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April 14, 1982
7:00 P.H.
City Council Chambers
CALL TO ORDER was made by Chairman Farrow at 7:03 P.H.
ROLL CALL
Present -Farrow, Rombotis, L'Heureux, Harcus,
Schlehuber, and Friestedt.
Chairman Farrow left at 8:13 P.H.
Absent -Jose.
Staff Members present were:
Bill Hofman, Associate Planner
Charles Gri11111, Associate Planner
Michael Howes, Assistant Planner
Richard Allen, Principal Civil Engineer
COMMISSIONERS
David Bradstreet, Director of Parks and Recreation
Bob Wilkinson, Park Planner
Harty Orenyak, Director of Building and Housing
Ex-Officio Members present were:
James Hagaman, Planning Director
Daniel Hentschke, Assistant City Attorney
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Chairman Farrow.
PLANNING COMMISSION PROCEDURES
Chairman Farrow explained Planning Co11111ission procedures
in its capacity as an advisory Co11111iss1on to the City
Council, and identified those matters delegated to the
Planning Co11111ission for a final decision. Chairman
Farrow further explained the procedure observed by the
Co11111iss1on during public hearing items.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
l. ZC-240/SP-1821 ELM PROPERTIES. Request to change the
zone from R-1-10,000 to Residential Professional
(RP) and approval of a Spec1f1c Plan on property
located on the northeast corner of El Camino Real
and Elm Avenue.
Charles Grimm gave a staff report on the matter. He
referenced the additional condition prepared by the City
Attorney's office, and memo from the Traffic Engineer
which was a response to information presented by th~
applicant at the prior meeting. He added that Staff 1s
still reco-end1ng denial of the project, based on the
planning i1sues involved.
Mr. Gri-further indicated that Staff feels the use 1s
too intensive for the location, and added that if the
co-ission reco-enda app.~val of the driveway on Elm
Avenue, Staff would recomaend th~t the dr1ve-thru facility
at the southern end of the pro~erty be eliminated to
lessen the impact of potential ~ccidents.
Chainaan Farrow opened the public hearing at 7:08 P.H.,
and extended the invitation to speak.
The co-i11ion recognized Hr. John Bailey, Executive Vice-
President of Lusardi Construction, 1570 Linda Vista
· San Marcos, representing the applicant. Drive,
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Hr. Bailey referenced Condition 4 , f Resolution No. 1933,
and requested that same be amended to two (2) years due to
financial conditions. He also referenced Condition 20 of
the same Resolution, and with the aid of wall exh1b1ts
showing traffic circulation throughout the City, he
outlined intersection comparisons, and indicated that
there are only four other intersections in the City that
are similar 1n nature to the northeast quadrant of Elm
Avenue and El Camino Real.
Hr. Bailey continued to request the deletion of Condition
20, indicating the applicant does not understand the
necessity of the median, or the widening of Elm Avenue t o
accomodate the median.
Hr. Bailey indicated that the density at the southern end
of the site has been decreas~d from 32% to 18.6%. He
requested that the Co11111iss1on take into consideration the
summary letter from Federhart and Associates, which
indicates the project will generate approximately 4,414
trips per day on the 8-acre site.
Hr. Bailey referenced SLaff's concern with regard to
traffic generation, and their feeling that the project 1s
high intensity commercial. He indicated that the
applicant does not feel the project 1s a high 1ntens1ty
commercial use, and concluded by requesting approval of
the project and Commission action at this meeting.
The Commission recognized Hr . Kenneth Lounsbery, Attorney
representing the applicant. Hr . Lounsbery introduced Hr .
Jim Federhart of Federhart and Associates, and indicated
he would address trip generation of the entire project,
and Condition 20 of Resolution No . 1933.
The Commission recognized Hr. Jim Federhsrt, of Federhart
and Associates, 5252 Balboa, San Diego. Hr. Federhart
addressed Condition 20, and expressed his opinion that
same is unreasonable. He indicated that there 1s no
problem at the present time, and to widen Elm Avenue as
proposed is somewhat expensive, only to attain a four foot
ieland in the center.
Hr. Federhart continued to suggest that th~ Commission
coneider requiring the developer to bond for the median,
in lieu of requiring the median as a condition of the
eubdivieion. He added that the City could call for the
median to be installed in the existing right-of-way,
however, the applicant does not feel the project will
generate enough traffic to ever cause a problem.
Hr. Federhart responded to Co-ission questions regarding
average daily trip• of bank• and other commercial usea;
and width• of curb to curb cross-sections.
The co-i11ion recognized Hr. Kenneth Lounsbery, Attorney
repreeenting the applicant. Hr. Lounsbery referenced the
additional condition prepared by the City Attorney, and
requeeted clarification of •-e.
Daniel Hentechke, the A11iatant City Attorney explained
that the condition attempt• to tie the Spec1f1c Plan 1n
with the General Plan combination zone, and indicates the
u••• peraitted by the Specific Plan are more restrictive
than thoee allowed by the zone.
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Coanieeioner Frieatedt concurred that the condition could
be more ■imply defined. The co-iaaion concurred.
In reapon1e to Go-i1aion query regarding where the
condition 1hould be included, Hr. Rent1chke indicated that
it should be included with the section titled "Permitted
Ueea" on page 2, and the first sentence should be replaced
with the following:
''Thie Specific Plan deterainea land use for the
1ite and serve, to implement the combination
General Plan de1ignation of "0" and "RM" and the
zoning claeeification of "R-P". The permitted
uses and developaent standard, 1pecific by this
plan are more re1trictive than the R-P Zone;
therefore, the provi1ione of this plan shall take
precedence over the provisions of the underlying
zone. The provi1iona of the R-P Zone shall apply
to 1ubjecta not addreeaed 1n thie plan."
Since no one else wiehed to ,peak on the matter, Chairman
Farrow clo1ed the public hearing at 7:43 P.M.
co-iaaioner Rombotia referenced the applicant'• exhibit•
with regar~ to intersection compari•on1 throughout the
City, and inquired how Staff juetified asking for an 88
foot 1treet when the General Plan i1 specific on the 84
foot 1treet for the second arterial.
Richard Allen indicated that secondary arterials do not
have a median •• a s tandard, and they do not have
intersection &pacing• cloeer than 600 feet. Re further
indicated that there were different projects approved at
different times.
co-i1aioner Marcu• indicated she lietened to the tape•
from the hearing on Elm Properties held on March 24, 1982,
from which she wae ab1ent .
eo-i••ion discu1eion related to juetifying con1i1tency
between thi1 project and other project• within the City
with regard t o 1treet and median i1land widthe.
Coaainior,er L''leureux reierenced Re1olution No. 1933,
Condition 14, and indicated the reference 1hould be to
paae 3 rather than pqe 4.
co-i11ioner L'HeureUJI referenced the Sheffler project,
and inquired why Staff felt it wa• appropriate on that
project to require the lot1 to have ero~1on control
landecapi na, wherein thi1 ca1e it ie not requir~d.
Charle• Cri-re1ponded that Staff felt thi• wa, a good
idea.
Kr, Cri-continued to reepond to co-ieeion que1tione
re1ardin1 clarification of Condition 23, the completion of
ace••• to Hoep Way, and diecueeion reflected••-·
Aleo di1cu11ed were the Mdian1 on Alga Road, and Pa1eo
Del Norte which 1ervicee the Pea Soup Ander1en project.
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In response to Coanisaion query with regard to the
widening of Elm Avenue being included in the five year
CIP, Charles Grinn explained that there is a circulation
study currently being done for the City which 1a
considering the possibility of upgrading Elm Avenue east
of El Camino Real from a secondary arterial to a major
arterial; however, the matter has not been before the
Co-ission or the City Council .
The Conniss1on adopted the following Resolution,
reco11111ending approval of ZC-240:
RESOLUTION NO. 1932, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A
ZONE CHANGE FROM R-1-10,000 TO RESIDENTIAL
PROFESSIONAL (R-P) ON PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON
TIIE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EL CAMINO REAL AND ELM
AVENUE. APPLICANT: ELM PROPERTIES
Commissioner Friestedt indicated that although he was not
present at the meeting of March 24, 1982, he reviewed the
staff report, minutes and various handoutJ provided by
the applicant, and feela he could vote on the issue.
The Co11111iss1on adopted the following Resolution,
reco11111ending approval of SP-182; subject to the following
modifications:
Condition 4 -be changed to two (2) years from the
date of project approval.
Condition 14 -Page correction from page 4 to~
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Condition 20 -Amend to indicate that the developP~
shall bond for raiaed wedian on Elm Avenue,
extending from El Camino Real to 20 feet beyond the
easterly end of his property. T~at the bond shall
be conditioned on the City being able to require
that the median be inatalled at any particular time.
And that the section requiring additional widening
of Elm Avenue be eliminated from the condition.
Additional Conditions -to include that the Specific
Plan, page 2, be amended to include the language
provided by the City Attorney ; and addition of a
condition on erosion control.
RESOLUTION NO. 1933, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF
SPECIFIC PLAN SP-182 FOR A 7-ACRE OFFICE AREA
GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EL
CAMINO REAL AND ELM AVENUE. APPLICANT: ELM
PROPERTIES.
ITEM OUT OP ORDER
3. ZCA-132, CITY OF CARLSBAD PD ORDINANCE -An
-ndaent to the Zoning Ordinance cr eating the
Planned Development Ordinance.
The co-iaaion concurred th•t the matter be continued to
the next meeting to allow for a full CoD11is ,1on, and the
coapletion of the Design Guidelines Manual.
Chairaan Farrow opened the public hearing at 8 :10 P.H.,
an extended the invitation to speak.
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The Commission recognized Hr. Jim Goff, representing the
Daon Corporation. Hr. Goff addressed the continuance, and
indicated that the members of the Committee would prefer
the matter not be continued. He added; however, that they
unde~stand the circumstances, and recommended that the
item be set for a time specific at the next meeting, so
that the project can go forth to the City Council.
Since no one else wished to speak on the matter, Chairman
Farrow continued the public hearing.
The Conmission continued the matter to the meeting of
April 28, 1982.
CHAIRMAN FARROW LEFT AT 8:13 P.H., and turned the chair
over to Vice-Cha1nnan Schlehuber.
2. SNC-18, CITY OF CARLSBAD -Street name change from
Palmer Way to Faraday Avenue generally located
north of Palomar Airport Road and east of El Camino
Real.
With the aid of transparencies showing the location of the
property and the various alternatives, Michael Howes gave
a staff report on the matter. He indicated that Staff 1s
reconmend1ng Option No. 1, changing Palmer Way to Faraday
Avenue, to eliminate the existing conflict with the least
amount of resulting confusion.
Vice-Chairman Schlehuber opened the public hearing at
8:17 P.H., and extended the inv1tat1on to speak. Since
no one wished to speak on the matter, the public hearing
was closed.
Cnlllllias1on discussion related to the Staff reco11111ended
op~ions, and the desire to honor Hr. Ralph Palmer.
The Commission approved Option No. 3, changing Faraday
Avenue to Palmer Avenue, and Palmar Court to Corte Quinta
Har.
NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. V-3351 CARLSBAD FINANCIAL CENTER -Request for a
variance of the Zoning Ordinance to reduce the
standard l~t width dimension for tvo 7500 square
foot lot• fro■ 60' to 58.5' on property located on
the north aide of Oak Avenue between Highland Drive
and Pio Pico Drive.
With the aid of a transparency shoving the location of
the subject property, Michael Hovea gave the staff
report, essentially a• contained in the written report.
Vice-Chair■an Schlehuber opened the public hearing Jt
8:23 P.H., and exten~ed the invitation to speak. Since
no one viehed to speak on the ■atter, the public hearing
va1 clo1ed .
Co•i1eionar I, 'He ureux indicated he would abstain on the
it•••• Mr. John McCoy 1a hia client.
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'nle Comiaaion adopted the following Resolution,
approving V-335, based on the findings contained in the
staff report:
RESOLUTION NO. 1936, APPROVING A VARIANCE TO REDUCE
'mE LOT WID'm OF TWO 7500 SQUARE FOOT LOTS FROM 60'
TO 58. 5' ON PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH
SIDE OF OAK AVENUE BETWEEN HIGHLAND DRIVE AND PIO
PICO DRIVE. APPLICANT: CARLSBAD FINANCIAL CENTER
5. CUP-214, BURNETTE -Request for approval of a
conditional uae permit to allow the on-premise sale
of alcoholic beverages on the northwest corner of
Grand Avenue and Washington Street in the C-2 Zone.
Bill Hofman gave the staff report, with the aid of a
transparency shoving the location of the project and
proposed parking.
Harty Orenyak, Director of Building and Housing, responded
to Commission queetions regarding provisions for parking.
Vice-Chairman Schlehuber opened the public hearing at
8:28 P.H., and extended the invitation to speak.
The Commission recognized Hr. Ralph Burnette Jr., 3315
McKinley, Carlsbad, the applicant. Hr. Burnette
addressed the elevations of the front of the building,
and indicated that he ia working with the Redevelopment
Advisory Committee on eame.
Hr. Burnette continued to reference Condition 3 of the
Resolution, and suggested that same should be revised to
read, "Thia conditional use permit is granted to Ralph
Burnette and Ralph Burnette Jr., "
The Commission recognized Hr. Harty Orenyak, representing
the Redevelopment Advisory Committe~. Hr. Orenyak
addreeaed the upgrading of the existing portion of the
building. He indicated that the cardroom will be
removed to accomodate additional parking.
Mr. Orenyak continued that from a Building and Fire
Department etandpoint, the existing building ie leas than
adequate. He indicated that the project will alleviate
the problem• to the rear of the building, which are due to
the absence of adequate parking, aa there ia no access
for trash removal.
In response to Commieeion query, Hr. Orenyak indicated
that the cocktail lounge and cardroom uses will terminate
•• a re1ult of the project, and suggested that the CUP be
conditioned to reflect eame.
Discu11ion reflected the elevations, and Staff eugge,:~d
that Exhibit "C" be deleted.
Vice-Cbairaan Schlehuber indicated that a letter ha• been
received from Hre. Christensen, and requested same be
entered into the record.
since no one else wished to speak on the matter, Vice-
Chairaan Schlehuber clo1ed the public hearing at 8 :33
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Mr. Hagaman responded to Co1111111ss1on questions regarding
tenninat1on of the existing use upon approval of the
project.
In response to query by the City Attorney, Hr. Burnette
Jr. indicated that they do not object to a condition
requiring tennination of the use at the other location.
The Co1111111ss1on adopted the following Resolution; with a
mod1fcat1on to Condition 1, that the elevations be worked
out with the Redevelopment Agency, and the deletion of
Exhibit "C"; the addition of a condition relating to
the tenninat1on of the other usee prior to the CUP going
into effect; and modification of Condition 3 to include
Ralph Burnette Jr.:
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RESOLUTION NO. 1939, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO ALLOW THE ON-PREMISE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES AT 390 GRAND AVENUE ON THE NORTHWEST
CORNER OF GRAND AVENUE AND WASHINGTON STREET.
APPLICANT: BURNETTE
SNC-201 DAVIDSON COMPANY -Street name change from
Alfil Way to Corte de la V1eta.
With the aid of a transparency showing the location of the
property, Bill Hoflnan gave a staff report on the matter.
He indicated that the staff report 1nd1cates a
recommendation of denial; however, since the r eport was
written, the owners provided additional juetifi cation for
the name change. The owners believe the name "Alfd"
sounds too much llke "Awfu l ," and fee l such a name would
be detrimental to any marketing programs for developments
on the street .
Hr. Hofman concluded that Staff b~l1eves the concern has
aome validity, and indicated that since the request meets
the City Council policy regarding street name changes,
Staff 1s now reco111111ending approval of the request .
Vice-Chainun Schlehuber opened the public hearing at
8 :37 P.H., and extended the 1nv1tat1on to speak. Since
no one viahed to apeak on the matter, the public hearing
va1 cloeed.
The co-ieeion directed Staff to prepare a resolution of
approval for a Street Name Change (SNC-20) from Alfil Way
to Corte de la Vieta.
Ducu11ion Item
7. Report on Median I■land■.
David Bradatreet, Director of Parke and Recreation, gave
a brief introduction on the matter, and addreeaed
eiti-ted coat ■ for the ataff reco111111ended alternativea.
With the aid of wall exh1b1t1 outl1n1ng propoaed med1•n
ialand de1ian• and land■cape concept■, Bob W1lk1naon, Park
Planner, continued the 1taff report, explaining the three
etaff reco-ended alternative,. He al10 1howed a al1de
preaentation on different type1 of median• in other
citiea.
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Co-i11ion diecueeion reflected safety factora regarding
the rai1ed medians, eethetic requirements, and concerns of
-intenance coats for the planting areas.
In response to Co111nisaion query regarding maintenanc~ and
e1thetic1, Mr. Bradstreet indicated that Staff had
received input from Council with regard to esthetics of
the median,, to make Carlsbad a quality City and break up
the monotony of such materials aa bomanite with the use of
partially landscaped medians. He added that Bob Wilkinson
baa proposed a atreetacape scheme of drought tolerant
plant materials that require minimum maintenance.
Vice-C~airman Schlehuber expressed his opinion that
bomanite is a more practical material for the raised
medians, due to budget restraint& and maintenance costs,
and indicated that it is also an attractive solution.
Conniasioner Rombotie suggested that a combination of
alternatives "A" and "C" would be a good compromise.
Aleo diecuaeed was the incremental compounding of
development coats, which are passed onto the homebuyer.
Mr . Bob Ladwig, representing Rick Engineering, addressed
the Connieaion. Mr. Ladwig addressed accident rates of
streets with and without raised medians. He indicated
that medians are too Pxpenaive, and su~gested that the
City consider going to painted medians, and install raised
medians only where they are necessary for safety.
With the aid of a wall exhibit, Mr. Ladwig continued lo
address locations where new development is occurring, such
as along Palomar Airport Road. He added that the only
accea■ ia at controlled intersections, and stated he
cannot see the need for medians in those areas.
In conclu■ion, Hr. Ladwig requested an alternative in the
requirements to allow the City Engineer to make
reco-endatione where he feels the medians are needed, and
where they are not needed the developer should be provided
w~th an option. He added that in the areas where a median
'i1 not required, a wider setback could be required, ae
well as heavier landscaping.
co-ission diacu11ion related to flexible standacds for
rai1ed and land■caped median■ throughout the City, and Mr.
Ladwig'• 1ugge1tion for allowing the City Engineer to make
reco ... ndation1 on a project to project baeia.
Richard Allen addre11ed ■afety factors of different type•
of .. dian1, and 1ugge1ted that a thorough study be done on
the coat effectivene11 of raised median■•
Diecu11ion reflected areaa where there 1■ no development,
and it wa1 pointed out that the coat of the median■ 1a
incorporated into the public facilit1e■ fee.
following di1cussion, the Co-111ion reco-ended that
Council not blanket all 37 ■ilea a, proposed with medians
autoutically, but that it be referred to the Traffic
safety C~i11ion to e1tabli1h standard, from a ■afety
1tandpoint, and that they be looked at for coat
affectivane11. In addition, that it not be limited to one
alternative, but a co■bination that i1 eathetically
aLtractive and 1afety oriented, to include a combination
of alternative, "A" and "C", and bomanite.
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Information Item
8. Agua Hedionda LCP Processing.
The Coanisaion continued the matter to the meeting of
April 28, 1982, as the item vaa mistakenly placed on
this agenda.
9. Minor Changes to CUP-162(A).
With the aid of a transparency shoving the location of
the property, Michael Howes gave a brief staff report on
the matter, and indicated same v1s informational and
requires no action.
Resolutions for Adoption
10. Resolutions No. 1916 and 1917 -Sheffler.
The Coanisaion adopted the following Resolution:
RESOLUTION NO. 1916, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A
ZONE CHANGE FROM R-A-10,000 TO RD-M, RESIDENTIAL
DENSITY MULTIPLE, ON 4.15 ACRES OF PROPERTY
GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF EL
CAMINO REAL AND CHESTNUT AVENUE. APPLICANT :
SHEFFLER.
The Coanission adopted the following Resolution, with the
addition of a condition t~ provide for a temporary fire
turn around at the end of Street "C":
RESOLUTION NO. 1917, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A
TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP TO CREATE 50 SINGLE
FAMILY LOTS AND l CONDOMINIUM LOT AND A CONDOMINIUM
PERMIT FOR 33 UNITS ON PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED
ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF EL CAMINO REAL AND
CHESTNUT AVENUE. APPLICANT: SHEFFLER
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the Regular Meeting, held March 24, 1982, were
approved aa corrected; Page 5, to include reference to
a letter received from Hr. John Landry.
CITY ATTORNEY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Pre-Rearing Contact
Dan Rentachke, A11i1tant City Attorney, gave a brief
preaentation on pre-bearing contacts.
ADJOURNMENT
By proper motion the meeting vaa adjourned at 9:53 P.H .
Reapectfully Submitted~.,, <:: c. ::.....7;::.:.~,
rlabad Planning~~1~~ion
Ann R, Alle-n, Minute• Clerk
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