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MEET I NG OF : CITY OF CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION DATE : July 10, 1973 TIME: 7:30 P.M. PLACE : CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL: Six Commissioners were present, Commissioner Wrench was absent.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes for the Meeting of June 26, 1973, were approved as presented.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATION: Planning Director, Donald Agatep, read the below listed communications to the ComissToners:
1. Memorandum from Ctty Manager Frankltn W. LilQy, advis,
of a meeting to be held on July 25, 1973 in the City Counc. Chambers, Carlsbad City Hall, at 7:OO P.M. The meeting concerns the North County Transit Study, and representativr from San Diego County Comprehensive Planning Organization and VTN, a consulting firm, will conduct the meeting to obtain public input and present the report on the North County Transit Study.
2. Memo from Planning Director to Planning Comr@'ssfoners advising of the Grand Opening for Vtnce Dixon Ford to be held on Thursday July 12, 1973 at 5:30 and dedixatton ceremonies for the formal dedication of Plaza Del Norte.
3. Letter from John A. Newell, 8150 Beverly Blvd., Los Angeles, Calif. 90048, advising the Comission commercial zoning will soon be applied for on two parcels south of Marron Road on the east side of El Camino Real. It was pointed out in the letter that back when the widening of El Camino Real was first being studied, the landowners along the 01 d road donated the 1 and necessary for the widening, thereby eliminating both land acquisition costs and litigation expense, expediting the achievement of conditions suitable for commercial zoning.
that as each of the subject parcels come before the Commission, this letter will agal'n be brougkt to thdr attention.
Planning Dl'rector, D. Agatep, advised the Commission
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: Commissioner Jose inquired of the Plannin! Director as to why the Comnissioners no longer receive copies of the City Council Minutes. He advised that it has been' about 5 months now since he personally has received the minutes, and the other commissioners, except Commissioner Casler who pays for her own, all said they are not receiving the minutes either, Planning Director assured the Commissioners a memo would be sent to The.City Clerk's office immediately advising of their desire to receive, on a regular basis, the minutes of all City Council meetings.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
(a) CASE NO. EIS-127, SPECIFIC PLAN-116, TENTATIVE MAP CT 73-2 - SANTA FE GLENS
The Planning Director gave the staff report and read a letter from Rick Engineering Co. requesting this item be Tabled. Staff concurred with the request , and upon a motion by Commissioner Little, this item was Tabled, and will be properly noticed before being brought back before the Commis! again.
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westerly of and adjacent to el camino real, approximately 200 ft. northerly of the intersection of Kelly Drive and El Camino Real.
Said property contains approximately 63 acres.
Paul Williams, Associate Planner, gave the staff report for this project, discussing the specific plan, tentative map and environmental factors. He a1 so read a letter from-
J. J. Johnston, project director, asking re1 ief from four (4) engineering conditions: dedicated width of Tamarack, Signalizing at intersection of Tamarack and El Camino Real, Improvements on El Camino Real, and Offsite Improvements of Birch.
The Public Hearing was opened, and Mr. Jerry Johnsto 647 Camino De Las Maris, San Clemente spoke to the Commissioner and explained a 40 scale map of the project placed on the wall. He pointed out that the number of pools had now been placed on the map in blue and the potential tot lots were also shown.
Commissioner Dominguez questioned Mr. Johnston if there had ever been any mention of a possible reimbursement for the installation of the fully actuated- traffic stgnql the$ are to
place at Tamarack and El Camino. Mr. Johnston stated that in
discussions with the Engineering staff reimbursement had been
mentioned. He stated that Douglas-Pacific would prefer to
carry out all the requirements of the City at the time of their
projects 2,ahther than owe for them 1 ater and be hit with the inflated prices. Mr. Johnstori-stated he felt if they were required to put in the traffic light that it should be shared with the City on a 50-50 basis, and again stated that according
to the latest Voorhees study they did not feel the traffic
generated warranted the need for a traffic signal at this time, and feels that a flashing light would be sufficient at this tim
Commissioner Casler stated she objected to the word
"Potential" being used for the Tot Lots, and felt the map or
the word potential, and stated they would consult with others o the type of equipment to be put up for the children.
The Public Hearing was closed and Commissioner Palmateer asked that the right-of-way requirements again be clarified for the record. Tim Flanagan from Engineering Division stated that the 84 ft. refers to right of way with standard 4 lane street as shown in the General Plan, 64 ft. curb to curb within 84 ft. right of way. With regard to a median strip, this is to ultimat be a landscaped median. To date the City and County have been involved in.the median development jointly and the Developer wil have one curb to put in on his half of the street improvements.
Being no further questions, the following motions were made.
Motion was.made to adopt;.:. Specific Plan No. 115 for the reasons stated in the Staff Report and with conditions' as outlined (1-14).
Motion was made to adopt Tentative Map CT 73-8 with conditions 1-20 as amended, as shown in staff report.
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south sides of Poinsettia Lane between Carlsbad Blvd. and the A.T. & S.F. right-of-way.
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Donald Agatep, Planning Director read the staff's request for a
continuance of this item to allow more time to review a revision
of plans. Mr. Agatep a1 so read a letter dated 'July 9, 1973 fro John D. Lusk discussing two items they felt were still in need of clarification with staff. After reading this letter, Mr.. Agatep stated it was only read as a point of interest to the
Commission and no action was needed at this time.
Mr. Donald Steffinson, representa'tive of John D. Lusk & Son advised the Planning Commissioners that the letter was writt for guidance, and stated that Lusk is most anxious to proceed wi their development.
Motion was made that this matter be continued to the reguTar meeting of the Planning Commission to be held on August 14, 1973.
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(d) CASE NO. SPECIFIC PLAN -130 - DONALD R. GRAY CONSTRUC
COMPANY. Request for adoption of a lepecific plan for open spac for adjacent condominium development, located on east side of Jerez Court between Gibral ter Street and the La Costa -Golf Cours zoned P-C.
Paul Williams gave the staff report for this item covering
background information, EIR information and stafP recommendation
Public Hearing was opened and Mr. Jack Raines of Rick Engineering Co., 509 Elm Avenue, spoke to the Planning Commissio Mr. Raines stated he was in agreement with the conditions as proposed by Staff and has no sbJectIon to approval as such. He .stated the exact development has not yet been formalized.
With no further questions from the Commissioners and noone else wishing to be heard in this matter, a motion was made that Specific Plan No. 130 for Donald R. Gray Construction Co. be. adopted with conditions of approval nos. 1-10 as outlined in staff report.
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(e) CASE NO. ZC-123 - ROBERT D. AND B. J. STOCKTON: Request for a change of zone from R-1 to RD-M on property located at 390 Chinquapin Avenue, Carlsbad. Paul Williams, Associate Planner gave the staff report, explaining it was not even possible to process this application because it is an illegal lot split, and the property is land-locked. He explained that there is only access by a 20 ft, easement extending to Chinquapi
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even be brought before the Commission as it is an illegal lot
spl it -andrfeelst itniaS!.out of ordkr fowthe .Cotmission to have
to act on the application. The City Attorney explained that even though staff may or may not agree with the-request of a property owner, .it was their obligation to accept the applicatio and the fees, advise the owner of thei-r recommendations. It was also the obligation of the staff to bring it before the Commission. Pub1 ic Hearing was opened and Mr. Stockton (Robert) of 1759 Monte Vista Drive in Vista, California, spoke advising he understood the objections of staff and stated no plans to develop this property had been submitted. He felt it would be best to utilize the 20 ft. easement on this.property. He stated he is not asking for a permit to build, but as the property stands at the present time, the property is of no use to anyone.
Commissioner Little questioned the need for this item to
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Commissioner'Dominguez asked the applicant if he was trying to get rezoning in order to effect the sale of the property. The applicant replied positive, and was advised that this could not be a condition of a sale in an escrow. There was very little more discussion on this item as the Staff recommended denial and the Commission was in accord.
Motion was made to DENY this request for a change of zone for the reasons as outlined in staff report.
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(f) CASE NO. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 88.- Request for a Conditional Use Permit to establish existing auto storage and dismantling yard and expand the area of the present facility. APPLICANT: JOSEPH J. MARTIN & MATTHEW HALL - (A-1 Towing), said property located on west side of Tyler Street, across from westerly terminus of Pine Avenue. (Zoned M (Industrial)
and advised the Commission that the A-1 Towing business has been operating since before the requirement of a C.U.P., th'us, it is operating as a non-conforming use. This request would legalize the use and a1 low the expansion of the area to the sogth.
Michael Zander, Assistant Planner gave the staff report,
Commissioner Little asked the Planning Director if the total area had been relooked at for reasons of replanning. The Planning Director stated it had not, but there would probably be some rezoning "done further south from that area.
Public Hearing was opened and Mr. Matthew Hall, applicant,
of 3802 Adam St. addressed the Commissioners.explaining reasons they were needing the C.U.P. and the expanded room at their present address. He stated they now dispose of approximately 75 cars per month, and keep a vehicle for dismantling approximat 30 (lays.
There were no questions from the Commissioners, and with noone else wishing to be heard from the audience the public hearing was closed.
approved with conditions as specified in Staff Report. Motion was made that Conditional Use Permit #88 be
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(9) CASE NO. VARIANCE-228 - WILLIAM THOMAS PRICE Request for a Variance to a1 low a panhandle lot spl it on property 1 ocated on the south side of Forest Avenue between Olive Drive and Highland Drive - address being 1355 Forest Avenue, zoned R-1 (Single-Family).
Assistant Planner Mike Zander gave the staff report for this-request. Staff made the recommendation for denial of this request because the panhandle lot does not comply with. City policies, zoning violations would be created and no extraordinar, circumstances are applicable that do not apply to other property
Mr. William Price, 1355 Forrest Street, Carlsbad, spoke to the Commissioners and explained further the points he felt needed to be clarified which makes his request understandable. He explained how he had put a guest house on parcel and how he hopedcto bblJd'.on the back of the lot and leave the guest house..
Commissioner Dominguez asked the applicant if any alternat had been presented to him on this request, especially since it seemed as though there must be some way, with 2 parcels, the variance could possibly be granted. The applicant advised that staff had not presented him with alternatives that could suit his purpose.
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With no further discussion from the Commissioners or the applica
a motion was made to continue this i,tem to the next regular meet of the Planning Commission to be held on July 24, 1973, to alloh more time for staff and the applicant to work out a possible alternative to accomplish this Variance request.
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9:15 P.M. At this point, the Chairman, E. W. Dominguez, called a recess
for - 10 minutes. The Commissioh meeting continued at 9:25 P.M..
(h) CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 50-A - RICHARD L. HAUGEN '( Raydist Tower). Request for C.U.P. to allow the continued use of a radio transmittvjng antenna and building to house transmitters, on property generally located on east side of Carlsbad Blvd. between Pal omar Airport Road and Solamar Mobile Home Park.
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Public Hearing was opened and no one wished to speak for or against this request.
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(i> CASE NOS- ZQNE CHANGE-121, SPECIFIC.PLAN NO. 126 - ROBERT L. WATSON: - Request for a Change of Zone from, R-1 & C-1 to
C-2 and adoption of a specific' plan and amendment to City of
Carl shad General Plan to a1 low for a shopping Mal 1 on property generally located on southeast corner of Elm Avenue and Pi0 Pic0 Drive.
Pub1 ic Hearing was opened and Robert Watson , P.O.Box 275
Carlsbad, California, applicant, spoke before the Commission describing his project. Mr. Watson reiterated his desire to
work in every.way possible to keep the major portion of the traffic away from the corner of Elm Avenue and Pi0 Pic0 by
moving the proposed building to the front of the lot, thus
placing the parking in the back, using the existing parking lot
to a dual purpose, to serve. the Wayside Inn and the new Mall. Parking proposed is i.n excess of the Ordinance requirements. Mr.
Watson stated he is in accordance with all the recommendations
and conditions stated in the staff report. Commissioner Casler
inquired if the planter areas would, be planted as well as having
a 6 ft. high fence, and was assured both items are going to be
carried out as planned.
The Commissioners held a discussion on the proposed projec
from the view of changing the zone at this point as this is in
the "critical planning area" of the city, and it was felt that
with the upcoming revision in the general plan which is going
to deal quite extensively with the zoning, etc. of this ar.ea of the city, that this particular area be given a long hard look and alot of consideration before any action is taken on an) one particular project.
Motion was made that Zone Change 121 and Specific Plan 126
be tabled until such time as the General Plan is complete, as
recomnended by staff.
As this motion did not carry, Commissioner Dominguet
suggested that Commissioner Wrench, who was.not present for this
meeting, be advised to listen to the tape of this portion of the
meeting and bring the item up at next meeting and get an opinior
from Mr. Wrench.
A motion was made to continue Zone Change 121 and Speciftc
Plan 126, with the request that it be brought up at first meetir
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in August, August 14, 1973, and Mr. Wrench make ,himself availabl
to listen to tapes of this part of the meeting whdch will make
him eligible to vote on this i tern at the August 14 , 1973 meeting
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(j) ZONE CHANGE-122 and SPECIFIC PLAN -127 - THE MALONE COMPANY.
Request for a change of zone from R-3 to C-2 and a specifi
plan to allow the commercial offices, on property generally
located on the northeast corner of the intersection of Pi0 Pic0
Drive and Oak Street.
Associate Planner Williams gave the staff report
covering the zone change, specific plan, staff recommendations,
and adding one more condition - #19 .“The range of uses for the
proposed development should be limited to those uses normally
found in professional office facilities”.
Mr. William Rick, Rick Engineering, 509 Elm Avenue,
addressed the Commission and further explained their -applicatio and reasons for selecting this particular property on which to build. Mr. Rick stated this property cbmes closest to meeting their immediate and future needs, and since they. were worktng so closely with personnel in City Hall, they felt they would
1 i ke to be close to the Civic Center a1 so. They will need
ready freeway access, and they. will be joint venture partners
with Malone Company, and stated they agree with the conditions
contained in the staff report.
Mrs. C1 eona 0’ Bryant! , 11 55 Oak Avenue, Carl sbad , spoke in favor of this project. She said she had spoken to most of the residents in the area and they were agreed that the proposed
office building was an appropriate use for the area, and they would like to see architectural designs comparab1.e to those used by Mr. Watson of the Wayside Inn. She feels parking is
we1 1 out1 ined, and hopes the new buildings will he1 p to buffer
some of the freeway noise.
Public Hearing was closed and Commissioner Palmateer suggested that this project be rezoned to coincide with the Watson project, and feels we should wait for the Critical Planning Issues to be settled before any decision is made.
After a brief discussion of this item, a motion was made to continue this item to the meeting of August 14, 1973 to coincide with the Robert Watson application.
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(k) CASE NO. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT-115 - Request to consider
General Plan Amendment, Land Use Portion, to change existing
residential estate low density (0-2 d.u./acre) residential
low- density (3-7. d.u./acre) , tourist resort and neighborhood
commercial (C-2) to residential low densit (0-5 d.u./acre) and residential medium density (0-10 d.u./acref - RANCHO LA COSTA
A LIMITED PARTNERSHIP, on portions of land in Sections 22, 26,
27, 28 and 25, North of Batiquitos Lagoon, between El Camino Real.and.Interstate 5, South of Palomar Airport Road.
Planning Director gave the staff report for this request for an amendment to the General Plan to change the densities. . After questions from the Commissioners regarding the densities involved, and Item 6(a) on the agenda, which was a report on the appeal by Mr. Ayres to the City Council and the Council’s subsequent action, the Commissioners and Planning Director agreed the two items should and could be corisidered at the same time as they were interrelated.
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Item 5(k) and 6(a) were; at this point, discussed together.
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After giving the re ort, Mr. Agatep advised the Commissioners there were three (3 !i possible alternatives to choose from for their action:
to deny subject request. 1. Adhere to their original Planning Qommission decision
2. Adopt the City Council approval. 3. Adopt City Council approval, with modifications.
Mr. Agatep advised the Commissioners that their decis.ion tonight would be a "position statement" to the City Council, and when forwarded to the Council would be formally acted upon.
Public Hearings were opened for the General Plan Amendment and Mr. Donald Dawson, South Bay Engineering spoke. Mr. Dawson explained their appeal as it went to the City Council, and advisl that they were in agreement with the findings of the City Counci
Ad Hoc Committee which had been appointed to investigate further the appeal of the zoning. He also discussed briefly the sewer lines to be placed in the complete project, and stated they needed to know some definite densities so they would have an idea as to how big the sewer capacity would have to be.
Mr. Ayres spoke to the Commissioners and completely out1 ined the plans for the 1100 plus acres as it had been previously presented. He.i'nformed the Commissioners that he had spent much money and time (amounting .to several years) in putting together a plan for this acreage and applying for annexation to the City of Carl2bad, and he felt enough time had been spent in this regard, now he is anxious to get started with the first phases of building. He feels the densities should be as first stated, and the general plan amendment is necessary to accommodate this desire.
Commissioner Dominguez suggested that the Commission could recommend to the City Council that they a1 low the General Plan Amendment for that area on which they have filed a Tentative Map, and ask that the rest be held in a P-C zone witho a Master Plan. Don'AgBtep; Planning-Direktor, advised if that were the recommendation to the City Council, then there would be no need for a General Plan Amendment. The Commissioners stated they felt this was a premature bit of development. Commissioner Jose stated they could consider specifying the east and west portions as P-C without a Master Plan on 700 acres and ignore the general plan amendment, and send back to the City Council.
After considerable further discussion on this .item, there was a motion made by Commissioner Palmateer that they recommend to the, City Council that devel opment be permitted to go ahead here and also in Rancho La Cuesta, and specify this as being in the interim General Plan for La Costa, and whatever means have been used, then we use or suggest whatever means necessary to hold-the rest under this application in a holding zone.
After this motion was voted upon, it was pointed out that the boundaries of this recommendation are going to be the R-1-7500 to the west, and the area encompassed by Rancho La Cuesta tentative map to the east. The RD-M section is to be placed in P-C zone without densities. The only densities recognized will be in the R-1-7500 and Rancho La Cuesta portton.
There was no recommendation for a General Plan Amendment.
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7(d) 'Report - Review of Proposed Street Naming Policy.
Planning Director D. A. Agatep read the Street Naming Pol icy as it had been presented to the Commissioners, and stated that they were to give their approval in concept to (1) approve the geolographical area classifications for street names in areas 1-7.
(2) approval in concept of the street naming policy.
Mr:Agatep advised the Commissioners that if they approve in concept the Street Naming Policy as had been presented to them, then the Planning Department would come back with an absolute Resolution of the Planning Commission stating it becomes their p~1 icy to treat street naming in a particular way (as approved tonight), and any areas that require Ordinance Revisions will be brought back to the Planning Commission and then forwarded to the City Council for action.
Motion was made that the Planning Commission does approve in concept with the proposed Street Naming Police and the Planning Department staff complete the.Resolution and bring back to the Commission.
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ADJOURNMENT:
By proper motion, the Planning Commission meeting of July 10, 1973 was adjaurned to Friday, July 20, 1973. Adjournment came at 12:20 A..M.
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