HomeMy WebLinkAbout1971-01-26; Planning Commission; MinutesCITY OF CNLSBAD
MINUTES OF MEETING: Planning Commission
DATE OF MEETING: January 26, 1971.
TIME OF MEETING: '7:30 P.M.
PLACE OF MEETING: City Council Chambers I
ROLL CALL:
City staff present: E. J. Olinghouse, Stuart Wilson,
3. E. Spano, J. B. Arnold, R. A. Johnston and R. S.
Osburn.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes of the meetin.9 of Ja.
ary 12, 1971 were approval as submitted by a proper
motion receiving voice vote approval.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
None.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
(b) Variance - To consider Reduction in Number of
Off-street Parking Spaces required for certain uses in
Commercial Building: Applicants: D. C. Soto/P. D. Agu
A memorandum dated 1/26/71 was handed the Com-
mission stating that letters from 34 downtown business
men and a map plotting their locations had been receiv
in the department, favoring subject application for
reduction in required parking on State Street. Also,
that due to the staff report's recommendation to deny
this application, it was suggested referring same to.
the CBDAC for their review and report back to the Com-
mission following their next meeting on February 11.
This would then necessitate continuing public hearing
on this matter to the meeting of 2/23/71.
There was discussion on referring this matter to
the other commission and it was pointed out this group
had long been concerned with the off-street parking
situation in the downtown area. It was felt their rep
would be helpful in assisting the Commission's decisio
on the matter and the motion was made to continue to
the meeting of February 23 to allow time for- the furth
report which will be requested by che department.
(c) Specific Plan and Tentative Mae - To consider
Unit-A of Loma' Laguna, a Planned Community for 44 Unit
Applicant: Becrah, Inc., Owner: Allan 0. Kelly, locate
South of El. Camino and East of the Southerly terminus
of Kelly Drive.
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Correspondence from Mr. H. M. Baumgartner of Bee
Cee Company (Becrah,Inc., applicants) and dated 1/22/71
was read by the secretary, indicating they desired a
continuance- of .two(2) weeks to. the meeting of 2/ 91/71
on this matter. The motion followed and was uanimousl
approved to continue the hearing 'on the Specific Plan
and Tentative Map for Loma Laguna, Unit-A to 2/09/71.
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(a) Specific Plan - To Amend Ord.#9182(September 1965
which adopted a Site Study, to consider development of
Safeway Stores market, Thrifty Drugstore, and satellite
shopslocated on South side of Tamarack Ave, between I-5
and Adams Street; Applicant: Daytom Enterprises, Inc.
Chairman Little stated he had received calls fron
numerous citizens and. there appeared some confusion
existed in that a reclassification of zone was thought
to be involved, which he clarified was not the case in
that the commercial zoning was set in 1965 and was al-
ready campatible to the present development proposal.
Mr. Johnston read the staff report of 1/15/71 in
full, referring to two(2) wall exhibits depicting the
formerly approved plan(9/21/65) and the present one
before the Cammission at this time, involving a Safeway
Stores market, Thrifty Drugstore and satel.lite shops.
The technical report pointed out the current zoning is
in conformance with the General Plan and is classified
"Neighborhood Shopping Center." The staff recommendati
was to approve this plan and amend the former Ord. #91S
2nd the reasons and conditions of approval wwre all rea
It should be noted that- the satellite- shop designated a
"D" on the exhibit A is recommended deleted by staff, i
that it is felt this would intensify the commercial use
and the traffic patterns off Tamarack Avenue. Questipn
from the Commission were entertained and satisfied by
Mr. Johns ton.
MR. THOMAS F. HINES, SR., President of Daytom
Enterprises (applicants) was present and stated that
yenerally the staff recommendations, reasons and condit
were acceptable. However, there was reservafion. about
withdrawal of the shop designated 'ID" . If approval of
the total specific plan hinged on deletion of this. shop
they were agreeable in that case. Also, Safeway Stores
was opposed to the condition regarding wall signs only
€or the center and desired a freestanding, pylon sign
which could be prepared and placed in such a way as to
be tasteful. Also, Safeway Stores has indicated they
have used so-called "ornamental" lighting in. other loca
tions and it has .received complaints in that it doesn't
sfford adequate parking lot lighting. It is hoped this
zan be worked out with staff. Mr. Hines stated the
location of the driveways on the Tamarack Avenue side
nay need to be moved Westerly and and he asked if staff
Zould handle this later without further Commission hear
3n the matter.
MR. HARRY TRUAX, 4125 Harbor Drive, wished to
reiterate on previous comments he has made as to the re
Tuirement of a Parcel Map when no, division of land is
involved, as this is a condition of approval of this
3evelopment and no lot split is involved. According to
Yr. Truax the City has no right to impose such conditio
2nd thereby set a precedent for future developers to
:omply also, when the State Law is clear in this regard
2.nd the City has no ordinance passed allowing such a
requirement. After additional discussion, Mr. Hines
rolunteered that he was agreeable in this case and a
?arcel map would be provided the City Engineering Dept.
A question from the audience asked how deep the
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Mr. Johnston stated there would be a IO-ft wide planter
strip. Mr. Spano was asked if relocation of the Tamara
driveway would affect freeway off-ramp traffic and he
stated they could be moved Westerly would affecting eit
this or the Tamarack Ave traffic. It was asked whether
a traffic pattern survey had been conducted re the ingr
egress for the center, particularly as regards trucks
at the Safeway markeb location. Mr. Johnston stated Mr
Hines has developed many of this type shopping. center
and he feels adequate room has been allowed for the
necessary traffic of the center.
Mr. Johnston af.firmed Tamarack Avenue will be a
40-ft. wide right of way after the 8 ft. dedication re-
quired of the developer. After consideration, it was
generally agreed the Tamarack driveway should be reloca
ted Westerly and thereby perhaps- avoid installation of
traffic light and potentially -dangerous traffic situati
Mr. Jose asked for definite clarification regardi
the past problem on parcel map requirement per some of
the staff report Conditions of Approval in recent publi
hearing matters. The City Attorney stated it was true
a parcel map was a Stake Law requirement where a divisi
of land was involved, but the City Engineer had every
right to request same if the felt, a definite benefit to
the City was gained by such a map. Therefore, it can b
a staff requirement of a developer if deemed necessary
to a particular situation.
Mr. Hines stated he wished to clarify that he was
in agreement generally with Mr. Truax's position on
parcel maps: however, in this case a parcel #map will be
forthcaming and he agreed with the city Engineer. it was
a proper requirement.
Mr. Truax said he also wished the City Engineerfs
being able to require such maps to be cleared up, and
following additional discussion it was decided this
should be discussed between Mr. Truax, the Attorney and
staff to resolve these differences in opinion. Also, M
Truax had asked this item be deleted from the condition
of approval and the City Attorney stated this was no.t
necessary in that the developer agreed in this case.
It was asked by the Commission if they would be
viewing additional details on this proposed development
and specifically,. will a liquor store be allowed in the
satellite shops. Mr. Johnston said a liquor store was
an allowed use under the C-1 zoning. Mr. Johnston also
stated Mr. Hines has met with the R-3 property owner to
the south of thi,s property and he understands the South
property line fence or wall is to be worked out between
them (6-ft..high.) Also, the Planning Department will
be responsible for approval of the architectural design
as was normal in these cases,unle$s the Commission wish
to approve on this when it came up. He felt the develo
was assuring a style of architecture compatible with
adjacent uses, such as tile roofs utilized in apartment
nearby.
There remained problems on Item 4 of Section 4, r
only wall signs being allowed in this particular type
(Neighborhood Commercial) use, in ihat Mr. Hines had
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The Chairman stated he did not feel a pylon, freestandi
sign s%lould be necessary in that the Safeway store is
a welcome addition at this location and it should not
be necessary in such a neighborhood center unless they
were attempting to solici~t business from the freeway.
There was general agreement with this based on previous
research on the subject of signing in different. areas
and for various uses.
Chairman Little asked that the Engineering and
Planning Departments continue to seek the best possible
traffic pattern for the streets involved and the propos
center's land use.
The motion was properly made to recommend amendme
of this ordinance(No.9182) and subject Specific Plan tc
the City Council, for the reasons given below and based
on compliance with all conditions specified is Staff
Report of 1/15/71, with additional Condition #11 added,
also shown below.
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION N0.687 - A Resolution
recommending to the City Council amendment of Ord.#9185
(dated 9/21/65, adopting Site Study) and approval of
Specific Plan for development of a Safeway Stores marke
a Thrifty Drugstore and satellite shops, with further
reading waived; keason: 1. The Specific Plan Amendment
is in the best interest of the City of Carlsbad. 2. Th
proposed uses are in conformance with existing zoning
snd The General Plan. Condition No. 11 (Section IV) :
The Westerly driveway approach on Tamarack Avenue shell
be relocated in a Westerly direction, in compliance wit
staff recommendations. .
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NEW BUSINESS:
Bone.
3LD BUSINESS:
(a) RESOLUTION OF INTENTION N0.77 - To consider setti
public hearing date for Public Utility(P-U)Zone, for
February 23, 1971:
Mr. Johnston stated the Draft #5(November 1970)
as last seen by the Commiss.ion and as a resuit of the
Work Committee's recommendations, had been transmitted
to the Commission after finally receiving approval fron
the utility. company. There appeared no more questions
in this behalf and the motion was made to set public
hearing date as recommended and as will be advertised.
RESOLUTION OF INTENTION NO. 77- A Resolution of the
Planning Commission of the City of Carlsbad declaring i
intent to hold a Public Hearing to Consider recommendin
to Council an amendment to Ordinance No. 9060, to creat
a Public Utility(P-U) Zone, with further reading waived
(b) 'Continued' Items Attachment-Plahning. Director reports:
70.3 Buena Vista Lagoon Study Project: It was request
this item be returned'to this listing, for report from
time to time as applicable.
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70.11 . Problem Area Zoning Study: Mr. Olinghouse repor
that CIC has been waiting for plans from property ownel
in the area which apparently are not developing at this
time. He will report if this becomes active again.
70.21 Review of Harbor Report: It was clarified this
item had been added at requested of Commissioner Little
Zast year, due to increased interests in Lagoon develol
nent , adjacent properties, etc. Mr. Olinghouse now
stated the Council had never adopted the Harbor Report
(1965) and he..did not see how the department could
recommend at this late date as to the feasibility of tl:
report, except perhaps as an amendment to the General
Plan. Mr. Arnold stated the City's 701 Program was con-
zerned with development of waterways in and around the
Zity, and perhaps this was an item that could be incl uC
in the 701 work.
70.22 Nuisance Ordinance: Mr. Olinghouse. asked that
'he worfc committee (Commissioners Hermsen, Forman and
2ominguez) meet with him immediately following this me&
ing to review some material he wished to discuss on thi
natter. This was agreeable and as a result a work meeti
vas called for Thursday, February 4 at 2:30PM with the
?lanning Director.
70.23 Architectural Controls/Review-Board: Mr. Oling-
louse asked that the Commission select a work committ'ee
,f at least 3 members, if they.wished to get going on
'his item now that the response from outside cities wez
In. The Chairman stated this appeared t.o be a very *
lecessary thing for the.Commission tobegin work on and
isked for volunteers, of which Commissioners Dewhurst,
lominguez and Palmateer agreed, with Mr. He2msen as an
ilternate. Material for review by these will be'forwar
~y the department.
IDJOURNMENT: The motion was duly made and agreed by
roice vo&e approval to adjourn the meeting at 8:38 P.M.
lespectfully submitted, n
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