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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1976-11-22; Planning Commission; Minutes~'cg~,-lr~.C,~.lb~,~~" ..*<-"- . . - ,;. .. 1- .. . . . - . _. .. . ~ -. :.I , - " -.-- *.:.:: , ., , .. . -, -. -. *. CfTY OF CARLABAD .a MEETING OF: PLANNIN'G COMMISSION DATE : November 22, 1976 TIME: 7:OO P.M. PLACE: courmL CHAMBERS CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 7:OO P.M. i ROLL CALL X X X X X X Present Commissioner Jose was absent with Commissioners Watson and Nelson arriving at 7:05 and 7:lO res- Abse.nt X pectively. . APPROVAL OF MINUTES Minutes of November 8, 1976 approved. .Mot i on X 4 Ayes Absent xx X X X X X APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS '. . . Resolution No. 1292, City of Carlsbad, CUP-60 approved. x Mot i on xx X X Ayes Absent X X x Resolution .No. 1293, Victor Fischer, CUP-127 - X Mot i on approved. Ayes Copies of Sa'n Marcos Canyon: Its Preser.vation and WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS xx xx x - Use and Supplemental Environmental Information for Rancheros de la Costa given to the Commission to review for future meeting. ORAL COMMUNICA.TIONS Chairman L'Heureux made the following' comments: . 1) Commissioners Fikes and Rombptis appointed Absent X X .. to serve on La Costa Economic Impact Report Consultant Interview Committee. 2) .Applicants.advised that four affirmative votes . were needed for approval or denial. ' 3) New hearing time of 7:OO-P..M. announced along with adjournment at midnight with last item to be entertained at. 11:OO P.M. - .. 4) Item #15 added-re Planning--€ommission Christ- "-" - mas hrty. PUBLIC HEARINGS " 1) Case No. GPA-40, Peggy R. Hadley - Request 'P-I (Planned Industr,ial) to RRE (Extensive Reg- . - for approval .of a General Plan Amendment from ional Retail ). Acting Planning Direc'tor Bud Plender gave the staff report stating that the staff recommended denial for the reasons outlined in the staff re- I . port.. .. The Commission then asked what this land would ! * be used for and were advised by Mr. Plender that the applicant had indicated a restaurant would be i built. He also said that. a restaurant could be also noted that.the restaurant would have to be f approval of a Conditional Use Permit. (It was i permitted under the present Specific'Plan with the area rather than the travelling public.) . oriented towards serving industrial business in i .I MEETING: PLANNING COMMISSION DATE : November 22, 1976 TIME: 7:OO P.M. PLACE: COUNCIL CHAMBERS Paae 3 '. The Commission then inquired about the traffic that would be generated by uses under the RRE designation as would be generated by the P-I desi nation. The Commission asked to see the traffic reports and also felt that the traffic generated by either designation would be about the same. Odors from the Encina Water Pollution Control Facility which are emi tted periodically were dis- cussed and how they would affect. future uses of the property in question. Commissioner Rombotis asked the question as to whether the occasional visitor should receive the odor or the daily worker. The Commission also discu,ssed 'the possibility of considering only that property on the west side c Paseo del Norte as RRE and leaving th.e property on the east side as P;I. It was noted for the record that the applicant was present along with her representatives. Nicholas C. Banche, Attorney at Law, 702 Fourth Street, Oce'anside, 'CA 92054 spoke on behalf of 'the applicant and asked that"the record for this application 'also .include the following: 'Planning Commission Resolution No. 776, Chapter 21.42 of the Ordinance of the City of Carlsbad, Chapter 21 32 of the Ordinance of the City of Carlsbad, Tit1 21 of the Ordinance of the C'ity of Carlsbad, the Land Use Eleme.nt of the General Plan, the appl i- cant's Environmental Impact Assessment , and the Planning Staff Memorandum of November 8, 1976. Mr. Banche asked that the land be designated as RRE and when zoned that a "Q." overlay be placed on same so that the Clty would review proposed projects for the area. He also Pelt that the 'City had ample industrial sites, for development , i .e. Cabot, Ca.bo-t and. Forb prime land for commercial uses such as re'staurant etc. because of the visibility from 1-5 .and that station had done quite well in this area'. There was discussion among the Commissioners re- garding redesignating the area., but they could not decide I designation and desired that this item be continu for more staff input. The Commission was .advisec - by Mr. Banche that this was the final General Pla Amerfdment hearing f0.r the year, and.he would pre- fer to have a denial rather than for the item to be' continued so that,he might go for\h to the ne2 City Council hearing. A motibn was made to deny GPA-40 per staff recom- .. Industrial Park. He pointed.out that this was - Hadley's Fruit Orchard, Denny's and the gasoline _-- . " .'% .. ' mendation. L Cha but 1-5 irman L'Heureux said he felt the property alon should be zoned to some type of commercial us I he agreed to the denial so that the matter could go before the Council l*A.".. . na Motion Ayes . Noes Absent x !~ , ._ - .:. . . .. _. - - _" ._ . (I __ . . CITY OF CARt^SAD .. MEETING OF: PLANNING COMMISSION DATE : November 22, 1976 TIME: 7:OO P.M. PLACE: COUNCIL CHAMBERS Page 3 ._ . " . 2) Case No. CT 76-12 and PUD-4, Calavera Hiils, Robert Ladwig .(Agent) - Request for approval of a tenta.tive tract m'ap and planned unit d.evelopment to provide a 138 dwelling unit, 172 lot subdivisiol on approximately 63 acres. The CommissiDri stated that they' had not received. .this staff report till after 5:OO on this date and could not hear this item as they were not prepared to do so. Mr. Roy Ward, representative of the owners and part owner, felt that the Commission could not do justice to this matter by hearing it and agreed wtth the continuance, but nonetheless, was con- cerned that this item ha.d been continued so many times'. A motion was made to continue CT 76-12 and PUD-4 'Motion X to the December 8, 1976 meeting. Ayes x xx xx x Absent X 3) Case No. CT 76-13, Samuel W. Pearlman - Re- quest for approval of a 3 lot, 16 dwelling unit condominium project. Bud Plender said that a letter from the applicant's representati've, Rick Engineering, had been received asking for another continuance. A motion was made to continue CT 76-13 to the Motion X December 8, 1976 meeting. Ayes x xxx x x Absent X 4) Case No. CT 76-5, Rancheros de La Costa, ,La Costa Land Company - Request for approval of a 69.lot tentative subdivision map. Mr. Plender referred to a 1ette.r received from Fred Morey, Vice President of La Costa Land Company dated November -18.-, 1976, requesting continuance of this item till December 8th to give the.-company sufficient time to consider the impTications of conditions of.approva1. Mr..Plender stated that the staff concurred with the applicant's request. " A motion was made to continue.CT .76-5 to the. X Motion meeting of December.8, 1976. ...- x x x.x x x Ayes -, - ._ '4 X Absent 8:50 to 9:05 P.M. - .Recess*with all mwnbers pre- sent. as were,present prior to the recess. . - 5) Case No. CT 75-9, Santa Fe Knolls, La Costa Request for approval. of a 211 lot tentative sub- division map. Acting Planning Director Bud Plender gave the staff presentation asking that Conditiops 7 and 8 be deleted and replaced by the-following condition: provision of permanent open space maintenance on ". those areas as indicated in Condition 5 shall be assured to the satisfaction of tbe Planning Di- rector. Such maintenance may be assured by the formation of an Open Space Maintenance District, Homeowners' Association, or similar institution suitable for commonly maintaining open space." i . "Priar to the issuance of building permits, the i : g i i ,. . ," . . , . ....."". ~ d . . - . .. CITY OF CARLa9AD- MEETING OF: PLANNING COMMISSION DATE : November 22, 1976 TIME: 7:OO P.M. PLACE: COUNCIL CHAMBERS Paqe 4 In addition, Mr. Plender said that Condition 5(a) should be amended to include'slopes at the rear of lots, 193, 194, 200-21 1 (these slopes border Mission Estancia). The Commission then inquired about-maintenance of the slopes at the High School site, erosion con- trol, preservation of a stand of oak trees and preservation of the ruins.in the park site. Staff advised the Commission that the oak trees were in an open space area and would be preserved, condition #4 provides for erosion control, interim landscaping could be worked out with the applicant regarding the High School slopes, and a chain link .> fence could be placed around the ruins. The Commission also discussed future solid waste disposal in Carlsbad.. Fred Morey, Vice President, La Costa Land Company, stated that they were in agreement with the recommendations and conditions outlined in the staff report. He also told the Commission that if the City did not create Open Space Maintenance Districts, La Costa.would establish a Master Homeowners' Association. He-said they would install the landscaping on the slopes at'the High School site-and 'would maintain them until the High School was established. He also felt that the High School site was a most desirable one in that it was close to r-esidential areas, ' but was quite isolated from them. Mr. Morey also pointed out that the questi0.n raised about refuse disposal was a County wide problem and not just a La Costa problem. Charles S. Bull, Supervisory Archaeologist, RECON, Rick Environmental Consultants, 5620 Friars Road, San Diego, California 92110 presented the report on Archaeological -Investigations at Santa Fe Knoll:'. The Commission also discussed Condition 18 regard- ing 30. day commitment time af.t.er final Council ' 'approval. No action was taken on this matter. William A. Berrier, Superintendent, San Diegu.ito Union High School District, 215l-.-Newcast?e, Cardif'', --- -' CA 92007 s&d that they had been working with La Costa for about 3 years on this particular site and that they were very pleased with t.he site: His main concern was with the maintenance of the 80 acres and particularly the slopes Chairman L'Heuruex said that he hpd several res,ervations about this project, particularly a number of areas that are addressed in the EIR that are not addressed in this report: A.moticrn was made recommending .approval 'of CT 75-9 Motion X i deletion of Conditions 7 and 8 as shown in staff . Noes X report and substitute Condition 8 quoted above, Absent xj Condition 31 that the applicant will install per- \ manent landscaping on the slopes of the High Schoo- site and will maintain same till the school district takes over t.he use of the land. , " 1 - .x Ayes . . as per staff recommendation and conditions with thc x xxx ! I I " amend Condition 5(a) as quoted above, and .add to MEETING OF: PLANNING COMMISSION DATE : November 22, 1976 TIME: 7:OO P.M. PLACE: COUNCIL CHAMBERS Page 5 A Minute Motion was made recommending approval of the Archaeological Report as per the two rea-. sons outlined in the staff report with- the addi- tion 'of listing the consultant's name (3) ' Charles S. Bull, Supervisory' Archaeologist, RECON. NEW BUSINESS . 6) Case. No. PUD-1 , George Billings Bud Plender gave the staff report stating:that the Commission on 10/13/76 denied this project. On 11/2/76, the Council.heard this matter and sent it back to the Planning Commissio.n to report back on the-redesign of the project which is re- quired to accommodate the change in parking loca- tion. He stated that sta.ff.recommended approval subject to the revised .plot plan Exhibit F, dated 11/5/76, and the revised Architectural Elevations, Exhibit G, dated 11/5/76, and subject to the con.di tions in the 10/13/76 staff report and the condi- tions listed in,the 11/22/76 memorandum. George F. Billings and Robert J. Hallbach showed the Cornmiss-ion renderings of their proposed projec A motion was. mad-e recommending approval of PUD-1 as per staff's re-commendation but to combine the Conditions 2 and 3 of the 11/22/76 staff report and that the specific building materials and colors be approved by the Planning Director rather than the Planning Commission. It was also request that the two renderings or copies.thereof become exhibits and conditions to comply with same. Chairman L'Heureux said that he found the design and the entire project did not comDlv with the ' PUD Ordinance which requires that it"is necessary to have a comprehensive interrelated plan that should also be functionally interrelated. He felt the site plan did not answer that criteria. He felt too much of the area was being paved, too high a density, that these wer.e not garden apts., and were not in architectural' h'armony.with the .. neighborhood. He was also concerned about the internql street circulation and that this type - of project would attract .a very -.transient oriented -----: 'group of wople into a family oriented community; Commissioner Nelson concurred with L'Heureux and was quite concerned with the Hispanic-motif. A Minute Motion was made to return the 11/22/76 - .staff report along with the 10/13/76 report and comments of the Commission to the City Council for a deci si on. 7) Case No. MS-285, Mr. and Mrs. George Gilling- ham - Request for approval of a panhandTe lot. Bud P'Iender gave the staff presentation stating that this was the first request 'under the new required a variance). I ordinance for a panhandle lot (the old ordinance It was noted for the recoFd that the applicant was present. Motion . Ayes . Noes Absent Yotion 4yes Voes 4bsent Abstain A' Ylotion \yes \bsent .- - MEETING OF: - PLANNING COMMISSION DATE: November 22, 1976 TIME: 7:OO p.m. PLACE: COUNCIL CHAMBERS Paqe A motion was made approving MS-285 as per the findings and condi'tions outlined in the staff report. 8) Case No. SP-.l9, Car. Country - Request for approval of' architectural concept for Toyota -dealers hi-p. Bud Plender gave the staff presentation. A Minute Motion was made approving the site plan and architectural concept for the Toyota dealer- ship as per the conditions in,the staff report wi-th the following additions: (1) Landscape plan to- become one of the exh.ibits and to be labeled Exhibit B. (2) The project to be developed as per Exhibit A. (3) The applicant must secure approval of the Planning Director if the undevelo portion of the site is to be used for parking, et 9) Case No. CUP-101 (A) , Bank of America - Reque for extension of its CUP to operate a temporary branch office. Assistant Planner Allen Meacham advised the Com- mission that Continental Services Company had requested hy.letter dated 10/26/76 an extension of their CUP to operate a temporary branch office A Minute Motion was made extending CUP-lOl(A) to April 1, 1977 and instructing the Planning Director to ap.prove only a 30 day temporary occu- pancy of the permanent building until the tempora trailer has been removed. 10) -Case No ZCA-83, Resolution of Intention No. 134 to hold a public hearing on December 8, 1976 to amend Title 21 by the Additi-on of Chapter 21.29 (C-T) Commercial Tourist Zone. .. A motion was made approving Resolution of Inten- tention No. 134 and setting the date for public hearing to be at the earliest-time possible in - 1977. - 11) Case. No. -ZC-184, Resolution of Intention No. . 133 to .hold a public ,hearing on-3ecember 8, 1976 to considm a change .of zone of property adjacent to and on the north and south sides of Elm Avenue A" - ico Drive. between Highland Dri.ve and 'Pi0 P A motion -was -made approving Reso - tion No. 133 with staff to addit for study. lution of Inten- ional properties 12) Planning Commission Calendar - 1977'- This item will be approved' at a later date, but the Commission did make the following comments: 1) Did not like Monday meetings as it did not give . them.sufficient time to prepare for the meeting. 2) Make the cl.osing date Thursday instead of Calendar, list Commission's policy re continuance 4) List starting and stopping times of Planning Commission hearings. 5) Make a notation re appli- cant making an appearance at the,hearing. - Friday for receipt of applications. 3) On 13) Planning Commission By-Laws - The Commission asked that staff also add the 'Pledge of Alleg'ianc 4otion \yes lbsent Yotion 4yes Noes Plbsent d' Motion Ayes \bstain Absent Motion Ayes J Plbsent vlotion !yes Plbsent MEETING OF: PLANNING COMMISSION DATE : November 22, 1976 TIME: 7:OO P.M. PLACE: COUNCIL CHAMBERS ,. Page 7 voting by machine, li'st adjournment at 12:OO with last item to be entertained at 11:00, and staff to confer with City Attorney re a.nnouncement of abstention. 14) December 15, 1976 Planning Commission Date - ,The C-ommission will decide if a second meeting should be held in December at their December 8, 1976 meeting. 15) Planning Commission Christmas Party - It was decided that the party would be held the evening of December 17th with time and place to be deter- mined at the December 8th meeting. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 12:OO midnight. /mdp (12/1/76) . .. I . . .. .. .." " - -. . .. -4 .