HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-10-25; Planning Commission; MinutesCITY OF CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - October 25, 1978 Page One (1)
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APPROVED AT SUBSEQUENT MEETING OF CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:OO P.M. by Chairman Rombotis.
11. ROLL CALL
Commissioners present: Chairman Rombotis, Commissioners Larson,
Marcus, Schick, Jose, L'Heureux, Wrench
Staff present: James C. Hagaman, Planning Director; Don Rose,
Current Planning; Jere Riddle, Engineering; Mike Zander, Associate
Planner
111. AGENDA ITEM COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Rose related that staff wished to add Resolution Number
1481, Lake Calavera Hills Master Plan Amendment to the bottom
of the agenda.
Mr. Rose further indicated that item A. CUP-156, Friends of the
Handicapped, under New Business should be disposed of due to
the fact that recent legislation prohibited the City from
requiring a conditional use permit for residential care facilities
of six persons or less. -
Due to the fact that several citizens had arrived for the public hearing Chairman Rombotis announced that there would be no need for a public hearing and they may not wish to remain for the entire meeting. He further indicated that due to the fact that there seemed to be considerable confusion over the subject property and its use that those interested citizens contact the Planning Department for further information.
A motion was made to file CUP-156 due to the fact that recent State legislation has reduced local jurisdicions from requiring
a conditional use permit in such cases.
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APPROVED MOTION: Jose SECOND: L'Heuruex AYES: Rombotis, L'Heureux, Schick, Wrench, Marcus,
NOES: None Jose, Larson
A minute motion was made directing staff to follow-up on the purported zone code violation, in the conversion of the garage into expanded living space. -
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APPROVED MOTION: Wrench
SECOND: Schick
AYES: Rombotis, L'Heureux, Schick, Wrench, Marcus,
NOES : None Jose, Larson
IV. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. PUD-11, R.E. Wilkinson
Mr. Don Rose presented the staff report for this planned unit
development for four units on property of approximately 2.22
acres.
Commissioner Jose questioned as to whether or not the school
letter had been obtained.
Staff responded that there was not a copy in the file but that
they would secure a duplicate copy in that the applicant indicated they had, in fact,obtained said letter.
A general discussion between the Commission and staff was had regarding grading, land fill, slopes, cuts, open space, water,
of that strip of road just off El Camino Real, referred to by
staff as the frontage road.
- sewer, etc. A major point of concern was in the exact ownership
THE PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AT 7:40 P.M.
Speaking in favor:
Bob Wilkinson, 13027 Caminito Del Rosio, Del Mar, the applicant, indicated that the school letter had been obtained and all applicable bonds posted. He indicated his agreement with the CC & Rs as indicated in staff's report.
Speaking in opposition:
Larry Byers, 3821 El Camino Real, related his understanding that the property referred to as the frontage road had reverted to the property owners when El Camino Real was improved. He further indicated that there is no maintenance on the road.
H. Merriot, 3851 El Camino Rea1,indicated that he was for the
proposed project, as it will enhance the value of his own home, but wondered where the water line will be brought from. He also asked about access to his home in the event the frontage road is
torn up.
Staff indicated that the water line would be brought from Chestnut along the El Camino Real right-of-way and that the installation of
said water lines will be done with a minimum of inconvenience to
homeowners along that frontage.
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Mr. Merriot then asked about curbs and gutters, as to whether or not they will be installed and if he will be incumbered upon for the cost of same.
Staff indicated that there may be a possibility of an asphalt berm to necessitate proper drainage, but that there are no curbs, gutters or sidewalks indicated at this time.
Mr. E. Anderson, 3814 Skyline Road, questioned as to the exact
elevations of the two uppermost homes indicated on the plans, and
asked if they will, in any way, obstruct his view.
Mr. Wilkinson, the applicant, indicated that the plans indicate
two-story homes on those sites which should not run more than 25'
high, with 2,000 square feet.
Mr. Ken Huelsman, 3812 Skyline, related the same concern regarding the height of the homes and asked if the plans were firm.
THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:lO P.M.
Commissioner Larson, indicated that a main problem lies with the exact ownership of that frontage road to El Camino Real in that if an easement can't be gained onto the access road indicated in the plans, the plans will be considerably affected.
A motion was made recommending approval of PUD-11 based on the findings, and subject to the conditions as contained in the Staff
report dated October 25, 1978 and pursuant to the following:
1. The school letter will become a part of this application. 2. Exact ownership of the frontage road of El Camino Real shall
3. Determine the exact location of the water source.within the be determined.
water easement along the north property line.
The Commission's motion added the following two conditions to the conditions of approval:
15. Any work in the limits of the frontage raod shall be conducted in such a manner that continued access to the two homes using
said road will be assured.
16. The indicated pad elevations of Exhibit B, dated 10/25/78 - shall be complied with within a tolerance of +6 inches and -2 feet.
APPROVED MOTION: Jose SECOND : Larson AYES : Rombotis, L'Heureux, Schick, Wrench, Jose, Marcus Lar son NOES : None
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17. NEW BUSINESS
A. CUP-l18(A), Magee House Appeal - Mr. Don Rose presented the staff report.
Commissioner Larson questioned the parking at St. Michaels.
Staff responded that a letter has been recieved from the pastor of St. Michaels indicating their willingness to allow parking on their lot; said permission is revokable at any time.
Commissioner L'Heureux asked how long it should be before the final compliance with a11 the conditions imposed.
Staff noted that subject improvements to Magee House have been included in next year's budget, although it may be a low priority item.
James C. Hagaman, Planning Director, indicated that the Council's
intent was to complete the project. He suggested that the Commission
may wish to indicate to Council their opinion that a definite time
frame should be imposed within which the project should be completed.
c Commissioner Jose noted concern of the Planning Commission in maintaining a srtaight line on all CUPS. The City should abide by
the same rules as it expects of other applicants. If an applicant is required to follow certain criteria the City should be held to those same guidelines. It was again suggested that the Historical Society carry their appeal to the City Council for approval of limited use subject to a definite commitment by the City Council on a timetable for completion.
A motion was made recommending final CUP approval subject to confirmation by the City Council of a definite commitment to make
all necessary improvements completely complete prior to June 30,
1979.
APPROVED
MOTION: Wrench
SECOND: Schick
AYES : L'Heureux, Schick, Wrench, Marcus, Jose, Larson
NOES : Rombotis
Commissioner L'Heureux indicated for the record that he was opposed
to the apparant double standard between the City and private projects. He suggested that the City Council be posed the question as to their imposition of a dual standard as a matter of policy.
" A minute motion was made requesting a policy statement regarding the implied dual standards for public and private development, and expressing disapproval of same.
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APPROVED MOTION: L'Heuruex
SECOND : Jose
AYES: Rombotis, L'Heuruex, Schick, Wrench, Marcus,
NOES : None
Jose, Larson
VII. APPROVAL OF MINTUES
A. A motion as read.
APPROVED MOTION :
SECOND : AYES:
NOES:
B. A motion
as read.
SECOND:
AYES :
NOES :
was made approving the minutes of October 4, 1978
Jose Larson Rombotis, L'Heureux, Schick, Wrench, Marcus, Jose, Larson
None
was made approving the minutes of October 11, 1978
Jose L I Heureux
Rornbotis, L'Heureux, Schick, Wrench, Marcus, Jose
Larson
None
VIII. APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS
A. A motion was made approving Resolution No. 1474, V-284, Starich, as read.
APPROVED
MOTION : Jose
SECOND : Schick
AYES: Rombotis, L'Heureux, Schick, Wrench, Marcus,
NOES : None
Jose, Larson
B. A motion was made approving Resolution No. 1475, ZCA-101, PUD Expiration, as read.
APPROVED MOTION : Jose
SECOND: Larson
AYES : Rombotis, L'Heureux, Schick, Wrench, Marcus,
NOES : None
Jose, Larson
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C. A motion was made approving Resolution No. 1476, V-285, Craig, as read.
APPROVED
MOTION : Jose
SECOND: Schick
AYES: Rombotis, L'Heureux, Schick, Wrench, Marcus, Jose
Larson
D. A motion was made approving Resolution No. 1477, V-286,
Pahl, as read.
APPROVED
MOTION: Jose
SECOND: Schick
AYES: L'Heureux, Schick, Wrench, Marcus,
NOES : None Jose, Larson
Chairman Rombotis indicating that the reason for his abstention was due to the fact that he had been approached regarding the
subject property after the last Planning Commission action.
APPROVED
MOTION: Jose SECOND: Schick
AYES : Rombotis, L'Heureux, Schick, Larson, Jose, Marcus,
Wrench
NOES : None
F. A motion was made approving Resolution No. 1479,CUP-157,
Shell Oil, as read.
APPROVED
MOTION : Jose
SECOND: Larson
AYES : Rombotis, L'Heureux, Schick, Wrench, Marcus,
NOES : None Jose, Larson
G. A motion was made approving Resolution No. 1480, PCF-15,
Priestly Lincoln Mercury, as corrected.
APPROVED
MOTION : Larson
SECOND: Schick
AYES : Rombotis, L'Heureux, Schick, Larson
NOES : None
ABSTAIN: Wrench, Marcus, Jose
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Commissioner Jose indicated he was abstaining from the vote due
to the fact that he was out of the country at the time of the
public hearing.
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H. Resolution No. 1481, MP 150(A), Lake Calavera Hills
Chairman Rombotis expressed concern over the wording of finding #2.
A motion was made approving Resolution No. 1481, MP 150(A)
Lake Calavera Hills, as corrected, with finding #2 amended
to read as follows:
2, "Although all necessary public facilities may not be
available at this time, their availability, concurrent
with need, has been assured through the conditions of
approval and adequate provisions have been provided to implement those portions of the Capital Improvement Program applicable to the subject property."
APPROVED MOTION : Jose SECOND: Larson
AYES : Rombotis, Schick, Marcus, Jose, Larson NOES : None ABSTAIN: L'Heureux, Wrench
-1X. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:35 P.M.
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To the Honorable Members Carlsbad City Council
Oct’. 17, 1978
To the Honorable Members
’ Carlsbad Planning Commission
Ladies & Gentlemen:
As you know, residents of east Carlsbad have been con- cerned about the sewage treatment plant proposed for the Lake Calavaras subdivision. I
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We have endeavored to appear before you in a responsible manner, recognizing the dilemma facing Carlsbad if further re-
sidential development is to occur. We are concerned because:
A. There would be a deterioration of the environment if such a plant is authorized and becomes an odor producer .
B. An improperly designed or improperly operated plant that would emit objectionabla odors would diminish
the value of ow ind.ividua1 homes.
C. Such a plant should be designed so as to be esthetically compatible with the ptiysickl environ-
ment .
Should it be your final judgment that such a plant can be operated without detriment to our area, there. are at least three important conditions that are probably already apparent to you:
1, The plant must be designed by an experienced and capable person or firm. Thus, such 8 person or firm must have already designed one or more plants now operating successfully.
2. Should such a plant be authorized after you have satisfied yourselves that a plant can be designed and operated in 8 mmner that will not damage the environment the next step would Involve operating porsonnel. ‘de would recommend that, in addition to a careful selection process, proposed personnel be sent to a successfully operating plant for adequate training. We would also recommend that at least supervisory personnel be sent to an im- properly operating plant to learn the reasons for ,’ malfunctions and corrective measures.
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3. It is rumored that malfunctions at. the Encina Plant are due to industrial wastes. We are not opposed to industrial development. We support industrial growth compatible to our area. Since Lake Calavaras will be a residential area plus necessary commercial adjuncts it wou1.d sesm un- likely that so-called industrial wastes would be
involved., Nevertheless, we. suggest that the proposed plant be restricted to treatflent of domestic sewage. Should gasoline stations or other cornmercial facilities generate wastes other
than dornestic, the producers of such non-domestic wastes should be required to make satisfactory disposition of same without entaring them inso the sewage system. .-
We commend you and Staff on your recognition that this project is .gravely important to the people of' Carlsbad. We also approbate the levels of city government for the careful
process of consideration which we recognize as a desire on your part, as well as Staff, that the proposal be so examined
a.s to eleminate errors of judgment.
We thank you and Staff for the patient manner in which you have received our statements, appearances and questions.
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Respectfully,
Joseph Levesque
Rudy Geiger George Hind Nelson Aldrich