit, for tl
meeting of October 13, 1970. Mr. Johnston stated thes
would be advertized together as required by law.
OLD BUSINESS:.
(a) 'Continued' Items Attachment - Planning Direc
reports: Mr. Olinghouse stated there were no changes
to the continued items list, unless the Commission hac
any questions: Chairman Jose commented that item 70.;
for the Garrield Area Change of Zone and Land Use
Element amendment could be removed after tonite's heal
Item 70.22 to be added, is a result of Mr. Wilsonfs
proposed Vehicle Parking amendment, which will go to i
work commi t tee.
COMMITTEE REPORTS:
(a) Mr. Olinghouse commented on the last meeting of tI
Environmental Pollution Commission , which was formed
in mid-summer. He stated they hope to function very
closely with Planning Commission related activities ir
the future, as there are naturally many items of commc
interest. He added this Commission will serve as
"advisory" to the C-ity Council.
(b) Chairman Jose asked the Commission to consider a
joint City Council/Planning Commission discussion ses:
which would be an informal meeting to discuss City
goals and business items of mutual interest. He knew
of this type meeting in other cities, which it was fei
had hen of mutual benefit to both groups. After dis-
cussion of the purpose and goals of such a meeting, ii
was asked that the Commission"'keep this in mind and
consider items for such an agenda.
ADJOURNMENT:
The motion was properly made and seconded, and the
meeting was adjourned at 9:25 P.M., by voice vote ap-
proval.
RespectfulJy submitted,
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