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HEETING OF: PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE: DeLember 22, 1976
PLACE: CCIUNC I L CHAFlBERS
TI!1E: 7:oo .P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
The meet.ing was called to order at 7:OO P.N.
ROLL CALL
All pr'esent with. Commissioner Nelson arrivinq at . '
7:09 P.H. IPr
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
APPROVAL OF FIINUTES' -I
Minutes of December 8, 1976 - Appr.oved.
1) Bud Plender added an item under New Business re-
qardinq sale of Elm Avenue Property.
2) Bud Plender informed the Commiss.ion that 'Resolu-
tions had been arenared for anproval of CUP-129.
3RAL COYMUNIC.ATIQNS
1) Commissioner Rombotis .announced that a consul-
. Impact qeport for the La Costa Master Plan.
tant had been chDsen to prepare the Economic
The consultant chosen was McDonald and Grefe.
2) Chairman L'Heureux added another item Eo be dis-
. cussed under New Business, and that being the
selection of a new Chairman for the Planninq
Commission for 1977.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Continued
1) Case Nos. CT 76-1-5 and PUD-6, Douglass Southwest - Request for deletion of Specific Plan 115
Cit.y Council Resolution No.' 3177. Auaust 7. 1973 l
and a'pproval of CT 76-15 and- PUD-6 to 'allow 136
single-family detached dwellings on 43.99 acres.
It is noted. for the record that Commissioner Romb0ti.s
would abstain from participating in t3is hearinq as
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-fie. has. an intmest in the.ad.jacent property.
Chairman L'Heureux advised the applicant that it w.ould
be necessar.y to have 4 votes either for approval or denial and there were onlv 5 Commissioners (Commissioner
Nelson had not yet arrived). The applicant stated they would like to proceed with the hearinq.
Acting Planninq Director Bud Plender qave the.staff
presentation stating that -the property is located on the west side of El Camino Real on both sides of
Tamarack Avenue. Originally, the site was approved
for. 331 units, most being attached condominiums with
some single-family .resi.dences in the western portion
near Skyline Drive. This was approved through SP-115
Camino Real has been completed.
CT 73-8 has expires, but SP-115 is.stil1 in effect.
However, with the recent amendments to the P-C Zone,
new developments required PUDs. Therefore, the a?pli-
'and CT 73-5. Only the portion at Tamgrack and El
Clfy OF CARLt"3AD
MEETING OF:. PLANWIG cowussIm
DATE: De-cember 22, 1976
PLACE: COUNCIL CHAYBERS
T.1 FIE : 7:90 P.M.
cant requested a PUD, a n8w CT map for
family units and deletion of the undeve
Of SP-115.
136 single- loped portion
Yr. Plender indicated that the City ha$ had a.pol,icy
to NOT allow any lots to front upon a main thorough-
fare,. The applicant has-lots frontinq onto Tamarack
and has created a service road so that property owners
wwld back out o-nto this service road and then drive
onto Tamarack. It was also pointed out that the .
applicant had been working with the Parks and Recrea- tion Directqr to work out problems that exist with
location of the parks and dedication of same.
The Commissioners then discussed the service road and how traffic would be control1e.d on this road,
how-would one way traffic be ensured, who would
police parking on only one side of the service road,
whether or not there was p.roper lighting, etc.
Dan Salerno-and Roger Snipes, Snipes and Salerno, 4007 Camino Del-!?io South, Suite 207, San Diego,
California 92108, tngineers for the project, gave a brief background history of the project and stated that the current project would provide all the amenities of single-family homes.with low maintenance because of the size of the .lots (zero lot lines.). They said there would be several mini-parks which would be passive parks, and ttiat the grading would be bench
type grading. They felt. the. service road should more
appropriately be. entitled private. driveways ,(there . would be 23 patio homes using 4 driveway lo4p.s).
Robert Stevenson, 4930 Avila Avenue, Carlsbad, Ca. was concerned about a 15 foot mound of dirt on the
property adjacent to his and this pro.ject and wanted to know what w'as to.become of this knoll. He was also very concerned about the-t-raffic-that would be generat
on Neblina and Avila Avenue to get to the proposed
homes located on Terrace Court. He wanted to know when Neblina Drive would be connected to the other portion of Meblina Drive.
.Mr. .Stevenson was advised that the' 15 foot mound did not belonq to the applicant and also that Neb
Drive would be connected at such time as the
would cross'would be developed (thee- applicant
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Ron Schwab, 408r) Skyline Road, Carlsbad and hi.s attorney, Reed V. Langlois, 1196 Third Avenue, Chu'la Vista, CA. stated that there is current litigation to settle land ownership of a portion of the subject subdivision and would like this matter continued unt
this dispute is settled ... (They were advi'sed that ownership of land did not concern the Planning Com- mission' and the matter would be he-ard). Mr. Schwab was concerned as to how he would get to his property once this land was develoPed as the aradina and buildi.ng of' Tamarack would do away with hi; driveway.
A motion was made to deny CT 76-15 and PUD-6 for the reasons outlined in the staff report.
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' 2) Case No. CUP-129, Robert Knauf - Request for
approval of additional freestanding signs as required by Section 21.41.075(b), Carlsbad Yunicipal Code, for three auto dealerships:
Hoehn Motors, Toyota of Carlsbad, and 2oric.k
Buick-Opel.
.Bud Plender qave the staff presentation and pointed out that Hoehn Motors had requested two fr~estandinq signs, but that staff was only recpmmending one as the required amount of footage i.s not available. Mr. Plender also mentioned that there are additional
signs on the property and that the applicant says
they are directionaT (there are no arrows or other directional information, thus staff believes they are advertising signs and should be subject to the requirt
ments of the Code.)'If the Commission interprets them
as directional signs, then a Condition 5 should be
added exempting them; and if the Commission interpret:
them as staff does, staTf will require their removal
in conformance with Conditi,on 4.
Robert Knauf, Attorney at Law, 810 Mission Avenue,,
Suite 300, Oceanside, CA. 92054 spoke on behalf of
Car Country. He- was in agreement with the-condition:
outlined for Rorick Buick-Ope1 and for Toyota of ..
Carlsbad. As for Hoehn. he said thev would!acauire
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1and:from Don Sharp Volkswagen, thus"wou1d have the
required footage. As for the woodburned signs, he
said-they were directional and served the purpose
of directing traffic to the proper service areas.
said they would be happy to add arrows.
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A motion was made approving Resolution No. 1306 for
Rorick Bwick-Opel. . .'
A motion was made approving Resol.ution No. 1305 for. Toyota of Carlsbad.
Kmotion'was made approving Resolut'ian No. 1304 for .
"Kihh-n. Motors f%-r one freestanding sign with a tondi-
tion to be added stating that once a lot 1ine.adjust-
ment is made and they have 590 feet of frontage, an-
other freestanding sign may be. placed. upon the proper1 per staff approval. Also, a condition to be added re
syall burnt wood signs to be placed closer to drivewaj
and 'to have a directional arrow burnt onto same.
"A motion was made approving CUP-129 for the reasons
outlined in the Staff report with the above changes to be made concerning Hoehn Motors.
/ NEW BUSINESS
3) Case No. SP-19, Car Country - Request for.approva of- rrchftectural concept for Rorick Buick-Ope1 , dealership as required by SP-19.
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Bud Plender gave the staff presentation and showed the Commission some problems with the site plan. One of them being that the drive into Rorick Buick-Ope
did not square up with the median cut and for this to be corrected, the building would have to be mo.ved so that the drive would line up with the entrance to the site.
Robert Knauf, Attorney at Law, 810 Mission Avenue, Suite 300, Oceanside, CA. spoke on behalf of the applicant. He said that the enaineer. Mr. Richardson. was present and had advised himdthat the site could be moved and drives would then-line up properly.
The Commissioners then discussed whether there was proper lighting, enough employee as well as customer parking and landscaping.
A minute motion was made approving the architectural concept for the Rorick Buick-Ope1 dealership as required by SP-19 with the following changes to the staff report: 1) proper ingress and egress to be provided to ,subject 'property that is acceptable to the City Engineer. 2) any change in the location of buildings to be approved by the Planning Director. 3) proper parking for customers and employees to be provided. 4) lighting to be of proper wattage to preclude reflection on surrounding areas. 5) land- scaping to be provided on the bank at the rear of the property. 6) any minor architectural changes to be approved by Planning Director with any major.changes to be brought back before the Commission.
4) Case No. MS-295, Mr. and Mrs. E. W. L.anger - Re- quest for approval of a Panhandle lot pursuant to Title 21, Section 21.10.080. ..
Mr. Bud Plender gave the staff presentation .
Frank Wells, 2311 Waring'Way, Carlsbad, represented the applicants, and stated that the findings as pre- pared by the staff and conditions were fully acceptable
A motion was made approving MS-29-5 for the reasons outlined in the staff report.
.5) Sale. of City Owned Property
Bill-Baldwin, -Assistant City Manager, asked the Commission to approve the sale of City Owned Property in that it was not to be used by the City of Carlsbad. The property is adjacent to the Fire Station on Elm Avenue.
A. minute motion was made. approving the sale of this property.
6) Selection of Planning Commission Chairman for 197;
A motion was made recommending that Commissionek LarSOn be Chairman for 1977.
A motion was.made recommendi.ng that Commissioner Rom- botis be Vice-chairman for 1977.
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CITY OF CARlSBAQ
MEETING OF: PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE : December 22, 1976
TIME: 7:OO P.M.
PLACE: COUNCIL CHAMBERS
INFORMATION ITEMS
Planning Commissioners' Institute -
announced that this Institute would 2-4, 1977 in Los Angeles and it was new Chairman and Vice Chairman woulc
Chairman L'Heureux
be held on Februar
hoped t'hat th.e d be able to attend
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11:lO P.M.
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