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Home My WebLink About1975-11-12; Planning Commission; Minutes. r- I CITY OF CARLJBAD MEETING OF: PLANNING COMMISSION DATE : November 12, 1975 TIME: 7:30 P.M. PLACE: COUNCIL CHAMBERS CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL APPRQVAL QF MINUTES The minu.tes of the October 29, 1975 Planning Com- mission Meeting were approved with the following amendment to the last-paragraph of Case No. SP-l35A, Occidental Land Company to include the following: "Inasmuch as the 28 foot setback behind the curb Rad been discussed at a prior meeting, it was part Q? t&!. CoqtMIbs-i.sn.'~ qcthn to insure th.qt a 28 foot Set.hck Wts mqintqi'ned in the deyelopment of the pro3ect.'1 r On page 5 of the Minutes, Case No. ZC-168, note that Commtssioner L'Heureux made t.he minute motion.. AQPR0VA.L OF RESOLUTIONS Res-oluti'on No. 1201, CUP-92A (Siege1 Brothers Inv.) Ap roved witti fol1owi:ng change^ on page 3, line 4, ch-ange ]'s.~coul to Uss.a11". - Resotut.i'on NO. 120.2, P-256, lRussell W. Gr0ss.e) Approved with following change on page 2, B(2) change R-A-2.5 to R-A-3.5. WRITTEN COMMUNITATIONS Planntng Dtre-ctor Don Agatep stated that he would 1fke to make. q Grtef presentati:on.at tfie end of tflts meeti-ng regardlhg h:i:ts meetixg the riyr week in San Francisco on Envfronmentai Imppc! R.eport l@tti:nq. . - ..- .. .. .. ... .- .. . . .. . Conttnued Case No. CT 75-7 and SP-171 [Green Valley Knolls), La Costa Land Company - Request for qpproval of a tentative map and speci.fic Dlan on '106 acres consist ing o'f 220 s'i:ngle Pamtly lots, 5 condominium lots qnd 2 o en s ace lots- east of El Cqmtno Real and $QUtk Q $! La .Qsta Auen.ue_. Assl'startt Plqnning Oi-rector Bud Plqnder gave the staff report stating that there was a subdivision' approved'on this property sometime ago, and that thi particular request is a new request in that the orTgi:nal shqll 6e deleted if this one is approved. TRts request involves a single family and multi- famt-lgh resi:den.tial areas separqted fjy the SDG&E ea smat. ,I .I c. CITY OF CARLBAD NEEITNG OF: PLANNING COMMI'SSION DATE : November 12, 1975 TIME: 7:30 P.M. PLACE: COUNCIL CHAMBERS Page 2 L Mr. Plender stated 'that the big concern with the staff regarding this particular application. were tRe so-called rivate park si:tes 1.n that it was felt th3t a,n area t E 7's. large skoul d hqve some ki:nd of actiye rercyeat-btwl qrea that the large green belt area wuld n.gt pravi'de. Th:e staW also recommended that stnce this is .a P-C zone, tfi.at the si,ngle family area be developed to tRe R-1 standards and the multi-famfly area be developed to the RD-M standards. TRere was tRen 4 great deal of' dtscusston among th"e C~mmiss-i~n.ers, Staef and Ci:ty Engfneer regarding open space maintenance districts, stop light at Levante and El Camino Real (the City Engineer ad- vised that this is a new tentative map over an old tentative map and that there is a bond in effect rtgfit now for a stop light at this intersection and so this condition Ras already been met). Mr. Bo.$ La.dwi~g of Ri:c.k Engtneering, Carlsbad read a letter addressed to the Commission from Russell L. KaldenBerg, Associate Envrronmental Scientist/ Archaeologfst, of R.ick Environmental Consultants regarding archaeological Test Excavation at Green Valley Knolls. He also stated that th,ey agreed with the conditions as set. forth in the staff report and that lot 221 would be set aside as a private park site. Mr. Fred Morey, Yike President, La Costa Land Company discussed lot 226 as'an open space area and lot 221 as a possible private park site' availabl to the people in that area. He also said-thatl.:they felt that open space maintenance should be done by taxati'on and maintai'ned 6y the City rather than by tk Romecswner's Assoctatton. He stated that addi- tional park sites and recreational facilities would be added hs there was a need for same. Th.ere was also discussion about regarding fencing 0n *efth&;side of the twenty foot pedestri:an ease- vents. Ft Ms maved and Etaproved to recOmmend approval of . SF-771 per s,tqff recommendations and cond1.tions with- th:e fo.llowing amendments: Candi ti.on #6, second 1 ihe, add 223 'to read ILand a portion of 'lots 223 an.d 2.27"; Condi:ti'.on. #7; reword last sentence to read "and lots 226' and 227''; Conditton #8, correct typograpktcal error in 1 i:ne 3: Condition #11, add to next. to 1 ast sentence "and approved by the Plan- nl'ng Dfrector."; Add Condition #13 - "Lot 221 Moti.on X sh3ll k rewvved for potenti:al use as a private Ayes X xxx par R s;i."te. Absent X X It was moved and approved to recommend approval of CT 75-7 per staff recommendati:on and conditions of staff report with ckanges to tke condttions to correspond wtth ckanges listed ahwe for SP-171 Also, add to Cendition #5 ''as requi'red by Muntcipal Ordi-nance and qs approved By th.e City Engfneer. Add Condi:.tion #27 - ''A Fond sh-all be posted for a Motion X si'grtal lfgbt at El Camino Real and Levante prior Ayes X XX) to ffnal trqct map approval. , 11 'I X X Absent .. ..- CITY OF CARLSBAD MEETING OF: PLANNING COMMISSION DATE: November 12, 1975 TIME: 7:30 P.M. PLACE: COUNCIL CHAMBERS Page 3 UNFPNTSHED BUSI'NESS Bossib1e.rezoning of land in the area of Park and Cove Drtves Assistant Planning Director Bud Plender gave tRe staff presen.tati.on. He stated' that at the Commisston*.s meeting of September 24, 1975 a varianc was denied regardi'ng panhandle lots in this area and the Commission asked the staff to study possible rezoning of this area and report bac-k at this time. The staff did a slope study and their analysis plus what some other cities are going (they are allowing less density than Carlsbad) led the staff to state that if there was any rezoning done in this area, they would tncrease the amount of land rather than decrease it. It was felt th.at R-1-15,000 was about as higfi a density as would be desirable. It was felt that this was more of a land division problem tkan a zonl'ng problem. Mr. f. 'E. Liddle of 2475 Jefferson, Carlsbad stated th.at he was quite confused as to how this property ' could be dfvided for development. The €ommission suggested that he get with staff and see what could.. be worked out. The Ptanntng Commissi.on agreed -with staff's recom- nen-drttiBn tbt tKe City. not rezone any portion of tKe studp qrea, at tRis ti'me; Possible amendment to ,ordinance to permit panhandle .- lots under certain ctrcumstances. Assistant Planning Director Bud Plender said that the staff had worked out an Ordinance amendment on how to handle. Pan- handle lots. Tkis Ordfnance has to be initiated by the Ctty Coun.ci:l. Mr. Plender suggested that . th:e Plann1hg Csmmissipn. revtepy tKe. proposed Zone Code Amertdrnent, qdd t&$r comments,'and then take e to tKe: C,B x CQun.cP1 SQ tlirat th.e Cttg" Counctl mighX diyect .rt h:e l?1 anning Comrn*si'Qn to study same. After d'iicussipn. €Getpreen staff and the Commi:ssioners a mi'nute notipn was made and ap roved that the re-, port E% sent to the City. Councl-! so that they might fnstruct tRe Plan.nTng Cornmisston to di:rect staff to paregare a z0n.e code amendment tkqt would go to puEC7 '1 c h3ar ixg. 1976 PlannTng 'Commission .Calendar -. Assistant Plan- ni'n.g Director Bud Plender gave the staff report . sayi'ng tkat we are now- currently processi'ng applica- tl'ons Eased upon a 34 day work. pertod. The staff felt that Efecause of additional requirements for EIRs tRat perkaps the 1976 Calendar should be based upon a 41 day- work eri'od rather than the 34 day work periBd. Mr. P B ender felt that the 34 day work per'iod was adequate. Plann~.g'Ri'rector Ran Agatep felt tkat tke 41 daf , work peri'od would be mope advantageous Eiecause of EIR requirements and that it would give th.e staff one additional week in which finalize the staff report, etc. lotion Lye s ibsent . .. . " .. 3 .. CITY OF CARLSAD - MEETING OF: PLANNING COMMISSION DATE: November 12, 1975 TIME: 7:3-0 P.M. PLACE: COUNCIL CHAMBERS I Page 4 A minute motion was. ma'de adopting ihe the'41 day work table. Rules and Pro'cedures for the implemen.tation of Ag- ricul tural Preserves - Planning Director Donald. tol d the Commtssion that this item should have een li'sted as an fnformation' item as no action is needed by the Commtssion'. This item is merely to inform tfie Commissfon that the Cl'ty of Carlsbad received a format request from a property owner to establi'sh an a.g preserve on a por$ion of his 'property. Because. of this request, 'the staff'has done an exhaustfye search on what we can do and. can't do, wh.etkep we have to joint venture it with t6e County or do tt iJndkpendently. Ne are going to CiTy Counci.1 so that they can adopt the rules and procedures for 4g"preserves. When we do, in fact, estah"l TsFi: an ag preserve on a piece or property, it wi.11 Sy nature have to come to the Planning Commis- si~on for BulYl Tc Heari ng . , Standard Condtti:ons and Development Polic'ies - This I'tem was taR.en off the agenda as it wi:11 go to the Cfty Counci:l first for their approval and then to the Planni'ng Commtsston for their approval. 1975 Specfal Census -. Planning Director Don Agatep advised the Commission that this was a rough cut of the 1975 Special Census data. A lot of the figures have not gone through. a qualitative, statistical analysis and there will be futher refi.nements. He potnted out tkat one trnportant part of this census programwas that all the cities participated in the selecti'on of the questions that were asked. This census was done by tfie County with all of the cities involved. Tkere Were two questi:ons that each city could state that they- wanted included tn their cen- sus and if all cities concurred, then these question laced i:n th.e questtonnaire.. It w-ill 6e approx I'mate y- anothIer year 6:efaore plre recewe a fi'nal census report. ' were ! ............ Changes tri Ti'tle 21 - Revised pages were given to the Commi:ssi~oners so tkat thrrgr mi'ght update their coptes of" tk CarlsGqd M,uni:cipal Cade. Plann'l'ng Commi:ssi'on .MeetTng on Novembey 26, 1975 Tt was announced that th.ere would be a Planning Commissi'on meeti:ng on Thanksgiving Eve at 7:30 P.M. Envtronmental Tmpa.ct .Report 'Wri:ting Conference Planning Dtrector Donald Agatep gave a brief report on thi's conference and stated there seemed to be a move statewide to. go to Master Environmental Impact Reports and were concerned about daing away with : the given tnformatton such as water, air, etc. and concentrattng on the real environmental analysis. i ADJOURNMENT ThTe meeti'ng was adjourned at 10:24 PqM. lotion 4yes 4bsent