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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1972-07-11; Planning Commission; MinutesMEETING OF: DATE : TIME: PLACE: CITY OF CARLSBAD JULY 11, 1972 7:30 P.M. CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS CARLSBAD CITY PLANNING COMMISSION k ROLL CALL: City staff members present: Donald A. Agatep, Hunter T. Cook, L. .A. Moe, J. B. Arnold, E. J. Olinghouse, R. S. Osburn APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes of the regular meeting of June 27, 1972 were approved as submitted by proper voice vote. WRITTEN COMMUNICATION: None ORAL COMMUNICATION: None PUBLIC HEARINGS: (a) Continued - SPECIFIC PLAN 81 TENTATIVE MAP - Reque! for approval of a Specific Plan and Tentative Map for a 532-unit apartment complex Phase I1 of "Hosp Grove" development on property located on the easterly stde of Monroe Street, norther1.y of Elm Avenue; Applicant: Kamar Construction Company """"""""""""""""""""""""-~-~~- The department report was presented by the Associate Planner, who also illustrated the location of the property. He commented that the applicants have met the requirements of the P-C Ordinance and the condi- tions of the Specific Plan and Master Plan. Questl'on: of the commission were answered at this time. Mr. Nick Banche, 3434 Ridgecrest, was present to represent the applicants. He discussed the project and commented on the conditions of approval. He objected to condition 15 which required Kqmar to provide for the future installation of cable televisic He also objected to condition 18 regarding future street im.provements on Elm Avenue bordering the s-i'te, and suggested that this condition be deferred to the City Council for their final decision. The commission discussed the possibility of reimburse. ment to Kamar from the Cable T.V. company. After a 1engt.hy discuss'ion regarding the installation of cable, the commission decided to defer tfiis matter to the City Council. The City Engineer made comments regarding the street improvements. He said the City had purchased the right-of-way at fair market value which was,fn-theip opinion, very fair. There was no one present to speak in favor or in opposition to this 'proposal. The public hearing was closed at' 8:OO P.M. After discussion, a motion was made to adopt Resolutic No. 805 and 804 which were identified by tttle and further reading waived. The reasons and condttlons of approval were given. Conditions 1-19 as amended deleting condition 15 (to be resolved hy the City Council 1. PRESENT ABSENT MOT ION AYES ABSENT MOT I ON AYES ABSENT \ COMMISSIONERS I ! i i X x x I i CITY OF -2- CARLSBAD (b) CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - Request for approval of a C.U.P. to allow construction of a 625-foot square foot drive-through restaurant to be located west of Washington Street, between Grand Avenue and Elm Avenue; Applicant: Edward G. Kentner, et a1 """"""""""""""""""""""""""- The summary of the staff report was presented by Mr. Agatep. He briefly outlined the type of operatio1 circulation system, and location. A letter was read by Commissioner Dewhurst, acting secretary, from Mrs. D. C. Wiehle in opposition to the proposed C.U.P. Mr. Ed Kentner, 2978 Carlsbad Boulevard, was present to make comments and answer questions. He said that the reversed traffic pattern as requested by staff is not feasible because it would not allow for stacking of cars. He said that it would.be a drive- .through operation only and no provisions were being made for picnicing. A call box would be provided somewhere near the entrance. There was no one present to speak in favor or in opposition to this proposal. The public hearing was closed at 8:26 P.M. The -commissfon discussed this proposal at length. The circulation problems and the use of Rotary Park were the main issues of discussion. The commission decided to continue the item until July 25, 1972 to allow the staff and applicant sufficient time to resolve the circulation problems and how the traffic will affect Rotary Park. A motion was made to that effect. (c) PRE-ANNEXATIONAL RECLASSIFICATION FROM COUNTY' ZONING TO PLANNED COMMUNITY ZONE AND ADOPTION OF A MASTER PLAN - Request for a pre-annexational reclas- sification from County A-1(8), A-3(8) and L-C to P-C.Zone on 2900 acres located on the easterly side of El Camino Real, northerly of Olivenhain Road. APPLICANT La Costa Land Company """""""""""""""""""""""-~""-, The Planning Director recommended that this ttem be continued until July 25, 1972 because progress on significant items may .\ be made by that date. Mr. John Mamaux, 1393 Basswood, was present to speak for the applicant. He said that they were not in opposition to the continuance, but that they wanted to have the pre-zoning completed by August 8 before the La Costa citizens vote on the annexation. He said that the actual annexation would not take place until Sometime around October, so there would be time to complete a sohere of influence before then. . . After a short discussion, a motton was made to continue until July 25, 1972. COMMISSIONERS MOTION AYES ABSENT MOT TON AYES ABSENT CITY OF CARLSBAD -3- Items (d) and (e) were continued until July 25, 1972. (f) PRE-ANNEXATIONAL ZONE CHANGE - Request for a pre- annexational change of zone from San Diego County A-1-8 to R-1-6,000 on property located westerly of Interstate-5 a'nd 2,500 feet southerly of Poinsettia Lane, Applicant: California Brokers, Inc. -"""""""""""""""""""""""""" Mr. Agatep presented the staff's report and commented that the-recommendation was to continue until several items have been resolved, i.e. alignment of Avenida Encinas, location of school sites and neighborhood park facilities. Mr. Jim Wolfe, VTN Engineers, 3065 Rosecrans Place, San Diego, was present to represent the applicant. Theyere opposed to a continuance because they felt there were no alternatives regarding the alignment of Avenida Encinas. He discussed the background of their project and the amount of study they had done. He felt that nothing further could be resolved througl a continuance. Mr. McCoy, representative of California Brokers, made comments regarding the school sites and park dedication fees. He said that it was uncertain how many children the development would add to the school system and he felt they should not be required a dedication of school site property. He also commented steep, but would be w that a dec the f i nanc There was proposal. t li i i n hat the parks dedication-fee was too that if there were no alternatfve he lling to go along with it. But he asked sion be made because of their escrow and a1 burden. o one present to speak in favor of the Mr. Sol Forman, owner of Ocean Manor, Carlsbad, was present to make comments regarding the impact the developments approved to date will have on the City, i.e. services, school system. Asked the commission to seriously consider the matter. Mr. Perry Lamb, 5171 Shore Drive, made additional comments regarding the revision of the General Plan. He gave two reasons of opposition: (1) The denstty is not right for the area; (2) The City doesn't know where they stand right now in that area. Mr. Raft, 2525 Ocean Blvd., Corona del. Mar, was opposed to the alignment of Avenida Encl'nas. The public hearing was closed at 9:13 P.M. The commission, after d.iscussion, felt the Cl'ty should not proceed with any development in this area until the General Plan i.s revised and we have progressed far enough to reach a knowledgable decisiol A motion was made to adopt Resolution 809, denying a pre-annexational zone change on subject property for the following reasons: 1. The location of school sites and a neighborhood 2. The alignment of Avenida Encinas has not been park facility is not defined. adequately defined. COMMISSIONERS motton ayes absent . '1 COMMl SSIONERS CITY OF CARLSBAD -4- - NEW BUSINESS: (a) Continued - TENTATIVE MAP - Request for approval of a Tentative Map for a 160-lot resident'ial develop- ment for property located easterly of Park Drive and southerly of Tam,arack Avenue. Applicants: Donald A. Briggs, Jr. (owner); J. W. Klug Dev. Co. (subdivider) """""""""""""""""""""""""" Mr. Agatep commented on this proposal and summarized the staff report. He illustrated the alignment of Hillside Drive on a graphic, and answered questions regarding the circulation. The commission had several questions regarding the drainage problems in this area. The City Engineer answered these questions and commented that condition #5 took care of any problems. The secretary read a letter from Donald A. Briggs, Jr dated July 11, 1972. Mr. John Klug, the developer, made comments and answered questions. He said they had worked out the Hillside Drive problem and were in agreement with the conditions of the staff report. There was no one present to speak in favor. Mr. Bart Lefferdink, 4576 Cove Drive, spoke in opposition to this proposal only because of the drainage problems in the lagoon area. The City.Manage.r commented that it would'be feasible for the City to participate with the'Janss Corporatiol and the property owners to work out a solution to the drainage problem. Mr. Agatep commented on the lot frontages in the subdivision. He said that they were in conformance with the tentative map subdivision ordinance. Mr. Sol Forman, 3739 Grecourt Way, commented on the additional problem which will be added to the school system. He urged the commission to consider the unfavorable school report. Col. Skotnicki, 3684 Adams Street had questions regarding the extension of services to the new development and if he would absorb the costs as . .a property owner and taxpayer. Mr. Glissman, 4400 Park Drive spoke in opposition because of the drainage problem. Mrs. Phyllis Forman, 3739 Grecourt Way, felt the developer should be required to meet the needs of the school system. Mr. Klug commented on several points regarding the silting and the schools. The public hearing was closed at 10:24 P,M. ..- COMMISSIONERS CITY OF CARLSBAD -5- ~~ ~~ ~ AFter discussion among the commission, a motion was made to adopt Resolution No. 807, identified by tItle only, further reading waived. The reasons for appro- val were read and conditions 1-14 inclusive, modifyin condition #10 were adopted. In addition to that motion, the commission requested the City Manager to contact the property owners who are concerned with the drainage into Bristol Cove and that an agreement be made for City partici- pation in time to present this application to the City Council. (b) HOUSE MOVE - Request for approval of a house move from 1045 Grand Avenue to 1339 Buena Vista Way. Owner: Richard Gilbert """"""""""""""""""""""""""- Mr. R. S. Osburn presented 'the report on the requeste house move. He said the house was in good shape and there should be no problems. The commission asked about the revision of the ordinance pertaining to house moves. Mr. Osburn commented that he would prepare a draft to present to the Planning Department for their comments and the City Manager's comments. A motion was made to approve the subject house move. The commission discussed the proposed moratorium at length. A memo from the City Attorney was read by the secretary, requesting that additional time be given to look into all the legalities before presenting a resolution. The City Attorney was present to discuss the progress of his research. This item was discussed along with the need for additional personnel and the possibilities of Charter City. A letter to the Planning Commission from the CIC urging a moratorium on development was read by the secretary. After further discussion, a motion was made to recommend that the City Attorney be given an additior two weeks to study this matter. 8. COMMITTEE REPORTS: (a) Downto'wn Work Committee Progress Report - 'The chairman announced that a meetfng was being held July 12th at 7:OO P.M. Sn the City Wana er's Conference Room. (.parking committee 3 ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 11:25 P.M. by prop,er voice vote until Friday, July 21, 1972, at 8:OO A.M. iwthe City Manager's Conference Room. Respectfully submitted, L. LUCKY /d+.,. , Secretary MOTION AYES NOES ABSENT MOT ION AYES ABSENT MOTION, AYES ABSENT MOT I ON AYES ABSENT 4 x X X ! !