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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1973-09-25; Planning Commission; Minutesf-+ 7 'ht,: _.. r . .. *.,.* ." ._ P" 6 .,& ..I c q,(-p-;:,.; '.,.. b:,*,ld"J " 'k-4 i )I - -. . ~ *.- -.. . - ._- - ; i41,5., \ , e::-; . MEETING OF: CITY OF CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION TIME: 7:.30 P.M. -.', :, i,L+.-<q2\- PLACE : City Counci 1 Chambers DATE : September 25, 1973 -!$':;Li ..>,, -2, '; , , \ ;- !'# 1.5 1,;- ' ._- , " ; ,,A; L 7 .\ '. .c .." - . , .. - 7 ..& i ;&-i*y,L- , c: y :$?, 3. ', .%! 1 .> ' :i-T:'..-~Q+!, . , , .l& ,. ". I . -.". I " .. "* * _.-. . " .- CALL TO ORDER i i ; f ROLL CALL: Commissioner Palmateer was absent. I Present: APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of August 14, 1973 meeting were f Motion: i approved as amended. I ?. i I Minutes'of August 28, 1973 meeting were I Minutes of September 11 , 1973 meeting were I i approved as submitted. approved as submitted. i f WRITTEN COWlUNICATIONS: NONE I ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: Commissioner Jose stated he had observed 1 the NO LEFT TURN sign placed at the east entrance of the Standard Station on Elm Avenue, and found that it was a particularly dangerous situation with persons making that turn at night. He inquired of the City Engineer if it would be possible to place reflectors on the NO LEFT TURN portion of that sign, for safety sake. The City Engineer stated he would look into the matter and report back to Comnissioner Jose in the near future. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 5(a) CONTINUED: E.I.S.#190, Specific Plan-129, CT 73-26, 'for ALGA HILLS: Request for acceptance of Final Environmental Impact Report, Adoption of a Specific Plan and consideration of Tentative Map, to allow a 408 unit condominium development on 66 acres of land, generally located at the southeast intersection of A1 ga Road and A1 icante Road , suhi tted by LA COSTA LAND CO. The Planning Director read a request by Staff to Table this item as the parks program and possible redesign for this project had not as yet been accomplishedr Mr. Robert Ladwig, representing the applicant, 509 Elm Avenue, advised the Commission they were in agreement with the request to Table. Motion was made that E.I.S.#190, Specific Plan#129 and Motion: Tentative Map CT 73-26 be Tabled. Ayes : """""""""""""""""-"""""""""""""""" (b) CONTINUED: EIS-197, Specific Plan-135 and CT 73-23, for HESTER DEVELOPMENT CO. - Request for acceptance of Final Environmental Impact Report, adoption of a Specific Plan and consideration of a Tentative Map to allow for a 190 unit condominium development, on property 'located at the northeast i i icorner of the intersection of Lowder Lane and Poinsettia Lane. Associate Planner, Paul Williams gave the Staff report and 1 an additional report which was prepared 9-25-73 recommending this ! item be tabled. He explained the.Master Plan map for this project ' 'and stated he .was not sure Lagoon Lane' should be extended as a part;, ,of this project. Commissioner Casler stated she felt Batiquitos i 'Lane should go half of the distance past the civic facilities, past the park and end at the Jr. High School site, otherwl'se, any cars 'going to the south will have a long way around to go. I i 1::; 1.: 22 .I ~. I ! *. i .* Page two i ?-- 1% Public Hearing was opened and Mr. Ken Wassman of Occidental Petroleum, 4201 Birch Street, Newport Beach, spoke giving a brief history of the project. He stated he felt they had worked very closely with staff, but were still not able to understand why a workable solution to some of the minor problems had not been worked out. He stated it was their feeling it was best for the the City if they would agree to dedicate both school sites an( all land not brought into the development, for park sites. He stated that the requirement for 59 ft. half street improvements to Poinsettia as opposed to 51 ft, had possibly come about as it was felt the State may require 6 lane development in that area. Mr. Wassman stated he did not feel they should have to improve any property that was dedicated to the City. Mr. Agatep advised that the precedent for improved property dedicated to the City was set by developments such as Tanglewood and Carl s bad Pal i sades. Commissioners Dominguez and Jose suggested this matter should be given more time tor Occidental/Hester and staff to go over the matters not yet felt resolved. Motion was made to continue E.I.S.#197, Specific Plan #135 and Tentative Map CT 73-23, to the regular meeting of October 23, 1973. ................................ (c) CASE NOS: Specific Plan#138 and Tentative Map CT 73-39, for SEA RANCH: Request for adoption of a Specific Plan and approval of a Tentative Map, to allow for a 331 lot subdivision on 80 plus acres of land generally located on the east side of Lagoon Lane between Poinsettia Road and Batiquitos Lagoon, application submitted by RANCHO LA COSTA. Paul Williams read the request to withdraw the Specific Plan, continue the Tentative Map, and advised the Commission the applicant would be submitting a request for a zone change. Mr::Robert Allan, Standard Pacific, 7670 Clairmont Mesa Blvd, representing the applicant, stated he concurred with staff recomnendations. Motion was made that Specific Plan #138 be withdrawn, and Tentative Map CT 73-39 be continued to October 9, 1973. ................................ a1 low' the development of a 11 7' condominium Gl't on 10.2 acres of land, generally located north of Tamarack Avenue and west of Jefferson Street. describing the project and giving conditions and recomnendations. He a1 so advised he had received a call from Mr. Fred Lance of the Carlsbad School District who advised him that there had been no agreement signed between the School District and- the applicant at .- Michael Zander, Assistant Planner gave the staff report " this time. 1 Motion: Ayes : IN : MOT 'Ia Ayes : 1 111 K K X X 1 X c 4 September 25, 1973 Page Three i i Commissioner Jose questioned the width of Tamarack, and as if the sewer lines would still be the same as in the original pla He also was informed there was a 28 ft. right-of-way as a circu- lation route within the project, and a 6 ft. high wall around the devel opment. Commissioner Casler questioned the adequacy of the parking spaces and was advised that the parking exceeds the requirements of the parking ordinance. The Public Hearing was opened, and Mr. John Crosswhite, from Pace. Engineering, representing applicant, advised that he concurred with the recomnendations of Staff. He suggested that the berm along the railroad track be used instead of the 6 ft. high fence. He stated Condition #1 did not show or refer to pati walls and fences, and stated they would put fences around each residence to create a private patio atmosphere. the Planning Director interjected that when this plan was first presented to the City, discussion was held regarding the park site at the north of the property, prior to the park bond issue last fall. The City was given the option of buying the property and fai 1 ed to do so. When asked about a park site to the north of the property, Public Hearing was closed and Commissioner Little stated he felt this particular development was more pallitable than the previous proposal that had been presented. He stated he felt for the safety of the people in the area, a fence along the top-of the berm should be mandatory.’ Attorney amended condition. #3. .No one else wished to speak, and the Public Hearing was closed. An amendment was read for Condition #1 and the City With no further discussion of this item, a motion was made that Ordinance 9283 be revoked, and Specific Plan-136 be approved per justifications and conditions 1-18, with conditions #1 and #3 as amended, and the request for deletion of fencing be denied . A second motion was made that Carlsbad Tract (CT 73-38) be approved for reasons outlined in staff report, per conditions 1-10 as outlined. Motion: Ayes : Mot i on Ayes : “”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””- (e) CASE NOS: Zone Change-122, and Specific Plan-127, for MALONE COMPANY/RICK ENGINEERING COMPANY, report on the outcome of an ADDeal to the City Council for a chanue of zone and reuuest for adoption of a Specihc Plan to allow for the construction of i office building to be located at the northeast corner of the intel section of Pi0 Pic0 Drive and Oak Drive. The Planning Director gave the staff report for this item, which was in the form of a memo outlining the action taken by the City Council for the appeal of the zone chan e. City Council stated they did feel thb zoni‘ng of Cw2 wou 9 d be compqttb’ wi‘th the ct%e center complex.: It was: mentioned as staff’s i general feeling that if the C-2 zoning is permitted, that the Cornmisston should recommend to the council that they adopt a combination district to limit certain kinds of development and their access to Elm. Avenue. Mr. Agatep also pointed out that thir i i 5 report would be appropo to the Colonial Mall application, and any ’ decision should be made concurrently with this report. I. i i Discussion was held regarding the signs for this project, and i mention was made that there is no way you can condition a change : ; i of zone with regard to signs, it must be done in the Specific 1 Plan. There was further discussion as to how and when the Planning L September 25 , 1973 Page Four Department would be instructed to initiate an Overlay Study for the Civic Center zone , and it was stated that the Planning Commission would have to adopt a Resolution instructing staff to do this study, and at this point in time, the only requirement to be complied with on this Change of Zone was a report back to the City Council on their action (Planning Commission action) takc this date. Motion was made to report back to the City Council that final action on the change of zone from R-3 to C-2 be taken , with justifications based on staff recommendations and con- siderations of the Planning Commission as outlined in memorandum presented this date. Motion was made that the Planning Commission adopt a Resolution instructtng-the Wanning staff to initiate action necessary to place the Civic Center Overlay Zone into being at the earliest possible date, and return before the Planning Commission not later than December 31, 1973. Public Hearing was opened and Mr. Bob Ladwig, Rick Engin- eering Company, representing the applicant, stated he was in agreement with the 19 conditions on the Specific Plan as had been prepared by staff. He .advised the Commission that they would not be placing any large signs on their building, and any signs they did use in the future would definitely conform to our sign ordinance as may be in effect at !that time. No one else ..:wished to be heard , and the pub1 ic hearing Motion was made that the Planning Commission adopt a was cl osed. resolution approving Specific Plan No. 127 for Malone Company, subject to conditions 1-19 as outlined in the staff report, and for the reasons stated qtherein. """"_"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" (fl CASE NOS: ZONE CHANGE:'#122, and- SPECIFIC PLAN-126 for COLONIAL MALL/ROBERT WATSON: Report on outcome of Appeal to the City Council for a change of zone from R-1 and C-1 to C-2 and adoption of a Specific Plan to allow construction of buildings to be used for a mixture of Commercial and Professional activities. The property is generally located on the southeast corner of Elm Avenue and Pi0 Pic0 Drive. Spectftc Plan appltcation, and referred to the memo stating the dtspositton of the zontng request Appeal that had been presented and approved by the City Council . For the Specific Plan appl icati he discussed staff recommendations regarding the imgress and egre: of the project, and stated it could possibly be coordinated with the Waysfde Inn, and if access is open onto .Elm Avenue, staff is recommending that access be given a right turn only. He also advised, in answer to a question from Commissioner Jose, that thi: prqject can not be considered freeway-oriented. The Planning Director have the Staff Report for this Public Heari-na was oDened and after a brief discussion ir of the project by Mr: Roberk Watson, Commissioner Wrench questionc as to whether or not the applicant would be willing to re-examine the balance of professional'vs. commercial businesses should the I i proportionate uses hot be suitable establishments-for the civic : ' center overlay zone. He asked if Mr. .Watson would restructure the i' program for his investors. Mr. Watson replied that the package f !had been put together for his investors exactly as it had been 'presented and an other avenues explored would have to be discussed ~wvh them, Mr. iatson stated he would be agreeable to re-discussiTg ; the proposal with his investors, but defl'nttely could not, tontgkt,; !state what common denmihator tfiey m-iiht come up wVAL < .> i Motion Ayes Motion Ayes : Motion: Ayes : 1 - r -_ September 25, 1973 Page Five Public Hearing was closed as no one else wished to speak, and after further brief discussion by the Commissioners, the followin1 ; Motions were made. Motion was made to adopt Resolution recommending to the City Council that final approval of the change of zone from R-1 and C-1 to C-2 be given for the Colonial Mall, and said Resolution to advise that the Planning Commission has instructed action be taken by Planning Staff to initiate preparation of a civic center overlay zone. ! j School closed District, and Mr. Ladwig was agreeable With no one else wishing- to speak, the' , and the following motions were made: to' this condition. Public Hearing was Motion was made that the Wbaaning Commission adopt a Resolution recommending approval to the City Council of Specific Plan #126, subject to conditions of approval 1-20 as presented, with Condition #4 being revised as read. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""- At this time there was a 10 minute recess called. Recall called at 9:40 P.M., the meeting continued at 9:50 P.M. """"""""""""""c-c-r"""""""""""""""""" 5(g) CASE NOS: E.1.S.-167, SPECIFIC PLAN-116 and CT 73-20, for SPANISH VILLAGE: Request for acceptance of the Final Environ- mental Impact Report, adoption of a Specific Plan and approval of a Tentative Map, to allow the construction of a 26 lot con- dominium development, said property generally located southerly of and adjacent to La Costa Avenue, immediately westerly of the present westerly most extension of Levante Street. Applicatton submitted by La Costa Land Company. Associate Planner Paul Williams gave the staff report and explained the Specific Plan Map for this project, as well as touching on the E.I.R. and Tentative Map portions also. Commissioner Casler inquired as to the school district for this project and was advised it was in Encinitas. Commissioner Jose inquired as to the slope of the open space, stating it was very unstable to be used for either a path or just visual effect. Public Hearing was opened and Mr. Robert Ladwig, Rick Engineering at 509 Elm Avenue, representing the Applicant, stated they felt thts roject does conform to the La Costa Plaster Plan and feels P!t ! 1 6elp wi'tFi €Re cl'rculatton element in that area. He state tw agree wi3i trie condttons as set forth, as &ell as the amende School condttton, and requested deletion of Condition #3 re. the subrntttal of tentative map for each unit. Commissioner Casler questioned the timing of this project and was advised that Unit #1 would be grading by January 1, 1974 and Unit #2 would start about 3-4 month thereafter. Commissioner Wrench asked if the applicant.was prepared to accept all other conditions pending approval of the tentative map and was advised positive. Commissioner Casler inquired as to the archeological site that had been discussed in the E.I.R. and was advised it had been salvaged. It was agreed by the Commissioners that they would like to have a formal agreement on -file between the Appl icant and the Motion -was made that the Planning Commission accept the f Final Environmental Impact Report for. SPANISH VILLAGE as presented and recommends that the City Council accept Final E.I.R.#167. ! Motion: Ayes : Motion: Ayes : Noes : MOTION: Ayes : .. I , I x ix September 25, 1973 Page Six. u ”.C*” ,,$ - ... ~. Motion was made that the Planning Commission adopt a Resolution recommending approval to the City Council of Specific Plan #119, with justification stated in the Staff Report and subject to conditions 1-12, having. deleted Conditton #3 and amending Condition #2. Motion was made that the Planning Commission adopt a Resolution recommending approval to the City Council of Tentative Map (CT 73-20) with conditions and justifications as stated in the Staff Report. ................................ UNFINISHED BUSINESS 6 (a) CONTINUED: CASE NO. 73-5, for LAGUNA RIVIERA NO. 8: Reques. for Consideration of a Tentative Map to allow a 39 lot single- family subdivis.i,on on property located westerly of El Camino Real northwesterly of Cordoba Place and on the east and west sides of Refugio Drive, submitted by Jerry L. Rombotis. Assistant Planner, Michael Zander gave the staff report for thl’s project and there were no specific questions by the Comml’sston. Commission and stated he was in agreement with the conditions Except Condition #2 referring to a 60 ft. stub street. The City Engineer stated that the City did not need this street and this condition could be deleted. It was so ordered. Mr. Jerry Rombotis, 3505 Charter Oak, addressed the With no one else wishing to speak, the following motion was made: Motion was made that the Planning Commission adopt a Resolution recommending to the City Council, approval of Tentativc Tract 73-5, subject to the conditions stated in Staff Report, with the deletion of Condition #2 and the addition of the standarc condition providing for underground utilities. ”””””””””””””””””””””””””””~~”~~”” NEW BUSINESS: 7(a) CASE NO: CT 73-28, for HERB HOPS: Request for approval of a Tentative Map to allow the development of a 16 condominium, unit on .8 acres of land, said land generally located on the south side of Gibralter Street, west of Romeria Street. Assistant Planner Zander gave the report for this item and there being no discussion by the Commission or Applicant, the following motion was made: Motion was made that the Planning Commission adopt a Resolution recommending to the City Council, approval of Tentativc Map CT 73-28, for the reasons and conditions outlined in the staff report. ””_””””””””””””””“”“”””””””””””””. LATE ITEMS: : The Planning Director read a memo that had been presented to , the Planning Commission from Planning. Department, advising that the City Council, at its meeting of September 18, 1973, con- ; sidering the appeal of a Specific Plan and Tentative Map for ‘ PONDEROSA HOMES, had requested that the Planning ,-Department ; submit a further memorandum to them clarifying the reasons for I the denial of subject applications. The Planning Commissioners i’ I J Motion: Ayes : Motion: Ayes : Motion: Ayes : Motion ; Ayes : I X; XIX " , -" I September 25, 1973 Page Seven discussed the many ways the Commission or the Planning Department could present a more definitive way of clarification to the City Council for items that have been denied and appealed. It was suggested possibly a Planning Commissioner could attend the meetings and state the reasons for denial, a more definitive report could be given, written or oral. After consideration discussion on this to ic, it was suggested that at the present time, on thl's particu P ar l'tem (Ponderosa Homes], that the Planntng Department present a more expll'cl't memorandum to the City Council. It was suggested that this matter be pursued further at the next workshop meeting. ADJOURNMENT : By proper motion, the Planning Commission did,ddt 11f15 P.1 hdjonrn their meeting to October 5, 1973, at 9:00 A.M., in the City Counci 1 Chambers. ................................ Respectfully submitted, A4"@ Dotty K1 i'ingman, Sr. Stenographer f ,MOTION: Ayes : x r .. ?> X X 1 ! X I