HomeMy WebLinkAbout1973-07-24; Planning Commission; MinutesCITY OF CARLSBAD
MEETING OF: PLANNING COMMISSION DATE: JULY 24, 1973 TIME: 7:30 P.M. PLACE: CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL: All commissioners were present.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes for the Meetinq of Ju1.y 10, 1973 were approved' as presented.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATION: None
ORAL COMMUNICATION:
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
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(a) CASE NOS. ZC-113 & SP-113 - Request for Chanse of
Zone and Adoption of Specific Plan - M.S.HUMPHREY
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A letter was presented from the applicant's attorney requesting withdrawal of this application and that fee submitted therefor be held for future filing. The motion made to table this €tern carried.
(b) CASE NOS. EIS-106.and CT 72-34 - Request for Acceptance of E.I.S. and Consideration of Tentati Map for 478 units-NEWPORT SHORES BUILDERS (Ranchc La Cuesta)-Portion Sauth one-half Section 26, Wes of El Camino Real between Alga Road and Arena1 Road - R-1-7500 (Single family) RD-M (Residential Density-Multiple) and C-1 (Commercial):
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Secretary Agatep read a letter from the Carlsbad Unifi School District advising the Commission of the receipt of an agreement from Donald B. Ayres, Jr..(Newport Shores Builders) re: schools and this project.
Mr. Zander gave the Staff report discussing the E.I.S. and the Tentative Map for the project. He informed tt- Commission that the EIR submitted for the project was supplemental information since the EIR for the entire Ayres Annexation had been previously approved. The Tentative Map for this project was completed prior to the submittal of EIR 114 (Ayres Annex.) and informatic submitted at that time was considered adequate. Staff recommended acceptance of supplemental report and ap- proval of Tentative Map subject-to.comdition's-oat3tned in report.
There were several questions of Staff by the Commissic including open-space easements, parks-in-lieu fees as .opposed to land dedication, access rights and a covere archway over Arena1 Road (not approved).
Donald Dawson, South Bay Engineerfigg, applicant's re- presentative, addressed the commission advising them that applicant was in agreement with recommendations of Staff. He requested relief re; the installation of traffic signals at the intersection of Alga Road and El Camino Real and a reduction in right-of-way from 102' to 84',if at all possible, access within 500' of. El Camino Real on Alga Road to gain entrance to the commercial portion and a reduction from 50' to 40' on the cul-de-sac. It was explained by Chief Anear, at this time, that the 50' was required to enable the fire trucks to turn around in the cul-de-sacs.
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Mr. Donald B. Ayres, Jr. appeared briefly before the Commission. He informed him that the single story residences were to be in the $30-40,000 range.
Mr. Max Amoss, 4810 Kelly Drive, Carlsbad, had a ques- tion regarding school sites and where they were to be located in relation to the project.
There was no one else to speak in favor of, or againsl the application and the public hearing was closed at 8:30.
A lengthy discussion followed with questions by the Commission regarding underground utilities, circulatic (and the need for completion ofrthe General Plan Circt lation Element) and need for traffic siqnal. The Come! mission was then 'advised:byuMF. Agatep that the only action that needed to be taken on this application wa! with regard to the Tentative Map, that the EIS was on' supplemental information to the- BIR which had already' been approved for the entire project. A motion was then made for approval of the application sub.ject to the conditions of the Staff report as amended or dele1 by the Commission. The motion carried.
(c) CASE NO. VARIANCE V'-228 - Req'uest for Considerat. of Variance to allow- Panhandle Lot Split - WILLIAM THOMAS PRICE- Portion Section 31 - South side of Forest Avenue between Olive Drive and Highland Drive (1355- Forest Avenue) - Zoned R-1 """"""""""""""""""""""""""-
Mr. Zander gave the staff report outlining the appli- cants request for a variance to allow a panhandle lot He advised that the proposed panhandle lot conformed to the City';s policy re: panhandle lot and met the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance after revisions by Staff.
Mr. Agatep explained, at this time, that the Commissii should consider two variances for this applicant; 1) the variance to allow the panhandle lot; and 2) to grant a variance by reducing the side yard requiremen- from 5 ft. to 24 ft. for that'portion only adjoining the guesthouse.
During the discussion by the Commission questions werc asked re:parks-in-lieu fees for an application of thi! type..
The public hearing was opened and William T. Price, 1355 Forest, the applicant, advised that he was presel shauld, there be any further questions. He also ex- pressed his thanks to staff for.their help with the revision.
There was no one present to speak in favor of, or in opposition to, the application and the public hearing was closed at 8:45.
Without further discussion, a motion.was made to ap- . prove the variance request with the addition of-the second variance suggested by staff. The motion carried.
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(d) ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT NO. EIS-191- Consider tion of a Final Environmental 1mpac.t Report - BLUE MAX LIMITED (.J.F. 81 Suzanne Bear) -Bella Vis Map 2152, Block D- south of the intersection of Adams Street and Highland Drive on the north shor of Agua Hedionda Lagoon - Zoned R-T and R-1-75
Mr. Agatep advised the Commission that th'is EIS was being presented without further development plans havi been submitted by the .applicant. He ask,ed the Commiss if they approved of considering the EIS in this manner
Ther.e was a .short discussion by the Commission and it was agreed that development plans should be presented along with the EIS before consideration woaldfbe:gilgn
Mr. Bill Rick, Rick' Engineering Co., 509 Elm Avenue, expressed concurrence with the suggesfion of the Plan- ning Commission that this item be tabled until other plans are ready to submit. A motion made to this effect carried.
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(e) CASE NOS. EIS-172., ZC-124 and MP-128 - Request for Acceptance of a. Final Environmental Impact Report, Approval of a Change 'of Zone and Adoppion of a Master Plan for- an ultimate total of 3,859 dwelling units and a 125 acre golf course -MARVIN KRATTER (John Mamaux,) - Portion of Sections 23,24 25, and 26, T-12-S, R-4-W, north of Alga Road, east of El Camino Real, west of C.arrillo Ranch, a
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Mr. Zander gave the staff report outlining the comment and recommendations of staff re: this application whic would add some 3,859 dwelling units: Correspondence relative to this develoqment was read by Secretary Agatep at this time and prior to the completion of the staff report by Mr. Zander. Consideration was given to the EIR and Staff recommended acceptance . Approval was recommended for the zone change request also. The Master Plan was discussed by Staff and four alternativ courses of action were made with the recommendation that adoption of a Master Plan for this development be tabled to allow at least one month for revision and review.' The Master Plan, as presented, did not conform to the density and circulation requirements of the existing General Plan.
The public hearing was opened and John Mamaux, 1393 Basswood, Chrlsbhd, the applicant's representative addressed the Commission re: the plans for the Kratter
development. He discussed location and cost of resi- dential lots, plans for private club, circulation within thetdevelopment (including a letter from traffi consultants (Voorhees) and projected plans for circu- lation around this development, planned-requested densities (5.3 du/ac.).
There were several questions from the Commission, in- cluding reasons for school.'sites being located out- side<-the walls of the development, if sites had 6een agreed upon between the developer and the school dts- tricts, locations (if any) of archaeologfcal sites an developers plans in that regard. A question was rais
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re: the relationship of this project to the flood plai
in the area.
Mr. R. Miles, 2014 Cleta Court, Rancho La Costa, apoea before the Commission to speak in favor of the project as a significant contribution to the City.
Mr. Max Amoss, 4810 Kelly Drive, Carlsbad, voiced his concern regarding density and schools.
Mr. Emley, 1124 Blue Saae, San Marcos, advised that he was not apposed to the project, but questioned the height planned for the wall.
Mr.Max Lynn, Carlsbad Properties, Carlsbad, urqed the Commission to approve the application.
Mr. Marvin Kratter, applicant, addressed the Commissi assuring them of his willingness to cooperate in every way re;schools. He commended the Staff for their work and advised that he was amenable to conditions re:scho
Mrs. Katherine Einum, Monroe St., Carlsbad, expressed her opposition to building in general to the Commissio
Mr. Donald Panska, 4265 Skyline, stated that the City Council and Planning Commission should adopt criteria that each development should pay its own way.
There being no one else present infavor of, or in oppo sition to the application, the public hearing was clos at 1O:OO P.M.
The discussion which followed included questions to Staff regarding the circulation problems which had not been solved (Poinsettia) and the need of further time by Staff as recommended in their report, and problems regarding density, as requested by the applicant or as recommended by Staff.
Further discussion regarding schools resulted in a minute motion to include standard condition re:schools in the specific plan stage for this project.
At this time, Commissfoner Palmateer recommended that this item be tabled until the General Plan is complete
Chairman Dominguez then called for a vote and motion was first made to accept the Final EIR. The motion carried. A motion was then made for approval of the request for Change of Zone and the motion carried.
A short discussion took place before action reqarding the Master Plan application. Commissioner Forman com- mented that the circulation element did not conform tc the present General Plan, with concurrence from Com- missioner Wrench. Commissioner Little commented that the project was unique in that it would not require5 all services provided other developments.
Motion was made at this time for continuance of this item for further consultation between Staff and the applicant. There was no second and the motion failed. A:motion was then made to accept density of 5.3 as requested by the applicant and refer circulation eleme problems back to Staff. This motion was withdrawn. A motion was made for approval subject to the addition
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of the standard.condition re:school-agreements and the agreement between Staff, applicant and consultant re: the alignment of Poinsettia Lane (choose' the best alte! native) with the stipulation in the Master Plan for ap, proval of the circulation system at the Specific P.lan stage.
At this time, Mr. Agatep advised the Commission of the need for Resolution of Intention to Amend the General Plan with regard to densities for this application- Motion made to this effect carried.
Chairman recessed the meeting at 10:50 and all those present at the time of recess were again present when the meeting reconvened at 11:OO P.M.
(f) CASE NOS.EIS-111, ZC-117 and CT 72-38 - Reauest for Acceptance of Final Environmental Impact Repol Approval of a Change of Zone and Consideration of Tentative Map (CT 72-37 Not Public Hearing) to allow a 51 unit concominium'complex - F.J. &SUZANI BEAR (Seaview) -Portion of Block I and Block H, Palisades - easterly of Carlsbad Blvd., between Tamarack Avenue and Sequoia Avenue- From R-2 (Two Family Residential) and R-3 (Multiple-Family Resi. dential) to RD-M (Residential Density-Multiple)
Th.e Chair was turned over to Vice-chairman Jose for th
The Staff report was made by Mr. Williams, and containt a review of the EIS with Staff's recommendation for acceptance. Staff also recommended approval of the re. quest for change of zone. Mr. Williams advfsed that tl requested Tentative Map was found to be in non-conform; with the adopted General Plan and that Staff recommendr denial.
There was a short discussion before the public hearing opened regarding the need for Tamarack to be increased from 21 feet to 42 feet wide.
Mr. Wm. Rick, Rick Eng. Coy 509 Elm Avenue, Carlsbad, applicant's representative, addressed the Commission regarding the recommendations and conditions outlined by Staff and advised that he thought the Developer was being asked to do too much.
There was no one present to speak in favor of the application.
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Mr. Larry Tennerstet, 3941 Garfield, who presented a petition opposing the Change of Zone. (He also present1 another petition at this time, for the record, in oppo, sition to the application for the Beach & Tennis Club)
Mr. M. Ryan, 152 Sequoia, directed her oppostion to the possible closing of Sequoia Avenue.
Mr. Fred Harris, 773 Camellia Place, addressed the Corn. mission advising them of his concern for the widening
of a public street without first holdjng a public hearing.
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'There being: RS' ow& else present to speak either for or against the application, the public hearing was closed at 11:40 P.M.
During the discussion that followed several questions were directed to Staff regarding densities and the contact with the school district regarding agreement.
A motion was then made to accept?! the Final Report. The motion carr
A motion followed for approval of change and the motion carried.
the EIS' submitted as ied.
the requested zone
The motion on the request for consideration of a tenta tive map for the project called for continuance to August 14 to provide time for Staff to set out conditi for approval in addition to their recommendation for denial of the project. The motion carried.
(9) CASE NOS. EIS-167, SP-116 and CT 73-20 - Request for Acceptance of Final Environmental Impact Repc Adoption of Specific Plan, and consideration of Tentative Map to allow a 4-lot, 727 dwelling uni condominium development on 100 gross acres (Spanish Village West) LA COSTA LAND CO. """"""""""""""""""""""""""-
There was a request for cont5nuance on this item for the period of one month. Motion was made continuing to August 28, 1973 and'the motion carried.
(h) CASE NOS EIS-189, ZC-120 and MP-125 - Request for Acceptance of Final Environmental Report, Approval of Charlge of Zone and Adoption of Master Plan to allow a 156 single family subdivision anc an approximate 135 unit townhouse development on 79 acres - A. SOMMERS (El Camino Portals)- Portic Lots I&E, Rancho Agua Hedionda - Easterly of and adjacent to El Camino Rea1,'easterly of the pres€ easterly most extension of Trieste Drive - From A-1-8 (County) to P-C (Planned Community) and R-1-75 (Single Family).
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The Staff report was made by Mr. Williams. It includc Staff's review of the EIS submitted for the project which outlined several items not included in the repor submitted by the applicant . The report discussed the request for change of zone and Staff's reasons for recommerlding approval to all P-C instead of P-C and R-1-75, this recommendation applying to the total de-
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296 to 264.
Mr. Amos Sommers, 83 Center Drive, San Diego, add'ressf the Commission re: his application and explained' hjs, reasons for requesting the zoning on 'h.is appl.Tcation-. Instead of the P-C Zoning-recommended 6y Staff.
There was no one present to speak in favor of the application.
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Those present to speak in opposition to the appliCati0 were:.
1. P.K. Henderson, 4815 Sierra Morena, Carlsbad, who presented a petition of resldents in the area ob- jecting to the project. 2. Max Amoss, 4810 Kelly Drive, suggested that the City hire its own people to write the EIR's. 3. Gail S. Tyce, 3817 Sierra Morena, questioning the EIR and information regarding same. 4. Darlene Corley, 3823 Sierra Morena, objecting to entire project.
There was no one else present to speak either for, or in opposition to, the project and the public hearing was closed at 12:55 P.M.
After discussion by the Commission re: Stiaff's recom- mendations, a motion was made to accept the EIS as the Final Report for the project and the motion carried.
A motion followed to approve the Change of Zone as recommended by Staff. The motion carried.
The motion made to table the request for adoption of e Master Plan for the project carried.
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NEW BUSINESS:
(a) CASE NO. CT 72-34 NEWPORT SHORES BUILDERS (b) CASE NO. 72-38 F.J. & SUZANNE BEAR (Seaview) (c) CASE NO. 73-20 LA COSTA LAND CO.(Span.Village I
The Items (a), (b) and (c) under new business were considered along with oOher applications under Public Hearings.
(d) CASE NO CT 73-13 - Request for Consideration of Tentative Map (Richard Russell), to allow an 87 unit condominium developemtn on Tracts 220 and 224 of Thum Lands, located on the south side of Walnut Avenue between Lincoln Street and the AT&SF Railroad right-of-way, Zoned R-3. """"""""""""""""""""-"""""".
Mr. Zander made the Staff report outlinjng their reasons and Conditions for approval of the proposed project .
After a short discussion, a motion was made for ap- proval as outlined in the Staff report. The motion carried.
LATE ITEMS: The La Costa EIS was presented to the Commission.for their information.
Mr. Agatep reported on the City Council's action re: General Plan Amendment for Ayres. Mr. Biondo advised that the Planning Commission adopt resolution for the amendment at this time rather than hold another publil hearing at a later date.
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zommissioner Jose moved that in view of City Council': Iction, a': Resolution be adopted amending the General "an . The motion carr'ied.
rhere was a short discussion regarding -! applicants Ittending the Planning Commission work shop meetings. ;ounsel advised that this was improper and the Commiss- in turn advised that this happened on rgre occasions. 9r. Biondo then offered to. supply information from :ounty Counsel and the Board of Supervisors regarding the conduct, and what is expected of public hearings.
It was suggested that the workshop meetings be utilizec For purposes of discussing other than agenda items.
It was moved that the meeting be adjourned to the City :ouncil Chambers, at 9:00 A.M. on the morning of lugust 10, 1973, for the purpose of holding a work shol session and the motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 1:30 A.M.
?espectfully submitted,
"iz Eskk , Recording Secretary
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