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MINUTES OF MEETING: PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE: MAY 11, 1971
TIME: - 7:30 P.M.
PLACE: CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
ROLL CALL:
City staff members present: J. E. Spano, L. A. Moe, R.A
Johnston, D. A. Agatep, R. S. Osburn.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes of regular meeting of
April 27, 1971 were approved as submitted, by proper
motion and voice vote approval.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
(a) Mr. Osburn was present to present a request to mot
a building by San Diego Gas 6i Electric Company at Encir:
Plant facility, being a metal structure in the area of
proposed Unit' #4,soon to be under construction. They
wish to maintain this building as a warehouse for stori
materials used during the construction period of the ne
Unit #4, qfter w-hich time this will.be torn down. Mr.
Osburn affirmed the building permit would be issued to
this effect and represents an on-site move only. He als
estimated the time period involved in such temporary
locatio? as. 18 to 36 months, depending upon completion
of construction and installation of the new generator.
Mr. Osburn answered additional questions re this buildi
move and the construction of Unit #4. Commission dis-
cussion indicated this represented a normal and necessa
request for the utility company and as such, was agreea
to the Planning Commission.
A motion was introduced to approve the on-site
temporary relocation of such metal building as requeste
by the Bu-ilding Department for the applicant, SDG&E Con
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
(a) CONTINUED - RESOLUTION OF INTENTION N0.78 - To
consider recommending Amendment of Article 14 - Conditi
Uses, re addition of "Private Campgrounds.''
Mr. Agatep referred to new and revised draft of th
resolution of intention, which has beep continued twice
to- allow further revision and review of items to be con
tained in the proposed amendment. He proceeded to read the full text, involving all criteria governing overnig
zampsites, as last revised by the City Attorney and
planning staff. -These criteria represent those items
leemed necessary for City control and guidance of such
npplications in the future, within the framework of the
:UP ordinance section. Appropriate reasons for such we
slso read. Commission discussion followed, as to: What
the staff opinioned .the term "camping" to mean and what
lses are encompassed therein? The fact that overflow
:amping traffic was not able to be accommodated in the
2tate or County beaches and campgrounds now available.
rhe Chairman determined there were none in the audience
to speak in favor or opposition of this proposed amend-
nent and public hearing was closed at 7:47 P.M.
There being no further discussion necessary after
lontinuing questions and revision of subject proposal,
notion was made to recommend approval to City Council,
For the reasons noted below and subject to conditions a
Zontained within the resolution draft amendment form:
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PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 701. A Resolution
recommending Amendment of Ordinance No.9060, Article 14
Conditional Uses, Sec'tion 1400, Subsection 2, Item h.,
regarding Overnight Campsites, with further reading
waived; Reasons: (1) The adoption of subject amendment
would establish the flexibility desired in the existing ordinance by allowing privately-owned land and private1
owned and cperated recreational campground facilities t
be developed. (2) The development of privately-owned
and operated recreational campground facilities will
augment any recreational program set forth by the City
of Carlsbad and its adopted General Plan.
(b) RECLASSIFICATION OF ZONE and ADOPTION OF MASTER PL
To consider Zone Change from R-1-7,500 to Planned Commu
(P-C) Zone and. Adoption of Master Plan for 17-Unit Sing1
Family Residential Development; Applicant/Owner: BeeCee
Company/H. L. Anderson, located on North side of Tamara
Avenue, West of Highland Drive 135 Feet.
Mr. Agatep introduced the staff"report dated 5/6/7
and refered to wall exhibits prepared by staff and the
applicant, showing location of subject pcoperty, adjace
zoning and streets, and- Exhbitis A, B and C, showing
proposed development layout, elevations, typical struct
etc. The report presented the history on this parcel,
stating a previous P-C Zone Change application had been
approved for subject property in August 1969, but subse
quently denied by City Council. Specific statistics
covering staff's kecommendation to approve such develop
ment were given, concerning amount of school-age childr
involved in such development vs. standard subdivision development under the current R-1-7,500 zoning; total
number of single-family dwellings to be built vs. sub-
division total number; amount of common open space vs.
standard sideyards and subdivision street footages. The
zonditions of approval requii-ed development within the
framework of the City's P-C ordinance, No. 9218, and
2thers as itemized in the report.
Commission discussion followed and asked Mr. Johnst
to clarify the proposed property line, which he stated
involved a IO-ft. dedication for future street widening
The secretary 'read correspondence as follows: (1) a Mrs
G. Vachua, who owns property adjoining subject property and stated she was not opposed to such P-C development.
(2) a M. Brunache of Santa Ana, who also owns property
adjoining, referEed to the previous 1969 application fo
P-C use, stating she had been strongly opposed to such
at that time and still was, citing various reasons for
opposition to multiple dwellings in a residential vicin
She further stated such zoning would constitute "spot"
zoning and kished tb go on record as stron.gly opposed to this application. She asked the Planning Commission
to explain why such rezoning was even entertained by
them.
MR. HOWARD BAUMGARTNER, 3437 Highland Drive, and
representative for BeeCee Company, the developers, stat
he would not attempt to answer all the points brought u
by the M. Brunache correspondence. He referred to the
Exhibits A, B, and C and stated this P-C development wa
different from the previous denied one in 1969, in that
all one-level dwellings were planned now. Also, that
their architect had just indicated that a change might
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be made to one structure, breaking it up into two(2)
structures instead. He also cited*many parcels in this
City which, like this' one, do not lend themselves to th
standard R-1 subdivision and he felt the P-C zone does
lend itself to utilization of such parcels, as in this
case. He further felt this development would be an attz
bute to the general neighborhood, rather than a liabili
There were no others to speak in favor, and those who
wished to speak in opposition followed.
MR. GEORGE FLANDERS, 3765 Yvette Way, stated he did
not quite understand the P-C zone and referred to the
last such application here, stating he and several othe
had been referred to P-C developments to visit in othez
cities. He stated these had been visibly different froa
the present proposal, primarily in the area of planned
recreation. He felt this development would actually loc
and be just like a subdivision development, such as the
one it would adjoin.?- He questioned this as being "spot
zoning and felt 'this was not a good use for such a resi
dential area of the City.
MR. JACK CASTLER, 3843 Highland Drive, stated he wa
pposed .to this development because it was actually
ingle-story apantments and he agreed with the previous
ppositions, as well as the Brunache letter previously
ntroduced.
MRS. C. MUNN, 3770 Yvette Way, stated this property
acked onto her hbme and at the end of her property
ould be the storage area for cars, boats, etc., and sh
esired to view a residential area, not a storage area.
MR. BOB MORRISON, 3881 Highland Drive, felt this
roposal was stretching the P-C use considerably. He
Is0 envisioned traffic problems onto Tamarack Avenue
nd questioned the ability to sell such dwellings at th
30 thousand dollar proported price. This completed th
pposing views and public hearing was closed at 8:lOP.M
The City Attorney requested clarification of the
lanning staff re the number of units involved in this
arcel, and Mr. Johnston stated the normal method is to
tru-cture the lots according to the existing, total
arcel of land, with the maximum here being 11 standard
,500 sq.ft. lots. He also pointed out the number of .
edrooms proposed for a subdivision is something that c
e determined, but under the P-C zone, the 4-bedroom
units proposed must be built and indicates one of the
"controllable" items under P-C and Specific Plan approv
e also added there is a direct relation to the number.
f bedrooms and number of cars or school-age children enerated within a given development. Mr. Moe stated h
ad attended a League of California Cities meeting rece
nd the subject of P-C zones and importance of formulat
roper legal means to assure perpetual maintenance of
pen space, landscaping, etc., within such projects, ha
een covered. The obligations of the homeowners for the
air share of such maintenance was important, to avoid
ity-obligation of 'such at anytime in the future.
Commissioner Palmateer commented on the P-C Zone
oncepts and the advantages as opposed to single-family
oning. He cited the problems of cities in meeting the
ver-increasing needs of more homes and felt the P-C us
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was a means of meeting some of these needs. He pointed
out private dwelling footage is given up and the dwelli
clustered in exchange for a common area which is main-
tained by the ogerall ownership. He felt this use is
well-attributed to such parcels which are difficult to
standardize for typical subdivision lots.
Commissioner Dewhurst commented on the reference
earlier to the narrowness of the streets, i.e., appr0x.i.
wide, which would prohibit parking on the street and he
felt, a defini.te advantage which forced owners to park
in driveways or garages.
Commissioner Jose commented on the recent use of tl
P-C zone throughout the State and the country, in ap-
proaching such problems as "urban sprawl" and to meet
housing market needs. He commented on certain improveme
over the standard subdivision-type development, such as
he lives in and also referred to difference in this frc
the prior P-C ap.plication for the same parcel. He did
not'feel this development represented the true meaning
of the P-C Zone, but felt the subject parcel's develop-
ment was difficult under R-1 zoning.
Commissio'ner Dominguez stated he would go on reco1
as being in fav0.r. of this development, but asked if ad-
ditional screening could be made available at such plac
as the storage area Mrs. Munn referred to previously.
Mr. Johnston advised Specific Pl.ans will be forthcoming
at a later date, 'giving complete and final details of
such development. Additional discussion was given the
am0un.t. of open space available in this P-C use as oppos
to standard subdivision, with front, rear and sideyards
as requi.red and the standard 52 ft. subdivision street,
all of which use up considerable footage thrown into a
common area of open space under the P-C. Also, in R-1
zoning, with the 35 ft. height maximum, 2 or 3 story
houses could be built, while this proposed oneilevel dwellings on1 y..
The motion followed, recommending approval of Zone
Change from R-1-7'500 to P-.C and adoption of a Master
Plan for 17-unit residential development, for the reasc
given below and subject to conditions of approval as stipulat-ed in staff report dated 5/6/71:
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 708 - A resolution
of the Carlsbad City Planning Commission recommending approval of Change of Zone from R-1-7,500 to Planned
Community(P-C)Zone and, Adoption of Master Plan for 17-
Unit, Single-Family, Residential Development, with
further reading waived; Reasons: (1) The land under dis
cussion could be developed into a traditional 11-lot su
division, but satisfactory development under existing
R-1-7,500 zone would be difficult to achieve because of
the anfiguration of the parcel involved. (2) The propc
for 17.single-family residential dwellings does not exc
the General Plan density assignment of 7 family units
per acre. (3)The proposed Planned Community development
will offer a change in neighborhood design by allowing
larger amounts of usable land to be devoted to open spe
and landscaping techniques. (4)Proposed plan constitute
a unique type of living environment that is not availat
in the community at the present time.
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NEW BUSINESS: None
OLD BUSINESS:
(a) Commissioner Dominguez referred to the telegram
read at last Commission meeting re Ford Foundation
announcement of interest to the whole County., which he
had attended as representative for the Commission. He
said a check has been received covering a Ford Foundatit
Grant for some $725 thousand dollards to initiate and
integrate an environmental management project.
(b) Memorandum from City Manager re Appeal Hearing of
Cannon Zone Change and Master Plan for freeway facilitit
as denied by the Planning Commission. The memorandum
itemized certain reasons given by Council .for approval
of said appeal and requested further review and report
by the Commission. These reasons were discussed, partit
Item #1 referring to certain 1970 criteria for service
station development. Mr. Johnston wa.s adked and advised
under what conditions service station's could be develop(
wh.ich include freeway oriented facilities, as is involvl
in this case. Additional discussion of the Commission',
reason for denial followed, it being pointed out that t.
overall development plan was considered quite good and
an excellent use.for this location, but opposition had
centered on two(2) service stations at the one quadrant
in view of the number of existing and approved stations
for freeway quadrant locations. .It was agreed that no
change existed in'the former recommendation of denial
for the whole project, in view of the CUP request for 2
stations and certain views were made as to the purpose
of Planning Commission review and service station proli.
tion not-being considered good planning. It was later
requested that these be incorporated in the report bac.
to the Council, as substantiation of their unchanged
recommendation. This was accomplished by motion and ap-
proved by voice vote.
(c) 'Continued' Items attachment: Planning Dept. repor;
0.3 Buena Vista Lagoon: Mr. Johnston stated this wou.
e brought up later in discussion of these items. i 0.8 Historic Corridor: Mr. Johnston felt preliminaric
ould be available by the next meeting.
0.11 Problem Area Zoning Study: Communications atteml
'n this area are continuing.
70.20 Revised General Plan: Pending other projects.
70.22 Nuis2nce Ord'inance: Mr. Moe stated 'copies of lil
ordinances from other cities are now available and the:
can be reviewed by staff.
I 70.23 Architectural Controls/Review Board: The Plann;
Dept. recommendation will be to include this item with; I the "Community Living Element" as proposed by Mr. Olinc
house.
70.24 Off-street Parking in R-Zones Amendment: Mr.
Johnston's memorandum of the last meeting was discussec
referring to the statistics contained therein to increi
off-street parking to that ratio within the RD-M Zone.
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'0.24 (Continued)
'e noted this had been sent to the Board of Realtors an
:he CIC, but no comme'nt had been received as yet from
,hese. The perqentaee of parking increases was questio
nd Mr. Johnston stated basically the increase is some
reas would be to that in the RD-M Zone, or 1-1-#4-1+1/
nd 2 spaces, depending on number of bedroom units invo
'e added all we are concerned with here is "residential
!ses, not office spaces, etc. , as they are already cove
n the offstreet code. The city of San Diego's recent
broposal for a-n even higher offstreet requirement was
loted , but Mr. Johnston stated every city seems to have
Parying requirements, with this City's problems existin
n the multiple zone areas with too many cars parked on
:he streets, ensuing complaints between neighbors and t
:he Police Department. These increases are considered
dequate to meet the problems involved, but larger in-
Oreases might only create an excessive blacktopping sit
:ion for such properties. He asked for Commission dis-
fussion or comment at a later meeting, when report fron
,he agencies mentioned above becomes"avai1able.
0.25 Interim Grading Ordinance(New Item): Mr. Johnstc
,eferred to- the just-completed draft of a proposed ordi
:ance requesting a 90-day moratorium on all grading
lermits without Specific Plan approval by the Commissio
nd Council; this was later revised to exclude such per
'or swimming pool excavation. The reasoning behind thi
lroposal was given by Mr. Johnston as a means to study
he existing gradling ordinance to update same and provi
leans of controlling excavation of undeveloped areas ar
rithin bodies of water, such as our Lagoon areas. The
Ise of the Interim Ordinance procedure as allowed undez
:he g.overnment code and previously utilized in the mobi
lome park development, was explained as only being for-
rarded to the Council with the Commission's recommendat
After additional discussion of the need to update
:he grading ordinance, it was agreed the proposed amenc
rhould be recommended to th.e Council, in a memorandum
Iccompanying same. This was done via a motion and voic
rote approval.
!OMMITTEE REPORTS:.;;
(a) Commissioner Dominguez referred to previous discu
of the I-5 landscaping plan and asked the staff to che
on all commitments from the State during the initial h
ings in order to assure what these are and to see what
type landscaping could be proposed by the City, what
scheduling is involved, etc. Mr. Johnston stated this
could be researched. and returned to the 'Continued' It
list as it was previously.
(b) The CHairman the department to keep the Commissio,
advised re future or proposed developments involving
existing agricul&ural lands. He referred to recent ac-
tivities in San Luis Rey Valley as examples of what ca.
happen when the farmer is forced to sell to developers
who break up the land, sometimes indiscrimiaently. He
2dded San Diego County is one of the greatest potentia.
€or urban development due to the large amounts of unde7
lands remaining, and felt we should keep abreast of al.
planning for agricultural lands in the general area.
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DJOURNMENT:
BY proper motion, the meeting was adjourned at 9:l
'.M. , by voice vate approval.
espectfully submitted,
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