HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-04-12; Planning Commission; MinutesCALL TO ORDER - 7:05 P.M.
ROLL CALL - Commissioner Jo Woodward arrived at 7:08 P.M. .
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A revised copy of the March 22, 1978, minutes was
distributed to the Planning Commission. The March 22, 1978,
minutes were APPROVED with the following corrections/
additions:
On Page One, Item (1) - Resolution No. 1436, Commissioner
Jose indicated.that if he would have been present at the
March 8th meeting he would have voted 'NO' because he felt
very strongly that we would be opening up 'Pandora's BOX'.
On Page One show that Commissioner L'Heureux voted
'ABSTAIN' on Resolution No. 1436. Also, on Page One,
Commissioner Yerkes voted 'NO' on Resolution No. 1438, and
on Page Two, show that Commissioner Yerkes voted 'YES' on
Case No. ZC-198 - 0 Overlay.
RESOLUTIONS
Resolution No. 1436, Barbara Colton, CUP-147.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Condominium Conversion Report was discussed as Item No. 4
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None.
NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
(1) Case No. CUP-149, Brown Trucking - Request for approval
to allow temporary use of a trailer as an office on
property generally located on the south side of Haymar
Dkkve, west of College Boulevard.
Mr. Don Rose, Associate Planner - indicated that the
applicant withdrew his application on April 4, 1978, bv - letter and that staff had also received a letter from
South Coast Asphalt stating their position. He recommended
that the Commission DENY this application without predjudice
and that the applicant be refunded any fees that would be
forthcoming to him. Mr. Rose indicated that a letter was
sent to the applicant explaining what we would propose as
conditions of approval and also explaining some of the
problems with the application in general and then stated
that this was a public hearing.
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A motion was made to DENY CUP-149 without predjudice because
the applicant withdrew his application. The motion containe
a recommendation that the unused fees be refunded for his
request as deemed appropriate by staff.
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(2) ' Case No. SDP 77-1, Mola - Approval of a Site Develop- ment Plan for a commercial center.
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Mr:'Don Rose;Associate Planner gave the staff'presentatiori.
,He explained that the subject property was within the "Q"
Overlay Zone. The north and south extremities are .
labeled for future building and it is expected that the
south portion would hold a bank and the north would hold
a large supermarket but that when plans for that come in
it would come back to the Planning Commission for approval
because of the Q Overlay Zone. He indicated that under
the conditions of approval that all drives and access to
this would be fully improved so that there would be
convenient access for people using the restaurant and
offices, and would not be tracking dirt onto the City
streets.
Mr. Bud Plender, Assistant Planning Director in response to
Commissioner Jose's question regarding a wall on the east
side of the property line. Mr. Plender indicated that
there is no condition for,a screening wall on the east
property line. He indicated to the Commission that they
should decide if a wall is necessary. The future residentia.
units to the east will be looking up at the commercial
development and in some portions the parking will be above
Mr. Don Rose, Associate Planner -indicated that there was
only going to be one trash enclosure for this site because this was only 1/3 of the development and that there would
probably be two other refuse areas. He indicated that the
code does not indicate how many trash enclosures, or how
much refuse will be provided for. Different uses require
different amounts.
Frank Mola, OW'ner', 422 Loma Drive, Huntington Beach, CA -
Indicated that the center sits on the average of 3 to 6'
above El Camin0 Real. He felt that requiring a block wall
would harm the project and stated that landscaping would be
Sufficient. All of the air conditioning and all other equipment will be enclosed in a shed roof. In response to
Commissioner L'Heureux's question regarding the height of
the tower, he indicated that the tower would be below the
35 feet. Regarding the mitigation measures taken since this
was an archaeological area he indicated that the study was
completed at a cost of $25,000.00.
Commissioner L'Heureux, stated that he felt that any type
of mechanical equipment on any kind of commercial building
should be totally screened from any view. He indicated that
he had a difficult time trying.to evaluate the traffic
pattern and the traffic flow without seeing the entire
proposal. He indicated that we have a real problem with the
May Company, Reubens and Coco's with parking and that this
could be too much traffic congestion. He felt he could not
adequately consider this proposal without knowing how the
full site was to be developed.
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Mr. Bud Plender, Assistant Planning Director indicated that
staff felt there was some unique things about this site
and that is why the "Q" Oyerlay Zone was placed on it. It r.
was .felt that-if we could solve some of those unique problems
with the site then phase development would be acceptable.
One'reason the Q Overlay Zone was-placed on this .area was
because it is a very unusual shaped area-with poor access
to El Camino Real, there was going to be a need for internal
access, especially through the property to Alga. He
stated that this plan would require a street or driveway
from Dove Lane through the site to Alga which is a major
issue. With the Q Zone we have the flexibility, ability
and discretion to request additional driveways and additional
traffic control. Mr. Plender explained that Exhibit "B"
shows additional parking to be deleted from this phase and to
be redesigned for future plans. You will then have the
ability to have enough of the property to redesign the parkin
and interior driveways so that they do work with the major
driveways and accesses. This will give you the flexibilitytc
insure that future development will €it the plan you are
adopting tonight and still give the applicant the opportunity
to build out the portion that he is ready to build now.
A motion was made to APPROVE SDP 77-1 based on the reasons
outlined in the staff report subject to the conditions.
The change of Condition No. 1 to read 'Exhibit "B"' and
with the addition of Condition No. 18 to read as follows:
'On site lighting shall be designed and shielded
so that light and glare will not be a nuisance
to adjoining residential uses or vehicular
circulation on adjoining streets.'
(3) Information Report - Village Area
Mr. Jack Henthorn, Redevelopment Coordinator indicated
to the Commission that this item be continued one week
to permit the City Attorney and the Redevelopment
Special Commission's opinion on conflict of interest
provisions.
A motion was made to hold a Special Meet.ing on the
Village Area on April 19, 1978.
(4) Condominium and Condominium Conversion .
Mr. Bud Plender, Assistant Planning Director gave the staff
presentation. He explained that State Law requires the
processing of condominiums by subdivision tract maps.
However, there are no provisions in the code to provide for
discretionary action by the City, therefore, the City Council
wished to consider if special processing should be required.
Staff had to ask some basic questions prior to responding
such as: IS a condominium a unique form of residential
development? Is there some reason to treat condominiums
differently? Mr. Plender further explained that a condominiu
is similar to a Planned Unit Development in some regards but
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differs in processing through the City. He explained that
a Planned Unit Development is a process that is voluntary
on the applicants part to get' flexibility of development
standards. A condominium on the other hand is required
by State Law with no flexibility to the code. Condominiums
are similar to single family residential and multiple
family residential but they differ in that they have a
homeowners association. Mr. Plender indicated to the
Commission that they took all of these differences and
similarities and came up with what they felt were some
standards that would promote a better condominium develop-
ment, meeting some of the aspects of single family
development and tried to mitigate some of the problems with
multiple-family development. Also, tried to use some of
the Planned Unit Development concepts.
Mr. Bud Plender, in response to Commissioner Rombotis's
question regarding C.C.&R'S, said that with Planned Unit
Developments there was a need for C.C.&R'S to insure that
all Planned Unit Development conditions will be met and
maintained. However, C.C.&R's were not made a requirement
of thecondominium requirements because of the time involved
in administrating them-and because of changes that can occur
in them in the future. He also indicated to the Commission
that the City is ne;Jer part of the C.C.&R'S unless it
specifically makes itself rart of them.
The Commission discussed condominium/condominium conversion
section by section. There was concern as to a correct
definition for a private street. Mr. Plender indicated
that this item would come back to the Commission's discussion
at a later date. There was also some concern regarding
parking, Mr. Plender indicated that the Carlsbad Zone
Ordinance has no requirements for the construction of
driveways or parking areas other than the acceptance of the
City Engineer. We felt that in reducing the amount of
maintenance that the parking areas and driveways should be
built at the very beginning to accessible standards. Good
condominiums have low upkeep parking areas with cement
parking lots and cement driveways. They will last a long
time and in the long run it is going to be a .lot less
maintenance. Regarding storage space, Commissioner L'Heureux
suggested that we include.jt in the draft that the homeowner:
association has the flexibility to permit storage space or
not and that some sort of RV storage should be considered.
Mr. Bud Plender, explained that there should be some form of
recreation outdoor area and suggested that 200' ratio per
unit which is really quite small. He suggested patios,
balconies, swimming pools, tennis courts, childrens play-
grounds, picnic areas and indicated that these were
suggestions, but the decision should be made by the developer
who is to provide recreation for his market. Mr. Plender
stated that landscaping was a very important aspect of
keeping maintenance costs down. Commissioner L'Heureux
explained that lighting and signs were needed for security
and location.
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Commissioner Jose, felt some concern regarding walkways for
'the handicapped, and wheeher it was provided by code. Mr. A
Plender was to check into this and return back to the
Commission. Mr. Plender indicated that laundry facilities
should be a requirement, but they.not be built on a common
wall because of the noise problems. Comhissioner Rombotis
noted an apparent conflict between the section dealing
with storage and the section dealing with laundry rooms
and suggested that staff work this out for clarification.
Section 7, conversion of existing buildings to condominiums
was to be clarified for better understanding of action to
be taken and facts to be found.
It was recommended by the Commission to hold a public
hearing on this Matter on April 26, 1978.
There being no further business to come before the
Commission, at 9:45 P.M. Chairman Rombotis declared the
meeting adjourned.
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