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CITY OF CARLSBAD
June 27, 1979
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P" OFFICIAL UNTIL
MEETING OF THE CARLSBAD
PLANNING COMMISSION
Ar2ROVED AT SUBSEQUENT
I. CALL TO ORDER
11. ROLL CALL
Commissioners present: Chairman L'Heureux, Commissioners Rombotis, Marcus, Larson, Schick, Jose
Commissioner absent: Commissioner Wrench
Staff present: Dave Abrams, Associate Planner; Bud Plender,
Assistant to the Planning Director; Dave Hauser, Engineering;
Les Evans, City Engineer; Dan Hentschke, Assistant City
Attorney; Jack Henthorn, Redevelopment Coordinator.
111. AGENDA ITEM COMMUNICATIONS
A. Mr. Abrams referenced a change to condition #6 of the O'Grady Resolution, CP-6, Resolution No. 1527.
B. Jeff Crisman, the applicant for previously approved
CUP-124 and CUP-l24(A) asked that he be allowed to address
the Commission regarding a problem with his project. It was the consensus of the Commission that Mr. Crisman be
added to the end of the agenda.
C. Mr. Abrams referenced recent Council action on items referred by the Planning Commission and indicated that due to an error in noticing, the Zipser appeal (V-290) had been continued to the July 3, 1979 meeting; CT 79-3/CP-3 Von Elten had been denied and the applicant indicated that he
intended to file legal action; ZC-203 Lake Calavera Hills
had been approved; and PDP-2 Lake Calavera Hills had been
continued to allow staff rewriting of the conditions of approval.
IV. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. CUP-163, Dean, Conditional Use Permit to allow an auto
impound yard on two lots west of Tyler Street between Walnut Avenue and Pine Avenue. -
Commissioner Rombotis indicated he would be abstaining from discussion and vote on this item, and left the podium.
Chairman L;Heureux reminded the Commission that rules of
procedure dictate that in order for an action to be taken
on this item tonight, due to absence and abstention, there must be an affirmative vote of no less than four Commissioners.
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Mr. Dave Abrams presented the staff report, indicating that several changes had been proposed subsequent to the dis- tribution of the Planning Commission packet on Friday, June 22, 1979. He noted that the City Attorney's office had rendered an opinion that the Zone Code specifically prohibits any residential uses within an industrial zone, unless said residential use is a caretaker's residence in conjunction with a factory. In the past, staff has allowed a caretaker's residence associated with industrial uses not
involving a factory, under a liberal interpretation of the
section.
Mr. Abrams further pointed out that off street parking has been identified as a potential problem, and for this reason
staff is now suggesting a new condition of approval requiring three off street parking spaces.
In addition, it is the contention of the City Attorney's office that a definite expiration period is required by a Conditional Use Permit, and the conditions must so state.
Staff also indicated that there is some contention among
staff in regards to the easement onto the property. The
Engineering Department is satisfied with the submitted title
insurance policy, guaranteeing easement rights to the
property. The Redevelopment Coordinator, however, would
raise a question as to the legality of that easement right.
Don Agatep, 292 Roosevelt, representing the applicant, in-
dicated assent with the staff report as submitted, dated
June 27, 1979. He indicated that a title insurance policy
had been obtained insuring legal right to ingress and egress
to that 20' easement on the north side of lot #7 of the
industrial tract. He referenced the applicant's Grant Deed,
filed in 1923, accepting the 20' easement for that purpose.
As to residential development within the M Zone, Mr. Agatep indicated that the Code section references any use permitted in the CM zone, except dwelling units used in connection with
a factory shall have setbacks as provided in the R-3 zone.
There is room for interpretation, but if you. trace the CM
zone back to its origin, even the most restrictive commercial
zones allow for a residence to occur on site. The Planning Commission does have the ability to interpret ambiguities
regardless of legal interpretation on behalf of staff. They
would appeal to the Commission to make that determination,
No other problems with conditions as they exist.
Chairman L'Heureux questioned Mr. Agatep as to whether or not the title company would insure access in writing and to
which lot that pertains.
Mr. Agatep responded that the third lot adjacent to the rail- road right-of-way has received verbal assurance from Trans- americal Title Company as to access. The title report seems to
indicate that it does have access. There is some ambiguity
as to whether that access exists or not, therefore, the
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applicant requests the deletion of the third lot, pending a resolution of the access problem. He further indicated
that the rights to that easement only affect the second lot, and not the first lot, and only with respect to proposed condition #8 which says that access to the two lots shall be from Tyler Street only, etc., until access
rights can be proved to the satisfaction of the Planning
Director. They are, in effect, opposing the condition of
merging the two lots into one, so that access would only be
off Tyler.
Staff pointed out that there are two gates noted on the Exhibit, one that fronts off the easement (lot #1) and one that leads to the rear of lot 2. We were intending to allow
the caretaker to park his personal vehicles in the rear yard of that house and this determination would affect that condition. There has been some question as to the possibility
of this being a private access and the Code requires that a
lot'have public easement if it is not fronting on a public
street. The Code also states that if the easement is created
prior to the incorporation of the City, that it would then be valid.
Jack Henthorn, Redevelopment Coordinator, indicated that
the problem rests in whether or not that access meets the access requirements of the City. The Code specifically states
that a lot shall have frontage that allows usable access on
a dedicated public street or by public dedicated easement,
accepted by the City. If this was in existence for road
purposes prior to the incorporation of the City there is some
possibility of a verified easement. However, we haven't seen
anything that shows that it was dedicated prior to incorporation. There is also a problem regarding a 30' wide minimum access.
THE PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND CLOSED AT 7:30 WITH NO PUBLIC
TESTIMONY.
Mr. Agatep responded that any property owner that buys a piece of property that has some sort of title policy would have to assume, under today's subdivision laws, that that piece of property was legally subdivided and has legal access or a title policy wouldn't have been issued. We
disagree with the contention that that access has to be
in existence prior to the date the City incorporated.
Mr. Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney, indicated that his
office had not seen a valid title policy. Assuming there is access, there is a question as to whether ,or not,:the. second
lot is a conforming lot in light of the definition contained
in the Zone Code that a lot must have a 30' access. There
are provisions for sub-standard lots. After cursory review it would appear that the lot is not a standard lot, but no detailed legal analysis has been accomplished.
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With regard to the residential dwelling, Mr. Hentschke
informed the Commission of the City Attorney's position
that the Zone Code is not ambiguous in this regard and
that a residential use in an industrial zone is not a permitted use. The present residential structure is nonconforming pursuant to the Code and would have to be removed if the use or property is altered. If there is a residential use in the industrial zone, it is only allowable for factory uses. It is the intent of the ordinance not to allow residential uses within industrial zones as a
general rule.
After general debate among the Commission, a motion was
made continuing CUP-163 to the meeting of July 25, 1979,
for a report back from staff indicating the status of legal access to lot #2; the City attorney's position on
the residential use on the property and the easement issue, as well as Planning Commission alternative actions regarding
such residential uses (similar actions taken in the past);
and a brief synopsis of recommended changes as proposed by staff and various solutions to the problems at hand.
CONTINUED
MOTION: Schick
SECOND : Marcus
AYES : L'Heureux, Marcus, Jose, Schick
NOES : Larson
ABSTAIN: Rombotis
B. CT 79-4, Ayers, Revision to previously approved sub- division CT 76-7, (Rancho La Questa, Phase 5, The Seaport). Property located adjacent to the west of
El Camino Real, north of the Batiquitos Lagoon. -
Dave Abrams presented the staff report noting a typographical error in condition #4; deletion of the last four lines of con- dition #31, starting with the word "until" in the second sentence. He further indicated that as of the previous
hearing the tentative map did not meet the requirements of
the Map Act. A conforming map has now been submitted. Mr.
Abrams pointed out that conditions of approval have been
included which cover the referenced Commission concerns
regarding dust control during grading, hydroseeding of slopes,
slope ratio, drainage, desiltation basin and expiration date for filing of the final map. Staff recommends approval of
the'project pursuant to the suggested conditions.
Commissioner Rombotis indicated his belief that condition #21 was redundant, in that the Zoninq Ordinance covers setbacks and sideyards.
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Chairman L'Heureux asked at which point in time the
irrigation systems were to be installed.
Staff indicated that they are set to go in upon completion
of the rough grading.
Chairman L'Heureux questioned as to the implimentation of condition #2, regarding noise attenuation.
Staff responded that this condition had been included
merely because the project was located adjacent to El Camino
Real, an identified Noise Corridor, and in order to conform
with the General Plan requirements. It was noted that due
to the location of the lots, only three lots may be affected
by ambient noise, and then only slightly.
THE PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND CLOSED AT 8:30 P.M. WITH
NO PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
Mr. Don Agatep, representing the applicant, indicated the applicant's concurrence with the conditions as proposed by
staff, and understanding of the questions posed.
L A motion was made recommending approval of CT 79-4 as per
the conditions contained in the staff report, dated June 27,
1979, with the deletion of condition #21, modification of
condition #31 and #4, and inserting the word "rough" grading
in condition #20.
Commissioner Jose expressed his belief that, although he had been absent from the meeting whereat this item was previously discussed, he felt knowledgable on the subject
and could vote on the matter.
Chairman L'Heureux concurred with Commissioner Jose.
APPROVED
MOTION: Rombotis
SECOND: Larson
AYES : L'Heureux, Rombotis, Schick, Marcus, Jose,
Lar son
V. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
It was decided that due to the lateness of the hour, this
item would be taken out of order.
A. CUP-164, Kentucky Fried Chicken, to allow a "drive-thru"
addition to an existing restaurant, located on the southeast corner of Elm Avenue between Madison and Jefferson Streets.-
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Staff indicated that both staff and the applicant were
in agreement that the matter should be continued for the
purpose of redesign, with July 11th being the deadline for receipt of new, revised plans.
Chairman L'Heureux indicated, for the public, that due
to the fact that there was no actual staff report on this
item, the matter would be continued. He stated that if
there were those in the audience who wished to give
public testimony, they were invited to do so, but, urged that if it would be possible, that said testimony be
postponed until the actual hearing on the item.
THE PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AT 8:20 P.M. WITH NO PUBLIC
TESTIMONY BEING GIVEN.
A motion was made continuing CUP-164 to the meeting of
July 25, 1979.
CONTINUED
MOTION: Jose
SECOND: Rombotis
AYES : L'Heureux, Rombotis, Schick, Marcus, Jose,
Larson
AT THIS POINT A RECESS WAS CALLED BY CHAIRMAN L'HEUREUX.
The meeting was called to order at 8:30 P.M. by Chairman L'Heureux.
VI. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS (CONTINUED)
C. ZCA-105, City of Carlsbad, amending Title 21, Chapters 21.44 and 21.48 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code by the amendment of Sections 21.44.020 and 21.48.080 to ~~~~ ~ ~
provide for alteration and ex ansion of non-conforming uses and buildings.
Commissioner Rombotis stated that although he had been
absent from the May 23, 1979 meeting, he felt confident
in voting on this item.
Chairman L'Heureux indicated that he could vote.
Bud Plender presented the staff report, referencing Exhibit
B, dated May 30, 1979 and Exhibit A, dated June 13, 1979,
which staff believes more fully incorporates the concerns
of the Commission as referenced at the last hearing.
THE PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND CLOSED AT 8:45 WITH NO PUBLIC
TESTIMONY.
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A motion was made recommending approval of ZCA-105 as
submitted, per Exhibit A, dated June 13, 1979, on file in
the Planning Department.
APPROVED MOTION: Jose SECOND: Rombotis AYES : L'Heureux, Rombotis, Schick, Marcus, Jose, Larson
Dan Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney, noted for the record that it was the opinion of the City Attorney's
Office that any non-conforming uses should be removed.
Staff suggested that, if the Planning Commission agrees, steps should be taken to abate non-conforming uses
within the City.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. CUP-124, CUP-l24(A), Jeff Chrisman.-
Mr. Chrisman, the applicant in the above entitled application,
indicated that in the construction of said project some problems had arisen which should be'considered by the Planning Commission. He indicated that due to a draftsman's
effor the foundation had been set incorrectly, thereby rendering a 5' setback instead of the 10' required.
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Dan Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney, related that no
action could be taken this evening, in that any revision to
the approved CUP would require a public hearing.
A motion was made setting CUP-l24(A) for public hearing on
July 11, 1979.
APPROVED
MOTION: Jose
SECOND: Rombotis
AYES: L' Heureux, Rombotis, Schick, Marcus, Jose, Larson
B. SDP 79-2, City of Carlsbad, 1800 square foot temporary
modular office building within the City Hall complex, located directly east of the existing Council Chambers Building, south of the main administrakion building.
Dave Abrams presented a short summary of the project.
The Commission expressed displeasure in that this project
had been furthered prior to any hearing or action by the
Planning Commission.
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A motion was made to approve SDP 79-2 as submitted.
DENIED
MOTION: Rombotis ' SECOND: Marcus AYES : Rombotis, Marcus, Larson
NOES : L'Heureux, Schick, Jose
A motion was made to deny SDP 79-2 as submitted.
DENIED
MOTION: Jose
SECOND: Rombotis
AYES : Rombotis, Larson, Schick
NOES : L'Heureux, Marcus, Jose
A discussion was had wherein some of the Commissioners
indicated that they had pressed the wrong voting button.
A motion was made to approve SDP 79-2 as submitted.
DENIED MOTION: Rombotis SECOND : Marcus AYES : Rombotis, Marcus, Larson
NOES : L'Heureux, Schick, Jose
Conunissioner Rombotis noted that if, in fact, this item
is continued to the next meeting he will be unavailable.
The Commission discussed forwarding the item with no
Planning Commission action, recognizing that it is the
perogative of the City Council to let contracts without
Planning Commission approval.
Commissioner Schick indicated that he would like to see
a master plan, and not piecemeal development, by way of
the modular development. He related the need for a full
scale plan for the ultimate expansion of City offices,
and a definite building plan.
Commissioner Jose concurred with Commissioner Schick and asked as to the status of the property east of the Library. He indicated his preference for a permanent building
rather than butchering of present landscaping.
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A motion was made to forward this item, with Commission's comments and concerns, to the City Council with no formal action.
FORWARDED
MOTION: Rombotis
SECOND : Marcus
AYES : L'Heureux, Rombotis, Schick, Marcus, Jose
Lar son
VIII. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A motion was made approving the minutes of June 13, 1979 as amended.
APPROVED
MOTION: Rombotis
SECOND: Marcus
AYES : L'Heureux, Rombotis, Schick, Marcus, Jose, Larson
IX. APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS
A. Resolution #1526, ZCA-111, Adult Entertainment
A motion was made approving resolution #1526 as read, with
the stipulation that Exhibit "A" be amended.
APPROVED
MOTION: Marcus
SECOND: Rombotis
AYES : L'Heureux, Rombotis, Schick, Marcus, Jose,
Larson
B. Resolution #1527, CP-6, O'Grady
A motion was made approving resolutin #1527 as amended.
APPROVED
MOTION: Jose
SECOND: Rombotis
AYES : L'Heureux, Rombotis, Schick, Marcus, Jose,
Larson
C. Resolution #1528, SUP-3, Irv Roston
A motion was made approving resolution #1528 as read.
APPROVED
MOTION: Jose
SECOND : Lar son
AYES : L'Heureux, Rombotis, Schick, Marcus, Jose, Larson
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D. Resolution #1529, PCF-18, Bruce
A motion was made approving resolution #1529 as read.
APPROVED
MOTION: Rombotis
SECOND: Jose
AYES : L'Heureux, Rombotis, Schick, Marcus, Jose,
Larson
X. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at
9:45 P.M.
Respectfully Submittpd,
' Marg%let Sack:rider
Recor ing Secretary
ATTEST :
James C. Hagaman
Secretary