HomeMy WebLinkAbout1971-02-23; Planning Commission; MinutesCITY OF CARLSBAD COMMISSIONERS
MINUTES OF MEETING: PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE OF MEETING: FEBRUARY' 23, 1971
TIME OF MEETING: . . 7:30 P.M.
PLACE OF MEETING: CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
ROLL CALL:
City staff members: R. A. Johnston, E. J. Olinghouse,
Alfred Moe (Interim City Attorney), J. E. Spano# J- B= Arnold. .
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The minutes of regular meeting of February 9, 1971 were
approved, as corrected, by unanimous voice vote approvc
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS : None
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
(a) CONTINUED - VARIANCE - To consider Reduction in
number of offstreet parking spaces required for c'ertair
uses within Commercia'l Building; Applicant/Owner: Danie
C. Soto, Peter D. Aguilar, located at 2943 State Street
Mr. Johnston read the staff report of 1/18/71,
covering location of subject new commercial building,
numbe-r of parking spaces proposed (9). by owner and plal:
to relocate a beer bar operation from State Street, int
the new building, with such use requiring some 23 off-
street parking spaces, while only' 9 are planned for the entire building regardless of what is required for th-e
remainder of the building when. rented or leased. The
staff recommendation to deny such variance request, the
reasons for such and, conditions of appr.ova1 if such' wa the case, were also read.
The question of the validity of such aiplication a
a Variance was questioned immediately by Commissioner
Jose, in that the building permit had been issued; the
building itself is nearly finished, and it appeared thi
was coming to the Commission for decision "after the
fact." The City Attorney stated the owner's legal couz
had contacted him and he in turn, had given an opinion
that based on State law requirements for what does con-
stitute a legal Variance application and, the'City fs
ordinance, it was improper for the Commission to act ox such variance application at this t'ime. He continued
to explain what the term "Variance" shall mean accordir
to law and further, that such is not the case in this-
request. Also, the City's zoning ordinance clearly st6
the beer bar use shall have a certain number of parking
spaces and in his opinion, if the Commission approves
this variance, it would be in effect like "spot zoning,
MR. NICK SAUER,attorneyfor Messrs. Soto and Aguils
and representative in this matter, affirmed the convers tion and opinion referenced by Ci.ty Attorney above. He
wished to note, however, that the former city attorney
had suggested to himself and Mr. Harry Truax some time ago, that this petition be filed. Re also cited one cas
in the past where offstreet parking. reduction was in-
voled and subsequently approved by the Commission. He
continued to outline what changes were proposed involvi the new commercial location, the beer bar's hours of og
eration, peak hours of business, and other details. He
also read his letter and 34 downtown business signers
vho posed no opposition to subject reduction, including
veryone on both sides of State Street in this block,
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with one exception only. The taking of this matter to
the c~.~AC.for review and report and their subsequent
recommendation to approve said reduction with Mr. Aguil
paying $100.00 for each space less than required by
ordinance into a downtown parking district, upon demand
for same. He stated Mr. Aguilar was agreeable to this
request. He concluded by asking for affirmative actior;
by the Commission in this matter.
Commissioner Jose (who also serves on CBDAC and ha
opposed this application by written record to this body
stated another CBDAC commissioner had also opposed this
approval. He also clarified his action on this commissi
in this regard, for the information of the Planning Con mission. The secretary than introduced the requested
report from CBDAC, affirming statements already made by
Mr. Sauer, in a memorandum dated 2/18/71 and as a resul
of their 2/11/71 monthly meeting'. Their reasons for SUC
request for favorable consideration by the Commission
were also noted.
MR. HARRY TRUAX, 2656 State Street, wished to make
a point regarding the CBDAC~S minutes which he stated
were in error and he proceeded to clarify on this, as
well as comment on the two(2) opposing members from
CBDAC. He commented on that body's past efforts for a
legal downtown parking district to be funded for the
downtown area. He also felt favorable consideration of
this request was warranted.
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MR. CLAUDE HELTON, 2829 State Street, also wishad
to make the same correction to CBDAC'S 'minutes as men-
tioned above and, he too cited many years' efforts to update the downtown business district and hip opinion
this new commercial building would do just that..
There were none to speak in opposition and the public hearing was closed at 8:03 P.M. The City Attorney claz
fied that he had no feelings in either case, but was
mer-ely required to give the best opinion of the varianc
matter and whether or not it should even apply in this
case. He reiterated the matter of "hardship" was not
being met here, although he did note considerable time
and money being spent by the applicant for the new buil
ing. He also advised the Commission that the setting of
a precedent was involved here, unle'ss they wished to'
amend the zoning ordiance to avoid further confrontatic
such as now before them.
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There was questioning of the staff from the Commis
as to what the remainder of the building would be used
for, how many.tota1 spaces were planned for the entire building, what offstreet parking, if any, was involved
with the other beer bars located on this block of State
street, etc. , and these were answered to the best of
staff's knowledge of the matter. Individual opinions
from the Commissioners regarding approval, disapproval, setting of a precedent for future'requests for reductio wEre heard, followed by a formal motion to deny subject
application, for the reasons given .below.
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 688, A Resolution of
the Planning Commission of Ci.ty of Carlsbad; denying an
application for Reduction in Number of Off-street Parki
Spaces required at 2943 State Street, between Elm and
Grand Avenues, with further reading waived; Reasons for
Denial: (1) The granting of requested Variance is not i
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the best interests of the Central Business District or, I the
City of Carlsbad. (2) There are no unusual Circumstance
which would justify the granting of such Variance. (3)
(b) RESOLUTION OF INTENTION NO. 77 - To consider
house, as well as the reasons for such zone creation,
The Chairman noted the work committee's activities
in this regard and former discussion with the departmen
as well, for the past year. He briefed the audience as
to what. was involved with subject amendment and asked
for a-ny either in favor or in opposition to same, as
proposed. There were none and the public hearing close
at 8:38 P.M. It was further stated there was no need for additional discussion by the Commission as this
proposed amendment represented th'e latest draft and bes
and it should be forwarded to the City Council, with a
recommenda ti on :
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 690, A Resolution
recommending to the City Council an Amendment to Ordi-
nance No.9060, creating a P-U(Pub1ic Utility) Zone, wit
further reading waived; Reasons: (1) This Public Utilit
Zone will be directly applicable to implementing The
Dlinghouse, who also referred to varous wall exhibits -
depicting a Master Plan Developme.nt map and the specifi
location of'uses involved in proposed development. The
res5dential uses of both low and high density, total
per acre, the cemetery use and the 52 acres designated
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€or open space were all covered, as well as adjacent us(3s
and their affect by or on this proposed use, particuiarly
Palomar Airport remaining a "general aviation" airport
2nd such affect on the proposed residential uses. The
Df t'his property was subject to annexation, except for
1 thru 14) were read in full. It was noted that the maj priate reasons therefor, and Conditions of Approval (Ite
1- staff recommendation to approve these application, appr
narrow belt along El Camino Real and Palomar Airport RO
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Chairman Little stated he had physically examined the
property in question, and commented on the various uses
for the varying elevations within this parcel. The
secretary then read correspondence received as follows:
(Two, in opposition: Two, in favor; One, Comment only.)
(1) Planning Dept., County of San Diego dated 2/22/71,
offering comments as to the proposed uses and noting
planned expansion of Palomar Airport with subsequent
future and potential .problems for the proposed resident
uses on subject property. They also recommended denial
of subject application for this reason. (2) Mr. Donald
P. Loker, 1448 Avocado Road, Oceanside, dated 2/23/71
and handed out to Commissioners at this meeting time.
Mr. Loker stated he owned some 600 acres immediately to
the EAst of subject property and wished to go on .record
asbeing vigorously opposed to this application, citing
several reasons therefor. He had attached comments re-
garding cemeteries and crematories from the "Principle
and Practices of Good Planning", University of Illinois
(3) Mr. Jack y. Kubota, general manager of CMWD, state
CMWD had no opposition to the proposed development and/
uses. (4) D. K. Speer, Public Administrator and C.
Barnett, Director of Airport Operations,County of San
Diego, dated 2/19/71, stated there was no opposition tc
proposed development and uses. (5) County Engineer, Sari
Diego County, dated 2/15/71, made general comments and
included attachments regarding planning for arterial
highways in the general area;
MR. JOHN J. MAMAUX, 1393 Basswood Street ,'I and one
of the applicants in this item, was present and made
comments re opposition from County Planning and his 'sub
sequent discussion with. them, as well as Mr. Speer and
Mr. Barnett. County Planning had said if th$y. had dis-
cussed this with these gentlemen prior to writing their
letter, their recommendation might well have- been diffe
The proposed expansion of sometime ago for Palomar Air-
port was discussed with Mr. Barnett and this was resear
with a determination such would not be detrimental to
the uses proposed in subject development. He also cited
City and County General Plan recommendations for planni
in this area and proposed uses being agreeable with the
recommendations. As to opposing adjacent property owne
he stated they planned to be "good neighbors" and consi
their views and property values in 'preparing their spec
plans for development. He felt the Planning Department'
work on this application had been excellent and it. was
to the City's benefit the conditions of approval were
so strict. He fe1.t some would always be opposed to a' '
cemetery, but cited statistics for such need in the Nor
County area both now and in the future as this area con
tinues to grow. There was questioning from the Commiss
on the proposed airport expansion, the residential uses
out and around the runway addition, the flight pattern
planned to not change this airport's use from "general
aviation facility", etc. Also, there were additional
questions of Mr. Mamaux re feasibility studies for such
cemetery facility and he cited all types of living ac-
commodations indicating a growth pattern for the whole
North County area which had been researched to establis
such need at this location. He added further re Mr.
Loker's protest of a cemetery near his property, that
he felt such use would offer a l'buffer" to the airport
from Mr. Loker's property, and later specific plans wil
show how the development can protect Mr. Loker's intere
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S.peaking in favor of this application, MR. JERRY
BELT, 2072 Truesdell Lane, compared whether property
values were affected by a cemetery nearby and cited the
case of "Eternal Hills" development near a new and lars
Episcopal Church, an R-1 subdivision with 14 more acres
to be built on, and a just completed large apartment
complex, all of which had not seen such devalua'tion of
properties by Eternal Hills locating within their gene1
area. He considered this whole area's development to
be one of the best in Oceanside and added, he felt this
would be the case in Carlsbad with the proposed cemetel
at El Camino and Palomar Airport Road. (This completed
those speaking in favor and those wishing to speak in
opposition were called for.)
MR. DONALD P.LOKER, 2373 Woodacre Drive, Oceanside
stated he appreciated Mr. Mamaux's comments and agreed
he was very sincere in them, but he felt this area was
one of the prime areas left in the. whole County, with
considerable taxes and planning for it's development
ere involved as the owner of substantial acreage. He
had opposed the previous planning for a "jet" airport at the Palomar location and had worked vigourously for its location elsewhere. Also, a proposed expansion of
the CUP for Carlsbad Raceway sometime ago, had been
opposed as his property suffered considerable damages
from that adjacent use. He then 'questioned the uses aE
shown on the map and commented how they would adverse15
affect his property. He had talked with otherqin like
businesses and there was some opinion his property woul
be adversely affected by a cemetery at.this location, i
he therefore, asked the.Commission to deny this applice
proposed development. 0
MR. JAMES O'NEAL, attorney and represenkative in
this matter for Eternal Hills Cemetery, Oceanside, stat
they were opposed to another cemetery use as proposed i
cited several reasons, specifically that they did not
feel a need existed in that some five(5) cemeteries al-
ready were located throughout the whole area. The effe on the tax structure in the City of Carlsbad was notedr
stating that for every acre developed as a cemetery, tL
was taken off the County tax rolls, thereby eliminatins
that amount of money for the City and, the remaining'
land cannot be developed to the highest tax rate. Mr.
D'Neal added that in 1963 in San MarcOS, a proposed
cemetery had been denied because they had felt sufficie
cemeteries already existed to meet the North County's
needs.
MR. DON WEEGAN, 6670 El Camino Real, stating he
represented his mother-in-law, Mr. Bressi, of the Bress
Ranch, who owned some 1500 plus acres immediately to tL
South'of subjec't property. He stated this use was felt
to be detrimental to all acreage adjacent to it and the
Commission was urged to oppose this planned development yr. Mamaux then commented on various of the opposing
statements just. made.
The Commission. then discussed their individual
Dpinions of this* use, the location of the cemetery and
the residential areas., and whether this would be good
planning at this intersection and near the airport. It
was generally agreed no detriment to adjacent propoerti
existed, in that the airport and raceway already exist€
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Conditional Use Permit for the cemetery use and to
Airport Road, with further reading waived; Reasons: (1)
development in harmony with the natural environment,
compatible land uses, and p-eservation of open space.
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 694, recomme,nding to
the City Council approval of a Pre-Annexational". Zone
Change from City R-1-10,OOO and'County Zoning to P-c
(Planned Community) Zone, and adopbion of a Master Plan
was read by Mr. Olinghouse, who also referred to a slid?
projection depicting adjacent ownerships, location of
property, nearby roads and intersections, etc. The need €or this CUP was set forth as being in line with commit-
nents for the State's present I-5 widening prograin and
this company is under contract to provide the paving
portion for two(2) 45-day periods in March and October
1971. It was the staff recommendation this CUP be ap-
proved and appropriate reasons and conditions of approvsl
#ere given in support of same.
The secretary read correspondence received in op-
position, from SOLAMAR MOBILE ESTATES, signed by Mr.
L'arry Wright, who stated they were not adverse to this
type use but felt this was not the location for such an3
Tave reasons for this opinion. They were also o'f the
>pinion such temporary CUP was in fact a prelude to a
permanent facility at this location.
MR. GEORGE HODGES, Matich Corporation, 22636 Ardis
)rive, Colton, Cd, was present and stated this CUP was
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definitely for temporary use only and cited the State':
estima.ted paving requirements in March and October of
this year in connection with the widening program unde.
way. He explained the type of concrete plant involved
pieces of equipment necessary, to such operation, how
they will obtain the necessary water from the main at
Palomar Airport Road, and upon questioning, discussed
the normal hours'of operation for such facility and vo. of traffic that will .be generated by this particular
paving job. Insofar as the concern about a permanent
facility, Mr. Hodges stated the portable batch plant w(
common to this type contract and this type business ant
was completely movable for sake of economy and relocat.
to other jobs because of the particular nature of pavi]
operations. He added he had no objection to another
condition of approval being added limiting the hours 0:
operation, so that very early or very late hours would
be avoided which might affect nearby neighbors. He
attempted to discuss the noise factor common to such oj
erations, explaining the types of equipment which woulc
contribute to such noise factor. He also affirmed the
proper sanitary facilities are always provided for the
use of personnel at these operations. He also confirmc
a volume of some 50-60 trucks per hour would be going
in an-d out from the Lowder Lane plant at the I-5 and
Palomar Airport Road intersection.
MR. JOHN S. CALLAHAN, 4559 Chicarillo, San Di'ego,
president and general manager of Cal-Mill PlastiCs, yuj
North of subject property, read a letter, stating they
were opposed to location of such plant so near their
facility and listed several reasons for .such 0pposit"iol
Of these, Mr. Callahan stated upon questioning, the du:
and noise factor was considered the biggest complaint,
and the additional traffic generated at the'freeway in]
section was cited as unsafe, even for a tempbrary peric
of time.
MR. M. P. MAURER, spoke as representative of Paul
Ecke and Carltas Corporation, who were opposed to this
permit and felt it would be detrimental to the City ant
the area in general.
MR. JAMES GIZER, 3784 Skyline Road, City, owns
property at the end of Lowder Lane 'also, and stated he
was opposed to the use proposed and he felt such might
precipitate a permanent facility of this type at that
location, which would be very detrimental to property
values, the asthetics of the area, and lend a poor im-
pression to- those entering the City of. CArlsbad from tl
South.
DR. ANDREW MC REYNOLDS, La.Jolla, and owner of prc
immediately adjoining subject parcel to the East, state
construction of- a mobile home park was planned for thir
summ,er and the second time period planned for this batc
plant in the Fall could very well. be detrimental to the
opening of that facility as it is how planned. He- was
opposed for the reasons previously cited by others and
felt this would be a precedent for the permanent locati
of such use at this location.
The City Manager then commented that the exact nun
of trucks proposed for this paving contract had not bet
disoussed with staff and such a volume of traffic at tt.
particular intersection was unsafe and too much to ~llc
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He added the application should be denied for these
his operation elsewhere.
reason-s, but the applicant should be worked with to loc
Commissioner Dewhurst stated he was in a like busi
ness and had observed this company's previous paving
operations during 1-5 building in the San Diego area do
town. He stated they were very-clean and efficient abou
their operation and s-uch plants were definitely tempora
in nature, of necessity. He added the State's.schedulin
for the widening program was very critical and this ver
important construction already underway throughout the
City should not be held up for the paving operations
necessary to the overall construction program.
The motion was made to deny this application for a H
Conditional Use Permit to allow temporary construction A
and use of a Concrete Batch Plant at referenced locatio ,
for the reasons given below. I PLANNING COMMISSkON RESOLUTION NO. 693, a Resolution-of
Carlsbad City Planning Commission denying a Conditional
Use Permit allowing Temporary Use of Concrete Mix Plant to be located between I-5 and Palomar Airport Road, So
of Lowder Lane, with further reading waived; .Peasons: (
The traffic volume generated by such operation is consi
ed potentially hazardous at the proposed location. (2)
The area of such operation is. not suited to accommodate
this facility at this time.
NEW BUSINESS: None I
OLD BUSINESS:
(a) 'Continued' Items Attachment - Planning-Di.rector
reports: (All as shown on list, except Item 70:.23 -
Architectural Controls/Review Board: Mr. Johnston
stated he will arrange a meeting date for this work
committee, by telephone, to Commissioners Dominguez,
Palmatteer and Dewhurst. Mr. Dominguez stated he would
be out of town all of the next week.
Item 70.22 - Nu'isance Ordinance - Mr. Olinghquse state
this is now under consideration by an ad hoc committee
of CIC and they will report at their next meetin in Mar
which he will follow with a report to the Commission on
their recommendations.
ZOOMMITTEE REPORTS: None - "I
ADJOURNMENT: The motion was duly made to adjourn at
10:51 P.M., and received unanimous voice vote approval.
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